US Food and Drug Administration Rejects Petition To Set PFAS Limits In Food (theguardian.com) 127
An anonymous reader quotes a report from The Guardian: The US Food and Drug Administration has rejected a legal petition demanding it set limits on toxic Pfas "forever chemicals" in food, marking another setback for public health advocates' push to limit exposures to the dangerous compounds. The agency is refusing to set limits despite a growing body of science and the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) finding food is the biggest source of Pfas exposure. Testing has found the levels of Pfas in single servings of some contaminated foods to be equivalent to drinking many glasses of contaminated water.
While regulators have focused on reining in Pfas in water, the chemicals are widely used throughout the food system, and there was hope that the agency under Robert F Kennedy Jr would take the threat more seriously. Kennedy leads the "make America healthy again" (Maha) movement, of which eliminating toxic chemicals from food is a cornerstone. [...] The November 2023 petition called on the FDA to check for up to 30 Pfas compounds in a range of produce, fish, eggs, milk and bread. The agency did not respond within the six-month timeframe required by law, but TEJTF scaled back its petition in 2025 to ask the agency to set advisory thresholds for PFOA and Pfos, two of the most common and dangerous Pfas compounds, in seafood and milk.
Recent FDA testing found 70% of seafood samples contain the chemicals, while independent milk testing found it in 12% of 50 samples, including extremely high levels in Whole Foods and Kirkland Signature brands. The FDA rejected the revised petition, stating it plans to take action on setting standards for Pfas, and there is "insufficient evidence to support [TEJTF's] request." The agency said it plans to set less non-binding "action levels" that do not require contaminated food to be removed from shelves. "Tolerance levels," or limits, make it illegal to sell food contaminated beyond a set threshold.
While regulators have focused on reining in Pfas in water, the chemicals are widely used throughout the food system, and there was hope that the agency under Robert F Kennedy Jr would take the threat more seriously. Kennedy leads the "make America healthy again" (Maha) movement, of which eliminating toxic chemicals from food is a cornerstone. [...] The November 2023 petition called on the FDA to check for up to 30 Pfas compounds in a range of produce, fish, eggs, milk and bread. The agency did not respond within the six-month timeframe required by law, but TEJTF scaled back its petition in 2025 to ask the agency to set advisory thresholds for PFOA and Pfos, two of the most common and dangerous Pfas compounds, in seafood and milk.
Recent FDA testing found 70% of seafood samples contain the chemicals, while independent milk testing found it in 12% of 50 samples, including extremely high levels in Whole Foods and Kirkland Signature brands. The FDA rejected the revised petition, stating it plans to take action on setting standards for Pfas, and there is "insufficient evidence to support [TEJTF's] request." The agency said it plans to set less non-binding "action levels" that do not require contaminated food to be removed from shelves. "Tolerance levels," or limits, make it illegal to sell food contaminated beyond a set threshold.
Justified true hope (Score:5, Funny)
here was hope that the agency under Robert F Kennedy Jr would take the threat more seriously.
There is only one hope that is ever truly justified in Robert F Kennedy, and that is he will do something unexpected at a cocain/heroin party.
With a bit of PCP he's the perfect match for the Trump administration.
Re:Justified true hope (Score:4, Funny)
here was hope that the agency under Robert F Kennedy Jr would take the threat more seriously.
There is only one hope that is ever truly justified in Robert F Kennedy, and that is he will do something unexpected at a cocain/heroin party. With a bit of PCP he's the perfect match for the Trump administration.
Weird that you were modded as troll. What you wrote was not only funny, but likely true. I always thought his presence was to make the rest of this administration look normal.
Re: Justified true hope (Score:2, Troll)
It would be weird on a site without so many reich wing maggot cucks.
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It would be weird on a site without so many reich wing maggot cucks.
How do you know he enjoys watching his wife have sex with other men? Or is that just projection?
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How do you know he enjoys watching his wife have sex with other men?
They actually just enjoy watching the country they claim to love get fucked.
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How do you know he enjoys watching his wife have sex with other men?
They actually just enjoy watching the country they claim to love get fucked.
Even in the darkest of times, humans can find humor no matter the source. You ave evolved into permanent desperate ennui. How's that workin' out for ya?
