Trump Creates a Space Academy and Honors the Artemis Astronauts (houstonpublicmedia.org) 137
President Trump awarded the four-member Artemis II crew the Congressional Space Medal of Honor and signed an executive order directing the creation of a new U.S. Space Academy. The proposed academy would train engineers, scientists, technicians, operators, and astronauts for NASA, the Space Force, and the commercial space industry. Houston Public Media reports: The Artemis II crew -- NASA's Reid Wiseman, Victor Glover, Christina Koch, and the Canadian Space Agency's Jeremy Hansen -- retraced history as they flew around the moon and back in April, the first time humans have been in lunar territory since the 1970s. He had previously hosted the crew members at the White House following their mission and called them during the mission while the crew was tens of thousands of miles away. "The one thing that really sticks out to us [from that call] is you said how proud you are and how proud our nation is for the job that we've just accomplished," Wiseman said during Friday's ceremony. "And for us, that is what we set out to do. We wanted to inspire this nation to learn."
During the ceremony, Trump also signed an executive order to create the "United States Space Academy." Under the order, a Presidential Commission on the U.S. Space Academy has 120 days to create a report with guidelines for the U.S. Space Academy. The Commission will include NASA Administrator Jared Isaacman as its Chair, as well as other NASA and space officials. Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth, Trump's Chief of Staff Susie Wiles, and Michael Kratsios, assistant to the president for science and technology. In effect, it allows the Trump Administration to build the U.S. Space Academy to its liking. "It will serve both the United States Space Force as well as NASA and the civilian spaceflight industry," Trump said. "And it will attract, train, graduate the very best that our nation and our nation really has to offer." As for where the academy will be located, Trump said he was "going to be choosing a location very shortly."
During the ceremony, Trump also signed an executive order to create the "United States Space Academy." Under the order, a Presidential Commission on the U.S. Space Academy has 120 days to create a report with guidelines for the U.S. Space Academy. The Commission will include NASA Administrator Jared Isaacman as its Chair, as well as other NASA and space officials. Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth, Trump's Chief of Staff Susie Wiles, and Michael Kratsios, assistant to the president for science and technology. In effect, it allows the Trump Administration to build the U.S. Space Academy to its liking. "It will serve both the United States Space Force as well as NASA and the civilian spaceflight industry," Trump said. "And it will attract, train, graduate the very best that our nation and our nation really has to offer." As for where the academy will be located, Trump said he was "going to be choosing a location very shortly."
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Facilitating the spread of deadly illnesses cuts down on vulnerable people who may be collecting social security benefits, medicare or otherwise. Killing them is his way of cutting expenses, and thus, the deficit. All part of project 2025.
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I thought Trump wanted to pay down the deficit? Everything he does seems to cost money. Where are his ideas to save money without killing people or spreading illness?
It's not his money he's spending, so he doesn't care.
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Is this good enough? [theguardian.com]
TL/DR: The USA will get 'majority' control of 65 billion barrels of oil in Venezuela. As in not paying for it. So, Venezuelan oil does indeed seem to be "quite cheap now."
Venezuela does get some private investment and tax revenue from all of this. By handing over 65 billion barrels of oil.
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What idiot told you majority means all? 55/45 is a majority, dumbass.
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What idiot told you majority means all? 55/45 is a majority, dumbass.
I apologize. Nobody said majority means 'all' -- in particular, not me. But I admit I misspoke about Venezuela "handing over 65 million barrels of oil." Nor is any of it apparently at no cost.
Nevertheless, Donald Trump's own media post was confusing. He said his subordinates “secured majority U.S. control of more than 65 BILLION BARRELS of proven Oil Reserves in Venezuela, at no cost to the American Taxpayer.”
The text of the agreement is still not released, but what we know is that the USA gets
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Not to mention you're on the hook for developing all of the production which doesn't happen overnight.
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The USA. As in i get free gasoline? Or as in a company gets it to process and then uses prevailing market rates to charge me?
Iâ(TM)m skeptical of any plan that doesn't clearly spell out how it affects tax payers.
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I'm skeptical too, and was apparently a bit confused. But I tried to clarify things above, with my reply to ToasterMonkey.
The written version of the deal is still not released, so we only have sources like Trump's media posts and media reactions to them. Perhaps we'll get a better understanding soon.
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felon/rapist/pedophile/narcissist/war monger/economy killer and all around horrible human being.
You forgot business fraud. [wikipedia.org]
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This is something to keep his name in the news because he's mad about not being able to babble at the 9/11 ceremony. https://newrepublic.com/post/2... [newrepublic.com]
Create some new fancy medals for yourself to award people. Just like his hero Kim Jong Un.
