Colorado's New Speed Camera System Makes Waze Nearly Useless (motor1.com) 199
Colorado is rolling out an average-speed camera system that tracks vehicles across multiple points instead of catching them at a single camera, making it much harder for drivers to dodge tickets with apps like Waze and Radarbot. Motor1 reports: The state's new automated vehicle identification systems (AVIS) use several cameras to calculate your average speed between them, and if it is 10 miles per hour or more over the limit, you get a ticket. No longer will you be able to slow down as you approach a camera and speed back up after passing it, not that you should be speeding on public roads in the first place.
Colorado began deploying this new camera system after legislators changed the law in 2023, allowing AVIS for law enforcement use. The systems, installed on various roads and highways throughout the state, first began issuing warnings, but police began issuing tickets late last year.
The most recent section of road to fall under surveillance is a stretch of I-25 north of Denver, which brought the state's growing panopticon to our attention. It began issuing tickets on April 2. The Colorado Department of Transportation installed the cameras along a construction zone. The fine is $75 and zero points for exceeding the speed limit, and the police issue it to the vehicle's owner, regardless of who is driving.
Colorado began deploying this new camera system after legislators changed the law in 2023, allowing AVIS for law enforcement use. The systems, installed on various roads and highways throughout the state, first began issuing warnings, but police began issuing tickets late last year.
The most recent section of road to fall under surveillance is a stretch of I-25 north of Denver, which brought the state's growing panopticon to our attention. It began issuing tickets on April 2. The Colorado Department of Transportation installed the cameras along a construction zone. The fine is $75 and zero points for exceeding the speed limit, and the police issue it to the vehicle's owner, regardless of who is driving.
UK has them, Waze still useful (Score:5, Informative)
We've had averaging speed cameras in the UK for many years (e.g. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org]. Many stretches of road with permanent cameras and often seen on major roadworks (e.g. sections of motorway being worked on for months).
Waze maps them as averaging sections with specific camera sites, so it's still useful.
Re: UK has them, Waze still useful (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:UK has them, Waze still useful (Score:5, Interesting)
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And even after all these years there are still plenty of idiots who don't understand what the word "average" means. I always see them slowing down for a camera then speeding right back up again afterwards. How do people this dumb get a license?
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What Waze does is warn drivers ahead of a speed camera, so that the driver may slow down. If there are a bunch of them, Waze will point that out as well. As well as hidden traffic cops, traffic lights, slowdowns ahead and so on
Given all that, I doubt that Waze will be rendered useless by such adjustments in speed tracking
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Not only Waze is useful to the driver, it is now part of law enforcement. People using Waze in these "average speed" areas are not avoiding the law, they are actually doing exactly what the law wants them to do: pay attention to their speed, and comply with the limit.
Re: UK has them, Waze still useful (Score:2)
In any case, I am of the impression Waze's purpose is to plot the minimal-time route between two points across a network. Speeding or not, it still helps to avoid congested or stalled traffic.
Just follow the rules and "the powers that be" will stop making more rules.
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Months? They have been converting some motorway here for *years*. I think we are about 4 years in now, I lost track. It's taken so long that they started out making it a "smart motorway", realized that those things are deathtraps, and now I'm not sure what it's going to end up as.
We have had average speed cameras in kilometre after kilometre of 50 MPH stretches for many years too. Some of them seem to have been forgotten about because there hasn't been any work or cones there for years, and most people spee
...not that you should be speeding on public roads (Score:2, Insightful)
"...not that you should be speeding on public roads in the first place."
Why is that? Speeding is defined relative to an arbitrary value, if the state doesn't want speeding it should set those values properly. Speed limits are set to ensure speeding, not to improve public safety.
Re:...not that you should be speeding on public ro (Score:5, Informative)
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30km/h implies urban/residential areas, not wide open highways.
But you can't implement average-speed based on an urban/residential area where there are lots of possible paths, you can only implement it on straight line highways with very few exits.
I think much more safety would be to enforce traffic laws much more strictly around kids/schools and the like.
Re: ...not that you should be speeding on public r (Score:2)
Speeding is defined relative to an arbitrary value
It's more like the 85th percentile of observed traffic, and other factors are considered. Maybe it's different in some small towns, but not anywhere getting a fancy average speed monitoring system. Haven't you driven over those rubber hose sensor things laid across the road before, that's how they do the traffic study AFAIK.
https://www.ite.org/technical-... [ite.org]
Re: ...not that you should be speeding on public (Score:2)
It would be kind of interesting if these machines fined based on outliers from the norm rather than specific values.