Land of the free ... (Score:5, Informative)
... free to poison people for profit, that is. Entirely what I expected in this question.
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In other news, Trump is wondering why the EU doesn't import safe and amazing, some say its the best, I don't say that, but it sounds good, grown man saying that can you imagine, American food. Clearly we need to slap tarifs on them for taking advantage of America.
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True. Except for some wines, peanuts and almonds, I cannot think of a single US food product I could easily get here.
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True. Except for some wines, peanuts and almonds, I cannot think of a single US food product I could easily get here.
How do you survive without Doritos, Pringles, and Twinkies?
Re:Land of the free ... (Score:4, Informative)
True. Except for some wines, peanuts and almonds, I cannot think of a single US food product I could easily get here.
How do you survive without Doritos, Pringles, and Twinkies?
Serious response to a jokey question: they don't. You can buy Doritos and Pringles in pretty much any European country. They're manufactured locally with recipes tweaked to meet EU requirements and local palates. I've had both the American and the European version of both and couldn't tell the difference (though I'll admit that I'm not a snack food connoisseur).
Twinkies are trickier. I believe the only places they're commonly available are the UK and Ireland.
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I have never seen Doritos here. Pringles, yes, but the ones here are not US made, I believe. (Do not have one handy to check...) There are several local brands with similar but better products though. The only reason I know what a Twinkie is was watching Wall-E.
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I have never seen Doritos here.
Where is "here"? I've seen Doritos on the store shelves of local supermarkets in basically every country in Europe. And if you're going to say the UK, well the UK has it's own Doritos factory.
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How do you survive without Doritos, Pringles, and Twinkies?
We don't need to. They aren't imported into Europe. Doritos are made in Belgium. Pringles in Belgium and Poland. And we have plenty of Twinks running around the street in Amsterdam dressed in little tiny short shorts.
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And we have plenty of Twinks running around the street in Amsterdam dressed in little tiny short shorts.
I always thought it was kind of ironic that a twink with a fondness for twinkies would soon cease to be a twink.
As for the snack cakes themselves, I'd actually never gotten around to trying them until after they were discontinued and then brought back sometime in mid 2013. They were completely unremarkable and tasted just like every other crappy snack cake. To anyone who hasn't tried these sort of American "delicacies", they're shelf-stable plastic-wrapped miniature cakes which all to varying degrees mana
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Hahhaah that part was facetious. Twinkies are the one thing I've not commonly seen in Europe. We can get them though at expat import stores. Along with Hershie bars and a reminder that even American chocolate tastes like crap. (Sidenote: Not everything American tastes crap, Europe has a lot to learn about BBQing, though you can keep your mac and cheese side dish, no idea why anyone thought that's a good side for a steak. Definitely making pulled pork burgers Louisiana style this weekend though).
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How many Starbucks and McDonalds have you gone past today?
Literally none of Starbucks or McDonalds is American food. The former sources its products food from Latin America (even in the USA), and the latter infamously uses local products to produce locally adjusted food menu. How many McDonalds around you serve a Tikki burger, or a Maharaj burger like in India? Do you fries come with tomato sauce or Friet sauce like in the Netherlands to go with your McKroket, or a Big Rösti in Germany?
You know what they call a Quarter pounder in Amsterdam? - This isn't real
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To be clear it all tastes like the same rubbish, so you probably didn't miss anything. But McDonalds in Italy does serve things like cheese nuggets with Asiago Fresco cheese, and burgers with radishes and Asiago. Actually just looking it up it seems that's their big "localisation", that one Italian cheese.
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Zero. If I wen to the city center, I would probably walk by more sushi-places than McDonalds (and this is a land-locked country). I think there is a McDonalds somewhere, but I am not sure where. Same for Starbucks.
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You're Swiss, right? There are about 200 McDonalds in Switzerland, and growing. A fraction of the number in France, Germany or the UK. And it's nowhere near being one of the best places we have to eat. It's the lowest common denominator of fast food.
You should just come visit the US. You'll love the food, everyone does.
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There are thousands of each strewn across Europe, earning billions feeding Europeans with American food.
You misspelled European food. There's no American ingredients and no American staff used to make any of that food. Also try and find an American McDonalds that serves a McRaclette like they do in Switzerland.
