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US and Rest of World Must Follow China's Lead On Green Energy, Says John Kerry (theguardian.com) 205

Longtime Slashdot reader AmiMoJo shares a report from The Guardian: China is leading the world in moving away from fossil fuels, and the rest of the globe -- including the US -- must now follow, the former US secretary of state John Kerry has told the Guardian, as Cop watchers wonder exactly how China is going to approach this year's climate summit. As Cop31 opens -- this year the climate conference is in Turkey -- there is plenty of speculation about whether China will finally step into the leadership role that it has long avoided. In its latest "five-year plan" adopted in March 2026, China for the first time pledged to "actively participate in and lead global climate governance". Cop31 could provide the first indications Beijing is ready to put that rhetoric into action, something it has historically been reluctant to do.

In 2025, clean-tech exports surpassed $220 billion, and they should grow again this year; the world's largest emitter is now the world's leading supplier of clean energy technology. China accounts for about 85% of solar and 80% of lithium-ion battery supply chain production capacity, and in 2025, nearly 75% of electric cars were manufactured there. Smart moves now by China would position it as a linchpin in a future electrostate world order, persuade rivals to cooperate, and solidify its influence in the global south.
"The only country that has hugely accelerated is China," said Kerry. "The rest of the world is stumbling along while Mother Nature is sending us more powerful signals every week, every day."

"[China] realized suddenly they had way too much dependency on oil and gas from other places, and they decided they needed to be independent. Other countries, since the war in Iran, and since the strait of Hormuz has been interrupted, have made a similar decision, and they're moving independently. There's been a massive uptick in deployment of renewables. Thank you, Donald Trump."

For autocratic states without free and fair elections, seeing the economic benefits reaped by China would be the spur to adopt low-carbon growth, he added. "They'll see where the market is going, and they will recognize where the cheaper alternatives are. Even they can read a spreadsheet, and understand where costs are exorbitant [in fossil fuels], and where you have a better deal," Kerry said. "Right now, renewables together with storage, together with some transitional gas, is cheaper and more effective, than just going with fossil fuels."

He added: "The marketplace has made its decision and globally is moving to electrons, and electrostate status. People are going to electricity and they're going to try to do that as clean as humanly possible. That's the choice that I see being implemented in many different places. It is unstoppable."

US and Rest of World Must Follow China's Lead On Green Energy, Says John Kerry

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  • by sit1963nz ( 934837 ) on Wednesday November 11, 2026 @02:30AM (#66419359)
    Its just a brute fact we have polluted too much already and we MUST change .

    Say what you like about China, but in this they lead the world.
    • Re: (Score:2, Informative)

      Yes, we all need to change, but China accounted for 31.84% of global CO2 emissions in 2025. This represents a slight decrease from a peak of 32.26% in 2023, but in absolute terms, the level of emissions has essentially plateaued. They have, for the most part, risen steadily with the exception of the very recent period. A large proportion of China's CO2 emissions comes from coal.

      The United States is the second-largest emitter, at 12.60% (2022), though its emissions per capita have been declining for the p
      • Re: (Score:2, Informative)

        by Anonymous Coward

        America is still responsible for the most cumulative CO2. [ourworldindata.org] More than China. More than the entire EU added together.

        If we take your number 12% of the current world CO2. But America less than 5% of the world population...

        • That curve shows the cumulative value since 1750. I am looking at annual data from the same source. Which curve one is interested in depends on whether one is concerned with the sins of the past or with the present.
      • Right, and what would their emissions be were it not for the renewables? Much higher, right?

        We have to stop with the nirvana fallacy (anything other than the perfect solution is invalid). China's emissions plateauing is a GOOD THING. No, it's not the BEST THING, but it is a GOOD THING. If the trend continues, China will be able to demonstrate meaningful reductions in their CO2 emissions over time, which is more than what could be said for most other non-European countries (European scientists saw this as a

        • by shilly ( 142940 )

          I agree with the thrust of what you say, but with the slight quibble that actually, many non-European countries are also about to see emissions fall, from Pakistan, to sub-Saharan Africa, to Ethiopia, to Australia. The common thread is cheap renewables and storage. Largely solar, but for Ethiopia it's hydro too (and a ban on ICE cars).

