SpaceX Plans To Build 'Starpipe' Natural Gas Pipeline To Fuel Starship Rockets (reuters.com) 51
SpaceX plans to begin building an eight-mile natural gas pipeline called "Starpipe" next month to supply its Starbase launch site with fuel for a much higher cadence of Starship launches. The pipeline is expected to enter service in January 2027. Reuters reports: The pipeline plan, previously reported by Rio Grande Valley Business Journal, signals Musk's intent to accelerate Starship's development and lay the groundwork for a faster flight rate. The 40-story rocket is central to SpaceX's push to expand its Starlink broadband network, deploy orbital AI data center satellites, and eventually carry astronauts to the moon and Mars.
Designed to be fully reusable, Starship uses about 630,000 gallons (2.4 million liters) of liquid methane per launch, currently delivered by hundreds of tanker trucks in an hours-long process incompatible with Musk's expansion plans. Starship has completed 12 test launches since 2023, but Musk aims to ramp up to dozens, hundreds and eventually thousands of launches a year.
Though it is unusual for a space company to build its own natural gas pipeline for launchpad fuel, Starpipe might only be an initial step in a longer-term plan for SpaceX, which has spent years exploring its own drilling operations near Starbase and throughout Texas, according to a Reuters review of Cameron County land records. SpaceX President Gwynne Shotwell told CNBC on June 12, when the company went public, that the company planned to build pipelines and process its own propellant, and was looking into drilling its own natural gas.
Designed to be fully reusable, Starship uses about 630,000 gallons (2.4 million liters) of liquid methane per launch, currently delivered by hundreds of tanker trucks in an hours-long process incompatible with Musk's expansion plans. Starship has completed 12 test launches since 2023, but Musk aims to ramp up to dozens, hundreds and eventually thousands of launches a year.
Though it is unusual for a space company to build its own natural gas pipeline for launchpad fuel, Starpipe might only be an initial step in a longer-term plan for SpaceX, which has spent years exploring its own drilling operations near Starbase and throughout Texas, according to a Reuters review of Cameron County land records. SpaceX President Gwynne Shotwell told CNBC on June 12, when the company went public, that the company planned to build pipelines and process its own propellant, and was looking into drilling its own natural gas.
Starpipe (Score:2)
lol
(That's literally what I did)
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Apparently, "Gigapipe" was already taken.
And this is old news. https://x.com/SERobinsonJr/sta... [x.com]
On May 20th, the Port of Brownsville Navigation District Board of Commissioners unanimously approved authority to negotiate an easement and right-of-way for a SpaceX planned 16-inch natural gas pipeline from the Port of Brownsville to Starbase.
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Re: Whelp (Score:2)
That's gonna be so badass next year!
Re: Whelp (Score:2)
The man knows how to get things done.
There's something off about cheering on another man laying a little pipe. Like we're patting a special kid on the back. We knew you could do it Elon Shortpipe, keep it hanging!
Using one of his other companies? (Score:2)
He could get his Boring Company [wikipedia.org] to lay the pipeline. I understand they are a very successful company when it comes to things like this.
8 miles? (Score:2)
Should be doable for somebody targeting Mars.
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Re:8 miles? (Score:4, Informative)
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Because non-destructive testing works sooo much better. Stockton Rush would be so proud that somebody finally agrees with him!
Re: 8 miles? (Score:2)
Because non-destructive testing works sooo much better.
For things people will live in or on or around, yes, yes it is.
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So it's your argument that the pipes, seals, and other materials used to build all of this are best left with unknown tolerances and unknown failure modes, because they've never gone through destructive testing.
I see you're another graduate from the Stockton Rush school of engineering.
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I'm pretty sure there's "purposefully" destructive testing, and then there's "whoops it just exploded when we didn't mean for it to explode, but hey we'll just act like it's no big deal and pretend that failing the primary mission was the mission all along!!"
For example: when Falcon Heavy was purposefully detonated to make sure the range safety abort actually worked, while also testing to make sure the payload abort separation rocket and parachutes work properly. There's no other way to really test those t
Re: 8 miles? (Score:2)
There are a few things at play here:
- There isn't one single system or subsystem that's being tested on each starship flight, there are dozens. What you're seeing is the broader objective of mission control, which is after liftoff.
- All flights so far have included new components that have never been tested and never been proven to work. In some cases, the concept itself hasn't been proven. You may recall a while back when a falcon rocket exploded on the launch pad. That itself was the first use of an unpro
Someday we'll all have natural gas pipelines. (Score:5, Funny)
This is amazing. Hopefully by breaking new ground like this, Musk will be able to bring natural gas to the masses. Can you imagine if they could just build natural-gas pipelines on demand, pretty much wherever you wanted to? This kind of cutting-edge development will truly open new vistas of human endeavor.