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You should just come visit the US. You'll love the food, everyone does.
I have been to the US for about 3 months total on several different visits. I got food poisoning exactly 3 times in my life, one my own kitchen mistake and two times from restaurant food in the US. And I have been to Africa with zero problems of that nature.
Hence I really hope you were being sarcastic there.
Re:Land of the free ... (Score:4, Interesting)
... free to poison people for profit, that is. Entirely what I expected in this question.
Profit is, after all, the only guiding light this society has. The poison part doesn't even register as something worth considering. Nothing else does either. Greed is God. Profit is both ethics and morality boiled down to their only essence. Anything that stands against God (Greed) or our moral framework (Profit), must be ignored. If it dares to continue to be an issue, it must be dealt with harshly.
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Indeed. I am tempted to say this is worse than Fascism, because at least fascists believe in something greater than themselves.
likely the wrong path (Score:5, Interesting)
It might be more productive to have third party labs document PFAS contamination of foods and then file a class action suit over the contamination.
Re:likely the wrong path (Score:5, Insightful)
It might be more productive to have third party labs document PFAS contamination of foods and then file a class action suit over the contamination.
Sorry. When you signed up for that discount card a few years ago, you agreed to individual binding arbitration only.
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Sorry. When you signed up for that discount card a few years ago, you agreed to individual binding arbitration only.
This always seems like a great idea for companies... until someone is motivated to organize thousands of individuals to file for arbitration. The company has to pay the arbitration fees for every single one of them. It adds up fast. A class action settlement is usually cheaper.
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They've already dealt with this. If you read the fine print on these agreements, many or most of the recent ones say that the company has the option of rolling up any "substantially similar" arbitration cases into a single mass arbitration. (Which as usual, is decided by a person whose paycheck ultimately depends on the business of that same company.)
Re:likely the wrong path (Score:5, Informative)
Would it be? How well has that worked for Monsanto victims who actually have a terminal illness? The supreme court has ruled regulations trump lawsuits in that case, and the FDA specifically saying they won't impose limits sort of falls into that category right?
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As I recall, that was more, "Science trumps the opinions of a California jury".
No you're thinking of a different case. The ruling was very clear, that pesticides are regulated by a federal administration and that in producing a product in accord with that regulation the states couldn't bring a lawsuit as they don't have standing.
The science itself is very clear, which is precisely why Monsanto changed their formula for consumers in the first place, and why Europe banned the substance in question long ago even for commercial farmers. Roundup ain't your granddaddy's roundup anymore.
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It still cost Monsanto a lot of money. Which is where this kind of thing starts off. Once enough judgments are handed down against the company, that's when regulations follow.
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It still cost Monsanto a lot of money. Which is where this kind of thing starts off. Once enough judgments are handed down against the company, that's when regulations follow.
What's the goal here? Just paying a bit of money, enacting change, or making people whole? I'd argue costing a bit of money is irrelevant compared to the last two which very objectively have not been achieved through a legal system, and *ONLY* been achieved (partially anyway) through regulation, and even then a significant amount of that came from regulation abroad.
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Paying a bit of money and then later on enacting change. This isn't the first time a company has been sued over PFAS allegedly being in their products:
https://pfaswaterexperts.org/p... [pfaswaterexperts.org]
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Like the solid evidence that talcum powder can cause health problems for people that used it on their genitals?
I've said it before (Score:1, Troll)
The only good Kennedy is a dead Kennedy.
Re: I've said it before (Score:5, Insightful)
The only good Kennedys are the Dead Kennedys.
Fixed that for you.
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Separately also true.
Macho Hamacho - the Great President (Score:5, Informative)
Jan. 20, 2025 – Withdrew the U.S. from the Paris Climate Agreement (again). Criticism: Undermines U.S. climate leadership and slows emissions reductions.
2025 – Large-scale federal workforce reductions and agency restructuring. Criticism: Reduced expertise and capacity in public health, science, and environmental enforcement.
July 2025 – Exempted more than 100 industrial facilities from certain pollution-control requirements. Criticism: Could increase exposure to carcinogens and toxic pollutants for nearby communities.
Feb. 5, 2026 – EPA enforcement against polluters fell to a record low. Criticism: Environmental groups argue it weakens accountability and encourages noncompliance.