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Space version of US Merchant Marine Academy (Score:2)
Actually it's quite rational hatred. The man is a pig.
Which is something separate from Astronauts deserve to be honored.
And something separate from we could use formalized training for the increasingly important and increasingly commercialized space industry. Note that sounds remarkably similar to the United States Merchant Marine Academy:
"The United States Merchant Marine Academy is a federal service academy that educates and graduates leaders of exemplary character who are committed to serve the national security, marine transportation, and economic ne
Re: Space version of US Merchant Marine Academy (Score:2)
With 95 percent of the world's products transported over water, these leaders are vital to the effective operation of our merchant fleet for both commercial and military transport in peace and war.
What you have there is a really good argument for seeding your commercial shipping industry with reserve naval officers in case of widespread war which requires commercial fleets to aide the war effort. Or natural disasters, etc.
THAT is strategic as fuck, badass, and in absolutely no way justifies the existence of any of the other service academies. All of the other ones are vestigial limbs. It's like if some of us had tails. Would I cut it off, hell no. Is it good for something, sure I mean we all need goo
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These commercial entities will also have to deal with potential military conflict. The parallels between space and maritime are numerous. The only issue is that we are at an extremely early stage, however planning for the integrated commercial/military future and having a training pipeline for this role is something useful.
Regarding Annapolis, you m
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When you say people are poisoning the blood of our country it does sort of color you a shade of evil that it's hard to come back from by doing things like questioning our constitution's plain text birthright citizenship guarantee, calling people animals, garbage, and making up stories about them eating cats and dogs for literally no reason other than bigotry and hatred.
Then going from barking about the debt and foreign intervention to ... more debt and foreign intervention, trying to build himself monuments. Why should I take him at his word?
He is legit the most fucked up president we have ever had, so everything looks like TDS. Maybe if you made a good faith effort to balance the budget or actually lower federal spending.. instead of creating another fucking service academy?? For the weird branch of the military he created ... which is still mostly civilians.
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It's funny how liberals forget we have a deficit until a Republican wants to do something. For context: the stuff that libs seem to hate, defense spending, is about 13% of the federal budget. Entitlement programs (which don't work and keep people in poverty) account for roughly half the federal budget. To make matters worse, there is at least an $88 Trillion unfunded liability (money owed we don't have) for entitlements in the future; defense has no unfunded mandates.
If you think saving money matters, then
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It's funny how liberals forget we have a deficit until a Republican wants to do something.
Dude they're all bad with money, only one camp increases spending while cutting revenue while crying the loudest about the deficit. Hypocritical isn't a strong enough word for it. Do something, like what, you've tried spending more paying less and crying about it, there's literally nothing else in the Republican playbook. What else can you try? Take candy from a baby, buy a new boat with the "savings"?
For context: the stuff that libs seem to hate, defense spending, is about 13% of the federal budget. Entitlement programs (which don't work and keep people in poverty) account for roughly half the federal budget.
Military spending is half our discretionary spending, and discretionary spending is exactly the first place
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Now how in the hell does Social Security, Medicaid and Medicare keep people in poverty, because those are 80% of entitlement spending. When healthcare costs drain your retirement, what is your plan B, what's the backstop? How does fucking you over help ME? I mean that's not seriously a question _I_ ask, because I literally do not see how hanging you out to dry helps me, because SOMEONE is going to pay for your ER visit and put you up in a old folks home, and we're not pulling an Old Yeller on you.
Funny story, this is exactly the problem I'm thinking of. Health care costs have been driven up by ORDERS OF MAGNITUDE faster than inflation, and almost all of that is administration and management. Getting a blood draw is 5% real costs, 10% labor, and 85% red tape. Congrats, that should have been $30 and now you're out $200.
Medicare and Medicaid are how we smuggled bureaucracy into everyone's health care. Rather than letting states run their own health care, we created massive federal apparatuses that add
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Or, maybe, just maybe, Orange Man is in fact quite bad and virtue signally, self-honorifc pageantry that has no real impact on anyone's lives hardly makes up for the lasting economic, displomatic and cultural damage him and his admin have wrought on the public and in fact the world.
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The real TDS is thinking any criticism of this pack of kakistocric ghouls is just "TDS". It's Trump-Derangement-Derangement-Syndrome and you've got a terminal case.
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Name something that he did that has improved your life or the country?
Are grocery prices cheaper?
Is the cost of living lower?
Is gasoline cheaper?
Are your taxes lower?
Did your wages increase?
Did your taxes decrease?
Are your utility bills cheaper?
Do you have health insurance?
If you have insurance did the costs decrease?
