Watch a SpaceX Rocket Crash Into the Moon (yahoo.com) 86
A four-ton SpaceX Falcon 9 upper stage left drifting after a 2025 lunar mission is expected to crash into the Moon at about 5,400 mph, likely striking Einstein Crater. The impact should occur at approximately 2:35 a.m. ET (0635GMT). Reuters reports: Such stages typically fall back into Earth's atmosphere and burn up or plunge into the ocean after boosting the rocket's payload to a precise spot in orbit. But because the January lunar lander mission required more thrust than missions closer to Earth, the rocket's second stage remained in space, floating aimlessly among thousands of other pieces of space junk that active satellites must steer clear of. It was not until earlier this year that astronomers determined that the rocket stage, which had dumped its remaining fuel and cannot be controlled, was on an orbital trajectory ending at the moon.
"What has happened is essentially a mixture of solar activity and gravity forces have put it on a path toward the moon," Julianna Scheiman, SpaceX director of NASA science and Dragon programs, told reporters on Monday. "This may be of some -- probably minor -- scientific interest, and we may learn some things from it," said Bill Gray, creator of widely used astronomy software who published a report on the stage's impact in April. "It doesn't present any danger to anyone, though it does highlight a certain carelessness about how leftover space hardware (space junk) is disposed of." You can try to watch the impact via a livestream on YouTube; however, the area it's expected to hit (Einstein Crater) is on the moon's western limb, "which is often difficult to see from Earth," notes Reuters. It will also likely "kick up a plume of lunar dust that will likely be illuminated by sunlight but difficult to spot with the naked eye from Earth."
"What has happened is essentially a mixture of solar activity and gravity forces have put it on a path toward the moon," Julianna Scheiman, SpaceX director of NASA science and Dragon programs, told reporters on Monday. "This may be of some -- probably minor -- scientific interest, and we may learn some things from it," said Bill Gray, creator of widely used astronomy software who published a report on the stage's impact in April. "It doesn't present any danger to anyone, though it does highlight a certain carelessness about how leftover space hardware (space junk) is disposed of." You can try to watch the impact via a livestream on YouTube; however, the area it's expected to hit (Einstein Crater) is on the moon's western limb, "which is often difficult to see from Earth," notes Reuters. It will also likely "kick up a plume of lunar dust that will likely be illuminated by sunlight but difficult to spot with the naked eye from Earth."
First impact was in 1959 (Score:5, Informative)
"Luna 1 (January 1959) missed its intended impact with the Moon and became the first spacecraft to escape the Earth-Moon system. Luna 2 (September 1959) mission successfully hit the Moon's surface, becoming the first man-made object to reach the Moon.”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org]
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That does not count.
They were Russian probes/artifacts.
And it was a hoax anyway.
They were sent up there to paint the moon red, and print Coca Cola on it.
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That does not count. They were Russian probes/artifacts. And it was a hoax anyway. They were sent up there to paint the moon red, and print Coca Cola on it.
I think you mean Hammer and Sickle. The Coca Cola was for the competing American mission that had corporate sponsorship. :-)
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Yeah, I forgot the "whole joke".
It was like: some guy storms into Kennedy's office and yells "The Russians want to land on the moon and paint it red!"
And Kennedy simply replies: "who cares? We write Coca Cola on it!"
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FWIW, the First impact was in 1959.
And here I thought the First Impact was billions of years ago, when the Black Moon carrying Lilith crashed into the Earth.
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FWIW, the First impact was in 1959.
And here I thought the First Impact was billions of years ago, when the Black Moon carrying Lilith crashed into the Earth.
Well Tom Cruise was not my source so I missed that. :-)
I misread headline & jumped for joy (Score:5, Funny)
"Watch SpaceX Crash Into the Moon"
Re: I misread headline & jumped for joy (Score:5, Funny)
Their stock crashed. To the moon is an entirely different story.
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Just wait until they get that massive ticket for littering...
Elon said (Score:5, Funny)
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"I want to make rockets 100 times, if not 1,000 times better. The ultimate objective is to make humanity a multiplanet species. Thirty years from now, there'll be a base on the moon and on Mars, and people will be going back and forth on SpaceX rockets."
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I'll leave it as an exercise to the reader who's the looser here
I doubt GP is as loose as Elon, considering the number of women the latter has impregnated.
