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Rude Drivers Reduce Traffic Jams 882

BuzzSkyline writes "Traffic jams are minimized if a significant fraction of drivers break the rules by doing things like passing on the wrong side or changing lanes too close to an intersection. The insight comes from a cellular automata study published this month in the journal Physical Review E. In effect, people who disregard the rules help to break up the groups that form as rule-followers clump together. The risk of jamming is lower if all people obey the rules than if they all disobey them, according to the analysis, but jamming risk is lowest when about 40 percent of people drive like jerks."
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  • Surprise! (Score:1, Insightful)

    by unifyingtheory ( 1357069 ) on Wednesday July 29, 2009 @11:52AM (#28867525) Homepage
    Drivers breaking the rules to get out of traffic jams reduces the number of cars in traffic jams.

    In other news... passengers jumping out of airplanes leaves more room for other passengers.
  • by KingSkippus ( 799657 ) * on Wednesday July 29, 2009 @11:53AM (#28867545) Homepage Journal

    Of course rude drivers ease congestion. When they kill someone because of their stupidity, not only will that person not drive again, but they'll probably lose their license, so they won't either!

  • by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 29, 2009 @11:53AM (#28867559)
    At least 30mph is moving. Have you ever driven near/in/around Washington DC?
  • by BadAnalogyGuy ( 945258 ) <BadAnalogyGuy@gmail.com> on Wednesday July 29, 2009 @11:54AM (#28867573)

    The problem of cars "clumping" is due to the "rule abiding" drivers following each other too closely. This is in fact not rule abiding.

    A reasonable space must be left between each car to provide enough extra slack to handle unexpected events like braking and slowing. When people follow too closely, this slack is all but eliminated thus causing each unexpected event's effect to become magnified. A quick tap of the brakes causes a chain reaction resulting in a traffic jam. Leaving enough space to handle an unexpected event provides each driver extra time to react.

    In addition, since the additional slack allows for longer reaction times, a faster average speed can be achieved. Bob Dobbs would be so proud.

  • by Calithulu ( 1487963 ) on Wednesday July 29, 2009 @11:58AM (#28867627)
    No kidding. I have to wonder if they bothered to look at the number of accidents caused when someone did something stupid. TFA doesn't mention accidents at all.
  • by drdrgivemethenews ( 1525877 ) on Wednesday July 29, 2009 @11:58AM (#28867631)
    Article also says to always obey the 3 second rule. This doesn't make sense. In heavy traffic most folks are 1/2 to one second apart. If you spread them 3 seconds apart, throughput goes down by a factor of between three and six. Too bad, the original research is impressive and spot on.
  • by Lumpy ( 12016 ) on Wednesday July 29, 2009 @12:00PM (#28867673) Homepage

    Actually until they cause an accident then they cause even more congestion.

      I used to see that all the time on 69 in Detroit. get jammed up, idiots start driving the shoulder and cause an accident, now we are jammed up further.

    I love the morons on the motorcycles lane splitting and then getting creamed.

  • by Faizdog ( 243703 ) on Wednesday July 29, 2009 @12:00PM (#28867681)

    IMO, a lot of problems could be avoided if people respected all the rules of the road, and not just the official ones. For example, I respect anyone's right to drive at whatever speed they feel comfortable with. If that's at, above or below the speed limit I don't care. However, no matter how fast you're going, if there's someone behind you who wishes to go faster, move over to the right. It's not your job to set speed limits, the cops do that, and they exercise discretion too depending on the traffic and time of the day.

    What gets me really frustrated is people in the left lane, going at or slightly below the speed limit, with a LONG line behind them. It's situations like these that cause problems, as people who wish to go faster try to get around the slowpokes.

    In my opinion, if people simply moved over for a faster car, kept the left lane open for passing/faster traffic, then the vast majority of weaving cars and "jerks" on the highways would disappear.

    It's a big peeve of mine. I drive faster than the speed limit, I'll admit it. If I'm in the wrong, the cops will pull me over. However, get out of the left lane if you're going slow and there's 10 cars tailgating behind you!

  • by Attila Dimedici ( 1036002 ) on Wednesday July 29, 2009 @12:01PM (#28867709)

    The problem of cars "clumping" is due to the "rule abiding" drivers following each other too closely. This is in fact not rule abiding.

