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Vint Cerf Imagines the Net's Future At NASA 67

destinyland writes "Vint Cerf performed an hour-long Q&A at NASA for their 'Singularity University' (which is partially funded by Google ). A question about Twitter led Cerf to imagine even more useful micro-applications using the wireless internet and cell phones, including real-time health data and checking your location against a map of known biohazards and disease outbreaks. 'These systems have applications which I think we will discover over time,' Cerf says, adding 'For me, the exciting thing to just anticipate, are the new ideas for using these instruments.' Also speaking were Ray Kurzweil and nanotechnology expert Ray Merkle. (Read an interview with SU co-founder Peter Diamandis in the new issue of H+ magazine)."
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Vint Cerf Imagines the Net's Future At NASA

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  • Re:Imagine (Score:4, Insightful)

    by CrimsonAvenger ( 580665 ) on Thursday July 09, 2009 @11:19AM (#28637189)

    Imagine having advice hooked up that could monitor for a heart attack or a stroke.

    Imagine having a device hookedup that could monitor basically everything about you, and report it in real time to the government. Or anyone else that you might not like knowing everything about you.

    In the ideal, this could be really incredibly useful. In actual practice, it sounds like the worst nightmare of basically anyone who wants privacy of any kind.

  • Re:Imagine (Score:5, Insightful)

    by MyLongNickName ( 822545 ) on Thursday July 09, 2009 @11:30AM (#28637343) Journal

    When I wrote the original post, I knew this would be the first response (outside of a goofy troll, I was right). Basically, every advance has the potential to be used for evil purposes. It is up to us as a society to stand up against that. That has nothing to do with the technology itself.

  • Re:Imagine (Score:3, Insightful)

    by causality ( 777677 ) on Thursday July 09, 2009 @11:31AM (#28637353)

    Imagine having advice hooked up that could monitor for a heart attack or a stroke. If detected, emergency could be called automatically. If reliable, what would this do for survival rates? In many cases, survival or simply the degree of damage is determined by how quickly treatment begins. I think something like this, if reliable and unobtrusive, would be a major leap forward for health treatment.

    You do know that tyranny and the invasion of privacy is always "for the good of the land," right? I'm going to engate in some speculation here, something you might call a plausible scenario.

    The problem is that if this health monitor becomes available and reasonably cheap, it will probably become difficult to obtain health insurance without it. The stated reason will be cost. So, in that way it's going to be required of everyone whether or not they care about the privacy aspects. I find that scenario a little too likely. That probable lack of voluntary, opt-in-only participation is one of your first clues that you are dealing with something the goals of which deviate from its stated purpose.

  • Re:Imagine (Score:3, Insightful)

    by MyLongNickName ( 822545 ) on Thursday July 09, 2009 @11:40AM (#28637481) Journal

    Hi,

    The solution to the problem you bring up is to deal with the problem, not the technology that brings the problem to a head. If we have a problem with health care in this country, then deal with the issue. Don't go "ABC is a bad technology and should not be pursued". That is foolish. There is a potential for real health benefit. Don't throw it out because it is easier to do so that to actually deal with the problem.

  • Re:Imagine (Score:4, Insightful)

    by causality ( 777677 ) on Thursday July 09, 2009 @12:00PM (#28637743)

    That could be an early possibility. This technology could also be used to monitor your body in real-time, ensuring that you are staying healthy. This would allow for prevention of heart attacks and strokes, instead of allowing for fast treatment after the problems occur.

    I am not a doctor of any kind so this obviously is not a medical opinion. I am just saying what I believe to be common sense. This is one of those where I say "I have karma to burn." I don't expect it will be well-received because people who don't take responsibility for their well-being really seem to hate being reminded that they can. They regard you as something of a religious infidel for thinking that people aren't nearly so helpless as they tend to believe.

    If I were worried about my health, I would eat mostly fruits and vegetables with some meat, I would exercise regularly, and I would learn how to handle problems without being stressed out by them (it's amazing how important that one is). If I were fat, I would work hard and do something about it until I were no longer fat. If I smoked, I would take steps to quit. Every day I would take a moment to really enjoy the hell out of something, even if it's some small thing. I would do all of those things, and then and only then, would I go to the medical system to resolve any remaining issues.

    I see the obesity statistics and things of that nature. I go outside and I see some very heavy people everywhere. Most of them aren't doing anything about it; they are too busy trying to be "accepted" for it. Then I see all of the problems that folks with that lifestyle have to deal with, all the suffering they tend to have later in life, and I think of one word: "preventable."

    I don't want real-time health monitoring devices. I want a society that can achieve a basic level of well-being without them.

  • Re:Imagine (Score:1, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 09, 2009 @12:31PM (#28638113)

    If I am having a heart attack I don't care about my privacy. I am Peter help me.

  • Re:Seriously? (Score:3, Insightful)

    by Amouth ( 879122 ) on Thursday July 09, 2009 @12:32PM (#28638131)

    while agree the algorithm is easy.. but..

    have you ever read electronic medical records? have you ever seen how these people input data?

    the amazing programmer is the one that designs the system that gets them to input it right

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