Private German Rocket Makes History, Reaches Orbit From European Soil (dw.com) 45
"No rocket had ever reached orbit from Western European soil — until today," reports Space.com.
DW.com reports that a Spectrum space rocket from German company Isar Aerospace launched today from the Arctic Norwegian spaceport at Andoya: "Germany has spaceflight capabilities," said the country's Ministry for Research, Technology and Space on X, praising a "milestone that impressively demonstrates our country's innovative strength and technical expertise". This was the German company's second attempt to launch the Spectrum rocket into space. The first attempt, which took place 18 months ago, was unsuccessful.
The Spectrum rocket is designed for small and medium-sized payloads. It carried five smal satellites and an in-flight technological experiment, the company said. According to Isar Aerospace, the launch was for "both the vehicle's qualification mission and its first flight carrying payload." The move is believed to bring Europe closer to being able to offer satellite flights from its own territory. Several countries voiced interest in the growing market of commercial space missions, including Britain and Sweden...
Isar is also working on the development of a second launch site, located in Canada. The company said that while the US launched 198 rockets last year, Europe's tally was just eight. Isar's goal is to produce some 40 rockets a year. Although the rocket is not yet ready for mass production, Isar has already received orders through 2028.
Today's launch webcast was produced in collaboration with NASASpaceflight, notes Space.com. And they note that Spectrum chief engineer Nikolaos Perakis says"This is just the beginning... I'm really looking forward to the next steps."
Reuters quotes this statemnt from Norway's minister of industry and commerce, Cecilie Myrseth. "The fact that we can now launch satellites from Andoeya strengthens Norwegian and European security in the turbulent times we live in."
DW.com reports that a Spectrum space rocket from German company Isar Aerospace launched today from the Arctic Norwegian spaceport at Andoya: "Germany has spaceflight capabilities," said the country's Ministry for Research, Technology and Space on X, praising a "milestone that impressively demonstrates our country's innovative strength and technical expertise". This was the German company's second attempt to launch the Spectrum rocket into space. The first attempt, which took place 18 months ago, was unsuccessful.
The Spectrum rocket is designed for small and medium-sized payloads. It carried five smal satellites and an in-flight technological experiment, the company said. According to Isar Aerospace, the launch was for "both the vehicle's qualification mission and its first flight carrying payload." The move is believed to bring Europe closer to being able to offer satellite flights from its own territory. Several countries voiced interest in the growing market of commercial space missions, including Britain and Sweden...
Isar is also working on the development of a second launch site, located in Canada. The company said that while the US launched 198 rockets last year, Europe's tally was just eight. Isar's goal is to produce some 40 rockets a year. Although the rocket is not yet ready for mass production, Isar has already received orders through 2028.
Today's launch webcast was produced in collaboration with NASASpaceflight, notes Space.com. And they note that Spectrum chief engineer Nikolaos Perakis says"This is just the beginning... I'm really looking forward to the next steps."
Reuters quotes this statemnt from Norway's minister of industry and commerce, Cecilie Myrseth. "The fact that we can now launch satellites from Andoeya strengthens Norwegian and European security in the turbulent times we live in."
Germans launch big rocket (Score:5, Insightful)
I'm glad I lived long enough for the Germans to launch a big rocket and hear the Norwegians say that it strengthens European security.
Re:Germans launch big rocket (Score:4, Informative)
"Once the rockets are up, who cares where they come down?
That's not my department!" says Wernher von Braun.
- Tom Lehrer
Re: Germans launch big rocket (Score:3)
Re: Germans launch big rocket (Score:1)
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V2?
Heh.
(Kudos for the appropriate username.)
Headline incorrect. This is not rocket science FFS (Score:2)
If I write a story saying "Greytree is the fastest 100m runner called Greytree" you cannot post a story with the headline "Greytree is the fastest 100m runner".
This is Journalism 101, not rocket science.
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The headline can remove "Western [Europe]" by swapping it for "private [Rocket]", both being separately a historical first.