    And in fact that behavior is largely caused by the people who break the rules as defined by this study. So, the 40% who break the rules to make traffic flow better cause the other people to drive in such a manner so as to make the traffic problem worse in such a way as that behavior by the 40% fixes.

  • Four words (Score:2, Insightful)

    by consonant ( 896763 ) <shrikant.nNO@SPAMgmail.com> on Wednesday July 29, 2009 @12:01PM (#28867715) Homepage

    Tragedy of the commons [wikipedia.org]. Seriously, what's the deal with 'studies' like this even being done?

    In any system that requires order, a certain amount of entropy is desirable. But when the factors contributing to this entropy are 'given permission' to increase, then the system breaks down into complete chaos.

    Isn't that just great? Now jerkwad drivers can justify themselves quoting this study: "But I was just trying to be the 40% of helpful guys!"

  • Empirical Evidence (Score:3, Insightful)

    by njfuzzy ( 734116 ) <ian&ian-x,com> on Wednesday July 29, 2009 @12:04PM (#28867751) Homepage
    I live in Boston, so I have empirical evidence that if 40% people drive like assholes, you still get plenty of traffic jams. Sorry, your model must be broken.
  • Re:Riiiight. (Score:4, Insightful)

    by maxwell demon ( 590494 ) on Wednesday July 29, 2009 @12:06PM (#28867799) Journal

    Well, in Germany it would be against the law to change early. It has been shown that driving till the end, and then merging as "one from the left lane, one from the right lane" is the most efficient way to handle ending lanes. Therefore the law demands that. It's called "Reissverschlussverfahren" ("zipper procedure").

  • Re:40%? (Score:2, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 29, 2009 @12:08PM (#28867851)

    No, the interesting thing is that the people breaking the rules make the entire situation better for everyone else, too; not just for themselves.

  • Re:40%? (Score:3, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 29, 2009 @12:12PM (#28867945)
    If someone is passing on the wrong side, then someone else already being rude and breaking the rules by refusing to yield the passing lane.
  • Re:40%? (Score:4, Insightful)

    by GospelHead821 ( 466923 ) on Wednesday July 29, 2009 @12:15PM (#28867991)

    While they make the situation better for everybody, the people breaking the rules benefit the most. This is sort of like the "tragedy of the commons," with a twist. In the tragedy of the commons, the people who don't break the rules don't derive any benefit. In this situation, they're at least a little bit better off than if nobody broke the rules. Everybody has an incentive to try to be in that 40%, though. (Some people, like me, follow the rules dogmatically and altruistically.) I guess what's called for is some sort of automagic lottery system by which 40% of drivers in high-traffic situations are notified in real-time that they are being encouraged to drive more aggressively. AI researchers, get on that.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 29, 2009 @12:17PM (#28868027)
    The saturation point is a random variable unfortunately because the first "jerk" that causes or gets into a crash was one too many as that stops traffic completely. Unfortunately this could be the 1st jerk, the 10th jerk, or the 100th jerk. No way to tell in advance.
  • by Sir_Lewk ( 967686 ) <sirlewk@gmail. c o m> on Wednesday July 29, 2009 @12:18PM (#28868079)

    That whole "don't follow so close" thing works great, until you have a significant amount of merging going on. When merges occur drivers either need to slow down to maintain distance or start driving closer (or, oftentimes both...). It'd be nice if our roads actually allowed us to drive like that. Certainly in DC they don't, maybe other places arn't as bad.

  • by BlueBoxSW.com ( 745855 ) on Wednesday July 29, 2009 @12:21PM (#28868123) Homepage

    And they don't rubber-neck. They don't break down. They don't get pulled over for speeding tickets,

  • Re:Riiiight. (Score:1, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 29, 2009 @12:21PM (#28868133)

    Of course the Germans would have a law for this, and a word to no less.
    Damn I wish I lived in Germany... :-)

  • by Daniel_Staal ( 609844 ) <DStaal@usa.net> on Wednesday July 29, 2009 @12:21PM (#28868141)

    And it depends on which rules, and where. Not all rule-breaking helps, just those that encourage the flow of traffic.

    Personally, there's one rule I'd like ingrained in every driver's head: never match speeds with someone in the lane next to you. Pass, fall behind, whatever. Just don't sit there turning a two-lane road into what's effectively a one-lane road.

