Jeff Bezos' AI Startup Aims To Build an 'Artificial General Engineer' (theverge.com) 67
Jeff Bezos says his new AI startup, Prometheus, is working toward an "artificial general engineer" capable of helping design complex physical products such as robots, drugs, manufacturing systems, and rocket engines. The Verge reports: The NYT first reported on Prometheus last November, but now Bezos is sharing more information about the startup after a $12 billion funding round, putting the company at a $41 billion valuation. Bezos serves as co-CEO of Prometheus alongside Vik Bajaj, who co-founded Alphabet's health-focused research group, Verily. The startup currently has around 150 employees.
The tools Prometheus intends to build could help develop physical products across several industries, including robotics, drug design, and manufacturing, the NYT reports. "Blue Origin is a perfect example of a company that could benefit from the tools that Prometheus is building," Bezos tells the NYT. "Any company that is building sophisticated devices -- like rocket engines -- would benefit greatly from this kind of technology."
The tools Prometheus intends to build could help develop physical products across several industries, including robotics, drug design, and manufacturing, the NYT reports. "Blue Origin is a perfect example of a company that could benefit from the tools that Prometheus is building," Bezos tells the NYT. "Any company that is building sophisticated devices -- like rocket engines -- would benefit greatly from this kind of technology."
He should fix his old-space rocket company first (Score:2, Funny)
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AI generates a LOT of words that need to be read.. (Score:2)
Otherwise, are you willing to spend billions on projects where you don't know what was actually done?
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The lone wolf consultant probably won't be able to afford the service. Without it taking care of the gating items which require buy in from all stakeholders in a large corporation, it will output a sub-optimal design. The communication overhead to achieve buy-in and resolving problems with overcoming problems tool vendor software, and debugging, is what takes up most of an engineer's time today in a large company. AI which attacks this communication burden along with handling the boring and repetitive aspe
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Bezos tells the NYT. "Any company that is building sophisticated devices -- like rocket engines -- would benefit greatly from this kind of technology."
This yet-uncreated-technology has perfectly understood capabilities, and will benefit you greatly.
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I do wish there were enough people left around here who understood why this was funny.
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But no Blackjack, it's mathematically solved.
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Of course it is, it says so in the brochure.
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If only AI could exaggerate like you do.
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Otherwise, are you willing to spend billions on projects where you don't know what was actually done?
Funny you should mention that [yahoo.com].
Re:AI generates a LOT of words that need to be rea (Score:5, Funny)
I can't imagine a group of managers reading through 3000 pages of AI output every day..
Any PHB worth their hair points knows the 'right' thing to do in that scenario is to pack all that output deep into the ChatGPT bong bowl and hit Enter, sparking the Flame of Delusion..
..which of course makes the executives cheer..
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Otherwise, the executives will have to admit they are wrong, which is career suicide. If you admit you were wrong, another executive can use that admission to backstab you.
When "another" executive turns out to be AI, and all the meatsack execs turn on themselves?
The fucking popcorn, will be pay-per-kernel.
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I can't imagine a group of managers reading through 3000 pages of AI output every day,
I dunno, it could be kind of funny watching them trying to get a machine to make sense of reality.
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There's an AI that will help with that reading, and yes, people will be willing to spend billions when it is not their billions. Plus, other billionaires are telling them what AI will "actually do", even though they are lying.
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The current AIs can do more than just processing words, because the text generator is used as an interface to other software- and ai modules. E.g.
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The AI companies have hired physics and electronics experts in the meantime. They must have created modules for electronics and physics processing.
It makes no sense to use an LLM for that, I am sure the AIs have specialized neural networks for these tasks.
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Re: AI generates a LOT of words that need to be re (Score:2)
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AI follows instructions. You can
a) Ask it to be brief.
b) Let it babble (this can help it to work better as it doesn't have parallel "thoughts" but can only think by generating text) and ask it for a summary afterward
Can you answer any question briefly? (Score:2)
Parent should have been the FP and I'm glad to see it spanned about half the discussion. But I'm just judging by the scrollbar. Mostly I only check the longer discussions on Slashdot for Funny these days. Saves vast amounts of time while producing the same amounts of disappointment.
However on the verbosity topic, I actually ran the obvious test past a number of genAIs. "Can you answer any question as briefly as possible?" Rather to my surprise, about half of them managed to answer "Yes" and then shut up.
But
And who will be the accountability sink (Score:4, Interesting)
when the bridge or building collapses, or many die due to a flaw in a drug developed by these AGE's?
I bet it won't be anyone in this new startup due to the corporate veil.
Re: And who will be the accountability sink (Score:2)
The company will be, not an individual
Re:And who will be the accountability sink (Score:4, Insightful)
Company builds "AI" (it isn't AI but let's pretend) that can "read" images. Company goes to sell this to a hospital CEO. They say it will do the work that radiologists would do, and it only costs (X) tokens per scan. Imagine the savings! Hospital asks about liability, and here's the kicker: The AI company says just have one of the remaining human doctors the hospital has on-site to review the scan.