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Lol. You mean the "retarded" Nazi German kid who taught the cool kids how to build rockets to send a man into space? *That* retarded kid?
Psst! He's been doing his own thing all along. You were just convenient helping hands.
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> And who did the Nazi retard learn to build rockets from, hmm? Retard.
And who did they did learn from? That would end up being China.
ba-dum tsh
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Re: Headline incorrect. This is not rocket science (Score:1)
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Hush, it's a "Yurup can has into space too" story, you're supposed to celebrate.
No, it's Western Europe can has space too.. The Russian launch site in Plesetsk, which is in Europe, has been launching since 1966.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/... [sciencedirect.com]
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If someone writes "No rocket had ever reached orbit from Western European soil" then you cannot just miss out qualifying words like "Western" to make a headline. If I write a story saying "Greytree is the fastest 100m runner called Greytree" you cannot post a story with the headline "Greytree is the fastest 100m runner". This is Journalism 101, not rocket science.
Soo.... you aren't the fastest 100m runner? 8^)
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Re:Headline incorrect. This is not rocket science (Score:4, Interesting)
It made history, and it launched from European soil.
That's news for Putin (Score:2)
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Russia does launch rockets from its soil. They use Baikonur, Kazakhstan, a country considered Central Asian.
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I meant space rockets.
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Russia is geographically in Asia but politically considered European.
to be accurate parts of Russia are geographically in Asia.
Russia does launch rockets from its soil. They use Baikonur, Kazakhstan, a country considered Central Asian.
Russia launches orbital missions from a number of sites, including Plesetsk, which is in Europe. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org]
spasiva but no spasiva (Score:2)
they have been trying for decades, but i wouldn't bet on russians having any desire to be considered part of europe at this point anymore.
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Not their choice.
A big deal of Russia is Europe. Just not "western Europe".
The distinction between east and west and Europe or not is not a question of politics, cold war or WWII aftermath.
It is geographic.
Just like USA has an east coast (cough cough), it also has a west coast. And somewhere in between, you can draw a vertical line and say: everything left from here is "west", and everything right is "east".
Everything west of the Ural mountains and the strait of Bosporus is: Europe.
Everything right of it: i
bratwurst did it yet again ... (Score:2)
What actually do you learn in schools?
believe it or not, some people actually learn to read properly in schools. then they have no issue understanding that the expression "politically considered" isn't referring to geography, and thus are able to have (potentially) meaningful conversations online with other people.
i know there are a few foreign concepts for you here. gotta take it step by step, don't be discouraged ...
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"politically considered" :P
And when and where was that term used
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it seems you're having trouble focusing attention to parse context in literally 2 one-liners, so i'll highlight it for you:
Russia is geographically in Asia but politically considered European.
they have been trying for decades, but i wouldn't bet on russians having any desire to be considered part of europe at this point anymore.
but let me guess ... you do not care?
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Well,
the point is that no one knows what you want to say.
The western part of Russia: is Europe.
The eastern part is: Asia.
So?
What is your farking point?
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what you want to say
nothing to you, really. efforts to have a coherent dialogue with you have shown to be pointless.
so keep crashing into other's conversations, misunderstanding what they say and calling them out as dumb while showing yourself to be so dumb as to probably not even realizing how dumb your interventions are, then trolling dumb nonsense endlessly in the futile attempt to save face and get some attention. dude, you're pathetic. i'm one of the very few people here to even bother replying to your dumb bullshit. enjo
Is there a contest? (Score:3)
What this is, is showing just how far rocketry has been reduced to practice, which is not a bad thing at all.
Modern Rocketry is nearly a century old, the operational process that the Germans brought to fruition in WW2 has been refined, but yeah, contemporary liquid fueled rocket engines are tweaks of the original. Tweaks of fuel types, gimbaling, pump capacity, and now we have to go to check boxing for "firsts".
Solid rocket boosters are also largely reduced to practice.
It's all good people, now a lot of groups can participate.