Re:...not that you should be speeding on public ro (Score:4, Insightful)
Speeding is defined relative to an arbitrary value
Nope. There is nothing arbitrary about the value chosen. Because you don't understand the background trade-offs, or how the limits are set related to road safety, both in pre-engineered systems which define speed limits based on types of roads, and that weird system that the USA did employ for a while where the limit is set based on a percentile of the average road speed doesn't make it arbitrary.
And why have a limit in the first place? Well even when you set it based on crowd sourcing the average acceptable speed (bad way to do it since there's ample literature showing people overestimate their capabilities), you still have enhanced safety by reducing speed variance - i.e. getting the people going above average speed to stick to a limit.
Claiming that speed limits do not improve public safety is just stupid. Not ignorant, just stupid. You don't even need to research this to conceptually understand why your statement is wrong.
Re:...not that you should be speeding on public ro (Score:4, Insightful)
Keeping people alive is a direct revenue stream.
A very late implementation (Score:5, Informative)
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Same in Belgium, they're all over the place.
And Waze supports them just fine, it warns you when you're approaching one, entering one and leaving one. So you can set your cruise control to make sure you don't get a ticket...
Paradise! (Score:4, Insightful)
calculate your average speed between them, and if it is 10 miles per hour or more over the limit, you get a ticket.
Seems reasonable. In Australia you get a ticket for a momentary 2mph over. And the fine can be over us$200, depending on state. It is higher in the states with the most financial problems.
Maybe stick to the speed limit? (Score:4, Insightful)
There is a reason for that limit. And it is not to inconvenience you.
Re:Maybe stick to the speed limit? (Score:5, Insightful)
Right, because our laws are created by an all-knowing and benevolent government that only has our best interests at heart.
The fact that they're charging the vehicle owner, not the driver, should make it clear that this is an illicit cash grab.
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Be interesting to challenge this as the owner, and require photo evidence of who the driver is at one location where the car was detected otl.
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Related: Florida red light camera law is unconstitutional because tickets go to car owner and not driver.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?... [youtube.com]
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LOL it's a solved problem.
You just need to declare who you let drive your car if it wasn't you.
You're assuming that your car is treated the way you treat it.
When I was in high school, I had a beat up ol' pickup truck and I left it unlocked with the keys in the ignition all the time. All of my friends and neighbors knew that. I was always quick to let people borrow it. Eventually, some kind of myth developed around it, and it became the neighborhood's truck instead of being mine. People just used it whenever they wanted. Which was cool to me because I was young and dumb and communism still intrig
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Speed limits are not laws. They are localized risk-management instances (with a legal basis, because people are dumb and cannot take advice).
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Speed limits are laws. When you break them you pay a fine or go to jail.
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Not murdering people isn't a law either. It's a general characteristic of a social species (with a legal basis, because people are dumb and cannot take advice).
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They do this because the fines are civil penalties, not criminal as if a cop gave you a ticket.
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There is a reason for that limit.
Yes, lets talk about that reason. A reasonable approach to setting speed limits would be engineering - what would it take to for a modern car to stop in set distance modified to account for bad weather. As tire technology, automotive safety systems, etc. are implemented you would think that speed limits would be constantly increasing. The reverse is true - with some notable exceptions of highway speeds in some states - speed limits keep getting decreased. Why?
My answer to that is that speed limits have not
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You are deranged. Speed limits are placed when there are non-obvious risks to driving faster.
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While it is true that most speed limits are placed due to risk, that is not always true.
There are places in the US and other countries where speed tickets are used to raise money from out of towners. They do things like down shift the speed by 10 mph for a 1 mile stretch and then station a cop near there. The cops know the local cars and if they do happen to break the law they get warnings.
In addition, often speed limits are set differently for wealthy parts of town vs the poor parts of town - to give ou
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Are the humans driving the car getting better reaction times? No? Then stop this silliness.
Re:Maybe stick to the speed limit? (Score:5, Insightful)
A few years back where I lived they installed speed cameras. Municipality contracted speed camera installation to private firm, which calibrated them to ridiculous speed limit +2. Then the municipality started lowering speed limits. According to official statistics, by the end of the program about 40% of population got a speeding ticket in a given year. This resulted in political pressure to shut the program down. Thing is, before, during, and after there was no measurable effect on accidents. It didnâ(TM)t even work as a safety measure.
