Arizona State Launches Influencer Degree Where Students Must Gain Real Followers (dexerto.com) 192
Arizona State University has launched a 120-credit bachelor's degree in content creation that teaches video, podcasting, branding, analytics, media law, and social strategy. For their capstone, students are "expected to build a real social media account and demonstrate audience growth during the program," reports Dexerto. From the report: The Content Creation BA is housed within ASU's Walter Cronkite School of Journalism and Mass Communication and appears in the university's 2026-2027 course catalog. The 120-credit-hour degree prepares students to become "an influencer and strategic storyteller" by teaching video production, podcasting, personal branding, audience analytics and social media strategy. The program was approved by the ASU University Senate in March 2026. Its proposal said graduates would be prepared to work independently as influencers and content creators across livestreaming, videography, writing, podcasting, graphics and emerging media.
[...] For the program's final project, students will choose a social media platform, such as TikTok, create a content and growth strategy, and attempt to gain real followers throughout the semester. "They will have demonstrable audience growth," [explained Jessica Pucci, senior associate dean at the Cronkite School]. "They will have a platform of their choice with real content and real followers and a real audience behind them." The curriculum includes courses titled How to Become an Influencer, On-Camera Presence, Introduction to Editing, Videography, Podcasting and Audio Storytelling, Social Media Foundations and The Digital Audience.
[...] For the program's final project, students will choose a social media platform, such as TikTok, create a content and growth strategy, and attempt to gain real followers throughout the semester. "They will have demonstrable audience growth," [explained Jessica Pucci, senior associate dean at the Cronkite School]. "They will have a platform of their choice with real content and real followers and a real audience behind them." The curriculum includes courses titled How to Become an Influencer, On-Camera Presence, Introduction to Editing, Videography, Podcasting and Audio Storytelling, Social Media Foundations and The Digital Audience.
Is Arizona even a real state? (Score:2)
Arizona seems like something a californian high on schrooms and lost in the desert made up.
I don't know about a real state (Score:2)
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Are you two, one person with a split personality?
Or is the coward the jilted boyfriend of Silvergun? And you created a fake account for him on some gay hook up site in Asia?
Love is in the air, everywhere I look around
Love is in the air, every sight and every sound
And I don't know if I'm being foolish
Don't know if I'm being wise
But it's something that I must believe in
And it's there when I look at your posts
Get a room you two.
Better than an art degree tbh (Score:4, Insightful)
I made the mistake of going to art school thinking it was actually about the art. This sounds closer to what they were actually trying to teach (poorly).
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There are art schools that teach art well. It is just not most of them. You essentially have to go to one of the few best ones on the planet to get a good education, like the "Akademie der bildenden Künste Wien". Getting in is apparently pretty hard though.
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Any good school for teaching art rather than art criticism would be hard. And would probably only teach one school of art. I doubt that hyperrealists would get along with romanticists.
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That is not how that works.
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Worse, this isn't journalism. This is quid pro quo influence peddling. Bribed, grifted, marketed. It's not journalism in any meaningful way.
Story telling is a broad branch of writing involving various elements of fiction.
Journalism should never be involved in fiction.
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While I agree to what you say, maybe you responded to the wrong posting?
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Well here near me is this famous school called Cranbrook. When I first moved to Michigan from a few states away my friend took me on a tour past the place. It was like a secret village in the woods with rolling hills and fancy stone fences for a few miles. The facility looked like something out of Harry Potter with little lofts and various little village like features everywhere. The view from the street in one specific spot showed a huge Greek column with fountains and statues near a marble staircase. We a
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Probably. The whole premise set makes no sense. You typically have to be at the bad end of things to get large numbers of followers.
The world needs more influencers (Score:5, Funny)
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Also, be a lert, the world needs more lerts.
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The UK gives out visas for professions that cannot be fulfilled with locals.
Like dog-walkers, ballerina, disk-jockeys, party-clowns.....
