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How Flock Cameras Wrongly Tracked a Journalist for Days, Then Sent Police to Arrest Him (thedrive.com) 132

Posted by EditorDavid from the wrong-arm-of-the-law dept.
"Are you armed?!" the police officer screamed. "Get out of the car!"

A writer for the car-news site The Drive describes how "a technological chain linking surveillance cameras, AI, and law enforcement... led to me and my wife being surrounded by police, hands on their guns, in a Kohl's parking lot in suburban Minnesota." After dropping off our Amazon returns, we'd just gotten back in the Range Rover and reversed maybe two feet out of the spot when four cop cars came flying out of nowhere and boxed us in... The Plymouth Police Department had been tracking me for days using Flock license plate cameras, waiting for the right moment to strike, because they thought I'd stolen the Range Rover. And the reason I was ID'd as a dangerous car thief was a simple data error made 2,000 miles away in California, creating an edge case within an edge case that Flock's AI camera network was unable to handle... "The plates on this car are stolen," Officer Ganshyn said...

This made absolutely no sense. Car companies keep meticulous track of the fleets they loan out to the media. The vehicles all have special manufacturer or dealer plates that are logged every time one enters or exits... The New Jersey plates that were allegedly stolen from the LA dealer were 34 03 DTM, not 34 10 DTM. But when the police report was created and the plate was entered into Flock's system, it was just recorded as 34 DTM. Just the five large characters, no little number in the middle...

Flock's AI tech wasn't registering that non-standard little number when it began picking up the Range Rover around town... I connected the final dot. A lot of vehicles in [Range Rover manufacturer] JLR's media fleet have a New Jersey manufacturer plate with the same alphanumeric structure — 34 ## DTM — and Officer Ganshyn observed that meant it was now a nationwide issue. Anywhere a police department has a partnership with Flock, any other JLR-owned car with the same plate structure is going to get flagged as stolen. In fact, four other 34 ## DTM cars were being tracked around Minnesota that week, according to Officer Ganshyn. I was just the first one to get nabbed.

The only way to stop it would be for the LAPD to correct their initial report and update Flock's system, which Jaguar Land Rover was now racing to make happen following the phone call. Still, he warned me to drive straight home, park the Range Rover, and leave it there. If I were to cross into the neighboring town, I'd probably get flagged again and go through this entire ordeal again with a different set of officers. His parting words were ominous: "You're lucky we're in Plymouth. If you were in Minneapolis, they definitely would've come at you with guns drawn."
Ironically, even the original license plate wasn't stolen either, the article points out. It was reported misplaced during a Los Angeles photo shoot, and "The corporation had to report the plate as lost to law enforcement," according to the police report — and even then, the plate "was reported as NJ 34DTM instead of NJ 3403DTM."

The author's conclusion? "Once these systems have you in their crosshairs, there's pretty much only one way it can go... A simple data-entry error, magnified and broadcast nationwide by a growing surveillance network operated through an opaque partnership between a private company and public agencies, led police to identify me as a car thief and set up a sting to take me down. I mean, they even had a drone flying overhead during the 'bust'...

"Thank God our kids weren't with us."

Thanks to long-time Slashdot reader sinij for sharing the article.
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  • GIGO (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Asteconn ( 2468672 ) on Saturday July 11, 2026 @10:46AM (#66232812)

    Garbage In; Garbage out.

  • I big enough lawsuit against Flock, LAPD and PPD might lead to better data checking.

    • Re:Lawyer up (Score:5, Interesting)

      by awwshit ( 6214476 ) on Saturday July 11, 2026 @11:09AM (#66232884)

      Good luck with that. Cops have Qualified Immunity for this kind of thing. Flock provided the network but did not operate it, the cops operate it. You'd be wasting your money on lawyers because it's the cops.

      This is an example of why Dragnets are illegal. A simple error, maybe even on the part of JLR that reported it, triggered a dragnet that caught at least one innocent person. There wasn't really a guilty party here at all as the item was misplaced and not stolen.

      There was a discussion the other day about someone that destroyed/disabled some Flock cameras. Someone was making a point about public records, well here is one.

      Rather than lawyer up, its time to write your City Council, write your Representatives, and fix this Flock problem. Vote them out if they don't listen. When this fails, then it is time for Civil Disobedience.

