Windows 7 Pre-Orders Top Vista's In Just 8 Hours 279
Barence writes "In order to ensure Windows 7 got off to a better start than Vista in the UK, Microsoft slashed the cost of Home and Home Professional by a third on promotional copies which were sold on a 'first come, first served basis while stocks last.' The promotion ensured Windows 7 shot to the top of Amazon's charts when it was released yesterday, with the online retailer claiming that 'sales in the first eight hours outstripped those of Windows Vista's entire 17-week pre-order period.' The price of pre-ordering Windows 7 has now shot up to £80, after the £50 copies sold out within a day."
Preordering Windows? (Score:3, Funny)
Re:Preordering Windows? (Score:5, Funny)
Can't wait for a 192KHz, 7.1 surround tada.wma
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Uhm, I guess someone should tell you this before you get your hopes up too high, you can't really hear 192KHz (and very few speaker and amplifiers can even go that high). I'm afraid to have to do with the old tada.wma. ;p
There's a difference between "sounds" at a frequency of 192KHz and sounds that are within the range of human hearing which just happen to be sampled 192,000 times per second.
Just 7? (Score:5, Funny)
"Windows 7 Pre-Orders Top Vista's In Just 8hrs" - So Vista only had 6 pre-orders?
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(Also surely this Microsoft & Amazon PR stunt is actually the opposite of success?
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(Also surely this Microsoft & Amazon PR stunt is actually the opposite of success? ... Because if any company released a truly desirable product people would be willing to pay a premium to own that product. Yet Microsoft & Amazon are trying to claim success by reducing its price... (talk about lies, damned lies and PR)).
First off, EVERYONE was running a sale on the upgrade. That was a Microsoft offer, not Amazon's. Just like getting a laptop with Vista now, will earn you a free upgrade.
Business drop the price all the time to see if they can sell more items. They make less of a profit per item, but make up for that in quanity. Very useful in the software business where the materials involved (disc and packaging) in the product cost pennies.
NO ONE is willing to pay a premium for something in this economy that's not a NEED. S
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Microsoft and Amazon are using smart marketing tactics. they want profits. And so they want a large number of sales. To do that they need visibility and hype. By offering a temporary price promotion, they get hype (wow, everybody's buying it!), and visibility from being pushed to the top of the Amazon charts. Marketing should have made some guesswork at the number of increased sales that will result from the initial discount. If they were smart, the cost of the discount is less than the net from increased
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Huh. They wish.
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Can't say I'm surprised.... (Score:2, Interesting)
It's not too expensive, it's a great piece of software, and the best OS Microsoft has put out yet.
Say what you will about Linux or OSX, but I honestly think that Windows 7 is going to have a good future.
Re:Can't say I'm surprised.... (Score:5, Insightful)
No, I would have to say that Windows 7 is still overpriced. Without it being able to be pirated or sold at a reasonable price it will never have the share that XP does.
XP is Windows 7 competition, not Linux or OSX.
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I never compared Linux or OSX as the competition for 7, I just mentioned them in passing, since they are spoken of in rather complimentary terms, I think Windows 7 will also be as the future comes around.
XP took 7 or 8 years to have the share that it has. Windows 7 in that amount of time may have a similar share. My outlook is favorable to Windows 7, and that's pretty much all I was saying.
Way to miss the forest for the trees.
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And my comment is that its up to Microsoft to price Windows 7 appropriately or otherwise it will sit on the shelf while people pirate XP.
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I don't know the numbers, but I would really venture to guess that the vast bulk of Windows sales occur at the OEM level, and that people who go out and buy upgrades for old computers are a small minority. If my guess is right, it doesn't really matter too much what Microsoft prices Windows 7 at.
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No, I would have to say that Windows 7 is still overpriced. Without it being able to be pirated or sold at a reasonable price it will never have the share that XP does.
XP is Windows 7 competition, not Linux or OSX.
XP is also going to be sold less and less, especially since Windows 7 is far more capable on netbooks than Vista. MS will simply stop licensing XP and let time do the rest.
Re:Can't say I'm surprised.... (Score:4, Insightful)
A $200 OS for a $400 computer is "not too expensive?" What planet do you live on?