The purpose of the speed cameras was always revenue generation - it was never about safety.
The city hired someone to install cameras and give the city money. Over time the city wanted more money, so they kept changing speed limits. If they wanted to prevent speeding, the city would have increased interdiction, rather than installing a passive revenue-generating camera system.
Why would anyone think getting a bill in the mail two weeks after you went speeding down a neighborhood street would increase safety?
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"Why would anyone think getting a bill in the mail two weeks after you went speeding down a neighborhood street would increase safety?"
When your license gets suspended because you couldn't afford to pay the bill then maybe you'll have a second, follow up thought.
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Driver response time doesn't increase at all. The rest of stopping distance is determined by physics and doesn't increase much, at least not in good conditions where any old tire and any sufficiently strong brake is going to perform about the same. It CAN decrease a lot in bad conditions, whcih is also where most of the technology is useful, but most speed limits are set for good conditions with a law that says you should decrease your speed appropriately. Driving around at the speed that's reasonable for t
Re:Maybe stick to the speed limit? (Score:4, Insightful)
That is complete nonsense. Please provide evidence for your insane claim.
Re:Maybe stick to the speed limit? (Score:4, Insightful)
You can tell this person is still a teenager that thinks he has outsmarted the world.
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Oh, yeah, a teenager would totally know what the 85th percentile rule is or anything about how traffic actually works. /s
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You re not a teen. You are a killer. You just have not run into a situation where you will manifest that yet because you got lucky.
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You assume that because I disagree with how speed limits are currently implemented and that I would prefer a system of no signage with higher penalties for "accidents" as well as a higher barrier of entry to obtain a driver's license that I also must be an unsafe driver just driving however I want everywhere? Because that would make you both stupid and wrong. I am perfectly capable of following current traffic laws and speed limits while knowing they're complete bullshit and overall a terrible system to mai
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If someone happens not to have this privilege, then how would they go about traveling to or from work at night or on Sundays, when all the bus drivers are at home with their families? (Source: Citilink in Fort Wayne, Indiana, USA [fwcitilink.com])
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Get a better schedule. Get a job that can be walked/biked to or can be done from home. Call an Uber/Lyft/taxi/etc. Plenty of options.
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What about them?
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oh, sorry.. I guess you do know the methodology for how they are set. It doesn't matter that much if most drivers ignore the signs, because like you said, the signs are based on the behavior of most drivers. The signs are telling you what most drivers think is a safe speed, right?
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It doesn't matter that much if most drivers ignore the signs, because like you said, the signs are based on the behavior of most drivers. The signs are telling you what most drivers think is a safe speed, right?
Until they don't. Because it wasn't universally adopted and is getting further away from being so. There is no real standardization.
Re: Maybe stick to the speed limit? (Score:2)
Next, most drivers tend to ignore signs and pick a speed based on their vehicle capabilities, road design, weather, and traffic conditions.
Dude the 85th percentile is literally a measure of what 85% of people drive when no signs are posted, based on their vehicles capabilities, road design, weather, and road conditions.
What are you arguing for, 90, 95%, the maximum, no limit? It's unreasonable to have no posted speeds, because half of you assholes just want to drive faster than the person in front of you and will unnecessarily accelerate to pass all the damned time on any twisty hilly road possible. Jesus Christ, you're not getting there any s
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Dude the 85th percentile is literally a measure of what 85% of people drive when no signs are posted, based on their vehicles capabilities, road design, weather, and road conditions.
This assumes that this is the standard - which it is not and is becoming even less so as places are switching away. Also it literally cannot account for road conditions or weather as that changes everyday. A normally posted speed limit of 45mph is no longer appropriate during inclement weather.
What are you arguing for, 90, 95%, the maximum, no limit?
Standardization that requires no signage. No suddenly dropping a speed limit by 10mph for 1000ft and then back up for no fucking reason. A higher barrier of entry to get a driver's license to begin with - it's too easy to obtain and keep. Most people are taught just enough to "follow" most traffic laws well enough to pass their initial driver's test, but not actually taught how to drive "correctly" while following those laws. I don't agree with our current system of speed limits, how they're displayed, and how they're enforced, but that doesn't mean I think everyone should just be driving however, whenever. There is a correct, efficient way of driving and it's not something that is taught as part of getting a license. The type of driver you described is exactly the type that would never even get a license to begin with in my system.