      If the cops want to track everyone all the time everywhere then they need to hire *people* to track us all. Replace all of those cameras with vehicles and people, put in the investigative effort to track us all. Let's see how much the City wants to pay for that.

      • Good luck with that. Cops have Qualified Immunity for this kind of thing.

        *This* sort of thing? The police had a conversation with a guy and let them leave on the spot. Everyone is immune from prosecution for *this* sort of thing. No one in history has ever won a lawsuit because someone had a conversation with them.

        • Reporting mistakes that end up in an unnecessary felony stop is *this* sort of thing. Even the cops on the scene noted that the same thing in a different jurisdiction would be a very different kind of event with guns drawn.

          Is this guy really lucky that he did not have guns pointed at him and was not in handcuffs? No, he is a victim of a system that only works because of a private database where no one has rights.

        • Not sure if it's an age thing or what, but you're not supposed to take it as a given that the police can set up a sting based on automated output from an unaccountable machine; even if the police themselves were perfectly professional about it.

          The issue is not whether the cops acted professionally. The issue is that, even if the surface level outcomes seem similar, there is a huge difference in your actual level of freedom in a world where a someone has to convince a judge that your behavior is suspicious v

    • I big enough lawsuit against Flock, LAPD and PPD might lead to better data checking.

      For what? The police spoke to him and left him alone. Mistakes were made and it was resolve quickly, respectfully and without issue. The only thing a good lawyer will do is tell you to go away. The only thing a bad lawyer will do is leave your wallet lighter.

      If you think there's any reason here for anyone to sue, then you probably will agree I should lawyer up and sue you for having to suffer the indignity of reading your knee-jerk post, right? I mean words are harmful according to you.

  • Cops were actually well behaved, shockingly. (Score:5, Interesting)

    by MikeDataLink ( 536925 ) on Saturday July 11, 2026 @10:51AM (#66232836) Homepage Journal

    I just watched the bodycam footage from this, and to my surprise these cops were very well behaved. They never cuffed the guy, or in any way escalated the situation. They figured out very quickly it was a mistake and let him on his way.

    This is rare in the world of today's policing. So you gotta give credit to these guys. Everyone involved kept cool heads.

    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      by ArchieBunker ( 132337 )

      Probably because he's a middle aged white guy. Swap him out for a black guy and I suspect the outcome would be a bit less cordial.

      • Probably because he's a middle aged white guy. Swap him out for a black guy and I suspect the outcome would be a bit less cordial.

        Or maybe it's because with 737000 police in the USA this is what typically happens, and all you normally hear about are the odd cases that do escalate. Not every black person gets shot by racist cops. The USA has a massive observer bias problem. To be clear there still is a racist cop problem, but the fact that you think automatically that a black guy would get shot when there's literally thousands every day which don't, is part of the problem.

        • I can assure you that most cops are criminals, that they regularly disrespect citizens who do not stroke their egos, and become dangerously unprofessional anytime they think there is an opportunity to do so. Bodycam footage is a major factor now, but one only needs to do some actual research, for example the Bricks and Minifigs / Reckless Ben case, where redacted bodycam footage normally never exposed makes clear how cops actually behave when they think they can get away with it comes to light. Cops don't

          • I can assure you that most cops are criminals

            Yeah I agree with you. You need to do actual research.

            • I have known thousands of cops including a stepmother who rose through the ranks from beat cop to chief of police, and have been at functions with hundreds of cops telling stories of all their crimes. Everything I said is based on first hand evidence except the additional video proof I pointed out. Further research into you shows that you come from a cop family and are a known bootlicker.

              • I have known thousands of cops

                On it's face this assertion alone make you absolutely delusional.

                • I said I have known / met them. I didn't say they were my friends. Have you ever heard of police associations? Have you ever been to functions that cater to the police? Have you been in and around the criminal court systems where you regularly meet cops? Do you have any relatives with decades in law enforcement? Do you have a family with strong ties to departments in hundreds of different cities and towns? Did you go to visit all these various departments and meet the officers? Were there over 200 unif

                  • Cops are like M$ Windows: the more you know about them the more you realize they should be avoided unless there is no alternative.

                    This part is definitely true. Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

                  • So you know them in the same way that you also know thousands of baseball fans because you want to a baseball game? You don't know anything about me, but you are telling me everything I need to know about you to determine you are reaching and now backpedaling after making a foolish post.