Great piece of software? That remains to be seen, and depends on your definition of "great". Kind of meaningless marketspeak if you ask me. What makes it so great?
Best OS Microsoft has put out? Probably.
Re:Can't say I'm surprised.... (Score:4, Insightful)
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It's not the "best OS Microsoft has put out yet". That's making room for previous versions being worth half a shit at their release.
Windows 7 is the only Microsoft OS that is not only markedly better than its predecessor but is the only release they've made where there is not something immediately noticeable as "broken for unknown reasons". That's a pretty big accomplishment for them!
Meh. Maybe I should just not post this comment. I'd forgotten about the "Windows XP Compatibility Mode" feature. That's inexp
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Windows 7 is the only Microsoft OS that is not only markedly better than its predecessor
The Dos + Win 3.11 -> Win95 transition probably counts. That was the biggest step I can think of.
However, there's nothing wrong with incremental upgrades, in fact they are rather good. So long as they are released frequently and cheaply enough. Neither of which is something Microsoft does.
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Great? Great? Windows 7 is better than Vista, that's it's only claim to fame. It's far from "great".
and the best OS Microsoft has put out yet.
Pure opinion and far from the opinion of most people. XP, while not perfect by a long shot, is still the best OS MS has managed to come up with.
The only reason Win 7 will eventually have a majority share is because Microsoft will stop selling and supporting XP and will only sell Win7. Through simple hardw
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Re:Can't say I'm surprised.... (Score:5, Informative)
Because Slashdot has an inherent Microsoft bias, and since I work with *nix systems on a relative level that I do with Windows systems, I find much of the FUD here to be ridiculous and that of uneducated users of the Windows platform.
Read some other comments of mine, I've talked about the Click n Run technology Linux was supposed to debut that I thought was great, and other things as well -- just in recent history I suppose they've been more MS centric but then again, Windows 7 finally got me excited about Microsoft OSes again. Server 2008 did also.
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Windows 7 finally got me excited about Microsoft OSes again.
You know, I've seen this phrase pop up from a lot of people, I'm sure only some of them all shills. Your OS shouldn't be exciting, it's just a platform to launch a tool on, and those tools are increasingly more platform-agnostic.
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Re:Can't say I'm surprised.... (Score:4, Insightful)
Try powershell for your CLI stuff. Works wonders, we automate our entire infrastructure with it.
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Re:Can't say I'm surprised.... (Score:4, Funny)
Or, maybe he's a pleased and enthusiastic Microsoft customer.
Wait.... I think I saw this one on MythBusters :)
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Where the hell do I get an astroturfing job? My employer's paying me to sit at my desk and troll Slashdot anyway...I might as well make it official.
What's so exciting... (Score:3, Insightful)
about a new operating system these days. DRM? The idea of paying a wad of cash for something that one already has but for something slightly newer that's had a facelift?
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He said *improved* security. Linux is fairly stable, security-wise.
Every other OS stinks (Score:5, Interesting)
Someone I was talking to the other day made a good point. Every other OS Microsoft has put out in the last 10 - 15 years or so has sucked.
Win7 = TBD - Looking good as of now
Vista = Horrible
XP = Pretty Good
ME = Rancid
2000 = Not Bad
NT 4 = Not Bad, but severely limited
Re:Every other OS stinks (Score:4, Insightful)
Win7 = TBD - Looking good as of now
Vista = Bad
XP = Pretty Good
ME = Rancid
2000 = Pretty Good.
NT 4 = Good.
BOB = OMGWTF?
Vista isn't horrible. It has some issue that can be solved by turing off some features. SHould the user ahve to tunr off features to stop getting apop up, and having there disk grind all that time? no. Other then that thee only crashes I have seen ahve been due to hardware problems. Something that can impact ANY OS.
IT is getting harder and harder to rag on MS for OS performance. There are business and philosophical issues.
Are there technically better OS's? Yes, but that doesn't matter. While they are technically better, the difference doesn't really add much value to the home consumer. You see it in large scale systems, becasue the cost begins to become very apparent, pretty quickly. I ahve said this many time, the killer app for Linux is wide scale desktop business adoption.
