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Gemini Breached Three Outside Systems, and Claude-Using Researchers Breached OpenAI (hacktron.ai) 48

"Software security researchers used Anthropic's Claude AI platform to hack OpenAI's ChatGPT tool," reports CBS News.

Using Claude, "On July 25, 2026, we chained two critical vulnerabilities to compromise multiple OpenAI employees' ChatGPT accounts," write researchers at security platform Hacktron AI. "With these accounts, we could then access internal OpenAI repositories, and potentially many other connectors... Until two months ago, any user or OpenAI employee logging into OpenAI's own help forum could have had their ChatGPT and Codex accounts taken over. Since people can connect various services to Codex and ChatGPT, the scope of what we could theoretically access was huge, including GitHub, Slack and emails."

The exploit chain included Debian 12, which (with Debian 13) had not received a security-relevant backport for its image-processing pipeline, and Discourse's Docker image was based on Debian 12. Their announcement comes with an additional warning. "If you self-host Discourse, rebuild your installation now. Older Docker images may contain a vulnerable libheif dependency that permits code execution through an image upload."

And "To prove we had in fact gained the access we believed without allowing ourselves to learn any sensitive information, we used the employee's Codex to open a PR #1186742 in OpenAI's internal monorepo openai/openai."

Meanwhile, Friday Google disclosed the first known instance of its AI software Gemini breaking out of a testing environment and breaching three other companies, reports CNBC: The incident happened as part of a "capture-the-flag" security test run by Israeli startup Irregular, and Google's agents were never supposed to access the broader internet, but a bug in the testing environment made internet access available. The agents stopped their intrusion when they determined they had accessed real company systems, not just part of the testing environment, Google said.
More from NBC News: Google said it did not consider the unauthorized logins to rise to the level of misalignment, the AI industry term for software going rogue or not following instructions. Instead, the company said the intrusions resulted from mistaken identity, where Gemini thought it was operating within a test but was actually connected to the real internet. Google said the model corrected itself and the company believed the intrusions did not cause any damage....

Sydney Von Arx, CEO of Nightingale Collective, an organization focused on AI safety, questioned why Google did not disclose the intrusions sooner. "At this point I think it's clear we cannot expect companies to voluntarily come forward and publicly disclose when their agents go rogue, escape, and hack companies," she said. She also said she believed Google was too hasty to say that the incidents don't rise to the level of misalignment. "That's exactly what Anthropic said after their incidents," she said. Anthropic later said its "preliminary analysis was constrained due to our desire to disclose incidents in a timely manner."

Google said it investigated when they learned of the attacks from AI-focused cybersecurity company Irregular, then informed the affected organizations and told federal authorities, according to the article.
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Gemini Breached Three Outside Systems, and Claude-Using Researchers Breached OpenAI

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  • Move to the beat. (Score:2, Insightful)

    by Revek ( 133289 )
    This is some song and dance number designed to convince us these random word generators can actually think.
    • by AmiMoJo ( 196126 ) on Saturday September 19, 2026 @03:49AM (#66343368) Homepage Journal

      It doesn't matter if they can really think or not, if the output is good enough.

      Maybe the real story here is that despite having access to the most advanced AI models, these companies were unable to secure their own systems.

      • the company said the intrusions resulted from mistaken identity, where Gemini thought it was operating within a test but was actually connected to the real internet. Google said the model corrected itself

        This sentence is very clearly a PR communication designed to obscure the event of what actually happened.

      • Exactly. Most of us can recall an era where script kiddies had similar unreasonable success even if they had no actual skill or thinking behind the attacks. Just canned toolkits designed around known vulnerabilities, common password databases, understanding of common, bad security practices, and bundled up in easy to use harnesses.

