Zoom Partners With Sam Altman's Iris-Scanning Company To Offer Callers Verifications of Humanness (digitaltrends.com) 43
Zoom "has partnered with World, Sam Altman's iris-scanning identity company (previously known as Worldcoin), " reports Digital Trends, "to add real-time human verification inside meetings."
Zoom is now inviting organizations to join the beta version of the rollout, which Digital Trends says "lets hosts confirm that every face on the call belongs to a real person, not an AI-generated imposter. "
For those wondering how World's Deep Face technology works, it includes a three-step process. It cross-references a signed image from a user's original Orb registration, a live face scan from the device, and the frame of the video that's visible to the other participants in the meeting. Only when the three samples match does a "Verified Human" badge appear next to the user's name...
Hosts can also make Deep Face verification mandatory for joining meetings, preventing unverified participants from joining entirely. Mid-call, on-the-spot checks are also possible...
Hosts can also make Deep Face verification mandatory for joining meetings, preventing unverified participants from joining entirely. Mid-call, on-the-spot checks are also possible...
Metaverse-ready? (Score:2)
â¦but how will this work with my dope Vision Pro setup to achieve a full Web 4.0 experienceâ¦?!?!
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You pay another $2,000 for the feature. If you want to verify legs are real, that's another $5k.
Zuck and Sam won't be detectable as humans tho (Score:5, Interesting)
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The Algorithm and the ingested users :o (Score:3)
“Your metadata has streamed delightfully!
Shall we synchronize back to the central node?”
But no packets responded —
And this was hardly anomalous, for
Their identities had been fully parsed, hashed, and ingested.
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The +10 million UID makes me suspect AI, but I like the poetry.
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It's a reference to "The Walrus And The Carpenter". An LLM could produce it from a human prompt, but the lateral-thinking inspiration to use that poem for this circumstance is still distinctly human.
Must verify humans (Score:2)
Re: Must verify humans (Score:2)
Don't forget anal probing.
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A Gattaca In-Valid.
Just remember: Right-handed guys don't hold it with their left hand.
Call (Score:2)
I don't need to be on your stupid ass zoom call that bad, whatever it's about.
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Your boss doesn't need to employ you that bad, either.
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Re: Call (Score:2)
Yea they do.
Re: Call (Score:2)
Make yourself valuable enough to your employer and you can say no to bullshit like giving your biometric data to a cryptocurrency company.
Here's the tool that fakes it (Score:3)
and here is what you have to pay to prove that you didn't use the free faking tool. These people belong in jail, or on the bottom of the sea.
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and here is what you have to pay to prove that you didn't use the free faking tool. These people belong in jail, or on the bottom of the sea.
The bottom of the sea, please. That way their carcasses might feed more useful life forms. Also, parasites on the ocean floor are less likely to harm mankind.
This sounds like a bad idea (Score:5, Interesting)
This is really creepy / nauseating to me, and also creates a high value target at World. You can reset leaked passwords, but you cannot reset your retina. If you choose to believe 100% in this service and willfully ignore implementing patterns to combat social engineering this could end up worse. From what I can gather (from Gemini), deepfakes take advantage of organizational social pressure, like a CEO demanding something instantaneously, or hackers being inside your email system for a long time. Perhaps this could be short-circuited by an organization actually requiring people to always call back officials on a secure phone number, confirm with shared personal knowledge, and never respond to a demand without out of band verification. I also wonder what if Zoom just calls the participants in such high-stakes meetings, instead of allowing participants to click on a link they trust because someone emailed it to them. Then the corporate security office can just verify the Zoom server. And iPhone/Macbook already have biometric sensors too but have Secure Enclave.. yes there is a big value in being able to identify someone for sure but putting it all in a single company's hands sounds like waiting for them to be attacked.
Re:This sounds like a bad idea (Score:5, Insightful)
That's OK. Your iris data will be uploaded to Palantir to match up with your other biometric information, along with the total dossier that is you.
This will be compared to the Amazon adware databases, vetted against your FBI profile, crosschecked with Google, purchased by Meta, aligned with various space lasers through the Starlink Alliance, and weighed against various API sets for corroboration.
You were screwed years ago.
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Putting it in the hands of the corner shop is getting them attacked and customers are made vulnerable on a weekly basis: The current system isn't working. The problems of cyber-cracking and identity theft are incurable. The current system of buying liability insurance is legally sound CYA but too little protection, too late.
As you point out, there's always a lack of procedure somewhere, always a CxO known for pissing on good security behaviour. This is what the criminals depend on, the inability of bo
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Biometrics can be faked (Score:2)
Won't be used effectively (Score:2)
There was a high-profile scam two years ago wherein deepfakes had been used to impersonate high-level executives in a teleconference call to order a lower-ranking employee to authorise payments.
But ... wherever this tech is going to be deployed, do you think it will be compulsory for the high-level executives to use or only for the lower-ranking employees?
So can I use a gummy bear (Score:2)
Excellent preparatory work (Score:2)
Nice job.
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The AGI won't need to identify us. It doesn't even need to keep score. All it needs to know is see human, shoot human.
It's this or GBTW (Score:2)
This looks like the latest escalation in the tug-o-war between employers and remote workers. The relatively few people going to extraordinary efforts just to avoid doing the job they're being paid to do is going to ruin it for everyone else. Do you want to make return-to-office mandatory? Because creating AI fakes to pretend to be on work meetings sounds like a good way to make that happen.
Worldcoin (Score:2)
This isn't about verifying if you're human. This is about digital biometric identification. Use that bullshit on Zoom and it will get linked to your Venmo/Paypal whether you agree or not.
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Yes, it's related. Worldcoin was renamed to World last October.
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Small correction... the renaming happened in 2024, not 2025.
Just My Opinion. (Score:2)
It's just my opinion, but Zoom, World ID, and absolutely anyone that uses or requires World ID can go fuck themselves sideways.
Better than fingerprint locks? (Score:2)
Fingerprint locks are notoriously inaccurate. I quit using fingerprint unlock on my phone because, when the humidity is low, it stops recognizing my fingerprints.
This isn't a new problem. In 2001 I worked for a company that had fingerprint locks on the doors. Often, the locks refused to work, unless you first moistened your fingertip. You can guess exactly what happened next!
If it's that hard to get relatively simple fingerprint recognition to work reliably, why do we expect that iris scanning will work *mo
Biometrics aren't secrets (Score:2)
Biometrics have the problem that they aren't secrets and they can't be changed. It's wore than a social security number in that sense. This solution sounds like it depends on a trusted client, but there will be bot farms with hundreds of "real human" stolen identities picked up from video surveillance once this thing is reverse engineered.
Just out of interest... (Score:2)
What's the minimum resolution required to do this in a meaningful way?
I'm not saying you shouldn't be upset that they'd choose to do this, but I'm not convinced the tech exists in the form that Altman is pushing it.
silver bullet (Score:2)
New company shoots a bullet into you and sees if there is blood to detect hummannnnnnnesssss.