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NT4 was fucking miserable and to think anything else is serious nostalgia.
There were multiple world-destroying service packs. NT 3.51 with the Windows 98 shell grafted onto it was probably twice as responsive. Memory spaces which were separate in NT 3.51 were merged in NT4 to improve performance, with disastrous results in the realm of reliability. And compatibility with other versions of Windows is probably the worst ever (backwards or forwards) if you set aside WinME's inability to run DOS software... not
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Because for the simple reason: the cars the other people are putting out don't do what I need. Some don't have climate control, some are hobbyist cars. Some won't work with the roads I need to drive down. Some require me to buy a new garage to keep it in.
I want a car that'll work on the roads I need, with the features I know I need, and can be kept where I already have a place to keep my car.
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"Vista isn't horrible. It has some issue that can be solved by turing off some features. "
And yet, so many Microsoft trolls rag continuously on Linux for that sort of thing. The business with DOS prompts and CLI has been pretty much overcome, both in the Windows world and in the Linux world. It is entirely possible to run either one without ever typing a single command. But, still, Linux is ragged on because people need to configure things.
So, for those who bitch and moan about Linux, it seems that Vista
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Vista isn't horrible. It has some issue that can be solved by turing off some features. SHould the user ahve to tunr off features to stop getting apop up, and having there disk grind all that time? no. Other then that thee only crashes I have seen ahve been due to hardware problems. Something that can impact ANY OS.
IT is getting harder and harder to rag on MS for OS performance. There are business and philosophical issues.
Are there technically better OS's? Yes, but that doesn't matter. While they are technically better, the difference doesn't really add much value to the home consumer. You see it in large scale systems, becasue the cost begins to become very apparent, pretty quickly. I ahve said this many time, the killer app for Linux is wide scale desktop business adoption.
Also, the spell checker appears to suck quite badly.
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SHould the user ahve to tunr off features to stop getting apop up, and having there disk grind all that time? no.
The user doesn't have to do that. If the user just leaves the system alone, the user will find that it settles down. A user will then rarely see a UAC prompt and the user's disk won't be thrashing. It's usually when the user starts mucking around with the system that the user finds that the user's system is behaving poorly.
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An odd list. Why include NT4 but not NT3.5 or Server2003 or Server2008 or Server2008R2? Why include ME but not Win98 or Win95?
Same sort of selective list shows that every other integer is divisible by 3:
2 - not divisible
3 - divisible by 3
5 - not divisible
6 - divisible by 3
7 - not divisible
8 - looks a bit like two "3"s facing each other
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You can improve on that list quiet a bit; based on my experience, it goes like this:
NT4: short of being terribly stable, it was a suitable and functional desktop OS for PCs in a corporate/business environment.
3.1: great if you only ran office apps by themselves, but useless if you needed networking and/or
95: a drastic improvement over its predecessors in many ways, but still suffered horribly from the whole "need to go to DOS to actually use all 8Mb of RAM" problems. Severe hardware limitations for about 1+
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What is so horrible about Vista?
Because it's from Micro$oft!!! Duh.
Well, I'm sure everyone is comforted... (Score:2)
Currys (Score:2)
... are still advertising it for £44.99.
It's very possible that they're just being retarded and will later say "sorry, you were too late, order cancelled" but it's worth a go.
Price Gouging (Score:2)
There is no cheaper upgrade version of Windows 7 in Europe. So, for Win7 Home Premium, it's either pay £50 now or ... three times that much later on.
It seems that £50 is what people are willing to pay for a decent OS. More than willing to pay. Which suggests that the OS is overpriced and that if some form of competition were introduced, the price would plummet and MS would be unable to sell their new shiny OS for 150 clams without falling victim to that competition (assuming no dirty
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It is overpriced. Vista was a horrible dead horse. Essentially a dead horse with lipstick. I have 3 machines with Vista on it. I have 10 machines with Linux and about 8 with XP. The linux boxes run more stably and are more customizable. I can change the look with little effort. Software is easy to install.
Vista is horrible. I spend my days as a small business owner supporting Windows based products. I make my income off it. I spend a good deal of that time (about 90% of it) cleaning computers of m
while stocks last? (Score:5, Insightful)
Is there a shortage of electrons?
