Firefox 1.1 Boasts New Features 479
Distro Jockey writes "The Fedora Core Blog gives a review of the features we can expect from Firefox 1.1. Many uses have been running the latest trunk builds and seeing dramatic improvements in page rendering, managing many tabs quickly, and the much-anticipated fix for the /. layout bug. From the article: 'One major new feature in Firefox 1.1 is the "Sanitize" feature. This enables secure browsing with much more ease. Select the "Sanitize" option in the preferences and Firefox will scrub your profile of sensitive information (which you select in the preferences).'"
back/forward (Score:5, Informative)
And back/forward can cache the rendered layout instead of having to re-render everything: http://www.mozillazine.org/talkback.html?article=
If it's about what we can expect... (Score:5, Informative)
google maps (Score:1, Informative)
Re:What I'm curious about (Score:5, Informative)
Re:What I'm curious about (Score:5, Informative)
Ridiculous (Score:5, Informative)
Honestly, Firefox 1.1 isn't even in alpha-release yet. To take some highly unstable code and to "preview" it is a bit premature right now. I would call 1.1beta a better time to 'preview' things, as hopefully by then there will be a feature freeze and things will have stabilized a bit. I'm not kidding about the unstable bit either: up until a couple days ago themes and extensions wouldn't install in the nightly builds.
In fact, an article like this does a disservice because it's misleading the
This forums post gives a better idea of the new features to be expected in 1.1 with one line sentences: http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?t=257
Re:What I'm curious about (Score:5, Informative)
While it's true that the "Mem Usage" in task manager can easily show much more memory than the program is actually using, an minimizing a program will make this number drop, the number it drops to is still not the accurate memory usage figure. You really want to go to View/Select Columns and look at VM Size, not Mem Usage.
VM Size is the actual amount of memory the program thinks it has, between whats swapped out and what is actually being used. Mem Usage can be higher than VM Size if memory was freed but not yet flushed by the OS, or it can be lower than VM Size if some memory hasn't been touched in a while and is swapped out to disk. Minimizing an application just gives Windows a hint that it should flush freed memory and swap out pages that have not been touched recently, which is why the Mem Usage figure drops when you do that.
Acid2 (Score:1, Informative)
On a side note, if any FF developer is reading this: make it so that the download manager doesn't popup if you save _images_ (and other content which is already downloaded). Extremely annoying.
Re:Rendering Bug? (Score:4, Informative)
- right click link, "Copy link location"
- paste into URL bar
- press enter
Warning: This is illegal in the United States under the DMCA.The REAL news: Firefox 1.03 remote .exe execution (Score:5, Informative)
wait for the spyware slags get hold of this one
full remote execution of an exe with no user interaction
http://www.securityfocus.com/archive/1/397747/200
catching up with MSIE
Re:What I'm curious about PDF! (Score:2, Informative)
But if I launch Acrobat as a separate program and just have it sitting empty in the taskbar, Firefox goes through PDFs just fine.
A strange bug. A frustrating one. One I hope they catch.
Re:What I'm curious about (Score:3, Informative)
Some good and some bad (Score:5, Informative)
- Back/Forward Cache: Yes! Yes! Yes! This brings Firefox one step closer to the way I feel caching should be done. Back/forward should always pull pages from the cache (ignoring meta expire), and clicking links should always load the page from the server.
- Interface speedups: Great news. I love Firefox's rendering power, but the UI is slow as hell. This should help.
- Rendering errors fixed: More good news. While I can count the amount the number of times I've seen the Slashdot bug on my hands, better rendering is always a good thing.
- Focus follows mouse: One of the best changes. I've had so many issues with the focus not being where it's supposed to be. For example, I'll switch to another window or tab, but the focus is usually still in the old one. If this gets fixed, I'll jump for joy.
- Sanitise: More privacy == A Good Thing.
The Bad:
- Preferences tabs at the top: I hate having tabs at the top--I'd prefer them on the bottom (the sole reason I installed TabBrowser Extensions was to get the browser tabs to appear on the bottom), but I don't mind them on the left side. But having them on top is just horrible. It looks prettier on the left too, especially with my theme, which places an image of a gecko in the background of the left pane. I'm also worried that my theme won't work with 1.1--I've been using an old version of the theme, as the author made a change a while back that uglified the icons, defeating the purpose of the theme (the version I use only uses two colours in the icons...). Officially, my theme only supports up to 0.9, but I've hacked it to allow 1.0 to install it--if 1.1 has any major UI changes like this one, it may cause my theme to choke.
- Live preferences: I hate these things with a passion. I like to be able to dick around in the preferences and not have to worry about screwing something up. It pissed me off to no end back when I used Galeon, and it'll piss me off in Firefox too. But, hey, I can tell that the Firefox devs have an agenda to screw up the preferences dialog as much as possible. They already moved it to the Edit menu a while back (WTF?), they already flipped the OK and Cancel buttons, and now they're adding these shitty changes too. If I wanted to use a browser with Gnome's horrible HIG, I'd use Epiphany.
Re:What I'm curious about (Score:5, Informative)
Re:erm (Score:4, Informative)
Re:What I'm curious about (Score:4, Informative)
Re:Does the status line work properly now? (Score:2, Informative)
Re:MOD PARENT UP (and another suggestion) (Score:5, Informative)
1. Go to about:config
2. Type "referer"
3. Set network.http.sendRefererHeader to 0
Re:Does the status line work properly now? (Score:5, Informative)
I wouldn't call it overwhelming Firefox (nor would I call it overhwelming Firefox). You probably have Firefox set to disable javascript from changing the status bar text. If you enable having javascript change the status bar text in options > web features > Javascript Advanced or if you completely disable javascript, the links show up fine in the status bar.
