SpaceX Plans to Build a $100 Billion Spaceport In Louisiana (cnbc.com) 179
SpaceX plans to spend up to $100 billion building a new Starship launch facility in Vermilion Parish, Louisiana, which the state says could eventually "support thousands of launches annually." CNBC reports: Once built, Starbase, LA will serve as the main launch facility for Starship, SpaceX's in-development rocket that's the largest ever built and designed to be fully reusable. Musk has aspirations to massively expand SpaceX's Starlink satellite network, to launch orbital data centers and to someday colonize Mars. Those ambitions, and justification for SpaceX's nearly $2 trillion market cap, hinge on the success of Starship.
SpaceX said, in a video posted to its website on Tuesday, that the search for a site to build launch pads and have access to ample fuel for its operations took about seven years. Musk said in the video that the company would bring "probably 10,000 really exciting jobs" to Louisiana with the spaceport. A fact sheet posted online by the state of Louisiana said SpaceX is expected to generate an estimated "3,000 direct new jobs over the next 10 years" in the state, and "8,100 indirect new jobs." SpaceX said it would work on a "historic coastal restoration" in Louisiana, in partnership with the state to "bring the marsh back" and ensure the wetlands around its new facility will have "storm protection."
SpaceX said, in a video posted to its website on Tuesday, that the search for a site to build launch pads and have access to ample fuel for its operations took about seven years. Musk said in the video that the company would bring "probably 10,000 really exciting jobs" to Louisiana with the spaceport. A fact sheet posted online by the state of Louisiana said SpaceX is expected to generate an estimated "3,000 direct new jobs over the next 10 years" in the state, and "8,100 indirect new jobs." SpaceX said it would work on a "historic coastal restoration" in Louisiana, in partnership with the state to "bring the marsh back" and ensure the wetlands around its new facility will have "storm protection."
This is great for polar launches in particular (Score:5, Informative)
Although the site provides a rather large range of launch inclinations, even down to ~25 degrees if you dogleg around the Florida keys, the real price here is polar launches. You launch South, and the booster comes in over open water for the catch. You wait 12 hours for the Earth to make half a rotation under your ship's orbit, and then you come in for a ship catch from the South, thus alleviating any problematic land overflights.
This is particularly interesting for shipping cargo to a South Polar Basin base on the Moon; a polar orbit on Earth translates beautifully to a polar orbit around the Moon, from where you can land straight in the Aitkin polar basin.
Re:This is great for polar launches in particular (Score:4, Informative)
You had me intrigued, so I did some checking. It's much cheaper fuel-wise to launch into a circumpolar orbit than to launch equatorially and change orbital planes, either at the earth or the moon. So, launching circumpolar wins there.
However, it's much cheaper still to launch equatorially, with the earth's rotation as a boost, and then adjust the arrival plane at the moon during trans-lunar injection. You can even do it during the TLI burn that pushes you out of earth orbit.
So, no need for an earth-circumpolar orbit if your destination is the moon in a circumpolar orbit.
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Keeping the first stage booster landing over water is a good idea. Of course, any problems and that rocket could be landing unscheduled on an offshore oil rig. Of which there are thousands. That would be sub-optimal to say the least.
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Circumpolar launches of starlink are done from Vandenberg. It also has a big ocean south of it.
Nice choice Elmo (Score:2)
What with Louisiana's deep care for the environment, a little bit more....actually, a lot bit more pollution from Elmo will be welcome. Louisiana does not need any healthy residents as long as the money flows.
Re: Nice choice Elmo (Score:2)
Just keep adding star bases to states and he can install all the puppet presidents he wants.
Re: Nice choice Elmo (Score:2)
The tough reality about puppet presidents is that their heads are full of stuffing.
"built and designed to be fully reusable" (Score:2, Funny)
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Just like in Texas (Score:5, Informative)
in partnership with the state to "bring the marsh back" and ensure the wetlands around its new facility will have "storm protection."
Meanwhile, he's dumping tens of thousands of industrial wastewater discharge into wetlands [npr.org] around his Texas facility and doesn't even get a slap on the wrist. And now he wants to destroy more wetland acreage [houstonchronicle.com] while still claiming he's trying to save humanity [androidheadlines.com].