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Damnit. Fucked up the format.
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Repeating this dumb statement is dumb.
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Most speed limits are arbitrarily set and have no legitimate reason other than to generate revenue from speeding tickets.
While I won't argue with speed limits often being arbitrary, the problem of fines (and civil forfeitures) being used to generate revenue is largely an American one. In most places fine revenue either goes to the central government's general fund or is ring-fenced for specific uses that are not the under the control of the people enforcing the laws. In the USA most states let the police agency that levies a fine or civil forfeiture keep some or all of the money. This leads directly to abuse. Enforcement is a
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The article is about a state in the USA so my statement was also limited to the USA, though that is my fault for not clarifying.
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just because you don't know how they are set doesn't mean its arbitrary.
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Most speed limits are arbitrarily set and have no legitimate reason other than to generate revenue from speeding tickets.
Most speed limits are in residential areas, as most road miles are in residential areas - those speed limits are not set to generate speeding ticket revenue, or do you really think it would be safe to drive, say, 40-45 MPH down a neighborhood street?
At 3 A.M.? Probably. At 3 P.M.? Unlikely.
Most of what makes neighborhood streets dangerous is pedestrians. After dark, this concern goes way down. At some point, it becomes effectively zero, and the only thing increasing the risk is the number of driveway entrances, and in particular, blind driveway entrances.
School zones are another place where the speed limit is set for safety, not revenue generation - it has to do with reaction times, stopping distance, etc.
And, of course, the presence of small children who behave erratically. In general, you should drive those speeds whenever you see evidence that small children are playing or are likely to be play
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Most speed limits are in residential areas, as most road miles are in residential areas - those speed limits are not set to generate speeding ticket revenue, or do you really think it would be safe to drive, say, 40-45 MPH down a neighborhood street?
Depends on the type of road. Not all residential roads are quiet, low-traffic, neighborhood roads.
School zones are another place where the speed limit is set for safety, not revenue generation - it has to do with reaction times, stopping distance, etc.
That is what they claim. But I've seen plenty of places keep their school zones active even when there is no school in session (i.e. a holiday or other break from school) and people get ticketed for it - which has nothing to do with safety. I've also seen school zones that straight up don't make sense because no pedestrians even come close to that road or cross it - which has nothing to do with safety. So while
huh (Score:2)
Call me ignorant, but I thought the point of Waze was to find shortcuts. Now this makes Waze useless?
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Was it Wayze that got into trouble when it had an option to avoid driving thru high-crime areas? The provider was called racist, and community leaders insisted they remove the option, so that unsuspecting victims, I mean potential customers could drive by businesses in high-crime neighborhoods...
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Waze has always been useless. It has never provided "better directions" but it will sen you on a wild goose chase down a one way road to make a left across 4 lanes of traffic to save you 30 seconds.
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Apparently Waze exists for the sole purpose of avoiding speed traps.
I never knew that... guess I've been using it wrong all these years. I use it to minimize the time I spend on my daily commute.
How interesting (Score:5, Insightful)
What an interesting way to roll out a dragnet surveillance network.
The mass Pike tried this, (Score:2)
When they went from tickets with only the exit ID on them, to tickets that were time and date stamped. Somebody at the turnpike authority decided it would be a good idea to figure out the time between getting the ticket and paying, and considering at a speed violation if the time was too short. That idea did not last long.
Speed enforcement (Score:3, Interesting)
There are roughly three ways to enforce speed limits:
1) Police officer in plain sight detects speeding, stops the driver, issues summons.
2) Police officer hides, catches unsuspecting driver speeding, stops driver, issues summons.
3) Camera/radar hidden along the street, it logs the vehicle speeding, issues a summons several days later.
Arguably, #1 & 2 have the effect of causing people to obey the speed limit, by stopping the driver they (likely) influence behavior, at least in the immediate aftermath of a traffic stop. #3 is purely about money - they have no interest in modifying driver behavior, they simply want to collect a fine. A speed camera in school zone does not make it safer for children, it doesn't stop the driver going 40 MPH in a 25 MPH school zone, it just sends them a bill.
Re:Speed enforcement (Score:5, Interesting)
This is the very best approach. It's got the perfect tension leading to the greatest safety.
When you're expecting such an ambush (getting caught a few times will teach you to do that), and you're really paying attention and playing "spot the ambush" then they won't catch you. But because you're being so damned focused and alert, you're also a safer driver.
