CaminoBrowser.org Launches

Samuel Sidler writes "Introducing CaminoBrowser.org, the new Camino project site. The pages have been completely revamped with up-to-date information, useful and easy-to-read support pages, and, of course, pretty pictures. Months of effort have gone into creating a truly excellent site. While the product pages will remain hosted at mozilla.org, our new website will be the home of the project and all support/development information as well as up-to-date news and information."

Slick

[billybob]

I agree that's a slick looking site. I didnt even know camino was still being developed :P Looking at the screenshots there's lots of improvements since I last saw it (0.7), but on the Mac side, Safari does everything I need. Sorry :P

I mainly use Firefox on Windows anyways (as my main browsing experience). Good to see this baby still in development though. I remember how excited I got back in the 0.1 and 0.2 days everytime a new release came out :)

Re:Slick

[ravidew]

Not being fortunate enough to own a G5, how does Camino stack up against Firefox: is it Firefox for the Mac?

Re:Slick

[Kraeloc]

I would think Firefox would be Firefox for the Mac. It is very nice, though, primarily because it's a lot lighter on the usage of system resources.

Speaking of Gecko Browsers Using Native Widgets...

[FlipmodePlaya]

I recently stumbled upon Kazehakase [freshmeat.net], which uses GTK+ and is available for Linux. It's in many ways a superior Gecko browser for Linux to Firefox, mostly because it avoids the drawbacks of XUL. It has mouse gestures, full text search and thumbnailed history, RSS, better tabbing (drag and drop of them, they can be displayed vertically, etc.), and I believe some sort of benefit for Japanses speakers. Despite their limited development base, I really think Firefox's platform-specific alternatives (including Camino and K-Meleon) are superior to it.

Re:Why?

[dolphinling]

(IIRC) Camino has native widgets. Firefox uses custom ones.

Cool website!

[Anonymous Coward]

Hopefully a new version of Camino will look this cool. I still like Camino most besides Safari, but lately I've been avoiding it because I hate to get attached to a piece of defunct software. Seriously, I thought Camino development was abandoned a while back, since it seems like it's been at 0.82 for friggin' ever. Now I can start using it again!

Why Camino over Firefox? Camino is faster, uses fewer system resources, and has a beautiful Cocoa front end, meaning that it's GUI and widgets are all Aqua goodness. When I use Firefox, I feel like I'm on a Windows box, and that's not why I bought a Mac.

Thanks to all the Camino developers out there, they rock! I wish all the resources that went to Firefox for Mac were concentrated on Camino instead. Downloading a nightly as I type this to see what's up.

Re:Slick

[Clock Nova]

I used Camino until they removed the sidebar feature. I would much rather have my most often used bookmarks on the side of my screen than the way Safari and Camino now do it.

The three minute test...

[lpangelrob2]

I've had Camino 0.8 on my PB for a bit... it's been relegated to my 3rd browser, though. It's not a bad browser by any means.

Camino:
+Nicer tabs
+Better scrolling
+Better integration
-No Mozilla extensions. :-(
-So no way to block Flash or images natively
+Much better preference panel
+Pretty close functionality to Safari.
+Fastest of the three, it seems.

Firefox:
-A little glitchy at times
+Very good extensions support
+Works mostly the same as Firefox on other platforms
-Integration with OSX not so good, nor is it supposed to be.
-Slow at times.

Safari:
+Just works
-No way to block annoying Flash popups

Safari works for most things, Firefox works for the rest, and Camino sort of just ends up out there in case the first two don't work.

Re:Why?

[godless dave]

You imagine wrong. For one thing, dedicating part of the Firefox team to making a native OS X port would take resources away from Firefox. They are two different projects with different goals. Firefox is a multi-platform web browser. Camino is an OS X native web browser. In my case, I use Camino because it is far less likely than Firefox to crash my ancient 400 Mhz G4.

Re:Slick

[revscat]

Looking at the screenshots there's lots of improvements since I last saw it (0.7), but on the Mac side, Safari does everything I need.

My only problem with Safari is that it is so noticeably slower on HTTPS connections. I use a G4 at work, and any time I need to use an HTTPS connection I use Camino because Safari drags so much. It's not so noticeable at home where I have a 1.8GHz G5, but when on slower machines (including my mom's iBook), Safari just drags on secure connections.

Re:Ok, we have clones

[Ilgaz]

Mozilla fanatics will downmod me but, Camino is not a clone. It must be installed/supported/helped instead of Firefox.

Its a native OS X application. If you use Firefox instead, you just have a windows/unix browser on OS X which is 5 years ahead of them.

E.g. Omniweb here, while I write this reply, spell check is in action. It just calls spell check framework of the system.

You wouldn't believe the "services" a mac user uses everyday. For me, a foreigner, its "one click answers" at first place.

Opera does some inventions about the stuff you mention. Their work with IBM will be in cars. A browser which you control purely by voice, voice XML etc.