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"where natural gas isn't plumbed directly to their homes"
that's Woke Gas, not Elon-approved Freedom Gas extracted directly from the bowels of the Great State of Texgas
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That would include most of New England.
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I think rsilvergun could do that long before Elon could. He alone produces 30% of North America's natural gas, the problem is he vents it directly into the atmosphere.
The jokes write themselves (Score:2)
Re: They sure do. (Score:2)
when you're still the only one playing the game at his level.
God bless you comrade for signing up to colonize Mars, the Earth is better for people like you. Would you like any help packing?
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A 16" Pipleline, 8 miles? (Score:2)
Meh. We've got those criss-crossing my neighborhood.
A 16" LNG pipeline? Now that's interesting.
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A 16" LNG pipeline? Now that's interesting.
The plan is for this pipeline to carry natural gas to be liquified on site: Reuters [reuters.com]: "SpaceX wants to build a liquefaction facility at Starbase to process the piped-in natural gas into liquid methane."
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Building infrastructure for productive activity? (Score:4, Insightful)
No no no. You need six years of environmental impact statements (per foot if pipeline) while tanker trucks keep driving the stuff on local roadways. Think of the children!
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Remains to be seen [x.com]: "On May 20th, the Port of Brownsville Navigation District Board of Commissioners unanimously approved authority to negotiate an easement and right-of-way for a SpaceX planned 16-inch natural gas pipeline ... This does not grant final construction approval; additional engineering, environmental, and regulatory steps remain pending."
SpaceX hasn't yet even acquired the land to start construction [the-independent.com]: "Starpipe would begin on an 83-acre (34-hectare) piece of land at the Port of Brownsville tha
Re: Building infrastructure for productive activit (Score:2)
You joke, we still can't cut down an oak tree without preapproval and paying for each inch of girth. Don't mess with Texas doesn't mean shit anywhere you like in Texas, you have to bribe some guys up top first.
And yet . . . (Score:4, Informative)
He can't use electricity to power his datacenter in Tennessee, instead runing unpermitted gas turbines [theguardian.com] 24/7 simply because it's next to poor people [politico.com].
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When Musk proposed the data center he said the turbines would be temporary. Over a year later and all he's done is add more turbines while not making a single attempt to get a permit. He does this because the surrounding community is mostly poor black people who already have a high incidence of asthma and other health issues.
So no, the articles are not incorrect. He's running unpermitted gas tubines.
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And it is appallingly racist of you to assume that the demographics of the surrounding community drove decision making. An industrial site went into an industrial park, big f-ing deal.
"peak satellite"? (Score:2)
At what point will we run out of space to put all those satellites, particularly into stationary earth orbit? And who manages traffic congestion? Next, let's worry about what happens if one satellite has a catastrophic accident (or is knocked out by an ASAT), and all-of-a-sudden, that orbit starts loading up with junk?
Enquiring minds want to know! (Particularly so I can short SpaceX stock...)
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At what point will we run out of space to put all those satellites
Do the math! The Earth is ~12,800 km in diameter, so a LEO shell from 350-450 km up is about 13,300 km in diameter and about 100 km thick. That gives a volume of about 56 billion km^2. If we give every satellite 100 km^3, that means we're limited to about 56 million satellites.
particularly into stationary earth orbit?
Oh, you want geostationary orbit? That's way, way, way bigger (though possibly subject to Kessler syndrome, unlike LEO).
And who manages traffic congestion?
Basically every space agency does this.
Next, let's worry about what happens if one satellite has a catastrophic accident (or is knocked out by an ASAT), and all-of-a-sudden, that orbit starts loading up with junk?
This is a potential concern for high orbits, not so much for where most
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That gives a volume of about 56 billion km^2
That should have been km^3, obviously.
It's my giga terra star pipe (Score:2)
Why should a mere eight-mile gas pipeline be news? (Score:4)
It's the most efficient, safest way to move fuel without burdening rail and road nets with LNG tankers which are large mobile fire and explosion hazards.
That's why there are well over two million miles of natgas pipeline in the US so far. Eight miles should impress no one. Andrew Carnegie drilled natgas wells and built a twenty mile pipeline to Pittsburgh steel plants in the 1880s.
Re: Why should a mere eight-mile gas pipeline be n (Score:2)
Private use (Score:2)
So that pipeline passing through your property, or public land, will be solely for a private business and its profits vs any utility or public consumer consumption.
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Upper atmosphere (Score:2)
Meanwhile is anyone wondering what all of these launches might be doing to the upper atmosphere?