"Moot" Working On Reboot of 4chan Platform 205
Hugh Pickens writes "Nick Bilton has an interesting interview with Christopher Poole, known online as 'Moot,' founder 4chan, a jumble of content, hosting anything from pictures of cute kittens to wildly disturbing images and language. Poole, now 22, started 4chan when he was 15 after he discovered a Japanese image-board Web forum called 2chan dedicated to anime. 'The code for 2chan was publicly available and I took it and translated it from Japanese to English using tools online and I threw it up on the Web and sent it out to 20 people,' says Poole. 'I wanted to keep with the 2chan naming and the URL for 3chan was taken at the time so I just jumped to the next number.' Although 4chan gets 8.2 million unique visitors every month, 600 million page loads per month, and 800,000 new posts a day, Poole is working on a new project to reimagine what an image board should be today using the current technologies available."
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Could that article possibly be any more lame??? So...Moot ponders some nebulous concepts about 4Chan: The Next Generation for about five seconds. Some other dude then bloats it into a puff piece in hopes of warping reality by placing the concepts of "New York Times" and "hip blogger" in the same sentence, with his own name on top. Riiiight. Journalism, we hardly knew ye.
Call me when a *real* article on the subject appears. Until then, forward my calls to /s/. :P
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New York Times != Time (Score:2)
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New York Times != Time
Ah, thanks for pointing that out.
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And I wince every time I see a story seriously using the name "Christopher Poole."
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Live from Slashdot, it's Friday Night! (Score:5, Funny)
Website creator promises to redesign his website. We'll be monitoring this story overnight and have a full report to you on the Saturday Really Early News. We start when normal people wake up.
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Not everyone here is from the same timezone... or even America.
I can't wait (Score:5, Funny)
For the web2.0 tubgirl experience.
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IN THREE DEEE!
What? Meme meets hype, it ain't like it's something new...
Lame joke... (Score:2, Funny)
We could discuss this further, but I'm afraid it'd be a Moot point.
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We could discuss this further, but I'm afraid it'd be a Moot point.
Headline should've read: 4chan Redesign Mooted.
I call Vaporware! (Score:3, Interesting)
Doesn't Moot know that it's bad luck for geeks to discuss software they're going to write before it's written? It's the Vaporware curse that has been dogging classics like Duke Nukem Forever.
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Anonymous post-it notes (Score:4, Funny)
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The Game
Well played, Sir.
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"the game."
I officially hate you now.
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You know, that's a really insightful post.
I've also noticed something rather interesting about the Internet. If you just start googling something and randomly follow your casual interests and highlight interesting words or names and google those and just keep doing this over and over, say for 500-700 iterations, you will eventually and inevitably land on either 4chan or Encyclopedia Dramatica. I know, weird, right?
It's like one of those dumb algebra tricks whe
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lol (Score:1)
Needs moar pooper.
"Close the world... (Score:1)
Although if that where to happen, I'd probably wind up more like poor Mika-chan than Lain.
"The other side is overcrowded. The dead will have nowhere to go.", indeed.
et tu, 4chan? (Score:5, Insightful)
first slashdot goes web2.0, and now 4chan? there'll come a day when you won't be able to look up man pages on the internet without a web browser with javascript and java enabled. mark my words.
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first slashdot goes web2.0, and now 4chan? there'll come a day when you won't be able to look up man pages on the internet without a web browser with javascript and java enabled. mark my words.
Don't forget Flash! :)
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Don't forget Flash!
How could I? I endearingly call it "job security for the forseeable time".
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No, it means that 4chan will copy the "enlarge all images" scriplet from 7chan. This is cue for 7channers to complain about 4chan and "party hard", that is, make the background change colors in rabid strobo effect to supposedly drive "niggertitters" out. Expect lots of epic drama as two sets of losers badmouth each other over nothing; in other words, information age entertainment at its best :
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there'll come a day when you won't be able to look up man pages on the internet without a web browser with javascript and java enabled.
Meh. I'm only interested in the WOman pages. Not saying it's wrong though. I mean, I don't see the attraction, especially to guys on 4chan or slashdot, but I guess you have a type...
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I was actually thinking "flash" but typed "java" accidentally. something to be interpreted about my subconscious I'm sure.
/b/ (Score:5, Insightful)
this is your id and this is your id on drugs /b/
see? same thing
and that's even if you don't know anything about drugs
it's not as if /b/ tries to be the wild wild west /b/ too deeply /b/ is there
it just is
what else is left that's like the old usenet?
or like a place without rules?
it's there.. not that one can continue to feel well
if one looks into
so it's funny to think that net freedom is healthy coz
yet.. there you have it
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what else is left that's like the old usenet?