Feb. 18, 2026 – Administration moved to revoke the legal basis for major U.S. climate regulations. Criticism: Seen as an attempt to dismantle decades of environmental protections.
March 2026 – Executive actions and policy shifts favoring continued glyphosate use and limiting some pesticide liability. Criticism: Public-health advocates argue they prioritize chemical manufacturers over health concerns.
May 19, 2026 – EPA proposed rolling back drinking-water limits for several PFAS ("forever chemicals"). Criticism: Critics say it exposes millions to higher levels of persistent toxic chemicals.
May 2026 – IRS settlement reportedly shielding many of Trump's, his family's, and affiliated businesses' pre-settlement tax returns from future audits. Criticism: Tax experts called it unprecedented and argued it creates unequal treatment under tax law. (Reuters/AP reporting.)
June 2026 – Continued approvals and support for certain PFAS-related pesticide uses. Criticism: Environmental groups argue this increases long-term contamination risks despite health concerns.
July 8, 2026 – FDA rejected a petition to set enforceable PFAS limits in food. Criticism: Public-health advocates argue the decision leaves consumers inadequately protected from "forever chemicals."
This list says plenty alone.
Of course, Trump and his people are imbeciles (Score:5, Informative)
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Hard to say. When comparing the deaths from covid in the US and Norway per capita, there are approximately 890 k extra deaths in the US [share.gemini.google]. That's obviously not all Trump, though. Norway has a much better health care system, and a much smaller percentage of idiots. And while the latter obviously caused Trump, it's not set in stone that the latter caused the increased mortality in the former by making them refuse vaccines, ignore mask mandates etc. There's more correlation than causation here.
Also, here's a rar
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Maybe. But the first company with a working vaccine against COVID said they didn't sign up with that because the paperwork would have slowed them down.
Re: Of course, Trump and his people are imbeciles (Score:4, Interesting)
It can be completely blamed on Trump and the Republicans in general. The US Strategic National Stockpile was never replenished after the H1N1 outbreak of 2009 (consistently blocked by Republicans). Trump reacted poorly and slowly to COVID, didn't follow *any* of the federally approved pandemic playbooks or response plans, and actively pushed misinformation.
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One million? Is that a hyperbole?
Yes absolutely, the GP is of course a massive Trump supporter and is making up fake numbers. The actual confirmed number according to the government itself (which was counting while Trump was in power, so these are Trump's own numbers) is 1,238,189. Damn that GP for undercounting by over 20%
Re: Of course, Trump and his people are imbeciles (Score:2)
It's healthy for Americans (Score:4, Funny)
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That must be it. Us weak-ass Europeans just cannot deal with PFAS chemicals. We also cannot manage dying earlier (https://www.worldometers.info/demographics/life-expectancy/), which creates a host of problems, same as our overpowered and far too affordable health-care systems.
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If you lived in the USA, you would WANT to die sooner. Getting older and seeing what these politicians are doing to this country makes me not want to live longer and see more deterioration.
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I can see that, yes. Quite the tragedy.
Re:It's healthy for Americans (Score:5, Informative)
They are long-lived and therefore remain in the environment for a long time and are therefore spread far, via air and water.
This makes them a global problem, including Antarctica.
import bans... (Score:2)
then those idiots will cry about the EU banning US produced shit "food"
EU (Score:1)
Re:EU (Score:4, Insightful)
MAGA logic dictates that anything not done by MAGA is automatically bad.
Re:EU (Score:4, Insightful)
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See. Leftists siding with the Islamists because Trump is against them.
A statement in reply that shows the "right" have no functioning braincells. Your leap of logic (sidenote: Is it really a leap of logic when there is literally no underlying logic to speak of) basically frames the entire debate. You didn't reply to someone's point, you made up their reply in your head to suit your narrative and then rallied against it.
At this point all you're doing is battling the voices in your own head. I wonder if Trump would have won if his base had free access to anti-psychotics.
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Your orange shitler god does not give a rat's ass about the Iranian people. You must be confused by the taste of shoe polish on your tongue.
I don't know anyone in the US who supports "the Islamists and their terrorist proxies". You must be confused by the taste of cock in your mouth.
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The Guardian could have included more of the response than just a link, but they're very bad at journalism. In that they decided to stop doing it all together and focus on political narratives instead.
