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Narcissists, Insecure People Flock To Facebook

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  • HOLY CRAP!! (Score:2, Insightful)

    I mean, really, WOW!

    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      by AliasMarlowe (1042386)

      I mean, really, WOW!

      It's not as surprising as that. In fact, I would not call it much of a surprise at all.
      Probably the same can be said for MySpace and any other "social" site - they appeal to some mix of the insecure (such as teenagers) and the narcissistic (a particular kind of sociopath, often an adult). I had a FaceBook account for a short while, then saw what other people were doing there (people I know), and decided not to be a part of the vacuous trumpeting that substitutes for interaction. My FaceBook account was zom

      • by Ambiguous Coward (205751) on Wednesday September 08, 2010 @02:09PM (#33510954) Homepage

        At least we know your sarcasometer is properly calibrated. :)

        • Sarcasm^2
          • Sky may be blue. Our recent study indicates that many people perceive a colour when looking at an unobstructed sky. In English-speaking countries, the word most often used to describe that colour is "blue".

            In fact, many people who wish to simply define "blue", use the sky as a reference.

        • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

          by causality (777677)

          At least we know your sarcasometer is properly calibrated. :)

          I hate to break it to you and to Slashdot in general, but not every response to the underlying sentiment behind the sarcasm is a failure to understand that it was, in fact, sarcasm. The uptake of this idea is low because it might give the peanut gallery a little less to chuckle about.

          About Facebook, I've been saying this for a long time now on various other Slashdot stories that mention it. I usually use the term "exhibitionist" to describe what is clearly not a desire that would occur to mentally heal

          • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

            by icebike (68054)

            The most prominent objections to the story on the CTV linked story were from people (claim to) who use Facebook as a means to keep up with old friends.

            Fair enough. But one has to ask if this is all that healthy in and of itself. In the history of human kind, people move on in life. Old friends remain, but new friends are made.

            One wonders how many of these "friendship maintainers" are really substituting old friends for new ones, clinging to some happy period in their past, and cutting themselves off from

      • I wouldn't know. I'm too busy displaying my narcissism on /.

      • Re: (Score:3, Funny)

        by Bob-taro (996889)

        I had a FaceBook account for a short while, then saw what other people were doing there (people I know), and decided not to be a part of the vacuous trumpeting that substitutes for interaction.

        Fortunately, you'll find none of that in this forum!

    • Re:HOLY CRAP!! (Score:5, Interesting)

      by DanTheStone (1212500) on Wednesday September 08, 2010 @02:06PM (#33510902)
      They're extrapolating too far outside the sample. The sample was 100 university students. They don't adequately represent the population that uses Facebook. Plus, we have no idea how they ranked the narcissism and self-esteem listed in TFA. If narcissism was determined by how much you tell other people about what you do, of course people using Facebook would rank highly on that scale.
      • Re:HOLY CRAP!! (Score:4, Interesting)

        by networkBoy (774728) on Wednesday September 08, 2010 @02:24PM (#33511236) Homepage Journal

        Based on the number of friends I have, and the number of announcements of "hey join me at farm wars" Vs. "hai Im in ur survey you can haz cheezburger" Vs. "L@@K at me, L@@K what I did 11!111!!!" I'd say that the survey is fairly accurate. Taking that further to the couple people I *know* to have low self esteem and the one true narcissist I know, and how much time they spend on FB, yeah I think the survey is spot on.
        -nB

        • Presumably they don't keep their vacuous, illiterate comments just to Facebook. You need better friends.

      • Re:HOLY CRAP!! (Score:5, Informative)

        by Yaztromo (655250) <yaztromo@NoSPaM.mac.com> on Wednesday September 08, 2010 @02:37PM (#33511474) Homepage Journal

        Plus, we have no idea how they ranked the narcissism and self-esteem listed in TFA.

        You just need to find a better article [thestar.com]:

        The more prolific the Facebook activity, the lower they rated on the Rosenberg Self-Esteem Scale and the higher in the Narcissism Personality Inventory.

