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LambAndMint writes "In what can only be described as an act of utter desperation to overcome Vista's mostly negative public perception issues, Microsoft has put together an online "Fact or Fiction" quiz about Windows Vista. Every person who submits themselves to Microsoft indoctrination gets a free shirt and the chance to win a $15,000 prize. Some of the supposed 'facts' will make you feel like you're reading a document from an alternate reality. Get ready to get a job as a computer salesman for a mass-market retailer as you go through the quiz."
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Microsoft Battles Vista Perception With Prizes

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  • by csguy314 (559705) on Thursday February 14, 2008 @07:35PM (#22427958) Homepage
    Woohoo! Free shirt!
    • by irby0 (886254) on Thursday February 14, 2008 @07:38PM (#22428018)
      Free shirt for OEM system builders.
      • by Lehk228 (705449)
        what is this arachnology!?


        i want a free shirt, seriously i need some new clothes and free is better than paying.
        • by Brian Gordon (987471) on Thursday February 14, 2008 @07:56PM (#22428252)
          I tried to play it because I'm certainly willing to have half an hour of laughs for a good shirt.. but the "australia" in the URL is scary since they're shipping things, and though I'd have been willing to install some activex control and take the quiz in IE, apparently the SilverLight installer is just some shady .exe.... so no way ~~~~
          • by harry666t (1062422) <[harry666t] [at] [gmail.com]> on Thursday February 14, 2008 @08:41PM (#22428780)
            Would you like to see the questions?

            The first was: you're trying to get a free t-shirt. Cancel or Allow?

          • by Anonymous Coward on Friday February 15, 2008 @06:08AM (#22432218)
            >but the "australia" in the URL is scary since they're shipping things
            Yeah, ya gotta watch out for those Australians shipping things. Why, they might try to slip a kangaroo into the package or something.

            >apparently the SilverLight installer is just some shady .exe.
            As opposed to the rest of the software on your computer that just magically appeared and runs in some otherworldly fashion, I suppose.

            But, my goodness, you're quite the Slashbot - I especially admire the fact that you got modded up for bashing Microsoft when you use Windows on your computer. The hypocrisy here knows no bounds, apparently.

            I know, I know: "You must be new here".
        • by somersault (912633) on Thursday February 14, 2008 @08:14PM (#22428444) Homepage Journal
          Meh.. I don't care if it's free - I'm not going to get one unless they provide access to the source pattern..
          • by Anonymous Coward
            You want the shirt's 'source pattern'?  Here you go.  I ... uhh ... reverse engineered it:

            ####
            ####
            ####
    • by mythosaz (572040) on Thursday February 14, 2008 @07:47PM (#22428148)
      CONDITIONS OF ENTRY

      Instructions on how to enter form part of these Conditions of Entry. By participating in this promotion, entrants agree to be bound by these Conditions of Entry.

      You must be a Local OEM Channel Partner. Definition of a Local OEM channel partner ("partners") includes resellers and System Builders who resell other branded hardware (PCs and Servers) with Microsoft OEM Licenses or who build hardware to sell directly to end customers.

      Entry is only open to Australian residents residing in NSW, VIC, QLD, NT, or SA who are Microsoft OEM Channel Partners. The promotion commences at 09:00am (Sydney time) on Friday 14th December 2007 and closes at 11:59pm (Sydney time) on Friday 14th March 2008 ("Promotional Period"). The Promoter's decision in relation to all aspects of this promotion is final and no correspondence will be entered into.
      • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

        by vikstar (615372)
        Had to install that Silverlight malware before I could read the terms and conditions. Damn, should've just read the /. comments first.
    • by DMoylan (65079)
      no, it looks like you have to install silver light shite. that's way too expensive for my tastes.
    • by coolhaus (186994) <coolhaus@g m a il.com> on Thursday February 14, 2008 @08:01PM (#22428300)
      Woohoo! Free shirt!

      I dropped an "r" or two when I first read that. It made better sense at first, honestly.
      • Re: (Score:3, Funny)

        by plover (150551) *

        Woohoo! Free shirt!

        I dropped an "r" or two when I first read that. It made better sense at first, honestly.

        Fee shirt? I don't think that makes much sense, either.

    • by edwardpickman (965122) on Thursday February 14, 2008 @08:07PM (#22428370)
      Great, a free t-shirt that...

      You have to type in Allow before you can put it on.

      Can only be washed in Microsoft approved detergent

      And isn't compatible with any other clothes I own.

