Dyson Made a Camera-Equipped Toothbrush That Flosses For You (theverge.com) 108
Dyson is entering oral care with the $499 CameraJet, a smart toothbrush that uses a tiny camera and on-device AI to detect gaps between teeth and automatically blast them with mouthwash while you brush. Regular toothpaste and mouthwash will work with the CameraJet, but Dyson plans to sell its own non- or low-foaming formulas designed to give the toothbrush's camera a clearer view inside your mouth. The Verge reports: Just below the brush head is a tiny camera with a 100,000-pixel resolution and a strobing light. The toothbrush's AI analyzes 28 live images from the camera every second as part of a feature Dyson calls Gap Optical Targeting, without storing them on the device or sending them to the cloud. Within 100 milliseconds of a gap between your teeth being detected, the CameraJet emits a cone-shaped blast of mouthwash to clean out the space. Dyson uses a wider blast than what water flossers typically employ so it can effectively remove plaque with less pressure, making the CameraJet's flossing mechanism gentler on enamel and gums
The replaceable brush heads use a combination of softer outer bristles that safely clean along the gumline and stiffer inner bristles that are better at scrubbing away tooth stains. The brush head oscillates nearly 1,000 times each second while the angle of oscillation is constantly changing to improve the effectiveness of your brushing. Pricing on replacement brush heads isn't known, but each one features an RFID tag so the CameraJet can track usage and alert you when a replacement is needed every three months.
To ensure its mouthwash reservoir can effectively pump no matter how the CameraJet is held -- even upside down -- instead of sticking a tube into the reservoir, there's an air bladder inside the tank that slowly inflates to fill empty space, minimize air pockets, and maintain a constant pressure. An elaborate docking station recharges the toothbrush and can automatically fill its built-in 12.5ml mouthwash reservoir in just three seconds.
The replaceable brush heads use a combination of softer outer bristles that safely clean along the gumline and stiffer inner bristles that are better at scrubbing away tooth stains. The brush head oscillates nearly 1,000 times each second while the angle of oscillation is constantly changing to improve the effectiveness of your brushing. Pricing on replacement brush heads isn't known, but each one features an RFID tag so the CameraJet can track usage and alert you when a replacement is needed every three months.
To ensure its mouthwash reservoir can effectively pump no matter how the CameraJet is held -- even upside down -- instead of sticking a tube into the reservoir, there's an air bladder inside the tank that slowly inflates to fill empty space, minimize air pockets, and maintain a constant pressure. An elaborate docking station recharges the toothbrush and can automatically fill its built-in 12.5ml mouthwash reservoir in just three seconds.
I'd rather Flock did this (Score:5, Funny)
A camera that reports on people who don't floss. They could sell the research data to dentists.
Re:I'd rather Flock did this (Score:5, Informative)
A camera that reports on people who don't floss. They could sell the research data to dentists.
Bro, your dentist already knows. And is judging you every time you visit.
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Re: I'd rather Flock did this (Score:5, Funny)
Dentists? We don't need no stinking dentists.
I see the UK has entered the chat.
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Best joke of the day, but I was hoping for something about the misnomer. Floss refers to the stringy stuff and there's no string in this story?
But I might have asked my dentist about this if I'd seen the story before my last visit. Pert' shure I'll have forgotten all about it by the next time...
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We all already know. The answer to do you floss every day is always "errr..." followed by a blush.
Re: I'd rather Flock did this (Score:2)
A camera that reports on people who don't floss. They could sell the research data to dentists.
You mean insurance companies? "you did not flos on 25 August. No payback for dental care this year."
Even more brain-rot incomming (Score:3, Interesting)
Now we will get people that are incapable of brushing their teeth competently. Nice.
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Something tells me that the people that would benefit from this are not going to be buying a $500 toothbrush. They probably don't even own a "cheap" electric toothbrush because they long ago realized that it's a backdoor subscription for replacement heads.
Re:Even more brain-rot incomming (Score:4, Insightful)
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Yep, somewhere around that. I am usually paying $70 (Phillips Sonicare, keeps 1-2 years or so) and like $4 for a brush per month. Well worth the investment, but the more expensive ones just seem like gold-plating things.
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Because we don't already have that?
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Now we will get people that are incapable of brushing their teeth competently. Nice.