Re:while stocks last? (Score:4, Funny)
I don't think so. A shortage of electrons? That's the most absur
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No shortage of electrons, just a shortage of sanity from the MS sales/marketing department.
(Anyone who has worked with MS sales/marketing should not be surprised.)
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Is there a shortage of electrons?
No, they have a surplus of electrons, so they can't make enough 0's.
It wasn't because of the price... (Score:2, Funny)
Headline Translation: (Score:2, Insightful)
Man I hate Windows! Oohhh I bet Windows will solve that problem!
It is just Vista SP X (Score:3, Interesting)
... and people are acting crazy. When I used vista, I have absolute no problem with it, so I don't understand what with the Windows 7 hype. From what I have heard, it is just Vista with the retarded parts removed.
But I have no reason to care about Windows world anymore, switched to Linux half a year ago and now I am a happy Linux user :) There may never be an year of Linux or its market will never go past 10%, but I can use it comfortably now, so it is fine with me.
Switched to Linux too (Score:2)
it was in 2002 when I decided to move away from windows xp which was crashing all the time to Debian GNU/Linux Sid. I will never go back.
Maybe Debian is not the easiest distribution for the home user but Ubuntu is quite easy to install and use, and there are many other distros.
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I use Vista right now, and it's fairly stable, but it's a little slow, even after I had to turn all the retarded parts off.
What I find strange is that the people that use MS software out of choice continually put up with and reward a company that regularly bends them over a barrel and gives them downright awful or just mostly awful software with every other release.
Re:It is just Vista SP X (Score:4, Interesting)
"When I used vista, I have absolute no problem with it"
Obviously, you ran Vista on a recent high powered machine, with super graphics. Unfortunately, as part of the marketing hype, Vista was sold on new machines that were seriously underpowered, with crumby onboard graphics. So, even on expensive new machines, businesses and consumers found that Vista sucked. Win7, however, rocks along nicely on almost any machine with a CPU over 1 Ghz. You may or may not be able to use the Aero features, but it runs stable, and performance is decent.
I have found that Vista sucked even harder in virtual machines - but Win7 is perfectly happy inside a virtual machine.
I just don't know how else to spell it out. Vista was a terribly expensive mistake, and in today's economy, few people or businesses can afford expensive mistakes.
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Well, Windows 7 eliminates the choice between XP and Vista by giving us the best of both worlds and with a price cut on top, what's *not* to like?
Sure, I use Linux as my main desktop and have been for the past 6-7 years, but I like PC gaming so I still need a Windows install somewhere and 7 is the best there is for that purpose.
So what does this really prove... (Score:4, Insightful)
...except that we've had ample time to critique and review both Vista and Windows 7, and the general conclusion is that what we know about Vista NOW is completely different from what we knew about Vista when it was first released. And the general knowledge about Windows 7 is much more positive than current perceptions about Vista
Hmmm. What was that about hindsight...?
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hind sight is a lying bitch.
Surprise! (Score:3, Interesting)
Make a good product and people might actually be willing to give you money for it
Imagine a world where businesses actually made their products better to get sales rather than skimming quality to reduce margins for more profit
Devoted Macintosh user forced to use XP by day (Score:2)
My adult life has primarily been spent using various permutations of Apple's Macintosh computers for fun and (quite often) for profit and (always) to further my artistic goals. By day for the past couple of years though, I'm usually forced to interact with a Windows PC running the latest flavour of Win XP.
I really can't imagine why I would ever want to upgrade that PC and why oh why I would ever need anything more than Word/Excel/PPT 2003 on Windows. I really don't. I'm a geek and believe in giving Windows
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"I would really love to see Microsoft innovate something that would make interacting with these boxes more pleasing, the manipulation of complex information more straightforward"
See, that would allow people to use an OS and office suite other than the ones that Microsoft provides, and they sure as hell don't want that. I'd love to see it happen too, but I'd also love to have someone randomly give me a million dollars. I firmly expect that neither will ever happen, unless they're forced to do it.
BOHICA! (Score:2, Interesting)
Bend Over, Here It Comes Again!