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Telephone sanitation is more important than you think. You don't want to get wiped out by a particularly virulent telephone, you know.
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Only joke on the rich target? But I was looking for something in the "What could possibly go wrong?" genre.
Yet another... (Score:3)
degree that provides little value to society. Surely worth mom and dad siphoning the savings or taking out debt to develop those narcissism skills.
Re:Yet another... (Score:5, Insightful)
It's a profession like marketing, and in fact it seems to be what comes after marketing. As a parent of three teenagers I can confirm, that a decent social media campaign can yield more more than thousands of bill boards. There is absolutely nothing wrong with doing this professionally, even if old timers like me shake their heads.
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What I have a problem with is not with the information itself, it's with the increasing trend towards abuse. With traditional marketing, it's more obvious that it's sponsored, and there are more obvious standards as far as how far you can go with stretching the t
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There is nothing wrong with professional lying, indoctrination, exploitation and hype-creation? Do you have any morals at all? Or is "making money" the great absolution for all evils in your view?
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"To resist the dark side, you have to join the dark side"? Cool philosophy bro. Now, down here where at least some people try to be good people on the other hand...
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Does getting an education about for example the Nazis mean joining the Nazis?
Studying marketing is not studying "about" marketing. It is education on how to do it. Seriously. And if that is the primary education, then yes, it means joining them.
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I see your point, but I find little value in it personally....though I suppose I see little value in people who engage in "traditional" marketing as well.
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Goodhart's law (Score:2)
"When a measure becomes a target, it ceases to be a good measure."
-- Goodhart's law
You can bet that there will be special offers to buy followers in Arizona. Also students will make deals to follow each other and test how many accounts they can create themselves without the social networks noticing.
Re: Goodhart's law (Score:2)
So, uh, just like real world influencers?
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Yep. Just one of the many things wrong with this idea.
Is the teacher qualified? (Score:5, Insightful)
That is, do they have a social media account with at least 50,000 followers?
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The entire program is actually a reality show run by MrBeast.
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I would definitely watch MrBeast attempting to teach college students how to do his job.
Especially if they decided to make it a 'unscripted' show where they picked a bunch of idiots and advised them to act even stupider than they were.
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I would definitely watch MrBeast attempting to teach college students how to do his job.
MrBeast at some point straight up admitted that he gamed the YouTube algorithm and that it would be nearly impossible to replicate his success now. The guy is also definitely no Elon Musk when it comes to diversifying his businesses. His "virtual kitchen" burgers make Steak-n-Shake look like haute cuisine, and I really don't know what possessed him to conclude that America needed yet another brand of extremely mediocre chocolate snacks.
Decide if you are a University or a Trade School (Score:5, Interesting)
Social media influencing is "Marketing". Marketing is an area of theoretical study. A university should be offering degrees in 'bigger picture' areas of expertise that one can take an apply. This is not at all to suggest that academic institutions of that type should not offer, even require course that do focus on a practical application like social media influencing. Because the ability to take the lofty concepts and applying them in practical way is part of being an expert in any given area.
You get a degree in mechanical or possibly 'Automotive' engineering if you want to go to work ultimately designing engines; you absolutely would be doing a good deal of course work that focus on small gasoline powered internal combustion power plants, but your overall area of study is still broader.
Universities need to get smarter about how to track trends and meet immediate labor market needs without spinning up entirely new programs, that are so narrow they face a real possibility of not making any real sense at less than a decade or two down the line. This kind of thing is why the public gets a dim view of education and why more and more people look at the ROI of these degrees and go "nope" even though the analysis might be wrong (after all they haven't had the freshman stats course yet). They see a chart showing how going to work earlier and chasing compound interest with with lower wages beats school and higher wages later on average but forget about the fact that people with 'social media influence degrees" who also end up making coffee pull down the average. Actually getting a degree in mechanical engineering, economics, medical etc, usually will pay off.
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“Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.”
-George Carlin
Whut? (Score:2)
Which platform... (Score:5, Insightful)
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Even that would not assure higher follower numbers. There is too much porn and too much porn-adjacent content on the Internet already.