      • by AmiMoJo ( 196126 ) on Wednesday November 11, 2026 @08:09AM (#66419590) Homepage Journal

        Because China's population is 1.4 billion people.

        What's more important is the rate of change. Every country goes along a curve where emissions increase, peak, and then drop. China was on the up slope as it industrialized, and is now starting on the down slope. The peak was far, far below where the US and Europe peaked per capita, the only reasonable measure unless you think their One Child policy was a good idea.

        The rate at which China is installing renewables and storage is staggering. Just the newly installed renewable capacity from 2025 produced as much electrical energy as the whole of Germany consumed that year. Just the new stuff, and this year they are on track for it to be even more. They are adding more than a Germany sized amount of renewable generation to the grid, PER YEAR, and accelerating.

        If Europe and the US were doing that too we would be in a much better position regarding climate change. It would doubtless be a huge boon for those economies as well.

        • If Europe and the US were doing that too we would be in a much better position regarding climate change. It would doubtless be a huge boon for those economies as well.

          This goes to show the utter fecklessness of the right wing positions. If you ignore the environmental side (which is also just abject stupidity), it's obviously good economically, and for national security. These are things conservatives claim to be in favour of, though I've never seen any evidence of it.

          Being insulated from externally imposed

      • by shilly ( 142940 )

        "A large proportion of China's CO2 emissions comes from coal."
        Obviously. Equally obviously, they are keen to replace coal with renewables as fast as possible, because it's cheaper for them. Avoiding an intermediate stage of going to natgas is going to make their transition faster than ours.

      • Re: (Score:2, Insightful)

        by drinkypoo ( 153816 )

        Yes, we all need to change, but China accounted for 31.84% of global CO2 emissions in 2025.

        That's not a "but", if anything, it's an "and".

    • by gweihir ( 88907 )

      While it is deeply troubling that the only capable leadership in this question seems to come from China, this is the best chance for human civilization to survive. The West has proven itself to be not capable enough (Europe) or completely incapable (the US). And time is running out fast.

      Yes, this will give China power and influence it should not have. But there seem to be no alternatives left.

    • Lead? China is a massive polluter. We have environmental laws and they don't. The EU has a high standard. China has universally been a menace both in China and in the world as a whole. This is ignoring what their fishing fleets do which is a nightmare for the worlds oceans. I'd love it if they did actually take the lead, but culturally I don't see that happening yet.
      • We have environmental laws and they don't.
        They have.

        You are either uninformed or a troll.

        They have some of the most strictest environmental laws of the planet.

        Since several decades.

        So I assume you are just a troll.

    • Funny how everyone always mentions China as the leader, but leaves out the actual leader France, that did the same thing 40+ years ago in response to the 1973 oil embargo, for mostly the same reasons. And they did it without waiting 40+ years for the new renewabled technologies by using existing proven green technology which they standardardized in to a fleet design for the whole country, greatly reducing the cost by using that same standard design for all their plants. They already have their C02 generat
    • China lags, not leads. There is an enormous amount of misinformation in this space -- exporting large numbers of solar cells does not mean you are cutting emissions at all, it is a completely different metric.

      For the record, China gets half its energy from coal, about 20% from oil, about 15% from natural gas. It is not leading in any sense. They are massively investing in new oil fields, fracking, and deep water drilling, they added 225 new oil fields, they are building out new coal plants and new natgas pi

      • China gets half [50%] its energy from coal, about 20% from oil, about 15%
        That is 85% - and obviously wrong.

        Stupid troll, try harder.

        The "leading" in the article is about yearly installations.

        Try to get some reading comprehension: troll.

  • by 93 Escort Wagon ( 326346 ) on Wednesday November 11, 2026 @03:10AM (#66419389)

    Unfortunately, when I see "John Kerry", even after all this time... my mind immediately goes right here [youtu.be].

  • by Pinky's Brain ( 1158667 ) on Wednesday November 11, 2026 @03:27AM (#66419397)

    With EU and the US already being on gas instead of coal, the percentage of renewable for China doesn't give them much to brag about till they actually roll out net zero.