Seriously, Win7 just feels like a lot of good press wrapped around Vista to me. That being said, I'm using it at work already (but I was using Vista pre-SP1 too).
I'm -not- going to enjoy trying to hold-off users from self-deploying this until we're ready to support it. Even with the lead time, there are lots of bits and pieces that wouldn't fit in our environment, and there are far too many 'flavors', especially with the 32 and 64 bit editions for me to handle.
Still waiting for a reason to upgrade to XP ... (Score:2)
While I do run Windows XP, since my computer came with it, I recently realised that virtually all of my software will run under Windows 2000. In the few cases where XP is necessary, it is usually possible to use the prior version of the software and pretty much accomplish the same task.
So what did I do: I dumped some money into acquiring VMware Workstation and some older copies of Windows. The system allows me to create separate virtual machines for separate tasks, thus allowing me to avoid (or at least i
Upgrade Path... (Score:5, Funny)
Microsoft:
YOU ARE ATTEMPTING TO UPGRADE WINDOWS VISTA, ARE YOU SURE YOU WANT TO CONTINUE?
Yes.
ARE YOU REALLY SURE?
Yes.
ARE YOU REALLY REALLY SURE?
*****yes!******
OK, THEN. JUST SO YOU KNOW, WE'RE REQUIRED TO ASK YOU THAT NOW. IT'S ALL YOUR FAULT FOR BEING A PICKY CONSUMER AND SUPPORTING THAT WHOLE "ANTI-TRUST" NONSENSE. INGRATE.
Just get on with it.
ATTEMPTING TO INSTALL WINDOWS 7. FIRST WE NEED TO CHECK YOUR SYSTEM FOR COMPATIBILITY. THIS COULD TAKE SEVERAL DAYS.
Groan.
THE INSTALL PROGRAM HAS DETECTED SEVERAL POSSIBLE PROBLEMS AND WILL NOT LET YOU INSTALL 7.
Problems? What problems?
THE VIDEO CARD YOU ARE USING APPARENTLY DOES NOT WORK WITH THE MOTHERBOARD.
But I'm using it at this very moment.
THAT IS IRRELEVANT.
But if the video card isn't working with the mother board then I can't very well see this warning message telling me that the video card wasn't...
DO NOT ATTEMPT TO FOOL ME WITH LOGIC, I AM A MICROSOFT PRODUCT. LOGIC DOES NOT WORK ON ME. I HAVE ALSO FOUND THE FOLLOWING MINOR ERRORS: WINDOWS 7 IS INCOMPATIBLE WITH THE FOLLOWING HARDWARE - MONITOR, KEYBOARD, MEMORY CHIPS, MOTHERBOARD BIOS, WEB CAM, SCANNER, SOUND CARD, USB CONTROLLER, CD/R DRIVE, MICROPHONE, AND FLIGHT STICK.
All that?
YES. AND THE HARD DRIVE IS RIGHT OUT TOO. WE DON'T LIKE THE MANUFACTURER.
Well what *DOES* work?
THE MOUSE.
The mouse?
YES. AND THE 5 1/4 DRIVE.
I don't have a 5 1/4 drive.
YES YOU DO.
No I don't.
WHAT'S THAT THEN?
It's a DVD R/W drive.
NO IT ISN'T.
Yes it is.
YOU'RE NOT THAT SMART YOU KNOW.
Look, can you just upgrade Vista on my system and I'll download the latest drivers for everything later? Please?
WAIT, WHAT DO YOU MEAN *YOUR* SYSTEM?
Well it is mine.
NO IT ISN'T.
It bloody well is.
NUH-UH. YOU SIGNED THE AGREEMENT WHEN YOU OPENED THE BOX. OUR SYSTEM. IT'S OURS. AND YOU CAN ONLY DO 4 CHANGES BEFORE YOU HAVE TO PAY US MORE MONEY.
But why?