      I'll stick with my plain white open source t-shirt
    • by calebt3 (1098475) on Thursday February 14, 2008 @09:52PM (#22429482)
      It's not free. You are selling your soul.
    • Re: (Score:3, Funny)

      by neonsignal (890658)
      Opened up the quiz page, but all I saw was a black screen (with some funny logo up in the top left corner). Darn, must be that content safety filter...
  • Propaganda (Score:3, Interesting)

    by milsoRgen (1016505) on Thursday February 14, 2008 @07:35PM (#22427962) Homepage

    Microsoft has put together an online "Fact or Fiction" quiz about Windows Vista.
    What's with the all the online based propacation Microsoft is using these days?
    • Re: (Score:3, Funny)

      by CSMatt (1175471)
      I'm assuming that question was rhetorical.
    • Re:Propaganda (Score:4, Insightful)

      by milsoRgen (1016505) on Thursday February 14, 2008 @07:38PM (#22428012) Homepage
      And the actual meat and potatoes of all this would be here [microsoft.com], Silverlight required of course!
      • Re: (Score:2, Insightful)

        by Ynot_82 (1023749)
        Why?

        if you're trying to win people over,
        why restrict the "facts" site to people you've already got (requiring silverlight....)
      • by Divebus (860563) on Thursday February 14, 2008 @07:45PM (#22428126)
        Oh. It's just a way to seed Silverlight. Nevermind.
        • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

          Bingo. that's absolutely correct. It's maddening when I have to hit their site (for work) and I have to click to remove that stupid silverlight full page cover.

          I don't want it, I don't need it, and please, for the love of god, stop mooning me with it.

        • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

          by udippel (562132)
          Oh. It's just a way to seed Silverlight. Nevermind.

          And a bad one.
          Here:
          Black screen. Only. Okay, NoScript pops up. I *allow* Microsoft.com (pun)
          Now the black screen is still black, with a tiny icon on top: Get Silverlight. I *click*.
          A full screen pops up inviting me to download. "Install Microsoft Silverlight now for a
          better Web experience". I click. "Download Silverlight.exe" 'OK'. ... and I'm still waiting ...

          Yes, that's only bad. My browser identifies as "Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; SunOS i86pc; en-US; rv:1.8.1.
      • by matazar (1104563)
        Only for australians?!
        I want a free shirt :(.
        Canadas never get anything.

        Also, vista isn't so bad.
        Don't like it, then don't use it.
        Bitching about it isn't going to make it go away.
        • Bitching about it isn't going to make it go away.
          I dunno, when I'm ranting and bitching to myself while doing my daily web crawl, it sure seems to make my old lady go away pretty quick.
        • Re: (Score:3, Funny)

          Canadas never get anything.

          What are you complaining about? You Canadians have lots of stuff that Australians don't have, like maple syrup and Dave Foley.

          Say, while you're here, I've got a proposition. We'll trade you North Dakota and Michigan's Upper Peninsula for British Columbia. What do you say? OK, we'll throw in this set of steak knives, too.

          * * * * *

          Canadians are just Americans with better haircuts.

      • by milsoRgen (1016505) on Thursday February 14, 2008 @07:49PM (#22428172) Homepage
        Windows Vista sold more copes than any other Microsoft Operating System (including Windows XP) In the first month following launch.
        (Fact) Fiction

        Windows Vista faces significant Compatibility issues with hardware devices.
        Fact (Fiction)

        Windows Vista faces significant issues in terms of integrating with other software applications.
        Fact (Fiction)

        Windows Vista delivers all new levels of security compared to previous Windows operating systems.
        (Fact) Fiction

        Windows Vista is expneisve to deploy and run.
        Fact (Fiction)

        Windows Vista hasn't been popular with businesses.
        Fact (Fiction)

        Windows Vista is unreliable and requires more technical support than Windows XP.
        Fact (Fiction)

        Microsoft has been swift to diagnose and rectify initial issues with Windows Vista.
        (Fact) Fiction

        Windows Vista can help deliver peace of mind for parents in terms of their children's online safety.
        (Fact) Fiction

        Windows Vista won't truly be ready until the first complete Service Pack is released.
        Fact (Fiction)

        Their answers, not mine!
        • by KublaiKhan (522918) on Thursday February 14, 2008 @07:55PM (#22428232) Homepage Journal
          Cheat Sheet, Short form:

          Pick the answer that makes Microsoft look good.

