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Interactive Campaigning ala Wiki 172

brettlg writes to tell us LinuxInsider is reporting that Utah Democratic hopeful, Peter Ashdown, is hoping to leverage his knowledge of the internet and small business resourcefulness to take down the incumbent Senator Orrin Hatch next year. From the article: "Peter Ashdown is the founder of Xmission, Utah's oldest Internet service provider (ISP). His Web site includes a blog and a monthly live chat session. But Ashdown's site takes public participation on his campaign Web site one step further -- opening his platform to all. The site is based on the "Wiki" open-source model made famous by Wikipedia."
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Interactive Campaigning ala Wiki

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  • by kamapuaa ( 555446 ) on Wednesday January 04, 2006 @08:32AM (#14391307) Homepage
    The problem with this idea is it's just a magnet for people to tamper with his page - Wiki had to block edits of Bush and Kerry during the 2004 election. There isn't the mechanisms to revert changes and viewers can get a bad impression. Just now, for instance, I noticed that somebody defaced his website by posting a picture of a really geeky-looking white guy.
  • by walterbyrd ( 182728 ) on Wednesday January 04, 2006 @08:48AM (#14391367)
    Remember, msft is the major player in the scox-scam. Msft is financing the entire thing. And remember that msft tried to keep that secret.

    Frankly, when considering it's msft, I wonder if it's possible to be paranoid. Think of all the bizare and brazenly illegal activities that msft can been caught doing: fake grass campaigns - including letters from dead people, faked video evidence in DOJ trial, the entire ODF fiasco in MA. . .

    That said, remember that Hatch's kid works for scox. Also remember that Hatch is on the judicial commitee, which means that Hatch has significant say-so over the careers of the federal judges in Utah.

    Anybody familiar with the scox-scam knows that these judges have been insanely pro-scox from the start. The fact that obvious farce is still going strong after nearly three years speaks volumes. The trials don't even start for another 1.5 years.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 04, 2006 @09:09AM (#14391436)
    From Wikipedia: [wikipedia.org], licensed under GNU FDL [wikipedia.org]:

    The open politics combines traditions of the free software and open content movements with postmoderism, and promotes a decision making method claimed to be a more open, less antagonistic, and more capable of determining what is in the public interest with respect to public policy issues.

    Criteria
    • anyone can participate
    • all participants are equals
    • all actions are transparent
    • all contributions are recorded and preserved
    • all deliberation is structured
    • all content is re/organized by participants on an ongoing basis.
    • partisan behavior is limited by the format and community standards.

    Underlying preferences

    • decentralization of authority: giving the widest and most potent franchise to citizens is thought to minimize what economists call the principal-agent problem, or the tendency for managers to abuse authority.
    • centralization of information: the use of information technology to facilitate communication challenges is key to the practicality of the process.
    • equality of opportunity: anyone can participate in deliberation, with the expectation that people themselves select to participate on issues in which they have the greatest stake, expertise or both. Open politics treats the expert and the citizen as equals, implying that the experts are obliged to convince the citizens directly, rather than using representatives as intermediaries/brokers of policy. This use of peer review is emphasized as the best method to determine what is true or good (with the understanding that this should change over time).
    • encouraging diversity of thought, such that multiple positions and arguments are created, refined and compared; usually the more the better, provided they are succinct.

    Implementation

    These criteria are generally satisfied by a wiki or some other collaborative workspace in which multiple points of view are conveyed and reviewable in "living documents" that reflect, on an ongoing basis, what the community thinks.

    History

    Open Politics grew from earlier work in online deliberation and deliberative democracy, which in turn drew on research in issue-based argument and early hypertext and Computer Supported Cooperative Work research of the early 1980s.

    The 2003-04 Deanspace project is widely considered to be the first serious attempt at Open Politics. It grew into Civicspace and was largely relying on blog and meetup technologies to build some support behind Democratic Party dark horse Howard Dean. It was largely an emergent, unplanned effort. In fact, meetup.com simply applied its ordinary stupid algorithm to a number of members who had listed "Howard Dean" (a mere text string to that algorithm) in their list of interests. It obediently buzz-clicked out a scheduled time for a live "meetup", and open politics history began, with no intelligence being directly involved at all (which some find ironic, and others, fitting).