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ASU?
Almost a certainty that the female (and probably some of the male) students already have it.
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Arizona State University Offers Business Degree (Score:2)
"Students will be given classes in economics, banking, getting loans and registering businesses selling widgets. To graduate, students must show that their business made a profit."
WTF people?
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This is just the worship of the Great God Mammon, "academic" version.
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To be fair. this is a University with a 90% acceptance rate. It makes Greendale Community college look respectable. No offence Todd.
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To be fair. this is a University with a 90% acceptance rate. It makes Greendale Community college look respectable. No offence Todd.
That doesn't mean anything. The school acceptance rate doesn't say anything about the quality of education.
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An audience of fools (Score:5, Insightful)
One must ask: why would anyone want to be "influenced" in the first place?
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Re:calling salespeople something else? (Score:2)
"Sales person" or "marketer" sounds negative. It's kind of how "Janitor" became "Sanitation Engineer". So the new generation is glowmaxing their favorite occupations.
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That is just the thing. People do not want this, but the aim of all good influencing/propaganda/manipulation/indoctrination is to change that and make people like being abused. Pure, undiluted evil, of course, but some people get off on that and others do not care how much harm they cause as long as they earn money.
Streamer U (Score:2)
Arizona State? I thought Streamer University is currently happening at Hendrix College in Conway, Arkansas!?
Streamer University - Wikipedia https://share.google/krqmS3VhP... [share.google]
And the best student of the class? (Score:2)
He/she will mysteriously disappear, because people that can manipulate the masses this well are needed elsewhere
Wrong headline (Score:2)
The headline should be "Arizona State University Offers BA in Narcissism"
I remember when they were a school that wasn't a fucking joke - my father got an accounting degree and a CPA from ASU as his second bachelor's.
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While I share your disdain for most "influencers", it's no more narcissistic than, say, public speaking, or politics, or opera (or any singing), or any degree that involves getting in front of people demonstrating skills of one sort or another.
So, you mean sales? (Score:2)
Hitchhikers guide to the galaxy (Score:2)
...had a wonderful solution for people like these.
Probably a bad idea; not obviously a bad degree. (Score:2)
As much as I'm not happy about it, PR and marketing are absolutely entire fields; and I'd assume that people doing those things whose client is themselves would also benefit from a dash of entertainment related law; contracts and accounting related to dealing with sponsor agreements; and the same sort
PhD's require publishing 'novel' ideas (Score:2)
I mean I get all of this but one thing that I rather disliked about PhD's is the idea that someone is becoming an expert on a topic, by showing that they can advance the topic with a new idea. Sure the idea is the degree leads you to a research company where you need to continue creating new ideas, or a teaching position where you aren't expected to just teach, but continue advancing research but... If we want most of our advanced teachers to hold PhDs to prove they are experts on a topic, why don't we hav
Acquiring followers isn't magic (Score:2)
It's called marketing. Sorry to burst everyone's bubble, influencers don't acquire followers because they're so amazing and people just flock to them. They acquire followers because they engage in good old fashioned...marketing. They literally pay marketers money to get them into your feed.
That gizmo they just discovered and think is amazing? Yeah, they're getting paid to promote it. That restaurant or destination they are gushing about? Yeah, they're getting paid for that too. They work very hard to appear
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If it's just marketing, as you say, how many followers can you get for the Poop emoji?
There's more to it than "just marketing". There has to be something of interest, regardless of how banal others might consider it, to get them to follow you.
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The assumption is that the "influencer" has something useful to share. Given that, you don't acquire followers without marketing.
It is a career field (Score:2)
Remove how silly it sounds from the get-go. It's an evolution of marketing and PR. It should be a specialty or certificate; anyone successful won't stick around for 120 credits. New platforms will be created and fall within the 4 years of required classes.
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Degree in Moderation (Score:2)
I will be offering a Degree in Moderation, get every single student in this program to be blocked by every social media platform before they complete their term.