Then there is the damage his launches are causing [texastribune.org] to local residences above and beyond the obvious noise. The other thing to look out for is how close to "those" people will this launch site be? He's already polluting the atmosphere around his data center in Memphis by illegally using gas turbines [cnbc.com] to power the place. Or will the regime step in and wave their hand saying there's no issue [yahoo.com] since the people being affected aren't the right kind of people?
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FUCK RACISM (Score:2)
WHITE IS NOT A RACE
Re: FUCK RACISM (Score:2)
There is context there you are willfully ignoring, but since ignorance is the basis of racism that's not surprising
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Elon Musk literally wore a necklace honoring the Jewish victims of an attack for over a year and people still called him a Nazi.
That's what we usually call people who make angry faces and Nazi salutes at the same time to their audience of white supremacists. You're just mad because we're perceptive enough to see through the same bullshit that fooled you.
Re: Just like in Texas (Score:2)
If they are trying to delude dumb shits? Ask a hard one.
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You are spot on. Elon Musk literally wore a necklace honoring the Jewish victims of an attack for over a year and people still called him a Nazi.
Yes, that's kind of like how people who run someone over with their car and then go to an alcohol treatment program ordered by a judge still get called dangerous drunks. Or, in other words, you're skipping over the precipitating events to him receiving that pendant and making sure to to display it at public events. Those events involved him doing clearly anti-Semitic things. I hardly find a publicity stunt like that convincing.
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You mean the site whose water discharge processes were indeed certified shortly after that article in 2025?
https://www.faa.gov/media/9434... [faa.gov]
Water discharge is covered in section 3.2.7, fyi.
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While they're making it sound philanthropic, they're going to have to fill on a lot of werlands to build Starbase.2. They're required by federal law to either build and maintain an equal amount of new wetlands or purchase federal wetlands offset credits for an absurd amount of money.
Let me guess (Score:4, Insightful)
The politicians have strapped on their knee pads and will offer zero taxes on everything. In a bottom tier state that desperately needs funding.
How much is the state paying them in (Score:2)
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SpaceX said it would work on a "historic coastal restoration" in Louisiana, in partnership with the state to "bring the marsh back"
So far SpaceX has ecologically been a net negative. This statement features negative credibility.
Mudjacking? (Score:2)
Exactly how's he gonig to build this spaceport? Will he build an artificial cliff 20m or so high, so that as sea levels rise, it's not underwater? And what's he going to do to protect against hurricanes, which WILL hit it?
For those that don't know (most of you), KSC was built on an island where hurricanes *don't* usually hit - they go north or south of it, which is why it sticks out the way it does.
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Luzy-anna (Score:2)
Down here in Loozyanna there's quite a lot of ship building work. 84 shipyards, 20 some defense and aerospace companies. I imagine it will be relatively easy to hire the blue collar workers needed for a major space port. There are some industries that pay well when there's demand: welding, fabrication, machine shop work, other trades. There are independent machine shops that would make sense to use a job shops for building and maintaining a large space port.
Buildings will need to be sea and hurricane resist
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Re: Took 7 years but... (Score:4, Informative)
That's an interesting theory considering SpaceX is still actively building new facilities in Texas, including what is the largest PCB factory in the world, and what will likely be the largest solar panel factory in the world.
I think it's more likely due to the fact that Louisiana just happens to have a big, wide open terrain much more suitable for a high-volume spaceport than Texas does. Starbase isn't intended to be high volume, it's intended for research and development.
I don't know if you've ever been near any spaceport at all, but people who have only been to within 20 miles of Cape Canaveral for the very first time in their lives tend to panic, thinking they're experiencing an earthquake only for somebody who has spent any amount of time there to say "nah, that's just a liftoff, probably falcon 9". Having said that, falcon 9 is a much smaller, much less powerful rocket than starship. Think about what that might mean for nearby populations that are near any spaceports.
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References I could find say they want to build a 10GW solar panel factory, which if accurate wouldn't even make the top 10 world wide. Most of the larger ones are in China, but the Canadian Solar one is also larger than that.
Couldn't find data for the PCB factory, but I'd be very surprised if it was anything like the scale of the Chinese ones.