              • Oh right actually I agree with you. Given the current state of laws in the USA it's virtually impossible not to break one so really everyone is a criminal. On that basis I'm sure the police are too. You're probably a criminal right now, did you leave your bin out a bit too long?

        • Yeah. It only takes one or two murders to give police a bad name.
      • Way to race bait. The actual reason is a lost simpler and easier to believe: that's how most of the interactions go. But that's boring so you only see when things go wrong, because only radical edge cases make a splash on social media echo chambers.

    • It's rarely reported. Most cops are just human beings, same as yourself. You only hear of the ones that are assholes because that's much more rage-inducing, just how the news wants it to be.

      • Re: (Score:3)

        by flink ( 18449 )

        Are they a pariah among their peers for reporting the corrupt ones? no? Then they are part of the problem. They might be "normal people", but they are willingly perpetuating a horrible system.

      • Well it's also because while they are human beings they are given the power of the state, they can detain, they can kill, so I think it's fair we can hold them to a higher standard than we would most other people.

        You don't have a right to be a cop nor is anyone forcing you to be so if that's the path you want to walk it should come with acceptance that you abide by that higher standard.

      • That's strange. I see cops regularly harassing the homeless, young people, people of color, and anyone who doesn't fit the standard white conformist profile, but rarely see the other "regular" human beings doing so. Where do you live that all the "just human beings" are falsely arresting, fabricating charges against, and ruining the lives of people they don't like and/or that won't kiss their ass?

      • You only hear of the ones that are assholes because that's much more rage-inducing, just how the news wants it to be.

        If you've got 1 bad cop, and 9 "good" cops who are covering for him, what you've actually got there is 10 bad cops.

    • Don't give credit for failing less hard at basic competence than the average US police gang. Police officers who just blindly do what a computer tells them without checking everything properly still should not be allowed any kind of police powers.

    • Re:Cops were actually well behaved, shockingly. (Score:5, Insightful)

      by stabiesoft ( 733417 ) on Saturday July 11, 2026 @12:35PM (#66233038) Homepage
      As the summary says, "You're lucky we're in Plymouth. If you were in Minneapolis, they definitely would've come at you with guns drawn.". Imagine somewhere in Texas or Florida. They'd be dead.

      • to your point: the quoted statement was from one of the cops.

        The cops themselves believe that cops in many jurisdictions are trigger happy incompetents.

        • And we're supposed to be happy because *these* cops were merely incompetent and not also trigger happy? Progress?

      • Re: (Score:2)

        by smap77 ( 1022907 )

        I thought: Maybe the cops in those other jurisdictions would have *READ THE LICENSE PLATE* on purportedly stolen vehicle and noticed that it didn't match the stolen plate, then promptly left the scene.

    • "This is rare in the world of today's policing." BS when you look at the number of interactions police have nation wide, the # going bad are very low. The bad ones are the exception not the norm!

    • Well behaved? They attacked and falsely accused the driver of a crime he never committed. That is the opposite of "well behaved". No. No credit to the scum. The Driver Did Not Commit The Crime. As such, the cops should have NEVER accused him, stopped him, interrogated him, approached him, or an any other way darkened his day.

      No. They do NOT get credit merely for sot being AS abusive as other cops have in other cases. The ONLY acceptable situation is ZERO abuse of the innocent police... EVER.

    • I just watched the bodycam footage from this, and to my surprise these cops were very well behaved. They never cuffed the guy, or in any way escalated the situation. They figured out very quickly it was a mistake and let him on his way.

      Well, of course. It was a white couple driving an expensive car.

      But, on the other hand, they failed to check that the license plate matched the plate they were looking for. The stolen plate was reported as either "34 DTM" or "34 03 DTM" (the article isn't too clear on this point: the report to Flock was "34 DTM", but it's not clear if the original police report was for that plate or "34 03 DTM"). In any case, these plates did not match the plates of the car that the author was driving.

      One would think that

  • UPSA (Score:3)

    by awwshit ( 6214476 ) on Saturday July 11, 2026 @10:53AM (#66232842)

    Welcome to the United Police States of America.

    250 years from Freedom to Crush You.

    Flock is pure evil.

  • Money Makers for Money Makers. (Score:5, Interesting)

    by geekmux ( 1040042 ) on Saturday July 11, 2026 @10:53AM (#66232844)

    led police to identify me as a car thief and set up a sting to take me down. I mean, they even had a drone flying overhead during the 'bust'...