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Name something that he did that has improved your life or the country?
Are grocery prices cheaper? Is the cost of living lower? Is gasoline cheaper? Are your taxes lower? Did your wages increase? Did your taxes decrease? Are your utility bills cheaper? Do you have health insurance? If you have insurance did the costs decrease?
Lower or decreasing compared to what we want or compared to what Biden and his minions running things behind the scenes were creating. That would be not lower compared to the former and lower compared to the latter.
Some choices are negative/negative, small inflation vs large inflation for example.
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You forgot: :D
- do you have an EV
- do you have solar panels
Or if one would be cynic: can you afford to have kids?
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And there it is in a nutshell. You’re huddled around a burning trash can for warmth while muttering “at least the libs are suffering too”.
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Nope. Everything, literally everything Trump does is a bad idea and badly executed. There is nothing he does well these days. He used to be at least a good scam artists, and he got away with raping children for a long time, but even those skills seem to be not working so well anymore.
Sure, the cultists think he will herald a golden age, but one look at what is actually going on reveals that he cannot even get basic things right. Kakistocracy at its best.
Well, lets be fair. Trump is an excellent example how you can utterly ruin a prosperous nation in just a few years and how stupid and disconnected the MAGAs are. So he and his incapable and repulsive followers can at least serve as a good story for the history books how it can all go wrong.
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That is the "Trump Deficit", not the US one. I think filling his coffers is about the only thing he does that seems to actually work to a degree. Kakistocracy at work.
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Kakistocracy at work.
Met my learn a new word quota for the day, thanks. :-)
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You are welcome! It is a nice word, even if a world where it is quite relevant is not.
So this is pidley shit compared to the tax cuts (Score:3)
We elected the king of debt to be president because he promised to reduce that and we elected a billionaire rapist pedophile because he promised to protect us.
Honestly at this point if I wasn't being dragged down with the rest of them I would be ha
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Think about that a quarter of the debt is because of trump.
From US national debt tops $40 trillion: These four charts offer more context [kcra.com] and U.S. National Debt by President [us-debt-clock.com] (2nd link has more complete data and history):
National debt increases under recent presidents:
- Donald Trump (5.5y): $11.64T - with 2.5 more years remaining
- Joe Biden (4y): $8.45T
- Barack Obama (8y): $9.32T
- George W. Bush (8y): $4.91T
- Bill Clinton (4y): $1.54T
- George H.W. Bush (4y): $1.33T
- Ronald Reagan (8y): $1.85T
- (Everyone else is way below $1T each and two even lowered the debt.)
If the current U.S. debt is now about $40T, then Trump is responsible for about 29%, Biden: 21%, Obama: 23%, Bush (W): 12%, Clinton: 4%, Bush (HW): 3%, Reagan: 5%. Of these listed, Republican presidents are responsible for about 49.3% and Democrat presidents, 48.2%.
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Throwing stuff to see what sticks (Score:2)
At this point the YOB is apparently planning to throw so much "stuff" at everything that some of it will stick to something after he's gone.
New joke in the "just gawd" genre? A "just historian" would not bother to report on all the YOB's follies, but of course that's not how history works. First of all the historian has to report the historical facts, no matter how stupid or embarrassing or worse. Even that part is difficult, most recently because there are now too many facts to report, but the really diffi
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No it doesn't. ICE's budget has tripled under Trump to $30 billion a year.
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Your link is to the Washington Times, a conservative paper founded in 1982 by Reverend Sun Myung Moon (of the Moonies.) It's a good thing I opened it in an incognito browser, because the browser alerted immediately of suspicious traffic from the site. Others please note.
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Your link is to the Washington Times, a conservative paper founded in 1982 by Reverend Sun Myung Moon (of the Moonies.)
Fairly irrelevant. What is more relevant is what is their track record for honest reporting. Not who one of the founder that's been dead for decades was.
It's a good thing I opened it in an incognito browser, because the browser alerted immediately of suspicious traffic from the site. Others please note.
If accurate, that's interesting. But its also something that's largely common to both ends of the political spectrum. Matter of fact some the organizations that are the most famous for profiling you, targetting you, selling you, are organization whose founders and staff are overwhelmingly liberal.
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Fairly irrelevant. What is more relevant is what is their track record for honest reporting. Not who one of the founder that's been dead for decades was.
Their track record is terrible and it's owned by a cult. ... but you'd probably call that a bonus huh.
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Fairly irrelevant. What is more relevant is what is their track record for honest reporting. Not who one of the founder that's been dead for decades was.
Their track record is terrible and it's owned by a cult. ... but you'd probably call that a bonus huh.