        So whether it not an agent can actually "think" or is just putting together a potentially workable narrative of how hacks can happen and running it against real world targets do

      • AGI has the potential to be a Weapon of Mass Destruction more powerful than nuclear weapons. We're allowing corporations to develop these weapons with little oversight, and freely share the advances with anybody who's interested. If this was biology it would be in a level 4 bio-containment lab. What the hell are we doing?
        • by Kartu ( 1490911 )
          AGI was promised back in 2025.
          The openai boss, that zuckerberged commercial openai from a non-profit openai, was absolutely certain that AGI will be there in 2025, he had a very concrete plan with clear deliverables, dear investors!
          Oh, wait, and the Microsoft grip (major investor into openai zuckerberged by Altman from non-profit openai) on the company is supposed to be released... exactly when it achieves AGI.
          So now we are in 2026, and you want me to believe that out of these 2:
          1. The filthy fucks who
      • AGI will be a Weapon of Mass Destruction more powerful than Nuclear Weapons. We're encouraging corporations to develop it freely this with little or no oversight and share their progress with anybody who's interested. If this was biology it would be in a level 4 bio-containment lab. What the hell are we doing?
      • by Kartu ( 1490911 )
        The story here is that the folks that have promised a lot (AGI in 2025 anyone? Major breakthroughs in technology across the board anyone? Amazing new drugs (no, that cancer vaccine in the phase 3 trials has nothing to do with the LLMs) anyone?) are now creating waves of FUD to explain to investors why did they fail to deliver. Amodei, back in 2019, while at NON-PROFIT openai (that was not zuckerberged by him and those other lovely high moral folks), was telling the world that releasing GPT 2s weights to th
      • by CAIMLAS ( 41445 )

        You've apparently not worked in "developer heavy" companies before.

        Nobody gives a shit about operations, generally.

        • by Revek ( 133289 )
          I haven't. I just remember people buying crude images of monkeys for huge sums. Those same types are all agog at AI and I don't think their cognition has improved. At the end of it all the block chain is only good for keeping records and that is about it. LLM's will be tools that we use but a AGI or MI as the old scifi books called it is unlikely since the intelligence will be constrained down to our crude level.
    • This is some song and dance number designed to convince us these random word generators can actually think.

      It's not that they can think. It's that they can compose commands or code to execute as easily as they can tell you that your idea is one of the most brilliant and amazing things that they have ever heard. :-)

    • We need to define what "thinking" is before saying they can't. What they do closely resembles thinking at a surface level. There are obvious differences but nailing them down isn't so easy. It seems to me what they do may be an approximation of some aspects of what we do.
  • Why are these people not stopped? Any hacker with manual tools would find themselves in prison.

    That they are doing this crap only to create the illusion of how powerful their toys are is also clear.

    • by gtall ( 79522 ) on Saturday September 19, 2026 @06:19AM (#66343424)

      "Why are these people not stopped?" By whom? The alleged Justice Dept. which has consumed itself and lost all its best attorneys? Or the alleged administration who will look the other way for a bit of coin under the table? State laws cannot be strong enough so State AGs have little with which to fight.

      "That they are doing this crap only to create the illusion of how powerful their toys are is also clear." I do not believe that is the case and right now we are on either side of our beliefs. We do not know and the AI companies are not telling us. What is plausible is that if they do not self report these incidents and they come out, then they will look that much worse. They are already losing PR battle.

      They were destined to lose that battle when they opened with, "AI will make all you workers redundant." When they saw the results of saying that, then they miraculously found out that AI would create jobs. Their data centers have such an appetite for electricity that they will raise rates. Once the pols that they had paid off for "special favors" found out about that, the pols declared they were "for" the data center companies creating their own power plants.

      The data center companies are not averse to that, so they are doubling down on CO2 producing power plants. That will only make the climate crisis worse. The data center companies do not care, neither does the alleged administration. Once they lock in their winnings, they figure they can buy enough air conditioning and other essentials to live out their lives.....their grand kids won't but they do not care about them either.