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Don't try to understand why Republicans do the things they do, because the more you know, the less you want to know.
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The current shitler administration does not work for Americans. It works solely to enrich shitler. Once you understand that, everything starts to make sense.
And yet another reason why ... (Score:2)
... americans are cooked. Poison in your food is legal.
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Don't worry (Score:5, Funny)
Unpasteurized milk and skipping vaccinations will solve the problem
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Clever. Can't die from answer if you're already dead. *tappingheadthroughfully.gif*
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WTF "answer"? PFAS! God I need to go to bed. Don't slashdot drunk and tired while multitasking at work boys. Time to drive home.
Ummm (Score:5, Informative)
There is another piece of idiocy. "Make America Healthy Again? Yeah Not that health issues are an America thing, but MAHA must be returning to everyone smoking again, Drinking Radium Water along with putting it in food. Having children's feet X-ray Fluoroscoped to fit them with shoes, Mercury treatments, cocaine for kids for teething, Arsenic and lead in medicines, Lead in gasoline, tapeworms for weight control. Purposely getting Malaria to treat STD's. Arsenic in Wallpaper, Arsenic as an Insecticide, and on and on.
Sorry, but MAHA is merely insanity. If America (or the rest of the world) was somehow healthier at one time, we need to return to all those things that were provably killing us.
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100,000,00 Guinea Pigs [wikipedia.org] thus has its 1933 direction of muckraking reversed. This book was on my RN grandma's bookshelf, and I devoured it when I was young.
Yup, and they still do that crap. While food is fairly well controlled, medicine is a disaster. As people become more and more expecting miracles in a pill, we're getting some freaky side effects.
Men are regularly put on meds that kill their ability to get an erection. A friend in his mid 30's was suggested to go on Cholesterol meds. I pulled him aside.. "You just got married last year, do you and your wife enjoy intimacy?" Oh hell yeah!" The you really need to check out the side effects of what statins
Maybe dump the stuff in raw sewage? (Score:2)
If they put this stuff in raw sewage, RFK Jr. might go swimming in it and finally get something that will remove him from the world.
USA remains last in line (Score:4, Insightful)
Re: USA remains last in line (Score:2)
I think because the USA culture is pathological in generally letting people fend for themselves rather than helping them, at least at the level of government. In this case, individuals like you and me supposedly have freedom of choice against the economic far west dominated by big companies, who by the way are also allowed to "lobby" lawmakers. I think this absolutism about freedom of choice, which in practice is largely illusory, is deeply ingrained in the culture. Therefore it's ok if companies are dishon
Another Drop in the Pond (Score:2)
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Just look how many decades did it take until lead was banned in the US compared to every other country with similar economic prosperity.
Yes, lets. [wikipedia.org]
Re: Another Drop in the Pond (Score:2)
How curious. (Score:4, Interesting)
If one were looking for something remotely resembling intellectual coherence wouldn't the legality of persistent compounds that sure do seem to make endocrinologists nervous in food really get the people who are loudly concerned about biological gender or white birth rates motivated? However much you overestimate the ability of liberal propagandists surely you would take good, old-fashioned, chemical effects on the endocrine system even more seriously?
Evidence? (Score:2)
What evidence is there that all/some/any of these chemicals are "dangerous"?
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Re:Toxic? (Score:4, Informative)
Purified wastewater is very carefully monitored (some of it real-time) for a large range of things, because it has to be. It is much safer than regular drinking water.
Re:Toxic? (Score:5, Interesting)
Yeah they probably aren't bad, PFAS is only a bioaccumulating substance linked to elevated cholesterol, weakened immune response to vaccines, liver and thyroid diseases, pregnancy complications (like preeclampsia), and increased risks of kidney and testicular cancers. But you don't need your balls anyway.
But this is America, allowing shit in food that most of the rest of the west has banned is sort of par for the course right? And then Trump wonders why Europe (which has actual food regulations) doesn't import American produce.
My jurisdiction seems fine with putting treated wastewater right back into the drinking water supply. That is a bigger concern to me than Roundup, microplastics, talcum powder, Radon, second hand smoke, Freon, acid rain, or whatever the latest parts per billion threat to my health (and deep pockets to sue) is.