Fark formats its links like this:It uses onMouseOver to hide the click tracker from the status bar. The appropriate behavior for Firefox would be to show the actual url the link points to when you disable status bar text changing, so it's still broken.
Re:back/forward (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Safari's builtin RSS reader and Firefox (Score:1, Informative)
I also agree that Safari in Tiger is really superb and it's much, much better than Firefox for the stuff I use it for, which is tabbed browsing, popup blocking, intergrated google search and good standards support. I really like the RSS feature, and you can also change it to use a 3rd party app (eg: NetNewsWire) which is handy as the blue RSS icon saves legwork trying to find the RSS or XML icon on the page itself.
The trouble is that Mozilla is always going to be at a real disadvantage in the speed stakes, especially when you consider a) it's biggest competiton comes from the OS developers themselves, who can preload/optimize the kernel at a whim, and b) it was wrote as a full application runtime enviroment instead of just a browser, with much of the XUL stuff being useless with the advent of xmlhttprequest and good DOM support in major browsers.
Kiosk mode (Score:2, Informative)
http://www.mozilla.org/support/firefox/tips [mozilla.org]
https://addons.update.mozilla.org/extensions/show
http://tln.lib.mi.us/~amutch/pro/phoenix/kiosk.ht
http://malektips.com/firefox_0007.html [malektips.com]
Maybe use moz instead
https://addons.update.mozilla.org/extensions/show
You might also want to vote for this:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3341 [mozilla.org]
Enabling Back/Forward Cache Usage (Score:2, Informative)
You can see the full instructions in Chase Phillip's weblog post [mozillazine.org].
Re:Some good and some bad (Score:5, Informative)
Personally I agree with the hate, but not the placement - give them to me on the left or the right, and leave more vertical real estate. But see below.
Live preferences: I hate these things with a passion... They already moved it to the Edit menu a while back (WTF?)
I'd prefer no live prefs, too.
But, the deal here is being consistent. They're trying to make the app work like other apps. So, the theory goes, even if they don't make your personal favorite UI choice, at least you know what it will do.
The Edit->Preferences thing is a long standing Mac standard from the pre-OSX days. Back then, most apps followed it. The strength of the convention was most noticable when you used a Microsoft app, which hung them off of Tools->Options. If you haven't noticed, non-OSX MacOS is where a lot (but obviously not all) of Gnome's UI sensibilities come from.
So, I generally agree with your behavioural preferences, and weirdos like you and me and always dick with the undisplayed options in the config file, fiddle with the chrome, etc.. Meanwhile, everyone else gets consistency. Which is a good thing.
Re:Acid2 (Score:5, Informative)
There's been lots of speculation about which browser will get Acid2 working first. I'd put my money on Safari. The problem is that we're late in the Gecko 1.8/Firefox 1.1 release cycle and there are a couple of bugs that would be quite a lot of work to fix, and introduce significant risk, and they're just not as important as other work that we have long planned for 1.8 and some other strategic work that I'll blog about soon. We will get to it in 1.9.
I'm sure some will seize on this as an opportunity to say "Gecko developers don't care about standards"
Part 2
Use about:config to modify browser.download.manager.showAlertOnComplete
http://mozillazine.org/misc/about:config/ [mozillazine.org]
Re:Mod you up too (Score:1, Informative)
Re:What I'm curious about (Score:2, Informative)
I've been using Opera 8 Beta for several months now, no problems. I have 60 tabs open and it's using about 58MB of memory. It's really great.
For Ad-blocking I use Opera Ad Filter [monroeworld.com] which is donationware and works great! However, you have to separately configure the ad sites to block; FireFox's right-click ad-blocking is much easier to use and wins here.
I've never had any CPU issues with Opera 8, and maybe 2-3 crashes in several months of use, but these kinds of interactions can be very dependant on what your system is running, and that's clearly different from mine.
When it crashes, as the parent said, it maintains the tab list and open sites and gives you the choice to resume from the previous saved session, start a new one or recall any old one. I have several saved sessions with pre-configured tabs that I like to recall when I am doing specific work online. This feature is awesome to me.
Opera 8 has always rendered Slashdot perfectly, unlike FireFox. It even feels faster than firefox, but I admit it's all subjective when feelings come into play. I've never scientifically benchmarked these two browsers.
Opera 8 also has a pretty decent mail and news reader built-in, that auto-learns your mailing lists, contacts and subject threads.
I just wanted to point this out because Opera 8 does not have "a long way to go" as the parent says.
Re:/. bug (Score:5, Informative)
Re:What I'm curious about (Score:3, Informative)
Re:/. bug (Score:3, Informative)
Actually that's not correct, the bug is only triggered when Gecko is in quirks mode. It is a browser bug but it can be avoided by using standard code.
Re:back/forward (Score:2, Informative)
Works great here. Fair enough, it only zooms images one at a time, but isn't that enough?
Re:What I'm curious about (Score:3, Informative)
Two windows, each with 8 open tabs, basically I started on slashdot in one window and randomly hit links for tabs, and started on my homepage in another and did the same.
So, 2 windows, a total of 16 tabs/pages, and task manager says I'm using 43M... Doesn't seem too bad to me...
If I restart firefox, 1 window and 1 tab is 23M, so you can complain about that maybe.