  • by philipgar ( 595691 ) <{pcg2} {at} {lehigh.edu}> on Wednesday July 29, 2009 @12:30PM (#28868309) Homepage
    20-lane roads won't really solve the problem, as now you end up with the left few lanes having the long-distance drivers, and the right lanes being a mess of cars trying to change lanes and get over to their exits. How many times have you seen cars fly across 3 lanes of traffic to get to an exit? Now imagine cars trying this across 5 or 10 or even 20 lanes. Now you need far more road to change lanes, and now you'll get stuck with multi-lane traffic accidents. I suppose traffic can still move around them fast, but the roads definitely wouldn't be safer (a side issue, but normally considered more important than how fast traffic flows).

    Phil
  • by causality ( 777677 ) on Wednesday July 29, 2009 @12:33PM (#28868367)

    Another cure for traffic jams is to make our highways 20-lanes wide (like in Asimov's novels).

    Two words, separated by a hyphen: rubber-neckers.

    They are the cause of almost all traffic jams.

    (I live in Sterling, couldn't fathom driving into or out of DC every day. I'd do what you do and leave at 5. My neighbor does that as well.)

    I notice a lot of other little tendencies that also contribute to the problem. There's one in particular that comes to mind.

    I usually see this on four-lane highways, where you have two lanes going one way and two lanes going the other way. Anytime there are only two other cars, they are right beside each other, in lock-step, doing the exact same speed over the course of miles. That way no one can pass them. If you tap (not lay on) your horn to try to get the guy in the passing lane to do some crazy like y'know, pass the other driver so you can get by them, they often think you're challenging their manhood rather than asking them not to monopolize a public resource. When I see this shit all the time, it becomes easier to understand why impatient drivers get fed up with it and will make dangerous maneuvers (like cutting right in front of someone) to get around these people. I'm not saying it's an excuse, only that if you create a strong enough temptation some people WILL succumb to it even if they aren't supposed to.

    I often notice people will try to stay in my blind spot so they can do this. There's just no way that they are accidentally going my exact same speed over the course of miles. Any fraction faster or slower would eventually cause one car to pass the other over distances. I also see that when I have to stop for a traffic light, the guy beside me will slow down at the same time that I slow down even though there may be cars in front of me that require me to slow down earlier than he does. This often causes them to stop short, or to stop short, realize it, and then pull up to the light. Or if you take an exit ramp off the highway and you are slowing down in a turning lane, watch the guy who is still on the highway; often he will slow down on the highway lane just because you are slowing down in the separate turning lane, needlessly holding up anyone behind him. I refer to highways that are specifically designed so that turning traffic has its own lane and need not slow down the main road. I think drivers don't understand that groups of cars exhibit wave-like behaviors, so a minor needless slowdown can contribute to jams miles behind you. That is, it does not occur to them to even think at all of how their decisions are affecting other people, which sums up nearly all traffic problems.

    I really don't think they intend to do it. I think they're just such sheep that they cannot even independently choose their own speed. Doing as others around them are doing is just so deeply ingrained. I won't allow someone to hang out in my blind spot for very long at all and will alter my speed to prevent it, both because it prevents me from being able to change lanes and because it limits my maneuverability if I ever had to dodge an obstacle. It has these two downsides and it has no upside for anyone so it's not even selfish of the other drivers, just stupid.

    Another issue that causes some jams is the traffic lights themselves. Traffic lights seem to be why cars travel in these huge packs because they all line up at the red light. The tendencies I mentioned above guarantee that the packs usually don't disperse over distances. If I can manage to get in front of or just behind such a pack of cars, it makes things much easier for me than when I'm stuck within one. I'd be interested in whether something like traffic circles would prevent these large packs from forming.

  • Re:Surprise! (Score:5, Insightful)

    by JustinOpinion ( 1246824 ) on Wednesday July 29, 2009 @12:33PM (#28868371)
    Cute. But actually the paper is more about the probability of forming jams, not about getting rid of jams once they've already formed.

    The conclusion is more like: Though traffic rules are designed to lead to orderly flows, the lowest jamming rate (under certain conditions) actually occurs when some fraction of participants ignore the rules.

    (As a side note, it's a bit of a pet-peeve of mine when people make fun of studies by saying "That conclusion is so obvious! What a waste of time!" Common sense, hunches, and gut feelings are often wrong, which is why we do rigorous research to get at the right answers. And even if the general conclusion is obvious (in hindsight, mind you), rigorous research means that we can say something about error bars and make specific statements about applicability and predictability of models.)
  • Re:Four words (Score:2, Insightful)

    by maxume ( 22995 ) on Wednesday July 29, 2009 @12:34PM (#28868383)

    The convenient thing about jerks is that, nearly by definition, they aren't worried about justification.