          That sound about right?
        • by Akaihiryuu (786040) on Thursday February 14, 2008 @07:57PM (#22428258)
          Wow...every single one of their "answers" is exactly wrong. I figured they'd toss in at least one or two that were real...but no!
          • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

            by Dunbal (464142)
            Hey, McDonald's is suing a dictionary [wordpress.com] to try to get the definition of "McJob" changed. Corporate types thing they can push everyone around like they push their slaves. So in Microsoft's case, they are betting that the general public is just as greedy and dumb as their company is. Oh yes brainwash me for a shitty T-shirt made by kids in Malaysia and a one in a couple million chance of winning a $15k (retail) "home entertainment system". How about dropping the price of the OS to $30, and selling more copies?
            • by milsoRgen (1016505) on Thursday February 14, 2008 @08:27PM (#22428630) Homepage

              How about dropping the price of the OS to $30, and selling more copies?
              Truth be told they should be selling the ultimate version for $100 bucks, that seems to be the sweet spot. And considering that price point has been used atleast since Ballmer was hawking Windows 1.0 [youtube.com]. We'd still be seeing a price break, once inflation is factored in. Which would be good for us, and they'd be fine. As the are shipping far more copies now than in the past.
            • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

              by Chysn (898420)
              > Hey, McDonald's is suing a dictionary to try to get the definition of "McJob" changed.

              I'm familiar with this story, but followed your link anyway. Where do you get the idea that McDonald's is "suing" anyone?
          • Re: (Score:3, Funny)

            by Sponge Bath (413667)

            No kidding, it's like watching the White House press secretary.

          • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

            by Brian Gordon (987471)
            They're not all total BS. It's sold badly but compatibility is fine- blame Creative and ATI for being lazy and not making drivers on time.. Microsoft is definitely not at fault at all there, and anyway compatibility is fine now. Also (I work part time in Windows support), while Vista doesn't have anything like the massive toolset that developed over XP's unprecedented lifespan, Vista actually does tend to have less crazy things go wrong. I don't know why they're trying to discourage the myth of SP1 not solv
            • by MichaelTheDrummer (1130657) on Thursday February 14, 2008 @08:47PM (#22428848)
              No, you have to look at the wording of the question more carefully:

              Windows Vista won't truly be ready until the first complete Service Pack is released.
              Clearly, this means there will be at least a second service pack before Vista is actually ready! :P
            • by ncc74656 (45571) * <scott@alfter.us> on Thursday February 14, 2008 @11:05PM (#22430102) Homepage Journal

              It's sold badly but compatibility is fine- blame Creative and ATI for being lazy and not making drivers on time.. Microsoft is definitely not at fault at all there, and anyway compatibility is fine now.

              Try telling that to my parents, whose HP printer and scanner won't work with the copy of Vista that was preinstalled on the Dell they bought a few months ago. There's nothing wrong with the hardware, but because the Win2K/XP drivers for those devices won't work with Vista and HP hasn't gotten around to writing Vista drivers for them (and, in the case of their ScanJet 4p, probably never will), they're stuck with some POS Dell all-in-one that should work with Vista, but usually doesn't because of the craptastic drivers that came with it.

              (If there's a silver lining in here, it's that they won't ever buy a Dell again. I tried talking them into buying a Mac, but they wouldn't listen to me. Dad was worried about not being able to open Office files; that there are plenty of apps for the Mac that open Office files (including...um...Office [microsoft.com] itself) didn't appear to register.)

          • Not all wrong... (Score:5, Insightful)

            by Ken_g6 (775014) on Thursday February 14, 2008 @09:56PM (#22429512) Homepage
            This one was right:

            Windows Vista delivers all new levels of security compared to previous Windows operating systems.
            Vista includes new levels of security for the both the MPAA and the RIAA!
        • Windows Vista sold more copes than any other Microsoft Operating System (including Windows XP) In the first month following launch.
          (Fact) Fiction

          Sold more copies of what? XP?

          Windows Vista faces significant Compatibility issues with hardware devices.
          Fact (Fiction)

          It's the hardware devices that have Compatibility issues with Vista.

          Windows Vista faces significant issues in terms of integrating with other software applications.
          Fact (Fiction)

          Similarly, it's the applications which have trouble integrating with Vista.

          Windows Vista delivers all new levels of security compared to previous Windows operating systems.
          (Fact) Fiction

          How low can you go?