    The 2004-05 Green Party of Canada Living Platform was a much more planned and designed effort at Open Politics. As it prepared itself for an electoral breakthrough in the 2004 federal election, the Green Party of Canada began to compile citizen, member and expert opinions in preparation of its platform. During the election, it gathered input even from Internet trolls including supporters of other parties, with no major problems: anonymity was respected and comments remained intact if they were within the terms of use at all. Despite, or perhaps because of, its early success, it was derailed by the party's leader, when he discovered that it was a threat to his status as a party boss. The Living Platform split off as another service entirely out of GPC control and eventually evolved into openpolitics.ca [slashdot.org] and

  • by McBeth ( 1724 ) <mcbeth.broggs@org> on Wednesday January 04, 2006 @10:04AM (#14391668) Homepage
    I've met and talked to Orrin Hatch many times, and his daughter-in-law is a good friend, but he needs to go down. He has this strange knack for making the wrong first decision every time. Sometimes someone points it out to him, and he back-pedals (stem-cell research); but by and large, he has consistently made this country a worse place to live in.

    That said, Pete Ashdown isn't the man to do it. See, I've met him on several occasions, and while he is a techie and may get those questions right, he is not a people person. At all. Much like Orrin, he himself is first on the priority list. XMission is a wonderful ISP, and far and away the best available in Utah (I wish someone as good as them existed in Upstate New York), and I thank Pete for that. Stick to tech.
  • by anaesthetica ( 596507 ) on Wednesday January 04, 2006 @10:49AM (#14391933) Homepage Journal
    Newcomer Bets 'Wiki' Open-Source Movement Can Help Win Senate Election

    Yes, just like the open source movement has taken down Microsoft on the desktop.

  • by cschmidt ( 89733 ) <cschmidt&xmission,com> on Wednesday January 04, 2006 @11:04AM (#14392034) Homepage
    XMission is so in-touch with its customers it's unbelievable. This is what you get for free with a normal DSL account ($19/mo):

    • Static IP address
    • SSH access to server space
    • 3 email accounts
    • 100GB/mo bandwidth limit
    • No port lock-downs (i.e. SMTP is open but they run a bot to check for open relays)
    • Commitment to open-source (openssh, horde, exim, etc.)
    • Downloads from XMission's mirror site [xmission.com] don't count against bandwidth limit

    I typically vote Republican and have voted for Hatch in the past but I feel that Pete's attention to his customers (through XMission) will translate to his constituents. I will definitely vote for him this fall.

  • by TheSpoom ( 715771 ) * <{ten.00mrebu} {ta} {todhsals}> on Wednesday January 04, 2006 @11:14AM (#14392128) Homepage Journal
    At first (and subsequent so far) glance, this guy appears to be awesome. He founded Xmission, which was the host of Maddox [xmission.com], an author who I feel would have been censored by other ISPs a long time ago. His policies also appear to be sane, and he seems to genuinely want input from the public (the Wiki goes a long way in my eyes). I would vote for him if I was in his district.
  • by killjoe ( 766577 ) on Wednesday January 04, 2006 @04:09PM (#14394801)
    "Though I do have a hard time believing there was not one fiscally responsible Republican you had an opportunity to vote for the in the past 30 years."

    For president, yes. Not one.

    "Additionally, bearing in mind that most of our current spending can be accounted for in a foreign war,"

    First of all that's bullshit. The war "only" costs 200 billion or so. Secondly the war itself was discretionary spending. There was no reason to invade iraq which was a secular socialist state which opposed religious fundamentalism.

    "do not forget the amount of spending Democratic Presidents Kennedy and Johnson did on Vietnam."

    Once again discretionary spending but in their case they kind of inherited the problem.

    "Also, most economic indicators would also suggest we are doing better than we were at the end of Clinton's second term."

    Yea right, and Iraq is going to join OPEC any day now. Thanks for the laugh though.

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