Speaking of, they are launching from barges off-shore, due to geography. Has the additional benefit of not destroying the launch complex when the rocket explodes.
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References I could find say they want to build a 10GW solar panel factory, which if accurate wouldn't even make the top 10 world wide.
That's the facility that will be attached to the existing Starlink dish factory in Bastrop. That one will be optimized for satellite solar panel arrays. The big solar panel factory, 100GW.proposed, is in a different county. That is a nutty number. It very much would be the single largest plant int he world. Currently in permitting so will have to wait a year or two to see if dirt actually moves.
Yes, the original original poster was incorrect on the PCB factory. That Starlink dish factory is the larges
Louisiana has more foliage ... (Score:2)
I don't know if you've ever been near any spaceport at all, but people who have only been to within 20 miles of Cape Canaveral for the very first time in their lives tend to panic, thinking they're experiencing an earthquake only for somebody who has spent any amount of time there to say "nah, that's just a liftoff, probably falcon 9".
Louisiana has more foliage than Texas, to absorb the shock wave and sound.
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“What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.”
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You seem to have completely missed that the comparison in the comment you originally replied to was talking about Cape Canaveral launches and people's reactions to those. Cape Canaveral has plenty of foliage. It's basically inside a wildlife refuge.
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You seem to have completely missed that the comparison in the comment you originally replied to was talking about Cape Canaveral launches and people's reactions to those. Cape Canaveral has plenty of foliage. It's basically inside a wildlife refuge.
Not really, the pictures I've seen of Canaveral launches where a crowd is wowed by the physical experience of a launch is rather devoid of foliage.
foliage
noun
Plant leaves, especially tree leaves, considered as a group.
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I think it's more likely due to the fact that Louisiana just happens to have a big, wide open terrain much more suitable for a high-volume spaceport than Texas does.
I went through every word of this sentence, trying to make sense of it. It just does not add up. I think it has something to do with the words "big and wide" in relation to Texas that is really working me over. Perhaps it is the location in relation to the equator that is throwing me. Can you restate the sentence in English so I can understand it please because it sounds like total nonsense to me.
Re: Took 7 years but... (Score:2)
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There's only so much that California can contribute to space-launches. The Mojave and Vanderberg ports are there, but they don't have a large ocean to their southeast for potentially ditching into. And you want that if you are going to use the earth's rotation as a boost to get to orbital velocity. Otherwise you need to burn lots more fuel and aim for circumpolar-ish orbits, and that's where the Pacific Ocean comes in handy.
But stay tuned. I'm sure lots of "cool shit" is coming California's way in the space
Re: Took 7 years but... (Score:5, Insightful)
Apparently this has been going on for decades and yet somehow California is still by far the richest state.
Re: Took 7 years but... (Score:2)
Yes, obviously the billionaire tax passed decades ago. Sergei Brin et al moved to Miami decades ago. I must be doing what you like to do: Create disinformation, deny reality. Clearly, nothing to see here.
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It's the richest state and it has the most homeless people. You'd think the 4th largest economy in the world would not have people living in the gutters and yet, we do. How very progressive of us.
Re: Took 7 years but... (Score:2)
You would think the red states whose bills we pay could feed those people instead of driving them out and having them come here, but if you did, you would be pathetically wrong.
We cannot feed the whole fucking country unless we get to stop sending Uncle Sam our hard earned money so he can give it to Israel and blow up fishermen with it
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The state doesn't pay, we the taxpayers pay. Federal income tax is paid by citizens and that's the money that's get redistributed around. So the state of California is itself not subsidizing any red states.
My parents lived and worked in California up until Covid. They paid taxes the entire time, etc. They choose to move to Idaho for retirement since the cost of living is a fraction there.
Your perspective sounds like you believe we're subsidizing them yet they've paid into the system their entire lives.
So it
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Also, regarding homeless people. Go search this phrase "how houston solved homelessness" and read the output.
Here are some links.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/h... [cbsnews.com]
https://www.governing.com/hous... [governing.com]
And so you don't think I'm being intellectually dishonest, here is a link that also says Houston may not be able to keep it going without funding.
https://kinder.rice.edu/urbane... [rice.edu]
So nothing is perfect, but if a large metro in Texas (that shit stain red state, right?) can manage this, they why oh why can't a blue cit
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So nothing is perfect, but if a large metro in Texas (that shit stain red state, right?) can manage this, they why oh why can't a blue city in a blue state that's the 4th largest economy do better?