  • by moeinvt ( 851793 ) on Wednesday July 29, 2009 @12:36PM (#28868409)

    Tell that to all of the A$$holes who suddenly feel the need to accelerate as you try to pass them! Maybe it's just an unconscious competitive thing for some people, but it happens all too frequently. These are definitely not the types of jerks who increase the flow of traffic. I've got my cruise control on, and am steadily approaching the car in front of me at a relative speed of 5-10 mph. I change lanes to pass and all of a sudden the relative rate of speed drops to '0'? Maybe my cruise control just stops working in the center or left lanes?

  • by DavidTC ( 10147 ) <slas45dxsvadiv D ... neverbox DOT com> on Wednesday July 29, 2009 @12:36PM (#28868435) Homepage

    Correct.

    In fact, not only will backing up help avoid creating stop-and-go traffic, it help get rid of it once it exists. Get back four or five car lengths, and let the damn stop-and-go average out.

    Stop and go traffic is contagious. It's like a cold. Someone starts it, usually from following too closely and having to break. People catch it from the cars in front of them, and pass it on to cars behind them, and then get cured naturally.

    If you refuse to get 'infected', if you back off far enough that their stop and go doesn't make you stop, yeah, you don't get there any faster, you can't go through the cars in front of you. But you're not going to get there slower, and you'll get there with less gas usage and less wear-and-tear on your car. And the same for all the cars behind you, and very shortly, the entire mess will be over. (As soon as the people in front of you are cured of it.)

    This is, in fact, often how outbreaks of stop and go disappear by themselves. Eventually, without consciously doing it, often just with poor reflexes, people average it into non-existence.

    The problem, of course, is all the idiots who jump in front of you when you back off far enough to make it totally disappear. And their jumping in front of you makes you brake, starting a new case of stop-and-go.

  • by hamburgler007 ( 1420537 ) on Wednesday July 29, 2009 @12:43PM (#28868561)
    Hopefully I won't get trolled for this, but it's that kind of mentality that causes accidents. Not the part about slowing down in front of a tailgater necessarily, but intentionally speeding up as soon as they go to pass you in the other lane.
  • by Ioldanach ( 88584 ) on Wednesday July 29, 2009 @12:48PM (#28868713)

    In some places, lane splitting is legal.

    That doesn't mean its wise or safe. Don't go lane splitting on your motorcycle and then get pissed that someone who couldn't see you because you're moving at twice the speed of traffic tried to change lanes and you wrecked. You were engaging in an unsafe, if legal, maneuver.

  • by CorporateSuit ( 1319461 ) on Wednesday July 29, 2009 @12:54PM (#28868823)
    Woah, woah, wait a second, there, pal. If you back up 4 or 5 car lengths, and expect everyone else to, then you're, in effect, increasing traffic by 4-5 times. Rush hour traffic jams are caused by too many cars on the road at one time. If you say each car needs to extend its personal sphere by 3-4 times, then you're turning every civic into a double-trailer. Suddenly, the capacity for a highway goes from 500 cars per lane per mile down to 200 cars per lane per mile. This might be ok for a place like... Unknown Town, Idaho -- but in places where traffic is caused by BOTTLENECKS and not just COWS or ACCIDENTS, (cities with populations over 3,000). Breaking because the guy in front of you is breaking or slowing or merging may cause temporarily slowdown or lag in a slinky effect, but it's not what shuts down entire 8-lane freeways for hours.
  • by Reziac ( 43301 ) * on Wednesday July 29, 2009 @01:01PM (#28868953) Homepage Journal

    I think this may be hardwired behaviour, NOT due to just being a competitive asshole. It is essentially herd behaviour -- stick with the herd, don't get left behind for the predators to notice.

    I've noticed my neighbour, who has no push-and-shove in her at all and is very much a "herd animal", will drive faster to "keep up with" a car in the next lane, AND DOES NOT REALISE SHE IS DOING IT. She will speed up by as much as 10mph to "keep up" and still doesn't notice she's done so.

    Me, I'm a predator by nature, and I find that my natural response is to get AWAY from the car in the next lane, to get ahead of or behind them, but never to travel side by side.

