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Parallels Desktop For Mac Vs. VMware 195

neilticktin writes "MacTech performed an exhaustive set of benchmarks comparing Parallels Desktop 4 to VMWare Fusion 2 to run Windows on a Mac. To tackle this problem, MacTech undertook a huge benchmarking project starting in December — over 2500 tests by stopwatch. The goal was to see how the recent versions of VMWare Fusion and Parallels Desktop performed on different levels of Mac hardware, using XP, Vista, 64-bit, multi-procs, games, etc. ... As usual, results vary by what's important to you."
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Parallels Desktop For Mac Vs. VMware

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  • Desktop Comparison (Score:5, Informative)

    by TheNinjaroach ( 878876 ) on Wednesday March 04, 2009 @04:40PM (#27068925)
    This is a desktop comparison, VMware ESXi is of the server variety and I assume by the name Citrix XenServer is as well.
  • Re:Citrix? (Score:4, Informative)

    by Lucid 3ntr0py ( 1348103 ) on Wednesday March 04, 2009 @04:41PM (#27068939)
    ESXi is not for 90% of home users. It is built for large scale hosting where VMfusion and Parallels are often used for single client instances.
  • by AKAImBatman ( 238306 ) * <[moc.liamg] [ta] [namtabmiaka]> on Wednesday March 04, 2009 @04:47PM (#27069007) Homepage Journal

    Personally, I prefer VirtualBox [virtualbox.org]. It has all the features you expect of a professional VM (rootless desktop, 3D acceleration, drive passthrough, etc.) but is available for the low-low price of $0.

    The situation looks a bit different if you're going to use it for business purposes, but for home use there is no better option than VirtualBox.

  • Re:free? (Score:5, Informative)

    by 0100010001010011 ( 652467 ) on Wednesday March 04, 2009 @04:51PM (#27069039)

    I would have liked to see Sun's VirtualBox [virtualbox.org]thrown into the mix. I use Fusion and "love" it (as much as one can love having to use Windows), but a free alternative would be nice.

    That being said, I also use Crossover (WINE) for quite a few things (IE6, RegexBuddy) so I don't have to launch a full VM image.

    The article is loading (slowly) through Coral cache [nyud.net]

  • Re:free? (Score:5, Informative)

    by TheRaven64 ( 641858 ) on Wednesday March 04, 2009 @05:07PM (#27069241) Journal
    I switched from Parallels Desktop to VirtualBox and it has one feature which I really like; the ability to run for over a week without causing a kernel panic. This was something the version of Parallels I paid for couldn't do. Apparently they messed up the IPI handling (doing something that was wrong but relatively harmless on the Core 1, and very bad on the Core 2), but the only way of 'fixing' the problem way to buy the next version of the product. Since I don't like paying for bug fixes, I never found out if the new version actually did fix the problem, but there's no way I'd give the company any money after that.

    VirtualBox got off to a slow start. There were some issues for a long while that prevented it from running FreeBSD in guests, but they were fixed with the 2.1.2 release. Now it works very well, and I didn't have to pay anything to go from the old release to the one that actually works (or for the original release, for that matter). The latest version apparently supports 3D on Windows guests, but I don't have a Windows install set up at the moment so I haven't been able to test this.

  • Article is Flawed (Score:1, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 04, 2009 @05:17PM (#27069361)

    FTA:"A few years back, Apple switched the Mac platform from PowerPC to Intel processors. This introduced some interesting opportunities for the Mac, including the ability to run operating systems other than Mac OS X on a Mac"

    Wrong. Linux ran and runs on PowerPC based macs. Do your research please...

  • Re:Uhhh, it does? (Score:5, Informative)

    by AKAImBatman ( 238306 ) * <[moc.liamg] [ta] [namtabmiaka]> on Wednesday March 04, 2009 @05:19PM (#27069377) Homepage Journal

    That's from nearly two years ago. There's now support for hardware accelerated 3D. From section 4.8 of the user manual:

    Starting with version 2.1, the VirtualBox Guest Additions for Windows contain experimental hardware 3D support.

    With this new feature, if an application inside your Windows guest uses 3D features
    through the OpenGL programming interfaces, these will not be emulated in software
    (which is slow), but instead VirtualBox will attempt to use your host's 3D hardware.
    This works for all supported host platforms (Windows, Mac, Linux, Solaris), provided
    that your host operating system can make use of your accelerated 3D hardware in the
    first place.