    While taxpayers are distracted about the cost of the Flock network in both dollars and privacy, the ones really profiting from all this hope you don't notice the vicious money-burning process that involves this level of taxpayer-funded "just-in-case" police response.

    Just wait until the city gets the bill for that fucking bullshit involving at least 17 corporations, LLCs, non-profits, and partnerships. You thought hospital bills were getting ridiculous, follow THAT money and see how it funds citizen safety. Thrice.

    • Good point. The other thing to note is that if either of our cars were stolen, the cops certainly wouldn't send out multiple units to recover it. It would be more like this scene https://www.youtube.com/watch?... [youtube.com]

  • Obvious mob connection.

  • probable (Score:3)

    by markdavis ( 642305 ) on Saturday July 11, 2026 @10:56AM (#66232854)

    >"A simple data-entry error, magnified and broadcast nationwide by a growing surveillance network operated through an opaque partnership between a private company and public agencies"

    With a large-enough data set (and so many humans involved as well) even the very improbable becomes probable. When you are invading the privacy of drivers many millions of times a day, just the slightest error rate can mean lots of people affected by false positives. And the more they add additional sensors, additional cameras, additional databases and interfaces into other systems, the more dystopian this will become...

  • You keep using that word. I don't think it means what you think it means.

    The phrase you're looking for is "BAU, functioning as designed"

  • Deflock (Score:3)

    by ArchieBunker ( 132337 ) on Saturday July 11, 2026 @11:04AM (#66232876)

    The stasi dreamed of a system like this so check out your nearest privacy nightmare https://deflock.org/ [deflock.org]

    I am happy to report that the camera at my local Home Depot has been run over. What an unfortunate accident!

  • 3 points (Score:5, Interesting)

    by gurps_npc ( 621217 ) on Saturday July 11, 2026 @11:19AM (#66232908) Homepage

    1) The cops in Minneapolis appear to have the reputation for being psychotic morons. Suspects are not always guilty, as shown in this case and Car theft is most often kids joy riding (75%). Yes, 25% of the time it is organized crime (to steal a car for anything more than a joy ride you need good connections to large organizations to either chop it up or ship it out of the country). It is totally unreasonable to draw a gun on people joy riding.

    2) The cops appear to be illiterate. The theft report said 34 DTM. While the flock cameras did not see it was 34 10 DTM, the cops SHOULD have seen the 34 10 DTM and realized something was off before they stopped the vehicle They should still have questioned them, but should have realized before hand that the license plate was not identical to the theft report and gone in more subtely.

    3) Flock is incompetent and should be banned.

    • Re:3 points (Score:5, Insightful)

      by Registered Coward v2 ( 447531 ) on Saturday July 11, 2026 @11:43AM (#66232948)

      1) The cops in Minneapolis appear to have the reputation for being psychotic morons. Suspects are not always guilty, as shown in this case and Car theft is most often kids joy riding (75%). Yes, 25% of the time it is organized crime (to steal a car for anything more than a joy ride you need good connections to large organizations to either chop it up or ship it out of the country). It is totally unreasonable to draw a gun on people joy riding.

      A pro also isn't going to HD with his wife. Thefts by pros disappear quickly because, well, they are pros and want to avoid getting caught.

      2) The cops appear to be illiterate. The theft report said 34 DTM. While the flock cameras did not see it was 34 10 DTM, the cops SHOULD have seen the 34 10 DTM and realized something was off before they stopped the vehicle They should still have questioned them, but should have realized before hand that the license plate was not identical to the theft report and gone in more subtely.

      The problem, as shown in TFA, is the 10 are 2 small numbers stacked vertically between the 34 and DTM, so they get overlooked. Should the police looked closer, sure, but I can also see why the made the error because the 34 DTM is in much larger font size.

      3) Flock is incompetent and should be banned.

      Yes, and should be legally liable for damages in cases like this. At. minimum, if there system catches 34 DTM in multiple areas at the same time, that's signs of a problem, and the art of pattern a computer should be good at detecting. The inability to report a tag as lost also means for this edge case it gets a stolen marker. You could tag it as lost and inform the tag owner not to reuse it if found, and if the correct number was entered if it shows up on a vehicle again mark it as stolen. That of course, would require work and changing a system.

