Nokia Claims Ogg Format is "Proprietary"

a nona maus writes "Several months ago a workgroup of the W3C decided to include Ogg/Theora+Vorbis as the recommended baseline video codec standard for HTML5, against Apple's aggressive protest. Now, Nokia seems to be seeking a reversal of that decision: they have released a position paper calling Ogg 'proprietary' and citing the importance of DRM support. Nokia has historically responded to questions about Ogg on their internet tablets with strange and inconsistent answers, along with hand waving about their legal department. This latest step is enough to really make you wonder what they are really up to."

proprietary.

[sh3l1]

In other news Microsoft is making claim that odt is proprietary.

Re:From Vorbis.com

[Anonymous Coward]

You had any??

Re:Ah, the "Humpty Dumpty" defense

[callmetheraven]

(1) choose open standard/software
(2) have your lawyers claim it as your own
(3) profit!

Unless you're SCO...

Re:Well, isn't it obvious?

[Aehgts]

The engineer's mantra: If it aint broke, fix it till it is.

Re:Nokia: You Just Don't Get It

[TheVelvetFlamebait]

I had a scan through the PDF document, and couldn't really believe what I was reading.

That's because you can't believe anything you read if it's in a proprietary format like PDF! Nokia told me so, in a word document.

Re:Well, isn't it obvious?

[Dark_Gravity]

The fact is MP3 got their first.

Their first what?

The suspense is killing me.

Re:Well, isn't it obvious?

[sjames]

If they MUST have DRM, I have a great win-win solution for them.

They should encode their increadibly valuable content by moving it to the /dev/null 'encoder'. That way, nobody will ever be able to view even a split second of their content without paying and everyone else can be sure that they won't get ripped off with content that won't actually play properly where and when they want it to.

Re:Well, isn't it obvious?

[Coryoth]

They should encode their increadibly valuable content by moving it to the /dev/null 'encoder'. That way, nobody will ever be able to view even a split second of their content without paying

As a side benefit, /dev/null has a truly stunning compression. As long as they use /dev/null they could fit staggering amount of content onto their servers....

Nokia Claims Ogg Format is "Proprietary"

[Dark_Gravity]

Nokia Claims Ogg Format is "Proprietary"

Dear Nokia:

You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

Re:Well, isn't it obvious?

[Anonymous Coward]

Why would I bother downloading anything from their servers then? I have access to the /dev/null server even when my network is down.

Re:Well, isn't it obvious?

[Smidge204]

It's also the only compression method that, when compressing RIAA material, actually improves the quality of the recording!

=Smidge=

Re:Well, isn't it obvious?

[Anonymous Coward]

Just the other day I was compressing Simon and Garfunkel's "The Sounds of Silence" to /dev/null, and it came back much truer to the name than the original.

Re:Well, isn't it obvious?

[Xabraxas]

So /dev/null converted your copy of Sounds of Silence to the acoustic version? Cool.

Re:Well, isn't it obvious?

[BeerCur]

I just downloaded Microsoft's /dev/null decoder, and it's 8 gigs...

Re:Well, isn't it obvious?

[Anonymous Coward]

The engineer's mantra: Spy sapping my sentry!

Re:Time to whip out the STFU gun!

[joto]

Look. It's Ogg Vorbis. Ogg is the container. Vorbis is the format.

I don't care. I've never seen a .vorbis file. All I've ever seen is a .ogg file, .ogg files contain music that plays well on my computer, but unlike .mp3-files, not so well on my mp3-player.

If you can't handle that, if you think it's too geeky, please step away from your computer and smash it to bits, as you're far too stupid to deal with modern technology. Might I suggest a career in waste disposal?

Look, if you can't handle that 99% of the world just doesn't care about containers and codecs, but use the file extension to determine media format, you are seriously lacking in social intelligence, and need to be confined to live in solitude for the rest of your life. May I suggest a career in computers?

Re:Well, isn't it obvious?

[Wiseman1024]

I see Nokia is just another corporation wanting to spike your life with their digital AIDS. No chance in hell of me buying anything from them. I hope they rot and die, like Microsoft and Apple.

Re:Well, isn't it obvious?

[Verte]

Their first ".", which is surprising as MP3 is already 16 years old- but I guess everyone is different.

Re:Well, isn't it obvious?

[Hognoxious]

I tries it with 4'33" by John Cage and I can report that it sounded identical to the original.

Re:Well, isn't it obvious?

[sqldr]

You guys are such sheep. I don't follow the norm, I listen to /dev/random.

Re:Well, isn't it obvious?

[XenoPhage]

Why would I bother downloading anything from their servers then? I have access to the /dev/null server even when my network is down.

Another win for Nokia! No bandwidth requirement, and offline access!!