          Windows Vista is expneisve to deploy and run.
          Fact (Fiction)

          Compared to the hardware you'll need, the OS is downright cheap!

          Windows Vista hasn't been popular with businesses.
          Fact (Fiction)

          Microsoft is a business, and they certainly like it!

          Windows Vista is unreliable and requires more technical support than Windows XP.
          Fact (Fiction)

          This one's correct, because it is reliable -- reliably slow.

          Microsoft has been swift to diagnose and rectify initial issues with Windows Vista.
          (Fact) Fiction

          Due to the size of these issues, this "rectification" has produced many goatse look-alikes.

          Windows Vista can help deliver peace of mind for parents in terms of their children's online safety.
          (Fact) Fiction

          You can't get in trouble online if the computer doesn't work.

          Windows Vista won't truly be ready until the first complete Service Pack is released.
          Fact (Fiction)

          I'd say it'll take until the second or third.

          Their answers, not mine!

          But the snarky comments are all mine.

        • by Admiral Ag (829695) on Thursday February 14, 2008 @08:36PM (#22428726)
          Ugh... now that's desperate.

          Even though I am usually a pitiless and fanatical member of the Apple Hyper Commando Flame Unit in their Eternal War Against Evil (TM), this has gotten so bad that it is hard for me not to feel a bit sorry for the programmers who wrote Vista. It has to suck when you spend five years on something and pour your heart into it (as many no doubt did), yet poor management turns all your work into that.

          • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

            by milsoRgen (1016505)
            Ain't that the truth, I read a pretty good article that looked into the windows source code that leaked a while back. It appeared to be pretty well written code, and a lot of the comments lead one to believe the programmers were treated fairly well. I think the code that leaked was Win2k stuff, so what's happened since then is anyones guess.
        • by Eskarel (565631) on Thursday February 14, 2008 @08:44PM (#22428826)
          I've been using Vista for a while. So I'll weigh in on those.

          1) Don't know, don't care, the PC market now is vastly different than it was even when XP was released, comparing 1st month sales figures matters to accountands, but up or down don't say much about whether an OS is good or bad. You might possibly be able to compare 1st month non OEM sales, but even that wouldn't make a lot of difference.

          2) I haven't used every piece of hardware on the market, but personally speaking I've experienced more hardware incompatibility on Linux than on Vista. A couple of things didn't work right away, and a couple of things required work arounds, but the same has always been true of my Linux system, and at least Microsoft didn't shaft driver developers simply because they disapprove of the way they license their own product(see the whole GPL export debacle a few years back). Hardware compatibility is really a hardware vendor thing anyway.

          3)I do Integration work for a living and I don't even know what they mean by this one. I don't really want to integrate my OS with applications, I just want them to run. Do they mean that older applications don't take advantage of Aero or something? If you can explain this one to me, I'd be happy to hear it.

          4) The Vista security model is substantially better than the XP security mode, and if we stopped blaming the UAC nags on Microsoft and instead pointed the finger at the lazy software developers who won't right their Windows App code to run in user space instead of as an admin we'd be a lot closer to the truth.

          5) In a business environment deploying an new OS or OS version is expensive, and licensing is rarely the largest portion of that. I suppose if you were running your XP machines with Automatic update on pointing directly at windows update instead of at a SUS server, the activation requirement could be expensive or tedious, but that's a relatively small subsection of businesses really.

          6) Any new version of anything is unpopular with some parts of business, making a major change to the environment is expensive and risky. My company is just upgrading to XP now, so it's relative popularity in business is really only important to accountants.

          7) Haven't really noticed this much, there was a period back last year when they patched it a bit and it got less stable, but aside from the fact that your regular IT people are less familiar with the interface and so it's a bit harder for them to find stuff, it's not been much more difficult for me. In my experience the OS is rarely the cause of support calls anyway. Most issues are with third party apps, spyware, data corruption etc, and 2000 and XP had plenty of wierd it's easier to wipe the system than fix it bugs too.

          8) Matter of opinion really I've never found anyone who believed that a developers response time was quick enough, and as I've not been sitting waiting with baited breath for a patch on Vista yet I can't realy talk about the response time. SP1 is taking a while, but that's a big patch set.

          9) Total garbage, but no more garbage than any other claim by any government, third party vendor, OS manufacturer, or anything else. No content filtering system is effective, and unless you plan on running your home network like a corporate LAN you're not going to stop your kids from looking at what they want to look at, and even then you're not likely to stop them.