        Or from the published research itself [liebertonline.com]:

        After agreeing to participate in this research study, Facebook owners were administered a brief four-part questionnaire. The first section required demographic information, including the participant's age and gender. The second section addressed Facebook activity; it required respondents to indicate the number of times they check their Facebook page per day and the time spent on Facebook per session. The remaining sections assessed two psychological constructs: self-esteem and narcissism.

        The Rosenberg Self-Esteem Scale was used to measure participant self-esteem. This 10-item test measured self-esteem using a 4-point Likert scale, ranging from strongly disagree to strongly agree. Example items include “On the whole, I am satisfied with myself” and “I take a positive attitude toward myself.” The original reliability of this scale is 0.72. This measure has gained acceptable internal consistency and test–retest reliability, as well as convergent and discriminant validity.

        Narcissism was assessed using the Narcissism Personality Inventory (NPI)-16. The NPI-16 is a shorter, unidimensional measure of the NPI-40. While the 40-item measure revealed an =0.84, the NPI-16 has an =0.72. Despite this discrepancy, the two measures are correlated at r=0.90 (p

        And now you know.

        Yaz.

      • Re:HOLY CRAP!! (Score:4, Insightful)

        by hedwards (940851) on Wednesday September 08, 2010 @03:14PM (#33512022)
        Yeah, I call bullshit on that. Twitter is the site of narcissists.
      • by Mashiki (184564)

        Considering 50% or so of our population have a degree of some kind and have graduated from college, university or both. And somewhere around ~20 million out of 33 million people use it, it's probably closer to the truth than you'd expect.

  • ...what ? (Score:2, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward

    They needed a fucking study to see that ?

    • Re:...what ? (Score:5, Informative)

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 08, 2010 @02:12PM (#33511004)

      It's called the scientific method. Maybe you've heard of it. It requires you to not believe something just because everyone knows it.

      • Re: (Score:2, Insightful)

        by chaboud (231590)

        But we're willing to take a priori definitions of narcissists and people with low self-esteem?

        We're way into the deep end of the soft-science pool here, and it's not a big pull-back reveal that narcissists and those with low self-esteem seek out essentially risk-free forms of socialization and fora for self-aggrandizement.

        Worse still, the study was conducted on a set of just 100 students, which hardly seems like a statistically sound sample unless the biases are off the charts. Additionally, we couldn't sa

      • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

        by KingAlanI (1270538)

        exactly - "it's obvious" snarkiness seems to be an example of attitudes from people confused about the nature of science
        Either that, or they know science and mark stuff like this as a lower priority considering limited research resources.
        There is some value in the details of what seems obvious, even if the basic premise holds

      • by Zeek40 (1017978)
        Yeah, but we're talking about psychology, which is about as scientific as tarot card readings.
    • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

      by Zeek40 (1017978)
      In related news, a three year long Canadian study that recently concluded has revealed that snow is cold and water is wet.
      • by saider (177166)

        Caveat: The University of Florida had trouble reproducing the snow experiment. Water was confirmed to be wet and also found to be infested with large reptiles.

      • by hedwards (940851)
        Wait a minute, sometimes snow is wet and water is cold. Or didn't they cover that in the previous study? Quick to the grant writer's office.
    • Re: (Score:2, Insightful)

      by Anonymous Coward
      Sure they do. The sort of people that do this type of study are also narcissists, and use bloody-fucking-obvious "research" to promote themselves, and make themselves seem important.
    • Re:...what ? (Score:5, Insightful)

      by vux984 (928602) on Wednesday September 08, 2010 @02:42PM (#33511532)

      They needed a fucking study to see that ?

      If they said it without a study we'd have a bunch of "[citation please]" followed by sarcastic comments that a few anecdotes are meaningless, and how they happen know a bunch of humble self-assured people who use facebook a lot too.