Audience growth (Score:2)
For the program's final project, students will choose a social media platform, such as TikTok, create a content and growth strategy, and attempt to gain real followers throughout the semester. "They will have demonstrable audience growth,"
So they start with their Mom as a follower and by the end of the year they have about as many followers as are enrolled in the same course
If you failed the real-estate agent exam... (Score:2)
Still Better Than... (Score:2)
A degree in Influencer, whether it's an AA or a PhD, is still better than anything in Women's Studies.
How Social Media Is Wrecking Kids (Score:2)
“In this episode of The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast, Jonathan Haidt joins Peterson to examine how technology use, particularly social media and smartphones, affects youth mental health. They discuss the sharp rise in anxiety and depression among young people since 2012-2013, with particular focus on how these technologies impact boys and girls differently. While girls face challenges from social comparison and pee
I am a little bit puzzled (Score:2)
Aren't these kind of controversial degrees the specialty of bullshit private universities ?
I mean, even serious universities have mediocre to outright bullshit degrees, but they try to stay into socially established degrees. They want the money bad students bring without being too obvious, and they make a balance between the money it brings and the reputational cost. The communication degree of my Alma Mater had an atrocious reputation, but degrees in communication were common so in that regard they could a
Silly University (Score:2)
Why do you need the degree if you have the followers?
Influencer degree lol (Score:2)
Imagine going into debt to get a College Degree to become an influencer . . . . . :|
As an influencer, your usefullness to society is right up there with overpaid Athletes
and people who know how to cry on cue. ( actors )
In addition, the odds of you making it into the big leagues where the real money exists
is about as likely as a lottery win.
But, go ahead, get your influencer degree.
As the old adage goes:
" A fool and his money are soon parted. "
We humans are obviously fucked (Score:2)
When we award degrees for something so banal and trivial, you can be certain that the end times are near. And deservedly so.
We have PROOF it's a garbage degree designed to... (Score:3)
trick a whole new batch of kids into massive piles of education load debt.
Consider: The internet is, and for YEARS has been, completely awash in so-called influencers. NONE of them got those positions by getting a degree. NO DEGREE EXISTED OR WAS REQUIRED. The dumbest people on Earth were capable of teaching themselves to be influencers. The primary "skill" in many cases seems to have been "willing to do something outrageous that was beneath what others were willing to do, no experience required".
When a college/university starts a degree program for something flashy and current, but which has existed for years with no degree programs or degrees at all, the purpose cannot possibly be that society has a need for people trained in this supposedly new thing. The Professors involved have nothing to profess. The people with all the experience are clearly NOT the ones in academia who plan to expound upon this subject, for a premium price. This is all about making money from a new generation of kids whose families insist they should go to college but who have no deep desire to be doctors, lawyers, engineers, etc and simply want to be the next Kardashian... it's another trick to get kids to sign-up to be the pipeline of cash where a kid gets a loan of government cash, hands it to a college, and then the kid is on the hood to repay it while the college laughs and the kid is left with a career as a barista or a lifeguard.
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You appear to have awfully strong opinions on something you think should not be studied...
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Astrology, voodoo and divination are all things that aren't real.
Are you saying gender isn't real? That's a rather extreme position I must say. Maybe someone should study why people like you adopt such extreme views on gender and why any discussion of such things makes them so angry. We could name the course "Study about gender" or something like that.
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Legitimate courses at real universities
"Simpsons and Philosophy" (UC Berkeley), using the show to teach philosophical concepts
"Arguing with Judge Judy: Popular 'Logic' on TV Judge Shows" (UC Berkeley), explicitly framed as not a law course but an exercise in spotting logical fallacies used by litigants on courtroom TV
"Sociology of Fame and Lady Gaga" (University of South Carolina), whose syllabus pointedly warns students it's "not a course in Lady Gaga but in sociology," with no music or video allowed in cl
Re: Eh, well, why not? (Score:2)
Gender is real as long as you mean it as equivalent of biological sex. If you mean it as a separate concept, then no it does not exist. It is pure bullshit that was put in your fragile brain.
