President Trump Doxxes Senator's Cellphone in Push For Permanent Daylight Saving Time (washingtonsun.com) 50
U.S. President Donald Trump "doxxed" a U.S. senator today, writes the Washington Sun, by posting his cell phone number "as part of a plea for his Truth Social followers to badger his Republican ally into making daylight saving time permanent."
When The Washington Sun called the number minutes after Trump's post, a recording said the mailbox was full and could not receive messages...
[Senator Tom] Cotton has long detested the idea of making daylight saving time permanent. In a Senate floor speech last year, Cotton said doing so would "make winter a dark and dismal time for millions of Americans," particularly harming kids. The Senate was only able to unanimously pass the bill in 2022 because Cotton was reportedly unaware the vote was taking place, though the measure stalled out from there. The Arkansas Republican didn't back down in a post on Saturday. "Arkansans don't want their kids going to school in the pitch dark, and I'll always put Arkansas first," he posted on X.
Trump continued his tear against Cotton soon after. "If Tom Cotton were putting Arkansas first, he would give them an extra hour of daylight and, more importantly, they wouldn't have to run all over their houses, farms, work places, and everywhere else, twice a year, having to change their Clocks, and often forgetting to do so," he posted on Truth.
[Senator Tom] Cotton has long detested the idea of making daylight saving time permanent. In a Senate floor speech last year, Cotton said doing so would "make winter a dark and dismal time for millions of Americans," particularly harming kids. The Senate was only able to unanimously pass the bill in 2022 because Cotton was reportedly unaware the vote was taking place, though the measure stalled out from there. The Arkansas Republican didn't back down in a post on Saturday. "Arkansans don't want their kids going to school in the pitch dark, and I'll always put Arkansas first," he posted on X.
Trump continued his tear against Cotton soon after. "If Tom Cotton were putting Arkansas first, he would give them an extra hour of daylight and, more importantly, they wouldn't have to run all over their houses, farms, work places, and everywhere else, twice a year, having to change their Clocks, and often forgetting to do so," he posted on Truth.
Haha (Score:5, Insightful)
Proving once again no one is safe from a tyrant.
good to see (Score:2)
It gives me a little tweak of satisfaction every time twitler burns one of his shameless allies.
No concept of the Golden Rule (Score:5, Insightful)
Trump Doxxes Senator's [Tom Cotton (R-AR)] Cellphone
Imagine how irate Trump would be if someone did this to him -- or even half the stuff he does to others.
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Or even a tenth. It's spoilt brat hypocrisy all the way down with MAGA.
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Trump Doxxes Senator's [Tom Cotton (R-AR)] Cellphone
Imagine how irate Trump would be if someone did this to him -- or even half the stuff he does to others.
I don't want to "imagine" it - I want to discover it empirically. I want to see him and every well-known adult member of his family - except for Mary - doxxed repeatedly until the only way they can talk privately is either in person or via two tin cans and a long piece of string.
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And rightly so. The senator is not Trump. He is not immune from prosecution like Trump is. So it makes perfect sense that if someone doxxed Trump it should be treated differently than if Trump doxxed a regular American. Trump is a special case with special rights.
I(f you don't like it, maybe don't elect a king?)
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But he's the Chosen One. Jesus Fox Christ says he's Special, so the rules don't apply to him. We muggles get shit
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or even half the stuff he does to others.
Well we'd have all tried grabbing him by the pussy but none of us have hands big enough to do justice to the massive pussy that TACO is.
Exercised by anything (Score:5, Interesting)
Why is it that the discussion on almost any issue in the US makes it sound like a bad decision is some sort of existential threat?
Re:Exercised by anything (Score:5, Insightful)
Fear and fake boogey men is keeps republicans in power. Immigrants will take your jobs at at second. A home invasion will happen to you any second. Biden will ban your steaks, Kamala will force windmills in your backyard, etc etc. Vote republican to hurt others and feel safe!
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Because that's the received wisdom: if you don't like a decision, the best way to get it reversed is to yell about how it's going to lead to utter disaster and it MUST be changed at all costs.
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Presumably because people in the USA are so soft their kids can't spend a few minutes in the "dark" (streetlights are over 200 years old now)
Trump is such a dick (Score:5, Informative)
He's full of shit in everything he says.