          10) If you're not running a bleeding edge environment(which applies to 99% of the corporate world) waiting for a new version of anything to get patched a few times isn't a bad idea. Vista's not worthless pre SP1, but it'll presumably be better post SP1.

          A lot of this quiz is marketing spiel, and I hate market droid speak as much as everyone else, but Vista has been the victim of the greatest FUD campaign I've ever seen for software, so maybe they needed market spiel.

          • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

            4) The Vista security model is substantially better than the XP security mode, and if we stopped blaming the UAC nags on Microsoft and instead pointed the finger at the lazy software developers who won't right their Windows App code to run in user space instead of as an admin we'd be a lot closer to the truth.

            How about also at those lazy Microsoft developers who enabled this behavior?

            But more relevantly, if they were going to break so much compatibility anyway, why not go whole-hog? Wrap the old Win32 API

        • by Tolkien (664315) on Thursday February 14, 2008 @09:26PM (#22429254) Journal

          Their answers, not mine!
          Wow. They got every answer wrong on their own test!
        • Translations: (Score:3, Insightful)

          Windows Vista sold more copes than any other Microsoft Operating System (including Windows XP) In the first month following launch.

          Fact. Translation: We've gotten better at force-feeding upgrades to people. In the past, it was actually possible to buy a computer with the previous version of Windows in that first month.

          Windows Vista faces significant Compatibility issues with hardware devices.

          Fiction. Translation: We consider any hardware that doesn't have a "Works with Vista" sticker on it to be insignif

  • Sheesh. (Score:5, Funny)

    by Divebus (860563) on Thursday February 14, 2008 @07:35PM (#22427968)
    I'm glad they're not running an airline. They'd be in the side of a mountain by now.
    • Re:Sheesh. (Score:5, Funny)

      by csguy314 (559705) on Thursday February 14, 2008 @07:38PM (#22428014) Homepage
      Sure, you make that sound like a bad thing. But for all the people that *live* on the side of the mountain it'd be pretty darn convenient. ...
      Uhh... Don't mind the burning fuselage, it's a feature!
    • No, 100% safe. (Score:4, Insightful)

      by Futurepower(R) (558542) <MJennings.USA@NOT_any_of_THISgmail.com> on Thursday February 14, 2008 @07:59PM (#22428284) Homepage
      If Microsoft Marketing was running an airline, it would be 100% safe! Zero crashes. Because no Microsoft aircraft would work well enough even to taxi on the runway.

      Have you ever talked with Microsoft marketing people? Every day they have to go to work and pretend that they are doing something positive for a company that pretends to sell quality products. They pile fantasies on fantasies. They live in a world of unreality.

      Microsoft marketing people are far scarier than zombies [wikipedia.org]. Zombies have more respect from the universe; they were at one time at least allowed to die.

      Like zombies, MS marketing people also have no will of their own; they are automotons of corporate speak, which is a language that no one understands, including themselves. But they wander the earth undead, believing that they are human, believing that they have jobs.

      Okay, some of this may not be completely true. However, I'm not sure what or how much.
      • Re:No, 100% safe. (Score:4, Insightful)

        by Otter (3800) on Thursday February 14, 2008 @08:18PM (#22428502) Journal
        Okay, some of this may not be completely true. However, I'm not sure what or how much.

        I'll give it a shot:

        • That you've ever met a Microsoft employee, or anyone in the computer industry besides a Best Buy cashier: Fiction
        • That you sincerely think you're impressing us by providing a Wikipedia link to "zombie": Fact
        Do I win a t-shirt?
      • Re:No, 100% safe. (Score:5, Interesting)

        by canuck57 (662392) on Thursday February 14, 2008 @10:24PM (#22429800)

        Have you ever talked with Microsoft marketing people?

        Sure did, and was sharp that day.

        We were at an internal technology presentation, showing off what we do. Being security, we had our BSD, UNIX loggers and appliances on screens for everyone to see. We had a "tail -f syslog" and other logs just a moving every bad event across the screen in real time. Many called it similar to matrix.

        Along comes the CFO and the Microsoft sales guy. And asked me, I haven't seen that before what is it. I said it was OpenBSD firewall logs on the vendor net. He said "OpenBSD what? That isn't an OS, is it? BSD what? Is that LSD?" with a smile (He knew).