OTOH if they nail you, that means you weren't paying attention. So you weren't merely speeding; you really literally were speeding unsafely, and the ticket is the proof. (If you were so safe, then how come you didn't see the guy with the radar gun in time?)
Every. Single. Time. I got ticketed, my mind was wandering and not fully focused on the road. I wasn't looking for a speed trap, so I didn't see it in time. Busted. And those times I was looking? I didn't fall for it. I slowed down and avoided a ticket.
The ideal system (in terms of safety) happens to also be downright sporting! The ol' classic speed trap was almost .. a game?
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They take your license away if you get multiple speeding in school zone tickets.
I'm pretty sure even a moron will figure out how to stop speeding when that happens.
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Perhaps, but camera systems without the officer don't actually issue "tickets" that carry points. They issue "citations" that show up nowhere if paid.
Who's driving? (Score:3)
Last time I checked, my vehicle is not a legal entity that can be cited for infractions. Whatever person is sitting behind the wheel of that vehicle is not known by a camera. I can't believe these things haven't been totally obliterated in court. In my state, the tickets you get from these things are actually from 3rd parties contractors who run them, and try to sound very official, but they are not actual summons through a court.
Re:Who's driving? (Score:4, Funny)
Just start bleating about being "sovereign" while you're at it LOL
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Correct. They are a civil fine. Not paying would simply send you to collections. In PA people weren’t paying toll fees and weren’t paying the collection agency either. I think they finally tried to pass something that would suspend your license as if that would stop the serial cheater from driving.
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This is an actual thing and there's a case in Florida that can change everything in the future. A judge threw out every automated ticket from a county because ticketing the registered owner is akin to claiming they're guilty without due process. It should not be the owners burden to prove innocence, instead the government needs to prove the registered owner is guilty. Plenty of people allow others to drive their vehicles, for instance if you have other family members that live in your household, or you loan
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Actually they take pictures that include the driver's face. Just recently read about someone being impressed by the high quality of the images. They sent copies with the citation. The question of the identity of the driver seems like a minor one at that point. They would only need to confirm that the face matches a known face. If you tried to claim you had loaned the car to someone else, then it becomes even easier, just proving the photographed face does not match the claimed face. But it reverts to the ge
didn't they have this on tollways in oh years ago? (Score:2)
As I recall, Ohio toll highways did this years ago; if your time stamp at the booth was less than a certain number of minutes since the previous, you got a ticket for speeding.
Infallible, and took away the point really.
Sure, I guess you could speed and then pull over waiting before you cross the next gate but... Why bother?
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That was a rumor in a lot of places. I tested it last year and averaged like 86 on a 70 toll road. They don’t care.
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That's because people willing to pay to take a toll road to save speed can always avoid said toll road if they actually have to follow the speed limit on it. That eliminates the revenue the toll road gets, costing them money.
Florida had this situation with a new toll road that runs parallel to the highway around Orlando. Cops were running speed traps there. They were quickly banned because they noted it was killing the number of people taking the road, costing them far more in revenue.
That's not what Waze is for (Score:2)
Waze is a navigation app. Making speeding harder doesn't affect its utility for that.
When my family went to Costa Rica in 2024, Waze had much better road information than Google Maps.
I had an uncle I never met because he was kiled by a speeder. I've never been sympathetic to people who want to get away with driving fast.
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"When my family went to Costa Rica in 2024, Waze had much better road information than Google Maps."
Waze literally gets the road information from Google Maps.
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I have no idea why it was better then, but It was.
Let’s be honest (Score:2)
Yay Calculus (Score:2)
"Just because my average speed was 85mph doesn't mean I wasn't going less than that the whole way."
The Mean Value Theorem is coming to a prosecution slide deck near you.
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Your average speed was 40 in a 40 zone. That never happens because of the traffic lights. No soup for you.
Rocky mountain fine! (Score:2)
New plea (Score:2)
The new plea: "I got there quicker not by speeding, but I went through a wormhole on Elm Rd."
Seems Fair (Score:2)
I've never heard of Waze or any other system designed to defeat camera systems. And it's been my habit, for most of my life now, to push that "10 MPH over the limit" line. But this seems fair, now that I'm older and more moderate in my driving habits. Still, I have to wonder if all the tricks I used Back In The Day with my motorcycles (pigdog Norton 750 Atlas, and then my beloved BMW R75-5) to defeat radar (careful use of lanes, using other vehicles to block my much smaller radar signature would still wo
School Zones (Score:2)
Australia has them, Waze still useful (Score:2)
Unconstitutional (Score:2)
Not going to complain (Score:3, Interesting)
I don't see many CO residents here, so I'll chime in.