We already have this. Virtually no one flosses enough save for the few people with OCD.
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Indeed. Except without the "cute" factor.
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Yikes. I managed to forget about that one.
hope its a little easier to clean (Score:2)
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and repair...
Re: hope its a little easier to clean (Score:3)
This product adds a subscription model. Huge advancement for humankind.
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and repair...
I recently replaced the motor in a Dyson ball-style canister vacuum. Compatible motors are cheap and plentiful on Aliexpress. Other than the (many) deeply recessed screws which required long thin screwdrivers it was easy enough. Thing is built like a tank, but I consider that a good thing. I have not had to replace the battery in my cordless one yet, but I'm expecting to soon and that too looks simple, so no complaints here.
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maybe you have older models, recent ones were even sealed in epoxy like glue, so almost impossible to reach!
Dyson was awesome, but slowly they changed: https://dysonmedic.co.uk/from-... [dysonmedic.co.uk]
i didn't follow up the glued vacuum story, they may have changed their minds and stopped doing that, but blocking easy repairs means more sales (at least in short term, long term people will slowly migrate to other solutions)
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AI Equipped Toothbrush? (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:AI Equipped Toothbrush? (Score:4, Funny)
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Butt plugs are next...
You know those already exist, right? https://www.scriptbyai.com/but... [scriptbyai.com]
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Dyson ran out of good ideas some time ago. Their vacuum cleaners are still good, but overpriced. Even there, they copied the dust detector laser thing from Japanese manufacturers. The stopped making washing machines because they weren't profitable enough, and abandoned their car. Their snot canon, the weird headphones that filter air and blow it in your face, sending respiratory diseases in all directions, never gained much traction in the market.
I doubt these things work very well. Water flossers are in ge
Cameras everywhere! (Score:4, Funny)
I want a camera-equipped bidet, don't want to miss a spot...
Re: Cameras everywhere! (Score:2)
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Re: Cameras everywhere! (Score:2)
Here it is! (Score:3)
https://theonion.com/new-e-toi... [theonion.com]
Yay (Score:5, Insightful)
Name a massively overpriced product that is barely fit for purpose. Ding! It's a Dyson.
News flash! You don't need a $500 toothbrush with a camera and AI processing. You only need a 25 cent soft bristle tooth brush and a $4 pack of floss picks.
Wanna spend more for better results? Buy a WaterPik.
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- and how do I get there?
Re:Yay (Score:5, Informative)
25 cents, what decade are YOU stuck in ?
This one.
17 cents each.
https://www.walmart.com/ip/EQ-... [walmart.com]
Re:Yay (Score:5, Interesting)
Buy a WaterPik.
imo a water flosser is by far the best tool for oral hygiene. indispensable. however, i would avoid the waterpik. i bought this one on july 2020: https://www.amazon.es/dp/B073W... [amazon.es]
very nice, but just stopped working after 13 months. dead.
i then bought this "chinese knockoff" on august 2021: https://www.amazon.es/dp/B0877... [amazon.es]
it was 60% cheaper, not that fancy, but is capable of higher pressure and has been working flawlessly every day several times a day to this day, and going strong.
(tbf i had also bought a rechargable waterpik model for travel that still works, but it has obviously had far, far less use. https://www.amazon.es/dp/B073W... [amazon.es] it's also very low pressure and barely does the job, needing 2-3 refills per session and the water tank is impossible to completely drain, the whole design is just stupid, and the damn thing also cost a small fortune)
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They are pretty great though, right? All the flossing without having to jam your hands in your mouth. I'm prone to gingivitis, and it's a gum-saver.
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that's good to know. yeah, they're great, a revelation. first use feels a bit weird but you quickly get used to it, i crank mine all the way up.
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well, it does vibrate in my hand. you be the judge!
Re:Yay (Score:5, Insightful)
I've been told (by my dentist) that a water flosser (whatever brand) is better than not flossing ... but is still significantly worse than actually flossing. YMMV.