        I looked at our CFO and said, OpenBSD, the operating system we use to keep our Microsoft systems from getting wormed, infected and controlled by others. We also use it for firewalls, detection and system login because they cost less, run longer and don't requires the costly hand care to keep them going as does Microsoft Windows. We don't have the staff, software or capital budget for Microsoft.

        Rubbed it right in. My manager heard from the CFO 2 days later, he was impressed and got a second tour with my manager. And a budget increase and authorization to use BSD and open source, in writing to the executive staff.

      • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

        by David Gerard (12369)
        You must read this [simple-talk.com].
    • Re:Sheesh. (Score:5, Funny)

      by Stormwatch (703920) <rodrigogirao@@@hotmail...com> on Thursday February 14, 2008 @08:42PM (#22428796) Homepage
      1990s called, they want their joke back...

      ~ ~ ~ ~ ~

      What if Operating Systems Were Airlines?

      DOS Airlines
      Everybody pushes the airplane until it glides, then they jump on and let the plane coast until it hits the ground again, then they push again jump on again, and so on.

      Windows Air
      The terminal is pretty and colorful, with friendly stewards, easy baggage check and boarding, and a smooth take-off. After about 10 minutes in the air, the plane explodes with no warning whatsoever.

      Windows NT Air
      Just like Windows Air, but costs more, uses much bigger planes, and takes out all the other aircraft within a 40-mile radius when it explodes.

      Mac Airlines
      All the stewards, stewardesses, captains, baggage handlers, and ticket agents look the same, act the same, and talk the same. Every time you ask questions about details, you are told you don't need to know, don't want to know, and would you please return to your seat and watch the movie.

      Unix Airlines
      Each passenger brings a piece of the airplane and a box of tools to the airport. They gather on the tarmac, arguing constantly about what kind of plane they want to build and how to put it together. Eventually, they build several different aircraft, but give them all the same name. Some passengers actually reach their destinations. All passengers believe they got there.

      OS/2 Airlines
      The terminal is almost empty, with only a few prospective passengers milling about. The announcer says that their flight has just departed, wishes them a good flight, though there are no planes on the runway. Airline personnel walk around, apologising profusely to customers in hushed voices, pointing from time to time to the sleek, powerful jets outside the terminal on the field. They tell each passenger how good the real flight will be on these new jets and how much safer it will be than Windows Airlines, but that they will have to wait a little longer for the technicians to finish the flight systems. Once they finally finished you're offered a flight at reduced cost. To board the plane, you have your ticket stamped ten different times by standing in ten different lines. Then you fill our a form showing where you want to sit and whether the plane should look and feel like an ocean liner, a passenger train or a bus. If you succeed in getting on the plane and the plane succeeds in taking off the ground, you have a wonderful trip...except for the time when the rudder and flaps get frozen in position, in which case you will just have time to say your prayers and get in crash position.

      Wings of OS/400
      The airline has bought ancient DC-3s, arguably the best and safest planes that ever flew, and painted "747" on their tails to make them look as if they are fast. The flight attendants, of course, attend to your every need, though the drinks cost $15 a pop. Stupid questions cost $230 per hour, unless you have SupportLine, which requires a first class ticket and membership in the frequent flyer club. Then they cost $500, but your accounting department can call it overhead.

      Mach Airlines
      There is no airplane. The passengers gather and shout for an airplane, then wait and wait and wait and wait. A bunch of people come, each carrying one piece of the plane with them. These people all go out on the runway and put the plane together piece by piece, arguing constantly about what kind of plane they're building. The plane finally takes off, leaving the passengers on the ground waiting and waiting and waiting and waiting. After the plane lands, the pilot telephones the passengers at the departing airport to inform them that they have arrived.

      Newton Airlines
      After buying your ticket 18 months in advance, you finally get to board the plane. Upon boarding the plane you are asked your name. After 6 times, the crew member recognizes your name and then you are allowed to take your seat. As you are getting ready to take your seat, th
    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      by spir0 (319821)
      hey don't laugh. while _they_ may not be running an airline, their software most certainly is. And in time, if M$ get their way, all the _planes_ too.

      then woe betide anyone living on the sides of mountains. the gates foundation will be relocating thousands of tibetan monks.
  • by edwardpickman (965122) on Thursday February 14, 2008 @07:37PM (#22428000)
    is a free upgrade to XP Pro!
  • by Anonymous Coward on Thursday February 14, 2008 @07:38PM (#22428008)
    ...and all I got was this lousy operating system.