  • by PoopMonkey ( 932637 ) on Wednesday July 29, 2009 @01:05PM (#28869025)

    Because speed limits have long ago ceased having anything to do with safety and become only revenue generators.

  • by Radical Moderate ( 563286 ) on Wednesday July 29, 2009 @01:15PM (#28869221)
    I'm with you there, I used to like to speed. Now I like to cruise in the slow lane, and I have the opposite peeve: Asshats who refuse to use the two empty lanes on my left to pass, and ride my frickin bumper. I'll give em a minute, then the foot comes off the gas. Had one guy wait until we got down to 35 before he passed me. So sorry, is changing lanes really that hard?
  • by DavidTC ( 10147 ) <slas45dxsvadiv D ... neverbox DOT com> on Wednesday July 29, 2009 @01:19PM (#28869313) Homepage

    I wasn't saying do it normally, although I can see how it could be read that way.

    I was saying it should be done as a solution to an existing area of stop and go traffic, not to prevent it. (Although it certainly would do that also! But the price would be too high.) People should just...stop. Once. And let traffic get four to five car lengths in front of them, and then drive.

    And only one person per-lane should be doing this. Aka, someone stopping in front of you and waiting till people got that far should not, itself, cause you do to then do the same thing to them. They already fixed the stop and go, you can just follow them normally.

    Except, of course, this won't work, because fools will jump in. The best solution currently is to just inform people that every time they brake in stop and go traffic, they make the problem worse. So they should let cars get as far in front of them as they are comfortable with, and slowly idle forward instead of moving forward and braking.

  • I don't know how people justify speeding for any reason other than in a critical situation.

    Because when the limit is 55 and everyone else is going 70-75, it probably isn't safe to not speed.

  • by RobBebop ( 947356 ) on Wednesday July 29, 2009 @01:28PM (#28869517) Homepage Journal

    then he (or his estate) owes $170,000 which can then be used to fund hypertension treatment facilities and meditation centers in the state.

    What about using that money to give tax write-offs to businesses who encourage their employees to work from home to reduce traffic? I personally make it a point to live as close to work as is affordable (currently 20-25 minutes with no time on major highways) but my understanding is that *most* people have 45-75 minute commutes to and from work everyday.

  • by commodore64_love ( 1445365 ) on Wednesday July 29, 2009 @01:37PM (#28869677) Journal

    ...for insurance companies. You left-out that part. They lobby harder than anyone for speed limits, because if you get two or more tickets, they can label you a "wreckless driver" (even if you've never had an accident your whole life) and double or even triple their rates.

    Furthermore U.S. Congressional law mandates that interstates be designed for 120 miles an hour (note I said interstates, not the spurs or beltways). Why we are limited to only half that speed makes no sense to me. Other states like Montana have no speed limit, or like Oklahoma have 75mph limits, and are still just as safe as those states with 55 or 65.

  • Re:40%? (Score:3, Insightful)

    by RoverDaddy ( 869116 ) on Wednesday July 29, 2009 @01:38PM (#28869717) Homepage
    My take on that, is that as long as you are actually passing somebody, you have every right to remain in the passing lane, even if some %#^@*! wants to go 10 mph faster than you. However, once the lane to your right is clear for a reasonable distance, you must yield the passing lane, even if you think the guy behind you is going unreasonably fast. This is the law here in MA and I believe most states enforce "keep right except to pass". Driving the speed limit does not entitle you to the left lane, even though it's an apparent contradiction that the speeder behind you has the right to pass you.
  • by Chatterton ( 228704 ) on Wednesday July 29, 2009 @01:58PM (#28870087) Homepage

    Yes, this kind of things is my wet dream. No more grandpa stuck in the middle of the motorway at half the speed limit and no more speed jerk running over your bumper because you drive to slow for them but already 5-10km/h over the speed limit... For me a car is a tool to move from point A to point B. If i don't have to bother about the others cars because the car do it for me, I will have time to read/play/work during to commute.

  • by orgelspieler ( 865795 ) <w0lfie AT mac DOT com> on Wednesday July 29, 2009 @02:01PM (#28870145) Journal

    lights are timed for the speed limit

    Where do you live that the lights are timed for the speed limit? Around the Houston area they certainly aren't. Your probability for catching a green wave does not increase with proximity to the speed limit. Hell, in some neighborhoods all the lights have car sensors rather than timers.