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i'm not a dentist, but indeed ymmv. flossing removes more plaque between teeth, but water flossing works where teeth meet the gums which can be hard to reach with mechanical floss, and using a pick for that could go wrong specially if you have sensitive gums. and sometimes you simply can't floss (because of braces, dentures, etc) which is my case (had to learn the hard way!). i simply don't let plaque build up: baring exceptions, i fast most of my time and have 2 sometimes 3 small meals in the span of 2-4 h
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I've been told to angle the tooth brush so that the bristles jam up underneath the gum line. Before I did that (and flossing) I had gum problems, now they're great.
Re: Yay (Score:2)
Proving the point that everyone is brushing wrong, you shouldn't brush immediately after meals as it damages the enamel.
Re: Yay (Score:2)
I found brushing with a Hydroxyapatite -containing toothpaste fixed my tooth sensitivity.
I think the best thing after a meal is to rinse out your mouth with water. You can brush later
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I think the best thing after a meal is to rinse out your mouth with water. You can brush later
well, that's actually one side effect of water flossing :-)
point taken though.
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The idea is to use both!! not one replacing the other!!
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I floss, then brush, and then use a Water Pik.
You can do both (flossing with dental floss and using pressurized water to remove debris) and in the order specified, removes the most plaque.
Re: Yay (Score:5, Funny)
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I have the battery one, works like a charm and is a lot smaller.
Though, really, between flossing, brushing and rinsing with diluted H2O2 (1:1), I have found that I don't really need to use the waterpik all that often.
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I would suggest someone buy an electric toothbrush long before they consider an electric flosser. They are far better at keeping your teeth clean. That said you don't need a $500 toothbrush. $50 maybe, and I'm not sure what it's like in the USA, but in Europe my health insurance company actually bought the electric toothbrush for me, so it was even cheaper than those 25c toothbrushes.
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I would suggest someone buy an electric toothbrush long before they consider an electric flosser. They are far better at keeping your teeth clean. That said you don't need a $500 toothbrush. $50 maybe, and I'm not sure what it's like in the USA, but in Europe my health insurance company actually bought the electric toothbrush for me, so it was even cheaper than those 25c toothbrushes.
After owning a couple relatively expensive rechargeable toothbrushes where replacing the soldered in batteries was onerous I eventually settled on one that runs on 2 AA cells. They are like $15 on Amazon and use the same brush heads as the $300 ones. No Bluetooth, but I manage. If I was so motivated I could use rechargeables in it too.
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The biggest problem is people who don't understand how Lithium batteries work. A typical lithium battery has a cycle life of around 300-500 deep cycles these days. The average $50 toothbrush lasts about 2 weeks on a single charge. That is ... 12-19 years life for your battery.
The problem is people who leave their toothbrushes permanently on charge, it's a quick way to destroy lithium batteries. My father and I got the same toothbrush at roughly the same time. His lasted only about 2 years before he complain
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The biggest problem is people who don't understand how Lithium batteries work.
I charge my phone every night too and they seem to last just fine. Most quality electronics these days have some smarts to optimize the life of lithium batteries. Probably toothbrushes too as my last one did last around 8 years. The days of having to obsess over the care and feeding of your batteries should be long gone by now, cheap Chinese junk excluded.
I can't think of anything more wasteful than using AA batteries.
Yes, you can.
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It's funny, I still have yet to need to replace the battery in my old e-series SoniCare. I still take that thing on vacation without a charger and it lasts at least a week. Though finding replacement heads has moved to an online-only affair.
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Imagine Apple buying Dyson.
John Ternus: "Dyson? Hmmm....."
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News flash! You don't need a $500 toothbrush with a camera and AI processing. You only need a 25 cent soft bristle tooth brush and a $4 pack of floss picks.
Need? There are lots of things you don't "need". But this seems like something that could legitimately improve my oral hygiene because -- like most people, I suspect -- I don't floss nearly as often as I should. Having it integrated into the brushing process would mean I do it 2-3 times per day, rather than once every few days. Is that worth $500? I guess it depends on how important $500 is to you. I'm not very price-sensitive and I am very lazy.
I'll wait until these have been available for a while
How lazy are we? (Score:2)
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There's no limit when it comes to oral hygiene. How many people do you know how floss daily?
100ms (Score:2)
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You're not holding it properly.
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the user should be a idiot, so he will floss slowly too, giving enough time
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It's an electric toothbrush. You're not supposed to rub it across you teeth back and forth. You're supposed to move it slowly from one tooth to the next. 100ms is more than fast enough.