    (But the T-Shirt wasn't half bad)
  • Prizes (Score:3, Interesting)

    by buyvalve (1152115) on Thursday February 14, 2008 @07:39PM (#22428036)
    The grand prize includes a multitude of Sony products. *sniff* I can smell the conspiracy theorists from here!
  • What site? (Score:2, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward
    All I can see in Firefox is a notice that says "Get Microsoft Silverlight". I thought it was an ad for Vista... *confused*
  • It'll still come preloaded on almost all non-Apple x86 boxes. Like it or hate it, Microsoft still gets the money and the marketshare statistics.
    • by QuantumRiff (120817) on Thursday February 14, 2008 @07:59PM (#22428278)
      Because the preloading on non-apple x86 customers is only a small piece of the pie. What they really want is large corporations to start rolling it out by the truckload. Major companies don't want to do that, largely because of the perception (whether true or not) that it is a crappy product. Many large companies are flat out telling Dell and HP and their ilk that they will not mass order machines without XP on them, or that they better ensure that they can revert to XP, and still have working drivers and support. Then Dell, HP, and their ilk get mad, because they have to train employees how to troubleshoot problems on model X in two os's, driving their costs up.
      • by QuantumRiff (120817) on Thursday February 14, 2008 @08:06PM (#22428354)
        Sorry to reply to my own post, forgot the second point....


        By not having large corporations move to vista, one of the major incentives for moving to Windows server 2008 is evaporated, meaning a huge financial hit for MS. One of the biggest selling features of 2008, is how well all the new features are supposed to work with vista. Yes, that and server core, and Hyper V.

  • Little slanted (Score:4, Insightful)

    by Protonk (599901) on Thursday February 14, 2008 @07:44PM (#22428110) Homepage
    This is slashdot, but I find myself a little surprised to see this as a headline. Sure, microsoft is giving crap away in order to boost sales of their new lackluster OS. Same story happens in every business. Marketing gets told to go make some sales happen and they often ocme up with things like this. It's not propaganda anymore than any advertising is propaganda. How about we stick to decrying the main and major faults in the OS, rather than poking fun at a common business tactic. It's not like we are short on low hanging fruit.
  • Vista isn't so bad (Score:5, Informative)

    by LM741N (258038) on Thursday February 14, 2008 @07:52PM (#22428202)
    I've got a triple boot laptop: Vista, FreeBSD, OpenBSD. I only ever had one problem with it and it was fixed- the USB subsystem blue screen. Most of my old programs run on it unless they have some funky driver.

    But I customized it so perhaps I just don't see any of the problems. My screen looks like Win2K and all the eye candy and crap is turned off. And I have yet to see any Ultimate Extra that is anything more than a screen background.

    One thing that is useful is to download "Server Tools". With it you get a utility that will make bootable iso DVD's. Otherwise I just make DVD's in FreeBSD.

    Instead of Gates doing the "Wow" thing, he should have just stuck to the features.
    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      by Tom (822)

      Instead of Gates doing the "Wow" thing, he should have just stuck to the features.
      He did. So much that he couldn't let go of them and that's why none of them was actually implemented in Vista.

      Didn't someone post a list a while ago, where it shows that the number of features removed from Longhorn before it became Vista is actually longer than the number that remained?
  • by Fear the Clam (230933) on Thursday February 14, 2008 @07:55PM (#22428234)
    that secretaries listen to that suck so much that they have to give away money every hour to get people to listen.

    Microsoft: The most free money every hour!
  • by Opportunist (166417) on Thursday February 14, 2008 @07:55PM (#22428242)
    This test is interesting enough to clog your system with silverlight.

    [ ] Fact
    [x] Fiction
  • by mugnyte (203225) on Thursday February 14, 2008 @07:56PM (#22428248) Journal

      All of the "facts" are true, and yet Vista is still a slow giant that doesn't play well with others and needs an uber-machine to accomplish basic feats.

      Comon' guys, the market isn't saying these criticisms based on fictional accounts - they bought/used Vista and it sucked as an experience.

      And PLEASE, give up on the Aero-is-cool stuff. You are playing catchup on the desktop - by far. You've simply been in GDI for so long you can't see the irony of cheering about abandoning it now.

