Evolution 1.5 has Been Released 317
SirPrize writes "As announced here, Evolution 1.5 is now available for download (obligatory screenshots, for those who want to click and see)" Congrats to all the developers responsible for this gigantic undertaking.
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If we're gonna get news like this... (Score:5, Insightful)
I still think... (Score:5, Insightful)
I don't pretend to understand the intricacies of Evolution and why it may be impossible to run on Windows, but I think that if it were possible, it would be a large boon to the project.
Remote calendar support? (Score:5, Insightful)
That having been said, though, I am still disappointed by the fact that they are not supporting remote calendars out of the box. Sure, you can buy plugins to connect it to Exchange, or Netscape/iPlanet/SunONE/JES calendar server (whatever they're calling it this week), and presumably Groupwise (soon)
So how about it, codemonkeys? The sooner we get some real open source calendaring going, the sooner we can start to make a real challenge to Outlook. Microsoft loves the Outlook/Exchange lock-in. They love it so much that they're trying to do the same thing across their entire product line (Office 2003 has many ties to SharePoint server). The window of opportunity is open, but it won't be forever.
Not following HIG (Score:1, Insightful)
What purpose does the GNOME HIG have if nobody cares a shit for it ? On the otherhand it looks like entourage - what an innovation.
for single users, not enterprises (Score:2, Insightful)
Excuse me, Outlook per se is close to useless without Exchange server. Sure, Evolution works fine with IMAP. It even works with LDAP to keep Contacts (although that piece is not fine).
But how about Calendaring and Tasks being stored on the server *AND* processed with the server? In Outlook when I appoint the meeting ti automatically checks if the attendee is busy or not, and it ch checks it on the server - not in my personal folders.
Without groupware-based calendaring Outlook is useless for most of enterprises.
Re:As an Evolution user for about a year... (Score:2, Insightful)
Outlook clone perhaps, but no where near even an Outlook threat. First and foremost is the lack of a Windows version. Second, Evolution merely mimics some of the functionality of Outlook, not all of it and it lacks the same kind of integration that Outlook/Exchange offer medium and large corporations wanting to standardize on an e-mail, calendar and messaging suite can. Call me a troll if you wish but it seems to me that Evolution is only being used by those who would be better served with Thunderbird; sort of like the Outlook users who should really be using Outlook Express.
Feature Request (Score:4, Insightful)
http://www.research.ibm.com/remail/ [ibm.com]
In my opinion, borrowing ideas like that for a groupware/email client would be what distinguishes Evolution from the competition.
Oh, and pretty please make a Winders version for those of us that are stuck here? :)
less like Outlook, strange UI things (Score:5, Insightful)
the version that comes with XD2 seems to have begun a move away from Outlook. and i'm debating in my mind if this is a good thing or not. surely the "switch"-like campaign would favour apps that looked and behaved more like MS apps for the sake of familiarity when moving across to a new environment. obviously the bad side of this is the whole innovation-stiffling argument that if one just mimicks Microsoft behaviour, what benefit other than cost is being added?
anyway, i would be in a better position to speak once actually having given it a test - but the UI on those screenshots seems a lot LESS intuitive than i've seen in previous releases. a few examples:
Calendar [gnome.org]
it may seem obvious to a geek, but what is "Local"? and how does that differ from "On This Computer" in the tasks [gnome.org] screenshot? also, what the heck is the "Component" button at the bottom there? and why do the buttons at the bottom there look so ugle. the ones on Tasks have icons, those don't. basically inconsistent UI.
i understand that this is a dev. release, but it seems silly to me to ignore UI in a odd release while developing the functionality and then maybe coming back to it in the following release. the way a user interacts with software should be considered throughout a development cycle as interaction changes can often lead to large programming changes.
Re:Built-in spam filtering? (Score:2, Insightful)
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Re:Hmm. Time for another trial (Score:2, Insightful)
Because some places don't want every user's entire mail history on the server?
A Nony Mouse
Re:Won't be going anywhere near my systems... (Score:3, Insightful)
Rubbish. That sort of user wouldn't even know the difference. It's all down to presentation. If you can present a bunch of apps so that they work together seamlessly, then the end user may as well think of them as a single app. That's the direction in which we should be heading. But too many people are too eager to clone the mistakes that Microsoft have made instead...