  • by IANAAC ( 692242 ) on Wednesday March 04, 2009 @05:21PM (#27069403)
    I can't speak for Mac use, but I've used Linux pretty much full time for the last few years. I am a freelance translator, and have, for the most part, been able to function fine without any Microsoft products. There is one program that is fairly industry-standard though: Trados. It only runs on Windows. There *ARE* viable alternatives, however, agencies insist on assigning/receiving projects in that format.

    It sucks that I am sometimes forced to use it, but I lose a sale if I don't.

    That's my reasoning for needing a Windows instance, and I bet my situation is not that uncommon.

  • by shitzu ( 931108 ) on Wednesday March 04, 2009 @05:41PM (#27069781)

    The idea is to compare virtualization solutions running on Mac OSX. VMWare ESX does NOT run on OSX.

  • Re:Citrix? (Score:3, Informative)

    by jonbryce ( 703250 ) on Wednesday March 04, 2009 @05:44PM (#27069819) Homepage

    If you want to play DirectX games, you are probably best using Boot Camp, or finding a native version of the game. Neither Parallels nor VMWare will reliably support anything later than DirectX 8, most recent games, certainly anything where performance is an issue, requires DirectX 9.

    I use Parallels to run MS Access and Visio - there is no native versions of either of these for Mac, and a few accounting programs that are Windows only.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 04, 2009 @06:09PM (#27070185)

    From Fusion EULA:

    You may use the Software to conduct internal performance testing and benchmarking studies, the results of which you (and not unauthorized third parties) may publish or publicly disseminate; provided that VMware has reviewed and approved of the methodology, assumptions and other parameters of the study. Please contact VMware at benchmark@vmware.com to request such review.

  • by ganhawk ( 703420 ) on Wednesday March 04, 2009 @06:11PM (#27070211)

    Wrong! VMware only wants to review the methodology and approve it. You do not have to get the results approved.

    From register.vmware.com/content/eula.html

    "you (and not unauthorized third parties) may publish or publicly disseminate; provided that VMware has reviewed and approved of the methodology, assumptions and other parameters of the study. Please contact VMware at benchmark@vmware.com to request such review."

  • by IANAAC ( 692242 ) on Wednesday March 04, 2009 @06:33PM (#27070541)

    Setting the same thing up in Linux is practically impossible, don't ask me to use Wine. And UI stuff in Linux are generally slower. And having to edit config files in vim or help debug things in the console too many times for what supposedly is working, or should be done in a GUI, isn't fun. Now, let's see Mac:

    You probably have not used Linux in a long time. You don't have to edit config files as you describe anymore. There are many GUI tools available, depending on your distribution.

    Also, everything you list for your Mac setup is easily doable and freely available on a Linux setup, with the exception of Quicktime. And there are plenty of us who think Quicktime is a steaming pile, so we use other, more accessible formats.

    Just sayin'.

  • by neilticktin ( 660748 ) on Wednesday March 04, 2009 @07:19PM (#27071139) Journal
    Sorry all for the slowness this morning. Turns out that OpenAds was struggling with the load from being slashdotted. Once we figured that out, everything is loading much better now. Thanks for your patience. Neil Ticktin Publisher/Editor-in-Chief MacTech Magazine
  • by neilticktin ( 660748 ) on Wednesday March 04, 2009 @07:38PM (#27071373) Journal
    Damn ... you caught us! (Love the IIS comment). Actually, the banner ad system got crushed by SlashDot. Once we took OpenAds out of the picture, all went well. Try it again now. http://www.mactech.com/articles/mactech/Vol.25/25.04/VMBenchmarks/ [mactech.com]
  • Re:'Fusion' ne 'ESX' (Score:3, Informative)

    by Techman83 ( 949264 ) on Wednesday March 04, 2009 @10:40PM (#27073109)
    I have an ESXi box at home, which I use for my own personal Dev and it's handy to have a good play on it, rather then learning on our production setup.

    My biggest gripe is the removal of anything Linux'y, as with white box hardware it becomes harder to use cheaper gear as none of it plug's in to ESX. eg Cheap UPS's and Raid Cards (ie the HP/Adaptec 2610SA). Aside from that, Tyan Board and Raid Card -> 20mins to fully installed VMware ESXi environment.
  • Re:free? (Score:3, Informative)

    by Jesus_666 ( 702802 ) on Thursday March 05, 2009 @07:33AM (#27075633)
    Little tip: VMWare often has education offers at least in Germany. Right now they offer a "CeBIT special" VMWare 2 Education license over Unimall for 35 Euros (~44 USD) and in the past I've seen Fusion bundled with MBPs sold via Unimall. If you are a student you might do well to look up if there's a comparable offer in your country. Almost half the price off is a pretty good deal.

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