Palmer Luckey Reveals Genetically Modified Military Dog Startup (wired.com) 60
An anonymous reader quotes a report from Wired: A new startup launched today with the definitely not terrifying mission of creating genetically enhanced dogs for the United States military, law enforcement, and emergency first responders. Warhound is the brainchild of Anduril's Palmer Luckey and Colossal Biosciences cofounder Ben Lamm. The startup has raised $200 million to "rebuild America's domestic supply of elite working dogs" and reduce dependency on European dog breeders for military canines.
Lamm tells WIRED that Warhound is in the process of gene-editing its first batch of dogs. The startup has already collected blood samples from specific "top-performing" military, police, and first responder dogs in the United States, and its goal is to clone them. Breeds will be "mostly Belgian Malinois, some labs, and some shepherds," he says. The company anticipates the first round of puppies to be born in early 2027. The initial rounds of gene-editing will focus on eliminating common health conditions that impact these breeds, like hip dysplasia. Further down the line, Lamm envisions expanding to "really interesting things," such as incorporating olfactory receptor genes from wolves to "enhance" the military dogs. (Colossal Biosciences is perhaps best known for its work on gene-edited wolves for its so-called Dire Wolf De-Extinction Project.)
Warhound, based in Texas, will also equip its canines with "Anduril's advanced cybernetic Augments, software, and battlefield situational awareness," according to a press release. Asked if this means the dogs will be some kind of cyborgs, Lamm clarifies that the plan right now is to supply them with tools like "advanced body armor" rather than, say, embedding some sort of computer in their dog bodies. "So no dogs with lasers?" WIRED asked Lamm. "I can't comment on what Anduril plans," he says. "Dog safety and performance, and then helping continue helping to improve the human handler and dog bond, and working as a team -- that is what the mission is." [...] The company plans to operate under the guidance of the American Humane Society.
Lamm tells WIRED that Warhound is in the process of gene-editing its first batch of dogs. The startup has already collected blood samples from specific "top-performing" military, police, and first responder dogs in the United States, and its goal is to clone them. Breeds will be "mostly Belgian Malinois, some labs, and some shepherds," he says. The company anticipates the first round of puppies to be born in early 2027. The initial rounds of gene-editing will focus on eliminating common health conditions that impact these breeds, like hip dysplasia. Further down the line, Lamm envisions expanding to "really interesting things," such as incorporating olfactory receptor genes from wolves to "enhance" the military dogs. (Colossal Biosciences is perhaps best known for its work on gene-edited wolves for its so-called Dire Wolf De-Extinction Project.)
Warhound, based in Texas, will also equip its canines with "Anduril's advanced cybernetic Augments, software, and battlefield situational awareness," according to a press release. Asked if this means the dogs will be some kind of cyborgs, Lamm clarifies that the plan right now is to supply them with tools like "advanced body armor" rather than, say, embedding some sort of computer in their dog bodies. "So no dogs with lasers?" WIRED asked Lamm. "I can't comment on what Anduril plans," he says. "Dog safety and performance, and then helping continue helping to improve the human handler and dog bond, and working as a team -- that is what the mission is." [...] The company plans to operate under the guidance of the American Humane Society.
Manmade horrors entirely within my comprehension (Score:5, Insightful)
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I suspect marker-assisted selection would be much more efficient and effective in accomplishing the same things than gene-editing and cloning them.
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Yay venture capital (Score:3)
Re: Manmade horrors entirely within my comprehensi (Score:2)
The objective isn't to create happier healthier dogs, it's to create biological weapons from dogs.
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War dogs were used in medieval times all over the world.
In plate armour, or unarmoured, as combat companion of armoured warriors.
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Okay but that was before we had guns. And tanks. And rockets. And FPV drones. And mechanical robot dogs that don't eat, and don't get scared or traumatized or get disease or randomly disobey.
Horses used to be some of the highest utility anmials on the planet; I'd argue much more prolific and much more important even in warfare alone than war dogs, or war elephants, or war hawks, or any combat specific animal ever has been. Why aren't we genetically engineering warhorses?
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Why aren't we genetically engineering warhorses?
Because we have tanks.
And combat robot dogs already.
Horses are cute and clever but difficult to feed in warfare. But they have a bonus: we can eat them if the food runs out.
Re: Manmade horrors entirely within my comprehens (Score:2)
Dogs obey humans relatively easily through training, in some ways more reliable at following commands than an AI chatbot. Dogs are able to read secondary cues from humans. Their facial expressions, body posture, voice stress, etc. so dogs have long been integrated in human groups for hunting and war.
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This headline sounds like something you'd hear coming from a news report on a TV in the background near the start of a horror movie.
Re: Manmade horrors entirely within my comprehensi (Score:2)
Like moving from botanical engineering to genetic engineering is somehow evil.
Maybe people will feel better if instead of dogs they start modifying and breeding especially large rats.
(ROUSes - lol)
Re: Manmade horrors entirely within my comprehens (Score:2)
Motives matter. You're arguing that the means justifies the ends, which is perhaps a worst version of the original phrase.