Not at all, I judge by fairness of the stories. Rather than your judge things by the politics. Here's a clue: Even IF a source is poltical, it is valuable. Political sites will tell the truth when it happens to align coincidentally. So you have to listen to left, right, and center to discover the truth. Listen to their arguments for, and sometimes more importantly their arguments against, the rebuttals.
Judging a site by whether it aligns with you or not is not a search for the truth, its a search for val
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It takes more time to chase down the truth through all the obfuscation, misdirection, and bad-faith bullshit, than there is time in the day until they drop the next bit of bullshit.
It's an old game.
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Political sites don't tell you the truth ...
Complete ignorance on your part. They absolutely tell the truth when the truth coincidentally aligns with their politics. And they will absolutely lie when it does not, and that includes that sites whose politics agree with yours. In other words, your team will lie to you when convenient, the other team will tell you the truth when convenient. Hence you have to listen to all and evaluate their arguments, pro and con, on your own. That is the very old game.
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That's the cherry picking I was talking about in the first sentence...that you clearly didn't get to the end of. The incredible irony of cherry picking part of the first sentence out of 3 paragraphs of a comment with the words "cherry picking" in it is just too incredible for words.
Actually your cherry picking argument is a subset of what I am saying. It has the erroneous assumption of a fragment of the truth, when in reality any side can share the complete truth. If you had comprehended what I wrote you would have noticed that I said no site, aligned with you personally or not, can be trusted or dismissed out of hand. They all lie, all tell the truth, as the truth coincidentally aligns with politics. Hence having to listen to all. Plus there is the entire notion that sometimes the be
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> Repatriations are a major cause for lower rental prices.
Similar rent drop in Canada. So no, not really.
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Rentals follow housing prices which are moving because of lower demand and higher mortgage rates.
That's why it's playing out over the whole country. Dumbass.
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Then why are we paying more for everything? Debt is at a new high, the cost of debt is higher, groceries are high, gas is high. When was the last time you took your family out for lunch? How could removing workers even help the economy? I don't think this was thought through all the way.
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No, it means you're going to wait longer and pay more for work that depended on undocumented workers. Which means you will buy less. I think you really do not understand that the availability of affordable labor creates whole markets for things that wouldn't otherwise exist.
For example, if you remove all the highschool kids from an town, it does not mean lawn care professionals claw back jobs and higher pay for mowing lawns over the summer, it means a bunch of consumers exit the market for lawn mowing entir
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We have official confirmation that there are real Space Cadets in the Command chain of the US Military.
Get rich, quick, or plausible? (Score:4, Insightful)
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I came here to promote the idea it would be Online via Grand Canyon University, but you beat me to essentially the same point.
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A bare minimum for any 2028 candidate to get my vote is a promise to tear his name off of everything, knock down all statues he's put up and ripping apart and melting every bit of tacky gold decoration he has plastered the people's house with down to ore that can be used to plate DIMM pins again.
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I call it necessary basic infrastructure which is something only Democrats seem capable of doing.
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Not worth the money to take down the swastikas in Germany?
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Because I'm fucking with ya numbnuts.
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I am not sure this will even work as get-rich-quick. It will certainly do nothing else for the foreseeable future.
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Another opportunity for Trump to put his name on something.
After the revolution he will be punished with "damnatio memoriae".
In the Greek city-states (poleis), being remembered through public inscriptions, family lineages, and civic rolls was the ultimate civic honor.
Erasing a name was a form of political death.
Chiseling and Smashed Inscriptions: If a politician or general fell into deep disgrace or committed treason, the city assembly would order stone carvers to physically scratch, gouge, or chisel their
war on higher education (Score:2)
Where are these people educated now? MIT, CalTech, various UC, GA Tech, UT, other UT, etc. How can he reduce the influence of these institutions?
The space cadet core (Score:2)
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Graduation test will be the ability to pass the basic cognitive function test twice! Perfect qualification for colonizing Mars togetehr with the space-NAZI.
In a small change, (Score:3)
The four astronauts will now be known as Reid Wiseman, Victor Glover, Christina Koch, and Jeremy America.
In other NASA news, the new Artemis lunar lander, currently in development, will be powered not by dimethylhydrazine, but by steam.
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I get Trump's order is very much aimed at the NASA and the US (and probably getting his name onto it somehow), so can give that a pass, but the astronauts had an opportunity to rise above all that partisanship and slip in a message of much needed global unity, yet failed to do so. There are precious few institutions left in the world that can at least try and claim to be at least somewhat above / outside the direct influence of politics, and it looks like we're about to lose another one. Quite possibly for good once the ISS is finally decommissioned.