    They are soaking up the extra capacity caused by their industrial policy of wage suppression for industrial expansion, but even for them long term storage is too expensive.

    • by thegarbz ( 1787294 ) on Wednesday November 11, 2026 @07:22AM (#66419542)

      With EU and the US already being on gas instead of coal

      Coal consumption in the US is the highest its been since 2022 and saw a 10% increase in 2025 alone. Don't celebrate until the Orange Dumbfuck in Chief is gone. The EU is holding steady but has seen no meaningful decrease since COVID thanks to the restriction in gas supplies causing all countries to put on hold plans to shut down coal plants.

      Also "already on gas" is a bit dishonest. The USA is still burning 8.7 exajoules of coal a year. All of Europe (not the EU, but total continent) a place with 2.5 times the number of people (but keep reading) is burning 7.33 exajoules. In the USA that's about 20% of the gas consumption, and in Europe it's about 35%. But a reminder nearly 30% of Europe's total gas use is residential and not substituting coal.

      Coal still makes up an embarrassingly huge part of the USA and Europe's energy mix. We have a long way to go.

      *Numbers from the 2026 Statistical Review of World Energy by the Energy Institute.

  • Works for me. (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Petersko ( 564140 ) on Wednesday November 11, 2026 @03:48AM (#66419413)

    I don't get overly bent out of shape based on the source of an idea anymore. If it's a good idea, then that's enough for me. If China can help us on that path, then let's do it. I'm on board.

    I'll take renewables and MSG. Both make my life better.

  • by Arnonyrnous Covvard ( 7286638 ) on Wednesday November 11, 2026 @04:15AM (#66419422)

    There is no environmental gain from using more renewables, only from reducing fossil fuel consumption. China is doing the former, not the latter. I hear you bickering that they'd use even more fossil fuels if it weren't for renewables, and you're right, but they (and humanity in total) are still pumping out far too much CO2, and that, not the amount of renewable energy production, is the benchmark.

    • by Bongo ( 13261 )

      Well, with a bit of artistic license, I'm going to make a parallel, albeit not too convincing, but I think there's still a point or something in it -- that this is not unlike people who have made deliberate choices like driving an electric or becoming vegetarian or getting a heat exchanger but they'll still go and have two or three kids. In absolute terms those two or three kids are the biggest factor.

      • Or what about people who drive into work every day or buy new clothes every week. There are lots of other things people could be doing than driving an EV. Also vehicle transportation only counts for 7% of GHG emissions, and that includes trucks and buses. Personal vehicles is only around 1.5%. if everyone in the world had an EV we would only shave off 1.5%.
        • No, it's ~10%. Where did you get that 1.5% from?

          https://www.iea.org/reports/breakthrough-agenda-report-2025/road-transport
          Step 1: Find the Car Emissions on the IEA Road Transport Page

          On the IEA Road Transport Report page, look under the "Emissions" bullet points near the top. It gives two figures for 2024:
          Total Road Emissions. The road sector reached just over 6 Gt CO (gigatonnes) in 2024.
          Passenger Car Share. "Over 60% of road emissions are from passenger cars or vans."
          Resulting Car

        • Again one of your stupid nonsense posts.

          Flight alone is close to 2% world wide emissions. That would actually be neglectable, if it was not about the height at which the planes fly.

          Then all the other transportation comes on top.

          In Germany total CO2 emissions by transport is 23%.

          And your country: is far worse.

      • but they'll still go and have two or three kids. In absolute terms those two or three kids are the biggest factor.
        No they are not.

        When the kids are grown up, there won't be any ordinary ICE cars anymore.
        Energy production will likely be 100% green.

        Kids are not polluting the planet. Grand parents and parents did, and are still doing it.

    • You only see the past, not the trend.

      In terms of pure generation per capita, China is very afar from true leadership on generation.
      In terms of gross generation they are, but just because they have a massive population. They are doing a significant effort and narrowing the distance from the true leaders, but the big population smash any difference, so I can see why other people see them as the most significant contributors in the change.
      They are. They started being very pollutant, and while they still are, t

      • reducing effectively the fossil fuel consumption

        No, this isn't a thing. It's either being increased or reduced. The USA is doing worse by increasing, but we also need to be actually decreasing the use of fossils.