Because people come here from all over the state specifically because we have better social services. Actually, people literally come to the county I live in because we have better social services. I know this is true because some of them have told me personally.
The official estimate is that somewhere around 20% of California's homeless came here after becoming homeless. But there's also a grey area where people moved here for work which didn't pan out and then became homeless as a result. They moved here b
Re: California gets a piece of all the offshoring (Score:4, Insightful)
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Oh, you mean the industry made great by *engineers*, that was taken over by Friendmanite* MBAs?
* ROI isn't just everything, it's the only thing
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Re: Took 7 years but... (Score:4, Interesting)
Oh no! Not the billionaires! What ever will we do without them?
Re: Took 7 years but... (Score:2)
You're right, what have billionaires ever done for anybody? Nothing! They just soak up more of that finite supply of cash each time the s&p rises. As soon as they move into the neighborhood, everybody around them gets poorer and poorer.
Re: Took 7 years but... (Score:2)
Weird, you don't usually say things which are literally true.
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Own things again?
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You need to hit the restroom, you're so full of bullshit.
Middle class where the money is? Owning a house is *exactly* the same as having money (I pay part 1 of my property taxes next month, and I do NOT have the money this house is allegedly worth)?
Meanwhile, your homework is to see how many billionaires, and how many billion and trillion dollar companies paid ANY income tax.
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Wealth has nothing to do with liquidity. Neither the paper billionaire or the paper millionaire.
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i assure you ...
Actually, your argument is based on a debunked myth.
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"Almost all empirical claims about high-income earners shirking their tax burden trace back to Piketty, Saez, and Zucman, and their push for a new “wealth tax” on unrealized capital gains from the stock and property holdings of the wealthy.
In short, Zucman both accentuates the tax rates paid by low-income earners and artificially suppresses the rates paid by the ultra-wealthy. When compared to conventional measures such as the CBO or al
Re: Paying higher taxes to make up for the shortfa (Score:2)
Lolol. They own 90% of everything, they get rich from regulatory capture to begin with, then they cry about being asked to pay 70% of taxes. And there's always some tool they wouldn't even bother to spit on to show their disdain there to defend them
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They own 90% of everything ...
The top 1% has about 30% of the wealth in the USA, they pay about 38% of the total income tax collected by the IRS. Note state and local income tax is not included.
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Did you know that income tax was originally temporary. Then they brought it back but only for the super rich. Now, we all fucking pay federal income taxes. Funny how that happened.
The exact same thing will happen with this "wealth tax" and it will go after everyone with a home. You think the state gives two fucks if you have to sell off assets to pay their taxes? They don't. They're broke and they have all these grand ideas about free healthcare for non-citizens.
So no, I will not be voting yes on a wealth t
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How many rich folks have fled NYC since the new mayor took office? To quote Dean Wormer "zero. point. zero."
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Also worth keeping in mind what exactly the "Billionaire Tax" aka Prop 40 is about.
This is a state ballot proposition that is once again put forth by the SEIU United Healthcare Workers West (UHW) union. Nominally this tax is meant to replace Medicaid dollars destined for California that the Trump administration is cutting, which might also cut healthcare staffing/union jobs.
I am as pro-union as the next 'libtard' but the SEIU UHW is merrily gambling the rest of the State's livelihood for their own narrow
Re: Took 7 years but... (Score:2)
Yeah, we should surround ourselves with billionaires and hope it trickles down on us all.
Re: Took 7 years but... (Score:2)
Indeed -- historically, taxes aimed at and promised only to affect the wealthy have a strange way of tricking down to the rest of us. Like federal income taxes, for example. Meanwhile, the national debt continues to rise. So the obvious solution is more taxes for the wealthy, which induces more spending, so those taxes then trickle down to the rest of us to make up for it, then you complain about how the rich aren't paying their fair share according to your own arbitrary definition of what fair means, so mo
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I had this crazy idea once -- what if we just balance the budget instead of adding more taxes? Crazy talk, right? Obviously, more taxes is the only sensible approach.