I always thought the point of being nostalgic about the 'old usenet' was that the conversations could actually be worth having. The 'new usenet' strikes me as far more similar to 4chan and other sites of that ilk, particularly considering the often-similar content of those sites and alt.binaries.*.
Obligatory (Score:1)
Sup /b/?
The name of the new project...? (Score:2)
5chan
We are all /b/tards. Not all of us accept that. (Score:5, Interesting)
/. and /b/ share a common history. /. is sort of a grandparent for /b/. And, read how I say /b/ and not 4chan. /b/ and the rest of 4chan are completely different places, with wholly different people. The difference is interests. Actually, people in other boards have interests, common interests. People in /b/ ... they are just /b/tards.
but ALL of you go to /b/, some more often than others. You all troll Omegle, and you all have vandalized wikipedia at least once. Every single one of you have gone into chatroulette to flash your dick, and engaged in a flame war with the retards that post on youtube, or spent hours looking at gross things at rotten.
This are the dark corners of the web. We all go there. Not all of us admit it.
All of this sites exist for a simple reason: Because they can. It's part of what we all are, and we have to eventually vent and let the daemons run loose.
So, don't be so critic of 4chan and accept it for what it is: A crappy board filled with self-righteous, ignorant, malicious and violent hypocrites. A quick hack that excretes nonstandard html code where lots of cruel and selfish uncaring monsters vent their frustration and anger. And we are those monsters.
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If you've never gone to rotten.com you need to be handing in your geek card, not to mention toss your geek cred out of the window and listen to it scream as it plummets to an asphalt-laden death.
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I was expecting something along the lines of "what Rotten? Gee, there's a billion worse sites out there".
True. And, just as you point out, Rotten is to shock sites what Playboy (or was it Penthouse? Sorry, too young here myself) is for ... inspiration material. When you compare it to the stuff you can get today, it's not even tame. Hell, I can see more tits in afternoon talkshows. But back when it was created, it sure was about the only halfway easily accessible ... inspiration material you could get your s
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Easy, because rotten.com is one of the original good shock sites that any geek would've encountered long ago, you premature pre-pubescent prick.
Yeah, I remember a time when the first site you would tell people to visit was rotten.com, the second was persiankitty.com.
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LMFAO Persiankitty. Now that was a staple porn site of the early-mid 90s!
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I bet you shit where you eat too.
Re:We are all /b/tards. Not all of us accept that. (Score:5, Insightful)
Problems arise when the dark side is swept under the rug instead of acknowledged and understood. The repression and cognitive dissonance has a way of catastrophically exploding in peoples' faces -- just ask Larry Craig, Mick Foley, or the Catholic priests. The assholes who dedicate their lives to fighting and speaking out against what they fear most about themselves.
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I think that was GP's point. /b/ *IS* about getting it out into the open. Sort of like the gloryhole of the internet - all you see of everybody else is the most shameful, worst, most embarrassing parts of them - but you don't know them, and never will, so it's OK. And the same is true of you.
So on /b/ you can be an asshole, venting your (perfectly natural) hate of everybody else *at* everybody else. And then not be like that in the real world.
I know I do, sometimes. Less so than I once did.
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Your point being?
I'm a selfish bastard who relishes in the misery of others. I work in IT security and before that, I was in tech support. I have a LOT of karma to burn.
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It's always nice when people find positions that fit their personality.
Real Life alignment system is closer to Mass Effect than D&D: good and evil don't cancel each other, they're counted separately, and the accumulated total of either can never go down. Oh, and only bad karma counts.
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Oh, and only bad karma counts.
Then why bother being good?
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Well, I can't speak for anyone else, but I have simply decided that there are some things I won't do; you know, the whole Nietzschean self-actualization thing: I might be a pathetic failure as a human being in many ways, but I'm still not sinking to certain depths. It's not so much about good or bad as it is about not being an invertebrate (such as a CEO, politician or a lawyer).
People always complain that the world is nasty. It isn't; it's completely neutral, on account of being
No, we don't (Score:2)
I know what 4chan is, and having seen its like many times before over the years have no intrest in visiting /b/
I didn't feel the need to behave like a 12yr old when I was 12, and still don't decades later. That you do is your problem. Don't try to make everyone else the same as you. That is another 12yr old boy thing. Everything must be exactly the same. Difference is evil. No thanks. No nerds visit /b/, they can't stand the rigid conformity of its visitors.
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Rigid conformity? Yes, it's clear you've never been to /b/
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/b/ is pretty damn conformist. Go an objectively read the posts there, notice the common form of all the posts, the common language and use of symbols. /b/ is just another cliche, it follows all the sociological rules defining such a group. /B/ is an in group, just like any other, with a common culture, common rituals, common symbolism, etc... They are as rigidly conformist (to their own mores) as any other group or subculture.