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I'm making a hand gesture at you right now. Now I'm making another one. Guess what they were!
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Elon is a eugenicist who is either a genius like you think he is or threw two blatant Nazi salutes in a row accidentally or is just actually a fucking Nazi. Pick one.
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No. Nobody who is a genius does Nazi salutes ACCIDENTALLY
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No. Nobody who is a genius does Nazi salutes ACCIDENTALLY
Genius is usually quite narrowly focused. A genius on one area is often a poor performer in other areas, although many geniuses are arrogant enough to believe otherwise.
Its only resembles a nazi salute when you ignore his words and context, giving his heart to the crowd. When photos of Hillary and Obama are shown with similar arm gestures, people rightfully dismiss the nazi salute idea given context. Rational people dismiss Elon’s gesture given the context too, in particular various jewish civil ri
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Not going to defend those Nazi salutes, it wasn't an accident, and speaks volumes about his personality.
No, it speaks volumes about you ignoring the context and words of the moment, a giving of his heart to the ground, being grateful for their support. If we look at pictures of Hillary or Obama making similar gestures I suspect you would instantly, and rightfully, use context to determine of a gesture is a nazi salute or not. Elon being an a-hole does not change the fact that context says none of them are making nazi salue. Not Hillary, not Obama, not Elon.
Being an a-hole is more a part of the common geniu
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No, it speaks volumes about you ignoring the context and words of the moment, a giving of his heart to the ground, being grateful for their support.
Cuck.
If we look at pictures of Hillary or Obama making similar gestures
If we do that, their faces won't have a look of hate on them at the time.
Cuck.
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No, it speaks volumes about you ignoring the context and words of the moment, a giving of his heart to the ground, being grateful for their support.
Cuck.
You are projecting, the “cuck” is the one going with the politically safe.
If we look at pictures of Hillary or Obama making similar gestures
If we do that, their faces won't have a look of hate on them at the time. Cuck.
Again, just outimg yourself as the “cuck” in this conversation. Also, Elon having hate on his face at the time is another false claim. Trying watching the actual video and listening to the words, he was serious and grateful. But doing so would take balls, so I doubt you will.
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They repeatedly vote for DSA candidates like Mamdani, who are openly antisemitic.
Its more that the pro-Hammas type are unaware that the Palestinian militants are literally former Nazi allies. The Grand Mufti of Jerusalem was a personal friend and ally of Hitler. The Grand Mufti discussed elements of the "final solution” with Hitler. This alliance continued post war as Palestine Liberation Organization fighters were literally trained by former SS officers is special operations tactics.
You calling Elon a Nazi, because he made a stupid hand gesture (and possibly because he bought Twitter and restored it to the way it was ten years prior) makes you look like an ignorant fucktard.
A gesture that was not meant to be a nazi salute, a gesture matching the words he was speaking at
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Lots of people hate Nazis, we used to consider that normal
We do consider that normal, you just conflate false accusations with actual nazis.
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, you're shitposting hate at him on slashdot :DDDDDD
How is that a shitpost? It's an actual quote. There are many places where you can find it. Here is one: https://quotefancy.com/quote/1... [quotefancy.com]
If you think that is a shitposting, then that perhaps illustrates what you think of Musk?
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He has said a lot of ridiculous things, like "I want to make rockets 100 times, if not 1,000 times better. The ultimate objective is to make humanity a multiplanet species. Thirty years from now, there'll be a base on the moon and on Mars, and people will be going back and forth on SpaceX rockets."
He's crashing rockets into Moon, you're shitposting hate at him on slashdot :DDDDDD
I'll leave it as an exercise to the reader who's the looser here :DDDDDDD
We all know the answer to 'Who's looser' is always 'yo momma.'
I get that spelling is hard for some, but the word you were looking for is 'loser.' Like the guy trying to shit-post and fucking up the basics.
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But grownups ignore minor spelling mistakes in comments, whether they agree or disagree with the point being made.
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I too could crash rockets on the moon with hundreds of billions in disposable income.
You're riding his dick for free.
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Come on, I'm not in any way a fan of Musk, but he appears to have (at least until recently) let the adults run things at SpaceX while he just takes the credit for it, and when Falcon 9 was first flying, his entire net worth was "hundreds of millions" rather than having "hundreds of billions in disposable income."