Republicans control all three branches of government. What’s stopping you?
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Republicans control all three branches of government. What’s stopping you?
Immigrants, Communists, Biden's economy, etc. There's always SOME excuse.
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What does that have to do with me?
Re: Took 7 years but... (Score:2)
The only people who don't balance the budget are Republicans, the only people you don't hold accountable are Republicans, here's your map clown
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Corruption to be perfectly honest.
Why didn't Obama usher in a utopia in 2008 when he had all of Congress? Right, because Democrats aren't much better. Instead of healthcare, they expanded the insurance policies and made insurance companies even more money. They literally took a Republican healthcare idea (romneycare out of Massachusetts) as their template.
Hopefully we can do better in the future.
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Fixing the current system is not desirable, it won't bring about the revolution, in fact it will prevent it, and is therefore undesirable.
In my experience, revolutionary fervor mostly arises from the "current system" being openly and vigilantly averse to being "fixed".
Many of us saw what was coming in the US 25 years ago and more. My voice - given that it's Canadian - meant nothing when after 9/11 happened I started referring to The Department of Fatherland Security. The incipient Fascism was obvious at that point, and even much farther back than that it was obvious to many folks where all this was headed.
Many Americans realized what was comi
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In my experience, revolutionary fervor mostly arises from the "current system" being openly and vigilantly averse to being "fixed".
It depends, for a revolutionary desiring to fix a social problem, yes. But there are also revolutionaries who seek to replace a system of government. To the latter, the current system is unacceptable regardless of how "fixable" it is. Hence the irredeemable concept in modern marxist leaning US academia.
The incipient Fascism ...
Has been in far greater display in Canada.
"Ontario judge orders RCMP and TD Bank to release records tied to freezing Freedom Convoy protester Evan Blackman’s bank accounts.
Government’s use of
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the politics of the far left makes more sense. It's part of destroying the current system so a replacement can be introduced, ie the revolution.
You say that with absolutely zero sense of irony.
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the politics of the far left makes more sense. It's part of destroying the current system so a replacement can be introduced, ie the revolution.
You say that with absolutely zero sense of irony.
Just a sense of history watching the far left work to that end since the 1960s/70s. First through violent direct action in those years, and then going underground after losing support with the end of the vietnam war and working from the inside. In particular in academia.
In reality, the current system is changeable without revolution, Perhaps you did not notice, but Trump was thrown out of office in 2020 and a supposed moderate democrat elected. Too bad he no longer was a moderate.
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Sure, reading a single book from an Argentine revolutionary will crystallize the goals of a diverse group of Americans.
"second-in-command, and played a pivotal role in the two-year guerrilla campaign which deposed the Batista regime [Cuban Revolution]"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org]
"it became a reference for thousands of guerrilla fighters in various countries around the world. The book draws upon Guevara's personal experience as a guerrilla soldier during the Cuban Revolution, generalizing for readers who would undertake guerrilla warfare in their own countries. The book identifies reasons and prerequisites for, and
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Is there anything wrong with learning about Marx or Guevara?
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There is for people like drnb happy with an oppressive status quo who don't want it threatened
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There is for people like drnb happy with an oppressive status quo who don't want it threatened
Trump was kicked out of office in 2020, a moderate democrat chosen to replace him. Too bad he wasn't really a moderate anymore.
As bad as you IMAGINE things in the USA today, things are far worse under folks like Che. Perhaps you could speak to some Cuban and Venezuelan immigrants and learn the truth of their revolutions.
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Because socialists never oppressed anybody. All those people in the gulag were just counter-revolutionaries. Everybody knows that individual liberties mean somebody, somewhere, might profit off of something, which is oppressive.
But seriously, a government wanting to get rid of cyclosporiasis isn't what I consider to be oppressive. Don't worry, nobody is coming for your scat porn collection.
Re: Buy the book not the t-shirt ... (Score:2)
The government doesn't even want to inspect lettuce, stupid maggot.
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Is there anything wrong with learning about Marx or Guevara?