      • Should the police looked closer, sure, but I can also see why the made the error because the 34 DTM is in much larger font size.

        Isn't the whole point of having human beings in the loop that they can deal with limited information and still draw correct conclusions?

        If your entire behaviour is guided by that license plate number then your focus should be on getting your facts straight. Sure, confirmation bias is a thing, but especially police officers should be trained to beware of confirmation bias and so check and recheck before engaging in a stop that could endanger people.

        • Should the police looked closer, sure, but I can also see why the made the error because the 34 DTM is in much larger font size.

          Isn't the whole point of having human beings in the loop that they can deal with limited information and still draw correct conclusions?

          If your entire behaviour is guided by that license plate number then your focus should be on getting your facts straight. Sure, confirmation bias is a thing, but especially police officers should be trained to beware of confirmation bias and so check and recheck before engaging in a stop that could endanger people.

          I agree, and such as mistake could easily end wrong, as the officers pointed out. I am not excusing the mistake made by the police, but there are a few compounding errors that made this happen. First - no check if it is a valid tag number on entry. You'd think Flock would at least do that, as well has have some pattern recognition to pull up an error when the entered number does not match the expected sequence to flag it for review. Secondly, no check to see how often taht tag number pops up and where s

    • 1) The cops in Minneapolis appear to have the reputation for being psychotic morons.

      Really? Because literally nothing in TFA including the video footage points to that. It looked like a perfectly normal data error issue that was resolved respectfully and quickly without issue.

      • "You're lucky we're in Plymouth. If you were in Minneapolis, they definitely would've come at you with guns drawn."

        In your world, clerical errors that turn lost items into crimes and then incriminate the wrong people could/should result in guns pointed at unarmed and innocent people?

        • Guns drawn != guns pointed. And in the case in question the guns weren't even drawn.

          Get a grip buddy.

  • This entire article seems to be blowing this way out of proportion. The car was flagged as stolen due to data-entry error. This isn't Flocks fault. This isn't the local PDs fault either.

    It sounds like this more or less worked as it was suppose to but when incorrect information was entered into the system, it misled the local PD. Had the car actually been stolen, this would of been a success story and we would not be hearing about it because clearly the agenda is "cops bad, flock bad".

    The vast majority of th

    • All cool until it happens to you?

      Dragnets are illegal. The only way this works in any legal sense is that Flock is a private company, a loophole.

      • The article didn't mention anything about a warrant, but this was an operation to recover a reported stolen vehicle. Nothing malicious is taking place. The Range Rover was reported stolen due to a mix up with the original plates.

        Flock is just another tool for the police to use. It worked. They found the reported stolen car. The police also worked with the individual and determined that this was a clerical error. It cost this journal 5 minutes. He wasn't even cuffed and most certainly not arrested.

        So be mad

    • This could be called the equivalent of corporate swatting. People have died as a result of being swatted. Even the summary details how the officer knew it was a huge problem. Drive directly home, do not stop, park it, don't drive it anymore. Further the officer says to the man you are lucky you were here and not Minneapolis.

      This is most certainly news for nerds as nerds (Flock system) could have easily gotten the man & his wife killed.

  • "So Mr. Buttle, what do you have to say for yourself? And Yes, I have form 27b-6 with me today."

  • Systemic problem of always escalating (Score:3)

    by FeelGood314 ( 2516288 ) on Saturday July 11, 2026 @11:54AM (#66232958)
    Remember the kid who was arrested for making a private bomb joke? It was obviously a joke and it got escalated to the point of fighter jets being scrambled. https://www.bbc.com/news/world... [bbc.com]

    We see this time and time again where people in authority face no consequences of escalating a threat when common sense would at least warrant a bit more investigation. The police officers in the case above should be reprimanded and a note be made about their lack of judgement. Either that or they need to show the person sending them out for this arrest had claimed the information they were given was correct with a high degree of confidence. Blindly passing on incorrect or information that has a reasonable chance to be incorrect without also forwarding the confidence level of that information is incompetent and needs to have a consequence.

    • The police officers in the case above should be reprimanded and a note be made about their lack of judgement.

      What lack of judgement? This wasn't a joke, or an obvious joke. It was a data handling error. The police handled it without escalation, and after a quick conversation everything was over, no one was arrested, or even taken to a police station.