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He's full of shit in everything he says.
Start with all parental advice you might ever give your child, take the inverse, and distill it.
Crazy idea here... (Score:5, Insightful)
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Or how about those southern states just shift their time zone instead of messing with everyone else.
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Or how about those southern states just shift their time zone instead of messing with everyone else.
Or how about we all just park the time half-way between Standard and DST, and never change it again?
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That doesn't help at all. Time zones are always needed.
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It's the southern states which see comparatively little benefit from DST.
What I - and presumably many others - find amusing about this is Tom Cotton - loyal to the point of idiocy - not being loyal enough for His Master. I'd guess that Cotton is now seeing more mileage in separating himself from his Glorious dead duck Leader except that his position on this particular issue has been clear for some time.
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Or just get rid of daylight savings time instead of making it permanent. Permanent DST is the worst solution.
Re: Crazy idea here... (Score:4, Insightful)
Or just get rid of daylight savings time instead of making it permanent. Permanent DST is the worst solution.
Or how about we switch to standard time for the winter but use DST for the summer? That way we get light in the morning in winter (which you want), plus light in the evening in summer (which other people want).
(Sorry if this is a goofy answer. It just seems like we already have the solution that works best for people's natural clocks and when the sun is available.)
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Depending on where you live the light before or after work may be a case of not preferencing it before or after, or not having to worry about it at all. The idea that a solution "works best" for people's "natural clocks" is just gas lighting. If it worked best for people there wouldn't be a debate. If it were part of any natural clock we wouldn't have a sudden 1 hour shift.
This won't ever suit everyone. There's only pro and con argument to be made based on people's personal situation and above all: desires.
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If DST were eliminated, the sun would rise at 4:15 am in Chicago in June.
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I don't really see why this would be a problem. People are adaptable. It snows a lot in Chicago but that doesn't stop people from going to work and school through the winter.
Re:Crazy idea here... (Score:4, Insightful)
12PM is fucking noon is when the fucking sun is at its highest position in the sky.
It has been like this for at least a millennia. DST is bullshit.
Live with nature and quit fucking denying it like a conservative.
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If you dont want your kids going to school in the dark just change the school hours.
If you don't want your kids living in the dark just change the administration.
FTFY
That's not really an option (Score:2, Insightful)
Now we could build a civilization around something other than work especially given how much automation we keep doing but fuck that right?
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No (Score:2)
The only option is to keep increasing your productivity and hope you get enough to keep your head just barely above water.
If you want to do away with daylight savings time you're going to have to do away with our current anarco capitalist system. You can't have a few nice things in a
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Or put in basic street lighting while also not raising a bunch of soft little fairy floss wimps?
Same old song and dance (Score:4, Interesting)
The real problem is all the moving parts that make it difficult to just do the smart thing, i.e. change the school system start and end time, if it's a problem. I realize that parents often build routines and work schedules around school, and that those parents just may not have the lee-way to adjust their schedules (business open/close times, approval from boss, etc).
Of course, all those problems still might be easier to solve at the state level than relying Act of Congress.
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It's not parents. It's society. Schools is just one element of it, but everything we do is somehow interlinked and tied together with common understandings of what constitutes "business hours". The shift is far more difficult than any one subset of people adjusting their schedule, which is why this stuff is fundamentally dealt with at the clock level in the first place.
But one thing is clear: This is *NOT* a problem for a state level. There's nothing worse than dividing clocks further in a country. Yes the
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This is *NOT* a problem for a state level. There's nothing worse than dividing clocks further in a country. Yes the timezone may not be ideal for everyone
By "this", I expect you are referring to Daylight Saving Time...and I vehemently agree. That's definitely something that should not become even more piecemeal than it already is.
To clarify my position, by "all of those problems" I specifically meant "business hours" and the other links in the chains that bind people to said business hours. Many of those problems, I think, can be better solved at a more local level. Whether or not they ever will be...
We already tried it (Score:5, Informative)
We tried year-round DST for a short time in the 70s. It was popular before it was passed, but... very very unpopular after it passed, because the mornings are very very dark and unpleasant. Good thing we learn from history rather than repeating it!