    As for coasting to a stop at a red light, that's not "hypermiling," it's just common sense. I can't count the number of times I've had to stop because somebody gunned past me on the way to a red light, only to have to stop, when we both could have coasted through had he just had an iota of patience. So wasteful!

    people have largely stopped honking, so they'll just sit behind such an oblivious person and just wait

    Man I want to live where you do. Around here, if you aren't immediately moving you get honked at. The great irony there is that if you don't wait at least half a second before hitting the gas, you're likely to get hit by a red-light-runner.

    rubberneckers, even when someone is just changing a tire or getting a ticket

    Slowing down is not rubbernecking when somebody is getting a ticket. In Texas, you're required by law [onecle.com] to either move over one lane or drop to 20 mph below the posted speed limit when passing an emergency vehicle with lights on.

    so many people seem unwilling to even get up to the speed limit, let alone exceed it by a few miles per hour, as if you're going to get a ticket for 48 in a 45

    People don't go over the speed limit, because it's the law (in most states, though some have a reasonable speed clause). If you don't like it, petition your local transportation department to change it. Don't ride their ass, honk your horn, and/or flip them off. Not saying you do, but several want-to-go-fast-because-I-can drivers certainly do. I used to be one of them when I was a whippersnapper. And there are certainly locales where the local police force will give you a ticket for going even one mph over the posted limit, even when you're in the process of decelerating from one speed zone to another.

    As for people who stop on acceleration lanes, I'm right with you. It's terribly common in San Antonio. I'm surprised it doesn't cause more accidents than it does. It's second on my list of pet peeves only to those who don't yield to those on an exit ramp.

    In an older copy of the Texas driver handbook, you used to have to come to a complete stop at a red with green arrow. In some states it may still be that way, I don't know. Additionally, if you're turning, it's always advisable to slow down enough so that you can stop if there are pedestrians present.

  • by Fulcrum of Evil ( 560260 ) on Wednesday July 29, 2009 @03:03PM (#28871263)

    When you are paying for my gasoline, I will let you choose what speed I decide to move at on the road. Here our speed limit is set to 70. I get better gas mileage at 65. Everyone else goes 83 except truckers, I guess gas just is not high enough for people who speed.

    Fine, just stay out of the left lane.

    The "Speed Limit" is not the "Minimum Required Speed"

    Sure, but it is the expected speed in good conditions.

    Remember the speed limit is created as the maximum safe speed for a given length of road on favorable conditions. So I continue to ask everyone, what is your hurry?

    The speed limit is often political, and is defined for the crappiest car that's road worthy - drive a uhaul truck at the speed limit and it's a whole lot more risk than my WRX going 10 (or 25) over. I'm not in a hurry, but I like to drive fast.

    For all those who are wondering about why people tend (see that 40% thing again) to speed up while you are passing them?

    Because some people don't want to drive fast, but can't stand the idea of someone passing them. Pretty messed up, really.

  • by mrchaotica ( 681592 ) * on Wednesday July 29, 2009 @03:41PM (#28871911)

    The former is understandable, but if it's the latter, why should I make room for you to break the law (go over 65)? Sure, it's your choice to speed, but I don't see where I should feel bad about doing the speed limit.

    Because "slower traffic keep right" is the law too, and if you fail to yield then you're breaking it!

  • by caluml ( 551744 ) <slashdot@@@spamgoeshere...calum...org> on Wednesday July 29, 2009 @03:51PM (#28872087) Homepage
    From your sig:

    You save only 59 seconds over 8 miles by going 75 instead of 65. Do you really have to pass that guy? Do the Math!

    Think of it like this: you're getting there 15% sooner. 15% of a long journey is not to be sneezed at.

  • Re:40%? (Score:3, Insightful)

    by Hatta ( 162192 ) * on Wednesday July 29, 2009 @04:04PM (#28872345) Journal

    Calm down, chief. If he's going 75 in the passing lane like he said, and the other lane is going 55 he is exactly where he should be. If he's passing, he belongs in the passing lane. Your right to pass him is not more important than his right to pass others. If you think it is, that makes you the "utterly sleazy self-centered piece of garbage wrapped in skin."

  • by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 29, 2009 @11:07PM (#28877071)

    That distance/time calculation doesn't take into account the 5 traffic lights I made it through instead of being stopped at because I was there 3 seconds earlier.

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