      Give your user support offices that "quiz" and listen for laughter.
  • by schickb (629869) on Thursday February 14, 2008 @08:12PM (#22428420)
    I love how the silverlight download [microsoft.com] wants me to run silverlight.exe to install it... on my Linux box. Probably not going to work. How about some better user-agent checking with a message like: "For your own good, please go away. We are only planning to provide half-baked implementations and lip-service to non-Microsoft platforms".
  • Help (Score:5, Insightful)

    by robertjw (728654) on Thursday February 14, 2008 @08:17PM (#22428488) Homepage
    Can somebody help me? I'm trying to complete the quiz, but I'm having trouble installing this sliverlight stuff on my Linux box and getting the site to work under Firefox.

    If I could just finish the quiz I might ditch Slackware and move to Vista!
  • Fun (Score:5, Funny)

    by whitehatlurker (867714) on Thursday February 14, 2008 @08:20PM (#22428524) Journal
    Okay, so I went and installed silverlight to try this out. They won't let you give a "wrong" answer.

    Q: Vista faces significant compatibility issues with hardware devices
    A: Fact!
    MS: Are you 100% sure? We supported 1.4M devices at launch and have doubled that number since then. Are you sure
    YES / NO
    A: YES
    MS: You're wrong WRONG! WRONG! Too stoopid to have a computer TRY AGAIN
    Q: Vista faces significant compatibility issues with hardware devices

    I'm sorry Dave, I can't let you do that.

  • Silverlight (Score:5, Funny)

    by Kamineko (851857) on Thursday February 14, 2008 @08:22PM (#22428564)
    I'm not too familiar with this 'Silverlight'.

    Is it equally devastating to both werewolves and vampires?
  • by Sponge Bath (413667) on Thursday February 14, 2008 @08:28PM (#22428644)

    Where's the CowboyNeal option?

  • Very misleading (Score:4, Interesting)

    by Infonaut (96956) <infonaut@gmail.com> on Thursday February 14, 2008 @09:15PM (#22429166) Homepage Journal

    The Fact or Fiction [microsoft.com] site was put together by Microsoft Australia for "technology professionals" and aims to help Windows tech experts sell Vista to their customers. This is not oriented toward the general public, and frankly it doesn't look "desperate" to me.

    Sure Vista has been a disappointment, but not everything Microsoft does is evidence of this.

  • by sizzzzlerz (714878) on Thursday February 14, 2008 @09:34PM (#22429308)
    Second prize is two copies.
  • by david_craig (892495) on Thursday February 14, 2008 @09:39PM (#22429348) Homepage
    I actually did this a while back (the promotion has been running since December 2007 IIRC). They send both a shirt and a certificate (as a Vista certified salesperson) to whatever name you fill in the form. I did it several times with the names "A Retarded Monkey", "Someone Brain-damaged", etc.

    I have a certificate on my wall that states "This certifies that An Ignorant Buffoon has reached the level of excellence to qualify as a Vista Certified Salesperson".

    (I'm paraphrasing as I'm not in the office at the moment).
  • Holy shit (Score:4, Insightful)

    by Fordiman (689627) <fordiman@gmailGI ... minus herbivore> on Thursday February 14, 2008 @10:01PM (#22429578) Homepage Journal
    Dude, the waft of bullshit coming off that quiz is unbearable. I couldn't get past the first part because I couldn't stop clicking the wrong thing.

    Almost none of the statements on that quiz were 'fact' or 'fiction'; they were mostly opinions that differ based on your needs for a computer.

    Security, for example: Sure, Vista has the 'protect the user from himself by continually asking if he really wants to X' features, but I'd be happier with licensing agreements for bundling in AVG and Spybot, both as low priority scheduled tasks (better integration, of course, but basically the same system I use to keep my friends and clients from calling me every twenty minutes saying they've contracted a virus).

    Compatibility: sure, Vista supports '2.2 million products', but that's still less than what XP supports. Why don't they have a compatibility layer for legacy devices? Is it that damned hard?

    I could go on.

    The point is, if you value intellectual honesty, you can't even pass the first question.
  • by edunbar93 (141167) on Friday February 15, 2008 @02:18AM (#22431126)
    I seem to recall a particularly interesting technique for indoctrination done to prisoners of war in some communist country somewhere, whereby the prisoners would be rewarded (with a better meal, I recall - a big deal when most everyone is malnourished) by competing in a competition to come up with the best communist slogan or advertising campaign, or what have you. The contest would be held on a regular basis too, and so the inmates would compete with ever more ferocity.

    This didn't just turn the winners into good communists (and coming from their enemies in war, that too is a big deal) but *everyone else too*! It was a particularly effective method of indoctrination.

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