Re:We already tried it (Score:4, Informative)
I was a kid in the 70s. I walked to school (by myself) in the dark many mornings. Daylight savings time would not have prevented that.
Kids don't walk to school now. They are not alone in the dark without protection from the boogeymen and wild animals, freezing in the cold and wet. Parents chauffer them to school and back. Times have changed.
We are also not working the same rigid schedules we were then. School hours were set to allow parents to get their kids off to school before their shift at the factory / office. School does not have to start at 8am.
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Yeah you have to be a special kind of stupid to think permanent DST is a good idea. We should get rid of it all together, not make it permanent.
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Reminds me of where I live. It was a common trope that we were located well away from any earthquake fault lines until an earthquake destroyed a number of buildings here. Afterwards, the local papers happily reported how there was lots of evidence in the hills and rocks all around of ongoing activity but also past city records of prior events doing damage to dwellings when it was a smaller town. In fact, even the university here has always specialised in earthquake engineering.
It was a known, but public
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Re: We already tried it (Score:2)
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very very unpopular after it passed, because the mornings are very very dark and unpleasant
Everything is always unpopular after it passes. Also mornings are always unpleasant. The question is, do you accept that unpleasantness as a trade-off the mind-blowingly brilliant increase in pleasure that is being able to get home from work and enjoy more a sunny day?
Seriously fuck mornings, whether the sun is up or not. I'd trade every second of sun before work for extra sun after in a heartbeat. I can't sit in outside and enjoy a nice beer before work. My employer does random alcohol testing.
Complete insanity (Score:2)
How the mighty have fallen ...
Permanent DST is definitely not the best choice (Score:4, Interesting)
Some scientific studies have found that permanent DST is about 2/3rds as good as permanent standard time:
https://med.stanford.edu/news/... [stanford.edu]
And others have found that permanent DST is the worst option:
https://www.berkshireeagle.com... [berkshireeagle.com]
Considering Trump is pushing this it's probably lucky that he's not manually adjusting the time zone to suit how he feels with no warning.
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“It’s based on the theory that early morning light is better for our overall health,” Zeitzer said of these endorsements. “The problem is that it’s a theory without any data. And finally, we have data.” ... ... ...
The researchers used a mathematical model to translate light exposure under each time policy, based on local sunrise and sunset times, to circadian burden — essentially, how much a person’s innate clock has to shift to keep up with the 24-hour day.
To link circadian burden to specific health outcomes, the researchers analyzed county-level data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention on the prevalence of arthritis, cancer, chronic obstructive pulmonary disease, coronary heart disease, depression, diabetes, obesity and stroke.
For one thing, the researchers didn’t account for many factors that could influence real-life light exposure, including weather, geography and human behavior.
In their calculations, the researchers assumed consistent and relatively circadian-friendly light habits, including a 10 p.m. to 7 a.m. sleep schedule, sunlight exposure before and after work and on weekends, and indoor light exposure from 9 a.m. to 5 p.m. and after sunset. But in reality, many people have erratic sleep schedules and spend more time indoors.
“People’s light habits are probably much worse than what we assume in the models,” Zeitzer said. “Even in California, where the weather is great, people spend less than 5% of their day outside.”
It's perfectly reasonable as a publishing churn paper, but it's a crock of shit if you're trying to use it to inform public debate. Nothing was actually studied. It's a mathematical model that doesn't try to model actual human behavior or account for confounding factors. You can have the result be anything.
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Honestly most Americans would be healthier walking to their letterbox instead of driving to the end of their driveway. I don't think a tiny barely significant change in health is at all relevant for anything other than your desire to push you own personal preference.
Fuck mornings. Let them be dark so I can spend more time enjoying a beer in the afternoon (did the study consider liver damage?)
It is not doxxing (Score:2, Troll)
When the "doxxed" is an elected representative of the people. Someone paid by taxpayers, with work tools paid by taxpayers, is paid to work for the people. But once again, the media want to portrait anything they disagree as [insert today's narrative here]. Sen Cotton isn't being arrested, as Flock has incorrectly doxxed many others in the country. He's just publicly called out to do what he was put to work for.
Permanent health debuff (Score:2)
It has been proven that DST is bad for your health. Now, why would Trump be behind something that harms all Americans?