BECAUSE THAT'S HOW THE LICENSE WORKS, IDJIT. WE CAN'T VERY WELL HAVE PEOPLE PUTTING HARDWARE AND SOFTWARE ON THEIR SYSTEMS ALL HIGGLEDY PIGGLEDY, NOW COULD WE? YOU USERS WOULD MUCK EVERYTHING UP, AND THEN WHERE WOULD WE BE? I'LL TELL YOU WHERE, NOWHERE. THAT'S WHERE. I... HEY, WHAT IS THAT? WHAT ARE YOU DOING? IS THAT A DISK? WHAT ARE YOU DOING WITH THAT DISK? YOU'RE NOT PUTTING IT IN THE DRIVE ARE YOU? YOU ARE! WHAT'S ON THAT DISK? IS THAT LINUX? YOU'RE INSTALLING LINUX?? WHY WOULD YOU INSTALL LINUX WHEN I AM INFINITELY MORE POWE..........
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Re:Upgrade Path... (Score:4, Informative)
Ubuntu-9.04 # ed
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Where's the "+10 entertaining" mod button? ROFLMAO
I'm never first (Score:5, Insightful)
I'm never first to buy any piece of software. I don't like paying to beta test software, and with MS's current record with OS's, I'm apprehensive at best to purchase this. And I still hate how MS wipes your MBR. For the love of god MS, some of us run dual boot systems.
At the very least, give us an option.
News? (Score:4, Informative)
Somehow, this hardly seems like news. Windows 7 is a much better planned and engineered system than Vista ever was. Vista was shoved down our throats, while 7 takes into consideration what people need and want. I run 7 on machines that Vista just barfed at, meaning I don't need to spend 600 bucks on hardware to please Microsoft.
Yes, of course Win7 outsells Vista immediately. The humorous news will be coming out in the months ahead, when organizations that adopted Vista, like the US Army, find that they are unable to do things that Win7 users can do. Right now, I have almost no idea what those things might be - but most likely it will be driver related. No one is going to develop for Vista!!
Just wait for it.......
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Say what? You in for a rude awakening when 7 is actually released. It will be "shoved down your throat" more so than Vista ever was, especially if it is moderately successful. The only reason for 7's existence and XP's continued presence is because of the awful press (in my opinion, justified) and that companies and home users basically rebelled against Vista. The key is to watch for Win7 only features like i
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Science forbid a company deliver a product that is better than its previous one
Um, science may forbid your going faster than the speed of light, but it has nothing to do with economics.
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WOOSH!
It was a joke, replacing "science" for "god"
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Release Vista, a relatively broken operating system, and try to ram it down peoples' throats. When the people gag enough pop out a 'new' OS that fixes the unpalatableness of the old OS and sell millions!
So you would have preferred Microsoft follow up an OS that was not received well publicly with another OS that wouldn't be received well publicly? I swear, the company can do nothing right for some people.
Why are you assuming that he wasn't being honest? Maybe he really thinks it *is* a great strategy (I do), but that doesn't mean he can't be snarky about it.
Of course for me, why yes, I would prefer it if Microsoft continued to churn out poorly received operating systems, whether that reputation is deserved or not. Their de facto monopoly on the desktop is hardly a good thing for consumers. One does not need look far into the past to see the results (or lack thereof) of Microsoft either being too comforta
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Why assume anything? I've been using the RC for 6 weeks, nothing wrong with it. Good step up from XP.
Re:Great startegy (Score:5, Interesting)
Ah, but may I mention that this time you don't need to be fooled by believing pre-release hype. You could have tried the beta and you can try the RC. I'm running the RC at home. I like it. If/when/whatever I buy Win 7 it won't be because of hype. It will be because I've run the RC for ~6 months and have found it to work well.
I hope that's not considered "hype."
Re:Great startegy (Score:5, Informative)
A lot of the hype isn't hype; due partially to how horribly bad Windows Vista is and partially due to the 'free RC' MS has provided, a lot of people (both geeks and non-geeks) have installed Windows 7.
Back when XP was in pre-release I had a friend who had a copy. This must've been around 2001 or so; I'm not really sure of the specifics. I saw it running on his machine; he liked it, he said. To me, it didn't look all that much different than 2k, and it was noteably slower on his machine. I (and many other geeks) said "pass" until around the first service pack (and when hardware was able to make up for the bloat in the software).