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Can you point me to a single biology class today studies why angry people have such strong yet inaccurate opinions on gender and studies thereof?
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astrology, voodoo and divination most certainly are real and have deep cultural roots in humans, are you saying that human culture should not be studied, do you think there is nothing to be learned about belief systems just because you don't (I presume) practice those beliefs ?
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In the US, about 4.7 million people (4,7000,000) got a college degree in 2024.
Of those people, less than 10,000 got one in gender studies. (less than 0.22%). Of those 10,000, more than 1,300 (13%) came from one university:
University of Missouri-Columbia
This is not a 'United States" problem really. What appears to be happening is that in a few rare locations (Missouri being one of them) there are a bunch of sexist a-holes. These a-holes create massive problems for a small subset of people, who then go to
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how many jobs are out there that require a degree in Gender Studies specifically (as opposed to "any 4 year degree" types)
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The jobs they get are things like:
Social Worker
Guidance Counselor
Lobbyists
HR in companies that were sued for sexist behavior.
There are more than 20 times positions as graduates.
However, those jobs are mostly relatively poor paying.
From a financial position, I would advise people to go to some mechanics trade school instead. Elevator repair and airplane maintainer are great jobs you can get without a college degree and pay more.
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Your four examples are quite awful jobs. Who in hell would want to become that ? (I had a friend at uni whose parents were both social workers, they had not chosen their field. They suffered a lot from the fact that social work is usually about not helping people and often keeping their heads down and dispatching the people in duress towards the jobs nobody wanted, also because most students were morons to the point of being embarrassing and tiring.)
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Would it help you to know that Men's Studies is a sub-field of Gender Studies?
We hear a lot about how young men are disaffected and forgotten by society. Shame nobody is looking into that or trying to understand it, or we could do something about it.
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In one glib post, you dun thousands of researchers, not to mention those that don't fit a mold of strictly male and female. It's not only science, but proven science. Open your eyes, please. Accept that there are people who are not like you. Their reality is not necessarily your context or experience. And yours, is not theirs.
Re: Eh, well, why not? (Score:2)
1000s of bullshit researchers, sure.
Re: Eh, well, why not? (Score:2)
With a tiny percentage of people with chromosome mutations (those are unfortunate aberrations) everyone fit male and female perfectly
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Go deeper.
Understand the hormonal doses, and what they do, from conception through late puberty. What happens when they're out of norm. How this forms up to seventeen different brain types from the same 23 pairs of chromosomes-- and that's IF these are normal XY or XX pairs.
Brain and body sex are threaded, and the hormonal doses you get from conception through age 23 can alter the path of how you sense your gender. A standard issue XY, as an example, can have brain-development-altering consequences from the
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Scientifically that's completely irrelevant. Hormones are hormones, and XX and XY are XX and XY. A very low-testosterone male is still a low-testosterone male, not a female, or whatever new gender you want to invent. Same for low oestrogen females.
I feel like the whole non-binary alphabet nonsense was borne of confusion between the biological reality of gender/sex and social/cultural idea of what a male / female is. As far as biological reality goes, it really simple, XX is female and XY is male. Social ide
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Gender is a social construct, so studying it is equivalent to studying something imaginary? Is that the gist of your argument?
A hot take, but not entirely wrong.
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You really can't see why studying human social behavior and history could help in a job where you're dealing with the general public?
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I don't see where "Gender Studies" would apply to any job really....no.
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Re:Eh, well, why not? (Score:5, Insightful)
Fox News really is your crack pipe.
Let's hear your breakdown on how gender studies relates to Marxism (which you couldn't explain without googling first).
Some self realization would do you wonders.
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Let's hear your breakdown on how gender studies relates to Marxism (which you couldn't explain without googling first).
I googled it and I still can't figure it out.