Now skipping the part where it says it can do the work, it's dumping liability on the human who now not only has to review their own work but also the AI. The AI doesn't have to be perfect... the human has to be perfect. In a logical world the CEO would tell the company to go sell their hokum elsewhere until they're willing to put their own reputation AND finances on the line to stand behind their work. However if the average CEO can sign a contract to pay the company 15% less than a human overall, then add that 15% to the bottom line, they'll get a bonus, so you'd best get to work doc.
When the mistake happens, you'll get sued... instead of the "AI" system and it just sucks to be you person who went to school to become an actual SME. We've already seen them blame software devs/engineers when AI writes crappy code that causes problems. You think they aren't going to dump other bad crap on humans when the tool breaks?
Lathe of Heaven. (Score:1)
Based on AI flaws so far... (Score:3)
You'll end up with the worst employee you've ever had. A narcissist who sounds completely compelling but is completely wrong, or just wrong enough that it sounds right, but the load calculation is off by a small factor, no one else catches it and the bridge fails under a certain condition, someone dies.
There's no intelligence when it's just mindlessly trying to slot the right word in the next position. I realize specialized AIs are starting to have some particular skills, but it still seems so untrustworthy that you still need intensive design reviews by senior engineers, assuming the AI engineer is an idiot and needs double checking at every turn.
Re:Based on AI flaws so far... (Score:4, Informative)
The deadly part, isn't when well-trained intelligent humans can call AI on it's bullshit.
The deadly part, is when all those humans die off and get replaced with the drug-addled screen addicted generation that doesn't even care to anymore.
When apathy dies, humanity dies.
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sounds completely compelling
That's not how engineers use AI agents any more. We don't just look at what it says — we have it prove that it's doing the right thing. We just look at the proof, so we don't have to look at all the details, nor blindly believe what they AI says. We also have adversarial reviews, which are typically more thorough (but less experience-based) than human reviews.
Drug discovery part is BS (Score:5, Informative)
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But Jeff Bezos doesn't care about figuring it out, he only cares about owning a replacement for you. Once you are gone, there is no one that can expose that he didn't figure it out.
Funding Round? (Score:2, Offtopic)
Why does he need to do that? Just in the other thread I've been sternly assured these single men *must* have their hundreds of billions of dollars so they can fund these new ventures, otherwise how on Earth would they do it?!?! Go out and seek other people with money to put towards it?! Well at rate we may as well be commies amirite?!
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Exactly, so why does anyone need hundreds of billions of dollars of it? Tax that shit into the ground.
1000 millionaires will make wiser investment choices than one billionaire. After all, that's a bedrock principle of capitalism, the market is wise.
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There is nothing wise about millionaires or billionaires, they are the toxic part of capitalism. Monopolizing capital destroys free markets.
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Exactly. You get rich by convincing others to spend their money.
Realms of Fantasy (Score:2)
AI hasn't replaced coders, despite it being declared so. AI has tem
Re: Realms of Fantasy (Score:2)
And once those companies who *thought* they could replace their devs with LLMs start hearing from their customers about the state of their products? Oh, boy. Not necessarily the job I'd want to do, but there'll be a lot of emergency demand. Same as when everyone sta
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one does not LLMply (Score:2)
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You're absolutely right !
I can see this. (Score:3)
Most of the proposed AI projects sound foolish to me.
But I think this could work. The trick is NOT to have gigantic expectations.
Forget about 'Design me a bridge'.
Instead think "Create a table of how much weight can a bridge Suspension bridge spanning 1 mile hold, by different construction materials."
seems dumb (Score:3)
Go for the low hanging fruit, a position that is easy to automate and consumes the largest paycheck: MBA
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"The trend is expected to continue into 2026: One in five (20%) businesses are expected to use AI to flatten their organizational structure, slashing over half of current middle management positions"
I don't think AI deserves the blame, though.
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Replacing worthless people with worthless software that boils the oceans. It's not exactly progress, more of a lateral move on the stupidity track of humanity.
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Republicans.
When the product is a hallucination ... (Score:2)
Seriously, how disconnected are these people?
Re: When the product is a hallucination ... (Score:2)
He's a billionaire, he'd have a place on Elysium [imdb.com] or The Aerium [fandom.com], if such places existed.
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More like a long-term stay in Hell, if such a place existed.
Re: When the product is a hallucination ... (Score:2)
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The problem is that anything except simplistic engineering (i.e. low "technician" level) is completely out of range of LLMs. Bit the simple stuff is already covered nicely by standard components, standard designs and things that take a lot longer to assemble than design because they are trivial.
I do not see a market for this. At all.
Compelling roadmap... (Score:2)
Let's see it get registered (Score:2)
Given how engineering is a registered profession in many places in the world, I'd like to see gain its professional accreditation.
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That's just playing games with words. In places where there are professional Engineers, you can be an engineer without accreditation, you just can't be an Engineer. The government and private organizations don't own words, they control titles.
Besides, accreditation doesn't need to be "gained" when it's an AI, just hang the label on it and threaten lawsuits for those who object. It's all about power and money. Earning it is for you, not them.
Re: Let's see it get registered (Score:2)
It's not just words, the whole point is to ensure that those that need a service have a way of knowing that the person offering it has at least been vetted somehow. Good luck getting a job without that accreditation in an industry where it exists