Notice that you can always tell when confronted with any random b-tard that th
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I'm impressed by your clairvoyant ability to judge a site you imply to not have visited. But why are you posting in a discussion about the future of a website you don't care about?
It is interesting that you would associate vandalism and other negative behaviour with being 12 years old. It's also interest
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I am 12 and what is this?
Re:We are all /b/tards. Not all of us accept that. (Score:2)
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Re:We are all /b/tards. Not all of us accept that. (Score:2)
Maybe everyone does bad things on the Internet; I won't argue with that, though I've never done any of the particular things on your list. Hell, I had to ask Google what Omegle was.
But some people wallow in it, some people make that a large part of their identity. Some people choose to spend a large part of their time on the internet anonymously annoying and pissing off other folks.
And, well, I think I'd prefer it if there wasn't a huge pool for these people to swim in, where they can reassure each other th
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Second SO (Score:2)
Anyone care to inform where the board went, or whether there are similar boards? It was the closest that you could get to a /. system, with the benefit of flat threads, lack of censhorship (negative moderation will kill initiative, and I don't mid sifting through crap if the total threads are expunged slowly and aren't more than 30 or so.) There were no "news for nerds," but that meant everything was code-related, and complete noobs were somehow filtered out.
Thanks.
I'll second the Stack Overflow [stackoverflow.com] suggestion.
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It's the same as /g/, except:
s/gentoo/Ruby/g
s/Battle\ Stations/Best\ IDE/g
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All I can say, good sir, is: Lurk Moar!
Lol 4chan (Score:3, Informative)
Goatse is red, /b/ has three posters --
Mudkips are blue.
moot [encycloped...matica.com], Chris-chan [encycloped...matica.com] and you [encycloped...matica.com].
One idea: (Score:2)
How about a tool that automatically melts your hard disk after visiting /b before the FBI turns up?
Moderation System? (Score:2)
Who am I kidding; people would just all browse with "view all messages" and call people "modfags" if they mod anything up OR down.
Then again, they already have the "sage" system...
You mean like this? (Score:2)
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Maybe because not everybody does....?
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Actually, watching the arms race between 4chan and the people trying to flood 4chan is really interesting. For example, after their last attempt was blocked, they resumed the flood by alternating the language of the posts.
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If by last attempt you mean almost every hour of every day for over two years...
Re:The sad truth about 4chan (Score:5, Insightful)
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... i c wat u did thar
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* Mac: [option-space] + [option-space] + [option-J] + [enter] + [option-J] + [option-space] + [option-J]
* Linux : [Ctrl+Shift+U + a0] [Ctrl+Shift+U + a0] [Ctrl+Shift+U + 25b2] [Enter] [Ctrl+Shift+U + 25b2] [Ctrl+Shift+U + a0] [Ctrl+Shift+U + 25b2]
Anon Delivars!
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Also you'd want some actual linespacing there.
Why the fuck am I back to HTML Formatted without me knowing?
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Re:The sad truth about 4chan (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:The sad truth about 4chan (Score:5, Funny)
He's my younger, stupider, brother...
Re:I await they day that the feds (Score:5, Insightful)
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/b/ and a /xyz/ back to ya!
I don't get the internet or sewage in my backyard, and never have.
4chan can back up their own sewage servers to their own backyard, thank you.
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I do not want to see what it looks like if /b backs up. It sure ain't pleasant...
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/b/ has "backed up" (read: been unavailable) plenty of times. All that happens is the /b/tards swarm other parts of 4chan, or other chans.
Seeing the horrified posts on other boards as people realize they're about to be swamped by /b/tards almost makes /b/ being down worth it.
Re:I await they day that the feds (Score:5, Insightful)
So feds should shut them down because they create and contribute nothing? What law are you referring to?
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well actually alot of people have been partyvanned from 4chan (for those not up with the chan's lit.; partyvanned is when the FBI task force trailer, the 'party van' shows up in your driveway.) They dont do much about raids and whatnot, although most of the people behind those raids are from 711chan and others like it. 4chan in a raid is usually just the fodder to get the job done. all the great hackers today are also great social engineers, and they make full use of the mob.
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You would think he could correct that by taking on a little bit more advertising. Not all his content is advertiser phobic.
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It's the truth that the feds should shut down sites that create nothing, contribute nothing, and make someone money?
Are you on crack?
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How is this trolling? It's simply the truth.
It hardly seems to be true that they "create/contribute nothing", since half the memes on the internet (and usually the funniest half) apparently come from 4chan...
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If that's grounds to shut something down, a DAMN lot of TV licenses would be on the market for grabs! And domain names. Hell, half the internet would be dead and gone!
Not to mention we'd sure have less of an overpopulation problem... I think I stop before I give 'em ideas...
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no, they will spill and bring the stupidity all over the net.
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Probably about the same time all those advertisements started popping up.