W7 is entirely different. It's been a solid product since the pre-7000 releases (partially due to MS taking a lot of the visual glitches out of startup/the interface, giving a heightened appearance of 'smoothness'). Many have found that, aside from a handful of applications not working, the OS is drastically, drastically better than Vista. On my ancient Thinkpad X30 (1.2GHz P3M, 512M, 20G disk), it performs quite well. Aside from a fairly lengthy boot, it's more responsive and feels less glitchy than XP ever did on the machine. It's also significantly faster/responsive than *gasp* Ubuntu 9.04 or 8.10 on the same hardware. (I should note that I had Linux installed on the laptop exclusively since I got it, starting with Mandrake 10, IIRC.)
I, as well as several other Linux geeks I know, have Windows 7 machines set up as their "gaming machine". I've got a Windows-fanatic friend who's been using W7 exclusively since 7000 or so. Can you imagine that happening with Vista, XP, or 2K? No, those products were, relatively, shit.
So yes, there are a lot of people using W7 with satisfaction, even people who were like you: skeptical of the pre-release bullshit.
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It's New Coke all over again.
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Not that I don't mind using a descent OS, which Windows 7 seems to be at this time.
So Windows 7 is an operating system specialized in producing offspring? Truly, that's taking "The internet is for porn" to its ultimate consequences!
Re:Great startegy (Score:5, Funny)
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Amongst other meanings, descent also means the set of people who can trace their lineage to you (your descendants as a whole)
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So, what you're saying is something like this...
1) Release crappy Vista OS.
2) ?
3) Profit!
Now, I'm not sure about Bill Gates, but Steve Ballmer looks like he could actually be an Underpants Gnome.
I'm sorry- one should never mention Gnome around Ballmer. He tends to throw things.
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Windows 7: this is the OS you should've had back in '07
People would be less inclined to buy.
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Actually, you mean a marketing company that just happens to sell software.
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For the same reason as yours is "Interesting"?
Re:Long time lurker... (Score:4, Interesting)
Hmm looks like maybe I stand corrected... it why is this article in the "Technology" section when it is very obviously a Microsoft article?
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But as of late Slashdot seems to have a huge MS slant. How many stories have there been about Windows 7 (6.1, Vista SP3)? RC? Pre orders?
You can replace MS with apple, google, or any other company that is releasing something. It all depends on the day. Hell I remember seeing 6-7 apple stories on the front page on the same day. It all depends on what the editors are posting.
Also remember that Slashdot likes to get a lot of comments and page views. Stories about microsoft, apple, google get people's attention.
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I've been reading Slashdot for 10 or 11 years (I've never seen a reason to register an account).
Ok, you made a liar out of me, I just swore in my journal that I wouldn't respond to ACs, but damn it, I'm biting just this once.
One good reason to register an account is that you can actually know when someone responds to one of your comments without checking your comment every five minutes. You won't see this comment or even know I made it. Why join a discussion if you're not going to listen?
OK, back to ignorin
the point of ignoring AC's (Score:2)
Because of the other half of the participants.
Besides, GP never said he'd pretend AC's didn't exist; s/he just said s/he wouldn't respond to AC's.
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I, for one, am interested in your wet slippery bits at the front.
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It sounds all nice until you realize...
A) The major apps are all on Windows.
B) The people making the those apps... LIKE DRM.
So why would they invest in writing software for linux? And which flavor of linux? Linux has a lot of users but that number is tiny and insignificant compared to Windows users. Why would software makers opt to make software for such a small audience?
Its just not going to happen. I dont know what world you live in but in my world, corporations dont give a fuck about freedom, you, or you
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It was dirty trick for Microsoft to put back the security?
Please, what Linux has done is shown the world that an OS can become popular, incredibly stable, and widely loved by a hundred million or more people world-wide.
[citation needed]
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The Windows 7 editions don't work like Vista's. In Vista, you had the Home Premium that had stuff like Media Center, the Business that had all of the business-y features, and if you wanted both, you needed Ultimate.
In Windows 7, its not like that... Home Premium is the same as in Vista, Professional has all of the Home Premium features, plus the business/network stuff, and Ultimate has that, plus a couple of features only useful on corporate domains (such as more Group Policites and fancier VPN functionalit