Re: Manmade horrors entirely within my comprehen (Score:2)
Sorry! The comment landed in the wrong thread.
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I think what people are finding dubious is the "plausible intended use".
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I'm curious how breed behavior will be handled. For example, for the most part, Belgian Malinois have no off switch. I wonder if there is a way to dial them back from redline when not on duty, but still have a working dog.
I think it s a good idea to breed out the congenital problems. Less cruel overall.
They must be worried about upcoming elections (Score:2)
They're announcing now because they want to at least get a first round of that sweet, sweet investor (and probably government) cash coming their way ASAP! Who knows if they'll still have a "money is no object" buyer in a couple years?
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TFTFY
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oh man.. you didn't scratch them between ears..
70 kg of a dog that jumps to lick your face is unforgettable
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Because Ayran, aka Iran, where the Ayrans come from (and yes they have often blue eyes, but some would be disappointed about the hair colour): just got bombed.
Those here are not from Ayran, but Sarabi: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org]
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those people dont actually vote.
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Trump is openly corrupt, for sure. Criminal- that's a little more wishy washy, given his position as POTUS.
What I find interesting, is that you cite belief with regard to a fact, and wonder what's wrong with those that refuse to see that fact.
81% of Americans believe in some kind of God. The fact that 44% are willing to believe their demigod is not corrupt is... well, not surprising.
Cults of Personality have swirled around many of our great Presidents, Republican and Democrat alike. He may be
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What is it with tech bros (Score:5, Insightful)
Re: What is it with tech bros (Score:3)
No negative feedback. Try running an opamp without one or with a positive fb (yes-men) and see what you get.
Same here, except without the few useful applications that the positive feedback circuits have.
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biting will continue until freedom improves.
people don't deserve dogs (Score:5, Insightful)
but we've know that for many millennia.
Man's Best Friend (Score:2)
Which sci fi horror are we getting? Man's Best Friend?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?... [youtube.com]
Or Gamma dogs?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?... [youtube.com]
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Ohhh good choices!
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It's clearly The 6th Day, Arnold takes the family dog to get it cloned in that one.
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That's boring though. Hulkapoodle is much more compelling for military applications!
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Right now these are just malinois dogs with gene edits to prevent hip dysplasia. They can be military sure, but mine does nothing more aggressive than chase butterflies in the backyard.
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Perhaps you should ask for an upgrade?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?... [youtube.com]
A Boy and His Dog (Score:2)
Deja Vu, 1997. (Score:2)
Next, Cows with guns [spotify.com]
Warhounds, eh? (Score:2)
This pleases Khorne. Blood and skulls, and so on and so forth.
You heard it here first (Score:2)
Palmer Luckey Reveals Genetically Modified Military Dog Startup
And... The company and/or product will be called "Luckey Dogs". /s
(A subsidiary of "Greased Palm(ers) Industries.)
Similar to Elon Musk? (Score:2)
Palmer Luckey is a creep just like Musk. It seems at least possible that some of his personal genetic material would make it into his uber-hound. And Kash Patel is good with FBI agents that may have involvement with bestiality.
I started thinking of this as a horrible joke, but I'm so weirded out now I'm wondering if it could en
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Why is Palmer Luckey a "creep"?
Are you a TikTok girl or something?
Have you actually looked into his relationship habits?
He is a huge anime and retro video game nut. He married a cosplayer. (He did a little cosplay himself). They've been married since 2019 and have a kid together.
He won at life, basically.
Screw curing cancer, make terrifying animals (Score:2)
Gene editing can only benefit humankind ... said who?
Will not end well (Score:2)
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I want two squads! (Score:2)
Wait a moment ... how big is a squad?
How much do they eat?
Do we need to hunt negros to get food for the dogs?
Ah, they can do that themselves ... I forgot about that.
Reminds me about Jurassic park, the last words of the great hunter, when he got stalked by two Raptors: "clever!"
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I would venture to say that a squad would be 9 "soldiers" - 4 x 1 dog + 1 handler / section lead. 4 sections plus 1 squad leader and there you are. 2 squads = 10 men and 8 dogs.
3 MREs per day per human, plus 2 per day (suitably modified to support canine nutrition) per dog, minus any 'foraging', should feed them well enough. War dogs often carry packs so they can help carry supplies - though I'd like to see some form of quick release so the dog can shed its pack quickly in need.
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Gosh, I hoped it was dogs only, and I could use my whistle to whistle them around.
You make me feel disappointed, actually sad :/
read a book (Score:2)
Goddamn apocalypse creators. We were warned for many decades.
The perfect dog has already been bred... (Score:2)
Australian Cattle Dog (Blue Heeler, Red Heeler, Heeler)
'nuff said
Malinois 2.0 (Score:2)
These dogs really suffers from worn out hips pretty fast. It is sad to watch. You see healthy dogs crawl in pain through their last years. If they can get that out? It is all worth it.
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Paging Dr. Alphonse Mephesto (Score:2)