So to be clear waste water treatment which is a well understood process that has been scientifically proven to provide safe and clean drinking water typically far less contaminated than the streams it is returned to is a concern to you, but several things that have conclusively been proven to have a direct negative impact on your health including leading to debilitating and horrible end of life conditions such as lung cancer you're fine with?
Please consume all the PFAS you can find, it's important you get testicular cancer before you breed.
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The parts per million, accumulate in the body as "forever" chemicals and are associated with elevated risk of cancer, in your balls particularly. If that doesn't worry a man, they get passed to children through breast milk too.
There is reasonable chance, as is the case for many US institutions, that your EPA is corrupt, being paid off or threatened to play down risks. This happens when a culture celebrates greed more than the well being of its people.
We live in a soup of industrial chemicals with no real i
Re:Toxic? (Score:4, Insightful)
There is reasonable chance, as is the case for many US institutions, that your EPA is corrupt, being paid off or threatened to play down risks.
This isn't inevitable or a constant fact, this is a choice made by the voters. We all had the choice between boring public servants who are yes bureaucrats and as much as bureaucrats has become a pejorative sometimes that's what you want in a role.
Instead we get RFK Jr in HHS, we get Bhattacharya an anti-vaxxer at NIH and Makary at FDA who defends the both of them fairly shamelessly.
Is the EPA corrupt by nature or is electing someone like Lee Zeldin to direct it who then staffs the agency with industry lobbyists [newyorker.com] is maybe more the issue than some intractable "government bad" standpoint.
If we want things to improve we have to make a responsible choice sometimes and not choose our base desires to blow everything up and then throw our hands up and question why we're surrounded by ashes.
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If we want things to improve we have to make a responsible choice sometimes and not choose our base desires to blow everything up and then throw our hands up and question why we're surrounded by ashes.
We don't, though. Some of us do, but many want things to not just stay the same but go backwards, to a time when they personally were doing better... or thought they were.
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Well sure, those people are far more difficult to sway if at all but I am speaking to the "ehh, every bodies corrupt, voting doesn't matter" crowd when like, the difference in outcomes from voting has never been more apparent than the last 20 years.
"All the government is corrupt!" Ok why do you say that? "Because we've been hearing that repeated our entire lives!"
And the alternative to say, the FDA, is letting the supposedly evil corporations who corrupt the FDA to just regulate themselves with no oversight
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All the corrupt places leech money from the higher levels and spread it around.
This is the Trump admin. Sorry but those are FAX
Burn it all to the ground and start fresh.
This is the fantasy of a child.
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This is the fantasy of a child.
And a coward, to boot. Fixing things is hard, burning everything down is easy, but then comes the regret
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You tell us, "Anonymous Coward". If you were actually proud of your stupidity, you'd put your name to it. It appears that even you, in the depths of your stupidity, know that you're wrong and wouldn't want to be associated with anything as stupid as your own thoughts. You're a coward just like prez shitler and the rest of his followers.
Re: Toxic? (Score:2)
"What is the regret from ending those things?"
Even if you don't care about the tens of thousands of lives lost because of the kind of piece of shit you are, you should care about ending USAID leading to the screwworm reaching the US. And maybe you would if you weren't in Russia.
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This isn't inevitable or a constant fact, this is a choice made by the voters.
Is it a "choice"? A considerable portion of the voting population is now the generation that spent their lives huffing lead fumes, and it's beginning to show. #2020wasstolen.
Choice implies cognitive thought, I really feel a significant portion of the population have given up on any thought and vote along with what their Friends (and Fox) tells them to vote for.
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Which I take as just one more example of how The Guardian doesn't do journalism, they push political narratives.
Re: CostCo crap for a few pennies (Score:3)
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The only way it ends up in food is when you overheat your teflon pan OR you scratch it and the coating starts coming off.
How does that all square with the petitioner's finding that PFAS were found in a number of food products, including "extremely high" levels in some milk brands, which presumably weren't first scalded in a consumer's non-stick skillet?
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The cows drank water with PFAS in it.
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Right. Which makes Kisai's dismissal of the problem a waste of breath.
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Re: CostCo crap for a few pennies (Score:2)
If you think that's all PFAS is for them you don't know anything. Try Google.