Oher rich people have played with rockets, too. He's, shockingly, mostly succeeded, and while his actual personal achievements here are far closer to Al Gore's infamous claim about the internet (hi
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I would say the non-litterer is preferable to the person who even litters on the moon.
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DNC: Hold my beer...
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What a coincidence, the ideas of Stalin and Mao are not just popular, but being implemented by the DNC!
What ideas are those? Are you familiar with the policies of Stalin and Mao in any way, or are you just parroting something somebody else told you?
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( For the record, I do not find Musk's statement here ridiculous. )
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It's not like this is a new idea he came up with. We've been talking about it since before we knew how to reach orbit. Haven't you ever read "Red Planet", "Podkayne of Mars", "Stranger in a Strange Land", "The Martian Chronicles", "The Expanse", "Red Mars", or any of the hundreds of other books written about it?
This is a goal that very many people share. It's a profoundly difficult undertaking, but not impossible.
Now, I do think that we could actually terrafo
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Sad to say, but humanity is not going to become a "multiplanetary species" anytime soon.
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I'm using fiction as an example of how this is a long-standing shared dream, not something ridiculous Musk just came up with on his own, as you implied. This is something we as a species have been looking at and working on for decades. It has been a long-term goal of every space program. People said landing on the moon was ridiculous or even impossible, but we did it. The only difference here is scale.
I reject your pessimism. That never accomplishes anything. Stop focusing
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I would call it realism, not pessimism. If you take Mars seriously, read up on reality.
And no, this has little to do with Musk, just reality.
But Musk is known for his large amount of ridiculous exaggerations. It's almost his signature.
There are many lists of lies and nonsense online, which can be entertaining reading if you don't take any of it seriously.
"If you want to be succes
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We don't even have a permanent colony on Antarctica, just scientific expeditions manned part-time.
To be a multi-planet species, we would need at least one permanent colony on a second planet (Mars, presumably).
Mars is a LOT harder than Antarctica.
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And don't you dream of a future where we spread across the solar system and beyond? Hasn't that been a shared goal for decades? We've been writing about it since before we could even leave the atmosphere.
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Long term, perhaps. But I do understand that before I start making a place to display my Olympic gold medal in swimming, I should first be able to traverse the kiddie pool without needing the lifeguard.
It might be a good idea to practice on Antarctica first, then think about how we get to Mars.
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Yes (Score:3)
ACCIDENTAL impact
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Yes, accidental as in not done deliberately.
So much for SpaceX Autopilot Mode ... (Score:5, Funny)
SpaceX Rocket Crash Into the Moon
Incident Report: "Mr. Musk remarked: That Moon came out of nowhere."
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Musk: "Stupid woke moon, eh, should be locked up or given correctional therapy to, eh, put it into a business-friendly orbit. It's in a socialist orbit right now. Put the socialists in orbit instead, heh heh heh."
Pffft (Score:4, Funny)
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It happened (Score:5, Informative)
https://www.independent.co.uk/space/spacex-rocket-moon-crash-falcon-9-b3027645.html
Re:happened, not visible from Earth (Score:1)
I want a refund on my See Instant Crater event tickets! They costed me half a bitcoin, dammit!
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This was unexpected and I am afraid this was outside the terms of our refund conditions.
Cannot have an Area 51 on the moon (Score:2)
when it's our own junk
Ralph Cramden was a visionary... (Score:3)
Ralph Kramden (from the "Honeymooners") was a visionary...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?... [youtube.com]
Mayhaps SpaceX should put out a PR publicity post and blame Ralph (or Alice?) :)
JoshK.
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If you like littering on the moon, then sure. Why not aim for the sun?
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Another thought came to mind. Let's assume we have intentionally fired and targeted rockets, and choice is between the Moon and the Sun.
Moon obviously. Takes less propellant than impacting the sun. Less propellant use means more payload = cheaper per unit of payload.
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You can't "aim for the sun." It's easier to go to another star than it is to drop something into the sun.
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Of course it's not impossible. It IS impossible for a spent booster. It's also impossible for every single rocket and spacecraft we've ever made, by a long shot. Also the ones we haven't made. A theoretical fully fueled Starship already in orbit with no payload is about a quarter of the way there.
The reason SpaceX's second stage is hitting the moon is because it was used to send something there in the first place.
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Google "the tyranny of the rocket equation."
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Trash has been taken out.
No I checked, Elon Musk is still here on Earth.