Across the front range, average speeds in the fast lane on I-25, I-70, Highway 6 and highway 36 have been creeping up, and now run 15-20 mph over the speed limit. At 20 over, you'll get people tailgating you to get over, and even going 85 in a 65 mph zone, it's not uncommon to have someone blow by you like you are standing still. It would be nice to go 7-8 mph over the limit and still blend into traffic.
I'm all for more speed enforcement in this part of the world.
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"... this CO scheme wouldn't be legal here in CA..."
It would not be legal in Texas either, but legal is what a judge says it is. Judges aren't there to find you not guilty.
Earlier in my life I had a friend whose father was a prosecutor. He claimed his father had never lost a case and couldn't understand criticism how that result was not something to brag about. Turns out his father was a personal friend of the judge that tried his cases and served as a temporary judge in that same court when the judge wa
Re:Laws are weird (Score:4, Insightful)
The "good guys" aren't going to get speeding tickets in the mail.
Re: Laws are weird (Score:3)
Speed limits are set to ensure a ready supply of people to fine. The more effective and automatic enforcement is, the larger a problem there is going to be with the public.
Wait, there's abuse, like waiting at the bottom of a steep hill with a speed reduction. Automating the abuse, to wash hands, like red light cameras printing money for every slightly rolling right turn on red. An officer might be too embarrassed to do in person. Then there's average speed over some distance, and that's ... what?
Unless that's straight up hidden from the public I'm not seeing how it's possibly abusive. And speed limits aren't always abused anyway, come on.
Shitty speed limits are usually shit f
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The more effective and automatic enforcement is, the larger a problem there is going to be with the public.
I'm not sure why the public should have a problem paying a completely optional donation to the government. I mean they literally have signs on the side of the highway telling you what to do if you don't want to pay.
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Telling yourself something is a dumpster fire does not make it so.
Re: States are weird. (Score:2)
It's almost our entire western coast and the single largest economy in the U.S.
Wherever you're from, they're not sending their best, huh.
Re: States are weird. (Score:3)
"Nobody goes there, the line is too long"
Classic
LAWYERS (Score:2)
It's always really about the ability to fight back. Poor lives do not matter. Often these are brown people but we also have a demographic of "white trash" who are too busy trying to punch down on brown people so they don't feel they hit rock bottom themselves. Along with red-necks who are falling down economically and feel their privilege slipping away. (plus all groups have tiny insecure men factions who are toxic. Penis enlargement and legal prostitution would solve so many deep problems... but crash th
SPEED CAMERAS ARE ILLEGAL (Score:2)
A good fight would end them.
1) Confronted by your accuser? it's a robot. my state ended cameras decades ago on such a lawsuit. also no context to any of it and lack of evidence of context. Rich can at least get themselves free from punishment...
2) The owner can't be held liable for use of their property. This isn't a child given a gun... but good way to involve the NRA; easier argument which could be applied to gun owners.
3) Subsequent punishments based upon your car's violations is certainly not going to h
Eventually when money gets tight (Score:2)
America is a borderline lawless country where might makes right and money is all that matters. We are one bad election away from just straight
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Yes. I agree the nation is collapsing and it will happen and the turning point will be 2025 in the history books; couldn't be more clear unless an armed insurrection that was successful - probable had the election functioned... but societal collapse leads to dysfunction. Rome took 300 years to fall; people debate over when-- because it's death by 1000 cuts. Same here but 2025 is more stand out than other events; Nixon was huge but subtle and nobody could reasonably project beyond it; Reagan on the other han
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You don't seem to understand the fundamental agreement you enter when you register your car with the state.
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Any law can be done. The courts can undo it; if willing, and it can take a long time for justice and public pressure to play out. Such as the Dread Scott decision. Change in judges, maybe politicians, and maybe a violent revolution (or suppressing one in that case.)
You can't just sign or click away your rights but we do all the time; a big lawsuit and sometimes a few laws-- like CA for example has laws that prevent you from giving up rights. Such as the employment non-compete rights you can't sign away in C
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Yeah commit a felony defacing of public property to avoid a misdemeanor traffic ticket. Brilliant!
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I'm here for your "proving wormholes exist" presentation of evidence :D