      Slashdot: A place where people complain that police don't follow up on crime, and complain when police follow up on crime. A place where people complain that police a militarised psychos who shoot innocents (worth complaining about) and equally complain when they handl

    • ... face no consequences ...

      That's standard for government lawyers and police, military generals, most times, and politicians, most times.

      ... chance to be incorrect ...

      I certainly wonder why there wasn't an data-entry mask so the computer would force the typist to notice the supplied data was wrong. Flock didn't want to spend time and money creating masks for each state.

      Who gets, the blame: Flock for not providing simple data-integrity checks, the typist for not checking/knowing the applicable structure, the person making the report for writing incorrect data,

  • Reminder that Flock cameras are only there for your safety, and are absolutely never used by LE to track down exes, follow partners of otherwise impose on your right to privacy.

    Therefore, you should be extremely careful when handling a 1000+nm wavelength green laser near Flock cameras. Their sensors are pretty sensitive and if you were to accidentally point one at a Flock camera, it could cause permanent damage and prevent it from carrying out its absolutely legal, fine, ethical, above-board actions.
  • Was the author an independent HVAC repairman?
  • This is why I have a custom plate. Granted it says FDPOLES which I explained means "Fire Dept poles" and they approved it :P

  • These Flock cameras are popping up everywhere. You might be able to avoid them for now, but eventually they will be at every intersection. This has already happened in El Cajon, California just east of San Diego. You can't avoid Flock cameras in that town.

    The state of California is suing El Cajon because they let Flock provide the license plate data to the Federal Government contrary to state law.

    Flock is providing an end-run around the 4th amendment to the US constitution as the constitution only regulate

  • LAPD, and others, ending agreement with Flock (Score:3)

    by fahrbot-bot ( 874524 ) on Saturday July 11, 2026 @03:04PM (#66233258)

    LAPD ending deal with company operating license plate-reading cameras [abc7.com] (July 11,2026).

    The Los Angeles Police Department is ending its agreement with Flock Safety, a company that operates surveillance cameras throughout the city.

    LAPD announced that it will allow its agreement with the company to expire Saturday, ending the department's three-year relationship with the security firm - at least for now.

    "This contract is not being renewed because of serious concerns around civil liberties and civil rights issues, particularly around privacy and the data that is being collected from these cameras," said Dean Gialamas, LAPD's chief information officer. "The LAPD had to make a difficult decision, in this case discontinuing using Flock services until we can get those data, privacy, security and sharing concerns ironed out through a contractual relationship."

    LAPD says the department does not use Flock's cameras to help U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement.

    And in Michigan, Flock cameras coming down in Westland; councilmember says contract not renewed [fox2detroit.com]

    "We have received confirmation from the Westland Police Chief that he has decided not to bring the Flock camera contract before City Council for a vote," she said in her post. "It was clear Council was deeply divided on the issue."

    She added that the current Flock cameras placed around the city will remain so, until the contract expires within the next month, before coming down afterward.

    Sampey said that it is an example of city officials listening to residents, many of whom voiced concern about the cameras.

  • quote: dropping off our Amazon returns, we'd just gotten back in the Range Rover

    That Rover has GPS, blaming flock is just click-baiting to get hits. Serial returners are scum.

  • Wasn't this the entire premise of the movie Brazil? We are truly living in the worst timeline.

  • There are some posts saying "don't live there" about flock cameras. You don't get a choice, Cities are allowing them everywhere. To see how many are near you:

    https://dontgetflocked.com/ [dontgetflocked.com]

  • This is your future under mass surveillance; do you like it?

    And remember, this was a mistake. There *will* be cases of malicious "errors" in the system (bribe, blackmail, revenge, etc.)

  • Why in the world is it legal to use different font size on license plates? This is the root cause of this whole FU. If it is legal and happens then why in the world didn't Flock engineers know it was and train their AI to understand that? It reminds me of the time I was developing a system to aid in the design of headlamps. I asked one of the designers if the system needed to handle a specific circumstance. He said No that almost never happened. Meaning - yes it happens. So I included it.
    • What I was wondering was how does New Jersey handle these? They presumably encounter them routinely, especially since they issued them.
      LAPD presumably can deal with California's pecularities like emojis mixed in and permanent disabled plates (with a small DP like the 10). Flock doesn't give a shit.

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