It all makes sense now. (Score:2)
- even my tin foil hat is covered in foam.
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Probably doesn't work (Score:2)
At $500 though they must think it will work but I don't see how. I say that as somebody who uses a water pik. The ones that sit on your counter while you're using them work just fine because they are much larger and have a much larger
So much (Score:2)
So much stupid. So, so much.
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wait for the subscription ...
AI/camera powered what? (Score:2)
How about no? Does no work for you?
FLOSS + Sonicare (Score:3)
>"Dyson is entering oral care with the $499 CameraJet, a smart toothbrush that uses a tiny camera and on-device AI to detect gaps between teeth and automatically blast them with mouthwash"
$500 for a finicky device that does a poor job trying to replace what it takes pennies of money and under a minute to do with floss. No thanks.
>"The brush head oscillates nearly 1,000 times each second while the angle of oscillation is constantly changing to improve the effectiveness of your brushing"
Yeah, I have a $50 Sonicare that does that job just fine after I floss, thanks. And I can get low-priced replacement heads at Costco in multipacks that regularly go on sale...
Re: FLOSS + Sonicare (Score:2)
Sonicare are crap, I've been through 3 of them, the seal on the brush shaft fails every ..single...time, then water gets inside and smokes the internals. Gone to OralB and never looked back, they just work.
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My Sonicares last for several years each (been using them for decades). But I am also careful not to wet anything but the brush head. It is a common failure point to have water enter through the shaft.
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I'll reserve judgement (Score:1)
Lots of posts here bashing this product while I bet exactly none of them have tried using one yet.
No argument Dyson makes a lot of high-dollar products that just attempt to be a little better/different than the norm -- and won't impress people who are always looking only for the lowest cost solution.
But I have yet to really use anything Dyson branded I thought was a bad/dysfunctional product. I owned the orange Dyson ball vacuum cleaner, many years ago, when it had only existed for a short time. It was 4x-5
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AI + camera toothbrush? No thanks. Far too many ways for data to go awry.
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and won't impress people who are always looking only for the lowest cost solution.
Dyson very much doesn't impress for people who are also looking for high end solutions as well.
Sucking and blowing company (Score:3)
Es saugt und bläst der Heinzelmann, wo Mutti sonst nur saugen kann.
I will order one (Score:2)
As soon as they have a model with remote control. Please notify me!!
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are you sure you didn't meant "please deliver it to my home", as for sure you will be lazy enough to even order one, right?! :D
if you think this is nuts... (Score:2)
just wait till you see the upcoming Dyson bidet.
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Remember, when you look into the void in the form of social media on your phone while you shit, the void looks also into you
Skeptical, but I want this to work (Score:2)
I hate flossing. And yes, while I am skeptical, I will gladly part with $500 if this actually works.
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It works really well. I recommend it.
Dyson (Score:2)
Wake me when they make one of those huge Spheres that surrounds an entire solar system.
The replacement heads will cost only $100 each (Score:2)
But they'll last at least a month or two!
No (Score:2)
Flossing and mouth wash is not the same. Mouth wash has zero documented clinical effect and is in essence just a waste of time and money. Flossing works because of the mechanical contact - same as brushing. Therefore this product is completely, ludicrously stupid.
A 2 euro box of wooden toothpicks will do (Score:2)
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People with more money than sense, as the saying goes
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Same thought, beat me to it.
And just how many people do these idiots imagine will buy this? Hell, htat's about three visits to my dentist.
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just fine, thanks. Who needs this crap?
But we need instructions for toothpicks. AI robot flossing requires no instructions.
Oh HELL no! (Score:2)
Man, fuck all these cameras.
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Don't give them ideas!
We no longer need instructions for toothpicks. (Score:2)
I have an idea (Score:2)
Flossing with a dental bridge (Score:3)
Water-picking is not flossing (Score:2)
Okay ? (Score:2)
If you can't be bothered to spend the thirty seconds it takes to run some floss between your teeth
at the stupidly low cost of floss sticks or normal floss, then it's unlikely you're going to spend an
extra $500 ( plus the cost of replacing the heads periodically at Dyson prices ) to have an over-engineered
and very overpriced toothbrush do it either.
Save your money, buy a bag of floss sticks or just a roll of floss and quit being so lazy.