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Indeed. Some tasks are too large unless almost everybody is aboard. Obviously, the cultist defectives do not want to collaborate with anybody.
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yeah fuck the thing that allows me the freedom to be an anonymous fuck-sock online without having to worry about where my next meal is coming from
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Meanwhile Trump supporters on X and on this very website were calling Victor Glover a "DEI astronaut".
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I thought they were in the last stages of perfecting the hot-air drive? That way, the orange felon could drive all of space exploration by himself! Just supply some teenagers to be raped by him now and then.
This could be a good idea (Score:3)
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Indeed. Funny how that goes.
Further live reporting from the ceremony (Score:2)
The great orator replied, "Our dame? Big plans. 'Ar dame's gonna the moon and then Our eye on land, show Our Anne what for."
The room was silent, but the good mood was hardly diminished.
East Palestine, OH (Score:2)
Put it in East Palestine, OH. No one will notice another train wreck.
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Back in the day, they used to call East Palestine The West Bank
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And before that, Judaea and Samaria. Most people think the Bellum Judaicum was an Enigma album.
Donald Potter? (Score:2)
Just waved his magical wang and said "Artemisa Educatum" and the Space Cadet Academy appeared from thin air?
Kinda hard to take seriously, same as Musk "going to Mars".
Any day now.
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Molluscum contagiosum!!!
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It's not as easy as Democrats stealing an election.
I'm always amazed when those idiotic incompetent Democrats steal elections run by the Republican right under their noses without enough evidence left behind for a lawsuit proving it before a Republican appointed judge. Almost like they are STILL smarter and more talented than the Republicans and therefore more capable of running the country.
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You can't actively tear down academia and scientific institutions and simultaneously advance in the space sector. You can't burn the economy to the ground and launch a lunar mission.
Space is difficult, and space is expensive. You need smart, educated, driven people and enough economic productivity to support them.
On the other hand, if you're trying to steal some of the glory of an existing institution without worrying whether it will even be able to launch a firework a decade from now without a fatal accident on the launch pad... yeah, go ahead. "Trump Science Academy" it is.
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Yes, in the real world that is a hard fact. But the MAGAs and evangelicals (which are apparently mostly the same people) are not living in the real world. They think they can be the best at everything and at the same time ignore Science where it is inconvenient such as telling them they are dead wrong on things. I mean, they even things utterly dumb things like that tariffs are paid by the exporter, a thing were a 30 second web-search and the ability to read clears things up completely.
Hence they will continue to try the impossible, because they lack the mental skills to see it is impossible. Think of the COVID deniers that kept denying right up to the moment it killed them. That is pretty mich the model these defectives are using to deal with reality.
Now, the challenge for the rest of the country is to keep these about 33% utterly deranged people under control. That means the rest has to be united in what they want. Some small things are happening like farmers finding out that voting to have their harvest helpers deported and have their primary source of fertilizer attacked in a trade war are maybe a bit of a problem and that maybe they actually need to think before they vote. But these effects may not be enough. The alternative to keeping the cult out of power is total decline into irrelevancy and poverty.
On the plus side, Europe, Canada, Australia and some others welcome well-educated, smart and capable immigrants from the US disaster area. Others need not apply, sorry.
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>the challenge for the rest of the country is to keep these about 33% utterly deranged people under control.
They're strong because they were tolerated. They came out from under their rocks and were not immediately chased back under them. They coordinated. They kept pushing and every time someone tried to be 'reasonable' instead of recognizing the pattern and putting a stop to it, they advanced.
They're not going to give up that perceived advantage peacefully. The ones in office will do everything the
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Sad as that is, I agree. I am not calling for violent suppression or anything like that, but they were intellectually tolerated and their deranged views and denial of reality and Science were seen as valid stances and they were not called out on it. And now a very high price for that failure of the rest of the population has come due.
As much as it's against current politics... (Score:2)
Make San Francisco happen. People will remember that you did a century later like FDR is associated with Golden Gate bridge, regardless of details at the time.
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...and name it Starfleet Academy?
So like the Trump University? (Score:3)
I think the lawsuits are still running for that scam.
Space Medal for a space Uber ride? (Score:2)
This only cheapens the medal.
There was little significant risk. Nothing like Shepherd, Glenn(Atlas was unreliable), Armstrong & Aldrin or Young & Crippen.
did he give himself a space medal too? (Score:3)
that'd be right on brand for him, he loves begging for (and taking) awards he didn't earn
Star Trek Academy is Founded! (Score:1)
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Goofus forms a partnership with the University of Phoenix, burns two billion on a giant faux-gold plaque of his name, then rants about wokeness when nobody sane enrolls.
Five points if you can spot the difference.