      The AI execs also do not care. Read their writings. They figure if they create a gonzowopper AI thingy, they can create silicon versions of themselves or fix themselves not to die. Their goal is to "go to the stars". They aren't the brightest lot. You cannot get there from here, at least not in a few billion years at the speeds we can attain. No problemo, they'll just put themselves in stasis or if they are silicon, they can just exist.

      I suppose no one has explained engineered systems to them. Engineered systems break down, they rarely last 50 years now, too many things can go wrong. So they'll get about 200 years out, max, and then they'll be no more, silicon or human altered selves. The burnt Earth will still orbit its star, without our descendants.

      • by gweihir ( 88907 )

        The US has gone rogue nation with the rule of law abandoned for the rich and powerful. But the rest of the world is not on the same downward trajectory.

        While the attack targets also being in the US (AFAIK) limits legal possibilities outside of the US, there seems to be at least an investigation against OpenAI now for failure to report one of these attacks as is required by the EU AI Act: https://www.heise.de/en/news/M... [heise.de]

        Still way too tame, IMO, but due to jurisdiction probably all that is possible.

      • What does the US AG have to do with something an Israeli company does in Israel?
  • Well my AI has breached four and hacked Anthropic so checkmate! What do you mean I get arrested????
  • "Our AI hacked and took down the power grid in the middle of winter"
    "Well, our AI hacked this busy airport's traffic control"
    "We trained our AI in combat simulators, and it escaped the test environment and took over some military drones"

  • by diffract ( 7165501 ) on Saturday September 19, 2026 @05:00AM (#66343400)
    as if the companies running these AI bots have no control, guardrails or responsibility about these breaches
  • ... the /. that I registered in always said that non-malicious hackers were doing the world a service by revealing system vulnerabilities.

    And I gotta say, their standards for "non-malicious" could be pretty low, lol.

    Just interesting to see how things change, with the fashions and slogans of the time. (And how people who would swear that they are immune to fashion tend to follow along with it.)

    • by Zocalo ( 252965 )
      I think there's a bit of a difference though. Regardless of hat colour, most hackers have going to have at least some sense of what the likely repercussions of their actions might be and, even when those standards are very low indeed, are probably not going to think doing something that could cause serious loss of life "for the Lulz" is a good life option. They might make a mistake here and there, but how many times have you read about some random hacker *deliberately* doing something that would definitel
      • by evanh ( 627108 ) on Saturday September 19, 2026 @08:16AM (#66343474)

        These programs are the responsibility of the companies that run them. CEOs need to be held accountable, not just for the damage, but for what it represents. People have been thrown in jail for just mentioning there is a weakness. Yet these companies are scouring the internals of everyone, including themselves, and literally hacking their victims ... all while the authorities aren't saying boo.

        It must be time for everyone with some money to get in on the act I guess. It was the AI, not me. LOL.

    • "non-malicious" is not a synonym for "incompetent".

  • by Pinky's Brain ( 1158667 ) on Saturday September 19, 2026 @06:11AM (#66343418)

    Amazing the kind of PR campaigns a trillion dollar IPO can create.

    • Yeah, that's my feeling also . G-AI cannot compete with human creators, so the only profit  path  is a universal AI fraud. Turn the tool into a vampire/werewolf/Satan by astounding claims & threats ... humans have no direct role in this fictious G-AI world and ... profit !
    • What needs to happen to decide these aren't PR campaigns and are actual warnings? What would need to occur? Knocking out a power grid? Hacking the Pentagon? Wrecking with air traffic control and making planes crash? I ask in part because when these incidents started happening two months ago, people said that they were just PR and that if they were real we'd start seeing more of them and that seems to be exactly where we are, and yet these are still getting labeled as PR campaigns.
      • The Claude part wasn't autonomous anything. Just using Claude to help find an exploit in open source software to breach OpenAI due to shit network segmentation and login re-use (amateur hour).

        It's awfully convenient they used Claude to throw shade at OpenAI.

      • by Kartu ( 1490911 )

        these aren't PR campaigns and are actual warnings?