Re: Is there a contest? (Score:2)
This isn't a contest as far as I know. Well maybe it is for the checkbox people. With prizes for "firsts"
The commercialization of spaceflight IS a contest. Not sure what else to say, I thought people knew what was going on.
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This isn't a contest as far as I know. Well maybe it is for the checkbox people. With prizes for "firsts"
The commercialization of spaceflight IS a contest. Not sure what else to say, I thought people knew what was going on.
Whoosh.
Way to miss the point. My point, which is summarized concisely in the first paragraph in the story, to wit:
"No rocket had ever reached orbit from Western European soil — until today,"
Do we have data on how many rockets were launched on say Thursday mornings at 0710? By a team of Lithuanian "little people"?
It is painfully obvious they are check boxing when they go on to list more competition among the spaceworthy:
"The company said that while the US launched 198 rockets last year, Europe's tally was just eight"If it is as you say, a competition, then this company only has 197 more launches, think they'll make it?
Much more interesting at least to me, is the location of the launch. Above the Arctic Circle, good for circumpolar orbits - mostly the province of spy sats. But let's look a little deeper.
About 950 miles or 1529 Kilometers away from Greenland! Perhaps a little geopolitical shot across the bow to a rather unpopular president, who seems to have a weird rageboner to occupy Greenland?
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About 950 miles or 1529 Kilometers away from Greenland! Perhaps a little geopolitical shot across the bow to a rather unpopular president, who seems to have a weird rageboner to occupy Greenland?
Nope. As Greenland belongs politically to Europe.
We would not shoot rockets there.
And our cruise missiles, if we had to annihilate a carrier group pestering Greenlands: are not fired from land bases but Grippens and Typhoons.
The fighters have easy a strike range of 2k km and the missiles fly another 600km. Worst cas
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Of course there's a contest, you're just not meant to see it.
Do you think the space race of the mid-20th century was really about science? Launching humans into space and ultimately landing them on the moon accomplished three things:
1. Patriotic pride among the populace of the US and USSR
2. Dick waving by the US and USSR
3. Proof that there was so much confidence in the rockets built by the US and USSR that they'd put their "best and brightest" aboard them
If the space race had really been about science, the
Re:Is there a contest? (Score:5, Informative)
The important point is that the EU can now launch things into space from western Europe, it's home base if you like. Previously it was mostly French Guiana, on a different continent. For security reasons that wasn't ideal.
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Indeed. And that is why this is a big deal. The other part is the cost, which is pretty low, compared to what Europe had before.
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Indeed. And that is why this is a big deal. The other part is the cost, which is pretty low, compared to what Europe had before.
Did anyone give consideration to the fact that the launch site is above the arctic circle? Since no one will believe me, here's an easily digestible site that explains.
https://www.scienceabc.com/eye... [scienceabc.com].
High latitude launch sites have some serious disadvantages unless you are planning on circumpolar orbits, which means you are planning on launching spy satellites.
Those launch sites near the equator use the earth's rotation for a speed boost from the earth's rotation which has a significant boost in
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Isar Aerospace, a commercial company, is planning to launch from Kourou as well as Andoya. Germany has little to do with the Andoya launch site: Andoya is owned by the Norwegian government, with a small share owned by Kongsberg, a missile company.
Nobody's going to use Western Europe for launching rockets into any orbit other than polar ones: for most orbits, there is no path from any site in Western Europe that does not go over land for at least some of its launch trajectory. Spain comes closest, but even t
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In is a contest. It concerns economics and sovereignty. Europe has launched orbital rockets for ages but never from geographic Europe and that makes the launch-capability vulnerable as the US goes down the drains.
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In is a contest. It concerns economics and sovereignty. Europe has launched orbital rockets for ages but never from geographic Europe and that makes the launch-capability vulnerable as the US goes down the drains.
If this is an entry in a contest, give a dissertation on why it is above the arctic circle. Not much of a market for that.
first European rocked launch to 0rbit??? (Score:1)
what about Ariane Space? Isn't that a (western) European company? Or is the author of this piece being picky about WHERE the launch pad is located?