Absolutely nothing wrong in studying them. The problem is in implementing some of Che's ideas. For example bringing death and misery to people who are content with a current government, who do not desire his revolution. And no he was not referring to the wealthy, he was specifically referring to peasants who were content and not being abused. In his teachings it was the revolutionaries duty to attack military and police in such a content area to create an atmosphere of reprisals and overreactions that would
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Learning about? No not at all. Knowledge is power and if you a don't have the knowledge, you'll miss the wool being pulled right over your eyes.
Buying into the propaganda, hook, line and sinker? Now that's the problem. I hope they don't forget to teach that every attempt at communism has failed spectacularly. I get it, they just don't do it right but next time will be different, right?
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I'd rather expose them, point out their endgame is not universal healthcare. That's just the pretext of the day used to acquire power. Their goal is radical political revolution, and they are honestly admitting that at the m
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Holy crap you are showing the desperation of somebody who is losing their argument.
Yes the DSA talks about ranked choice voting and increasing the size of the house and the Supreme Court and reducing the senate's power and so on. But these are all so moderates and proportional representation have a chance. It is not "marxist" in any way whatsoever, in fact it is the opposite.
I do fear the DSA, if the win, and feel they will still be preferred over extreme-right candidates, will suddenly have amnesia and for
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Holy crap you are showing the desperation of somebody who is losing their argument.
Nope. Your goal post of engaging with the far left is your goal post. My goal post is different, exposing the far left.
Yes the DSA talks about ranked choice voting and increasing the size of the house and the Supreme Court and reducing the senate's power and so on.
No. They also talk of eliminating the Senate. Of making the House supreme and the Supreme Court of President appointed by the House. A very soviet style of governance.
But these are all so moderates ...
There are fewer moderates today, We haven't seen the radicals moving from the Ivory Towers to the real world to this degree since the 1960s/70s. We have not such an acceptance, rationalization, of political violence since then
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If you want to "expose the far left" don't make yourself look stupid by complaining about things that are not "far left" in any way what so ever. In your last paragraph you seem to be sort of getting it. The quoted things are to appeal to intellectuals, as they would make the government more representative of the people and reduce the power of extremists. They are not "marxism" and I think that point will become painfully clear if they become the extremists, they will then pretend they never heard of such i
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It's so easy to reduce others' intentions to suit your pet theory
Its not my pet theory, its their stated goal.
Just because you can't imagine a working universal healthcare system within America ...
I can imagine numerous such ways, none of which requires removing the Senate and making the Supreme Court and President subordinate to the House as the DSA, the House a one party entity. Again, you conflate a pretext for a vote with the long term goal of a group. doesn't mean that everyone who does has some ulterior motive. There are people that want everyone to have access to healthcare without a "radical political revolution".
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And yet people have not fled the state and it's still the 4th largest economy in the world. California is big on worker protections while Texas is removing them. https://www.texastribune.org/2... [texastribune.org]
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Why can't the 4th largest economy in the world solve the homeless problem? We have people living in the actual gutter but we're the 4th largest economy in the world. Seems strange, doesn't it. We also have a supermajority in the state house and the governor all being one party and they still can't help these people. Sounds very progressive.
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California get a lot more than just those things "simply through geography". It's not clear what your point is. The united states as a whole became a superpower "simply through geography" (i.e. massive river network, ...
Thank you for supporting my point. California is the modern comparison to that 18th and 19th century river network. Today, profiteering off the outsourcing of manufacturing to Asia.
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So you still don't get it, or your "point" was so poorly described that it's not possible to understand what you mean. Bravo.
No, you're just missing the point from above that various historically important industries of California are in decline. Aerospace, tech, film, etc.
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Reasoning with MAGA is like talking the pope out of being Catholic.
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Or talking Catholics out of supporting child molestation
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We became a superpower because all the other superpowers were pretty much leveled in world war 2. Ours wasn't. While they rebuilt, we got the dollar as the petro reserve and we exported our culture to the world. It was all part of our soft-power push. Pretty sure we likely loaned them the money to rebuild as well and then made a fortune off that. It's good to be the only 1st world country with infrastructure.
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Right-wingers have been loudly cheering the inevitable economic downfall of California for years as its economy continues to grow. It must be so infuriating to them that Commiefornia just keeps getting richer.
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Yeah, homeless people literally shit on the Hollywood walk of fame. Great place.
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California won’t gargle his sack.
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