    • only from reducing fossil fuel consumption. China is doing the former, not the latter.

      The numbers around the numbers matter. China's energy demand is massively increasing and the portion of fossil fuel consumption dedicated to both energy production as well as residential consumption is decreasing at the fastest rate in the world. Blaming them for still burning fossil fuels is insanely dishonest or woefully ignorant of how energy works in general.

      The world would be in a far better place if we even remotely matched China both in terms of emissions per capita (China's is way lower than any wes

      • The world would be in a far better place if we even remotely matched China both in terms of emissions per capita (China's is way lower than any western country)

        You have that backward [europa.eu]. China isn't in the top tier of the very worst countries, but they're in the next tier just below that. In 2025, China's per capita CO2 emissions were 9.07 tons. The EU as a whole was only 5.52. Portugal was 3.67. Costa Rica was 1.93.

      • portion of fossil fuel consumption dedicated to both energy production as well as residential consumption is decreasing at the fastest rate in the world.

        That was my point. If you burn 1 ton of coal and also create 1 GWh of renewable electricity this year, and then burn 1.1 tons of coal and also create 1000 GWh of renewable energy next year, you've dwarfed the portion of fossil fuel consumption and helped the environment NONE.

        China has not reduced CO2 output: https://statbase.org/data/chn-... [statbase.org]

        You're being hoodwinked through misdirection. From an environmental perspective, it strictly does not matter how much electricity you create from renewable sources. It's

    • by AmiMoJo ( 196126 )

      Remember all the whining about how we would have to go back to being an agrarian society and suffer a massive decline in living standards to get to net zero?

      China is proving that isn't true. In fact, it's proving that all the fearmongering about net zero costing us too much is nonsense, and it's actually a huge economic opportunity. They can't make solar panels, wind turbines, EVs, batteries and all the other stuff fast enough to satisfy the huge demand. The energy produced is the cheapest available, which

      • We do need to do a lot more.

        We need to burn less (and reduce other sources of atmospheric CO2.) If you want to have electricity, you need to generate it with much less CO2 output. But no matter how much electricity you generate renewably, it will not reduce the climate impact of the CO2 you're still releasing into the atmosphere. This isn't an argument to reduce our standard of living. It isn't an argument against renewable electricity. I'm just pointing out that it all means nothing if the CO2 output isn't reduced, and rather quickly

    • by pla ( 258480 )
      I agree with you in spirit, but we need to live in this world - Why tear down a bunch of fossil fuel power plants still in their prime just to replace them with a technology that's still rapidly getting better?

      Climate change won't be fixed by a revolution, more like a critical mass. If, when the current gen comes up for closure/retrofitting/replacement, the same capacity can be replaced (including baseload) with renewables for less money... It will be. What we can do in the meantime is make sure there's s
      • Why tear down a bunch of fossil fuel power plants still in their prime just to replace them with a technology that's still rapidly getting better?

        Certainly don't tear anything down. Mothball those plants in case they are needed in wartime, during unprecedented weather activity that disrupts solar production for long periods, etc. Maintain a reserve of fuel for them in the bargain. Coal is great for this because it's great at lying around. You certainly don't want to use it if you don't have to, but it would be foolish to dismantle it. It's worth paying to store it.

  • Will destroy the environment if we donâ(TM)t change how we operate as a civilization, the oil companies and billionaire/banker class donâ(TM)t care as long as they get to keep raking in profits at the expense of everyone else
  • This guy, along with Al Gore and Hazel O'Leary led the effort to kill the Integral Fast Reactor which was operational by 1991 which simultaneously solved the nuclear waste and energy generation problems.

    From what I can tell getting this going was the only thing GHWB did right.

    It's said Gore did it to pay off Greenpeace, Kerry did it for the Lincoln Labs tokamak project, and O'Leary did it for Big Oil (like Ford killing Project Liberty). Later Gore parlayed this betrayal into his slide show grift.

    Now 35 year

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