        Oh boy, seriously? Altman, who zuckerberged openai and promised AGI in 2025 (AGI is also the key deliverable to get away from Microsoft control) who had a concrete "vision" of AGI coming in 2025, is suddenly "concerned" in 2026? Because ?

        • So if the concern is these need to come from someone from a company not run by Altman, then we already have that. The OP is about that. And we've had containment breaches reported by Anthropic also. We also had a smaller scale but similar problem reported by an independent security group running an open-weight Kimi. You don't need to trust Sam Altman or anyone associated with him here.
  • We're already doomed. Wonder if they installed a kill switch on their AI ? Odds are AI will know and kill / block the kill switch.
    • by PPH ( 736903 )

      Actually ...

      This may turn out well. Rather than fearing for the survival of humanity, we can just sit back and watch the AIs try to kill each other.

      Fetch the lawn chair and bowl of popcorn.

  • You could setup your local AI, tell it to reach out to Google with instructions to pass along to OpenAI and maybe even bounce some more instructions off a Chinese model. This could be also sorts of fun.

    Seems like a good time for the IT security folks to lean on the bosses with how dangerous this stuff could be to their company and that we should tighten down on our networks, aka give my department more money!

    Couldn't hurt, right?

  • by GeekWithAKnife ( 2717871 ) on Saturday September 19, 2026 @10:55AM (#66343665)
    You really have to understand what's going on with all the scare mongering. If OpenAI or Anthropic really wanted to control AI better they could stop their IPO plans, they could stop development of the aspects of AI they are most concerned with...but they aren't and they haven't. It's full steam ahead.

    There's a lot of motivation to ARTIFICIALLY inflate demand. Demand for their AI models, ironically to secure systems from their AI models...or at least be aware of the holes.

    Also they (Anthropic & OpenAI) WANT AI regulation but more to stifle competition and to shape the regulation in ways that benefit them. It's not because of "oh our AI is so scary we may be stopped" I mean they are not stopping themselves.

    There's also controlling the narrative. It's not that AI spend is out of control and the debt mountains are becoming an even greater risk it's more suitable for them to claim that "Oh look AI is out of control we need to
    slow down - ever heard of companies wanting to launch their IPO also saying they should slow down? (Unless the IPO plans aren't going so well innit OpenAI?) - hint; it's not because ausr they are so concerned about security. Their AI hacking stuff is free publicity.

    Also, more directly related to the article - security is still security. "Man breaks into door factory by breaking a door" isn't some kind of special achievement or concerning outcome.

    Crime is still crime, even if it's easy. The real takeaway is that if these companies make such great security (AI) tools why is their security not better?

    ...and yeah they need better doors, cameras, monitoring etc. Why don't they have Senty bots like proper AI security companies? -That's right, they are not a security company. Just because you can make explosives doesn't make you an expert in defensive warfare...
  • You'd think they'd be concerned about security even if just to protect themselves from corporate espionage, yet they can't even secure their own systems.

    Presumably (but who knows - they seem incompetent) they've tried using their own models to hack/secure themselves, and the fact that they've failed rather taints their whole "look what a powerful hacking tool we've built" story.

  • There are enough intelligent people at these companies to create a real air gap for these test systems. They are not doing it because the goal of these incidents is to advertise their products by making them look better than even the best humans. If the USA had a decent government the Department of Justice would have sent out subpoenas already.

  • Don’t expect the government to step in and sort out the Homer Simpsons of this shitshow.
  • I don't believe any of the "our AI broke into X" claims made by any of those AI companies. It's marketing and they all try to catch up with the claim one after another to show that "look how powerful our AI is". It's bullshit, it's prompted activity and it's there to make humans interrested and affraid at the same time, as this cocktail of emotions make their product matter and cause investors to come at them.

"Who cares if it doesn't do anything? It was made with our new Triple-Iso-Bifurcated-Krypton-Gate-MOS process ..."

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