      So yes, they needed a fucking study. Its how we separate truth from truthiness. Science at work. Just because it confirms what most people might beleive is true doesn't make it unworthy of study. Sometimes looking into things that most people believe is true has surprising results.

    • They needed a fucking study to see that ?

      What they apparently didn't notice is that narcissists are always people with low self esteem (though the converse isn't necessarily true). The narcissist loves an image of themself that is improved or perfected in some way and does not correspond to their actual self. They do not hold their actual self in high esteem, which is why they create the image. Unfortunately, this situation is all too common, with sad effects for all concerned.

  • Among others... (Score:5, Insightful)

    by divisionbyzero (300681) on Wednesday September 08, 2010 @01:54PM (#33510696)

    No doubt they do. And they are probably among millions of others who go there to keep connected with friends that they wouldn't otherwise be able to. Vain people look in mirrors a lot. Does that mean only people who are vain own mirrors? What a ridiculous study.

    • by Sponge Bath (413667) on Wednesday September 08, 2010 @02:03PM (#33510846)
      You're so vain, you probably think this post is about you.
      • by jdgeorge (18767)

        Baloney. I'm a narcissist, but I'm not a frequent user of Facebook. In fact, the only reason I use Facebook at all is that it prevents ISPs from automatically filtering as spam the frequent emails I used to send to each of my 2,351,672 female admirers with photographs of me engaged in my latest adventure, and the regular helpful advice I send to my 14,843,590 less fortunate male friends about how to improve their physique or... ahem... performance... to more closely resemble my own and benefit their flaggin

  • by Rooked_One (591287) on Wednesday September 08, 2010 @01:54PM (#33510702) Journal
    You mean these people who used to (I deactivated my facebook account long ago) annoy the arse out of me with their childrens every bowel movement and that their workout was great are narcissists? And just want attention? I sense a book on facebook addiction and overcoming it coming out soon.
    • ...and here I was thinking they were all using Twitter for all that. Nothing makes you feel more important then tweeting to the world that you are driving to work, I mean everyone cares and takes the time about your mundane day to day tasks..... right? After all, Twitter is all about you, you, and you. For the insecure, nothing makes you feel more wanted then being able to follow celebrities... like Joy Behar.
    • Just wanted to add that while I was vacationing in Maui a few weeks ago (please see the pictures), I drank a coffee.. Yum. I'm going to quote some lyrics:

      "The sun so bright it leaves no shadows, only scars, carved into stone on the face of the earth."

      I like cameras and coffee and pens.

      I joined the group, "Lost is retarded."

      I just added Radiohead to my list of Likes.

      Here's my new picture. It's me with the Dolphin cheerleaders. Yes, that's me.

      Here's me at Hard Rock. I'm too cool for Hard Rock. I'm too cool

    • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

      by Joce640k (829181)

      There's this thing where you can block people or even entirely remove them from your 'friends'...

  • by drinkypoo (153816) <martin.espinoza@gmail.com> on Wednesday September 08, 2010 @01:54PM (#33510704) Homepage Journal

    I can't wait to hear what they have to say about Slashdot.

  • Shameless promoters? (Score:5, Interesting)

    by Haffner (1349071) on Wednesday September 08, 2010 @01:55PM (#33510712)
    Most of my friends that are still active facebookers tend to use it for business means. One amusing direction for facebook would be a bunch of promoters saying "Hey, come to my club, you're cool just for coming!" and narcissists thinking, "Yeah, I should definitely go, it'll make me look cooler!" and in the end, facebook will be win-win-win, where the promoters, the narcissists, and the sane minority all get their way.
    • Re: (Score:3, Funny)

      by hoggoth (414195)

      If by "club" you mean Sarlac Pit, then I'm all for it!

    • Heh, one of my FB friends (old highscool classmate) does indeed kinda flog his music-producer business although he does have some non-business posts in the mix.
      However, it's natural to expect people to talk about something they're enthusiastic about, financial or not

    • in the end, facebook will be win-win-win, where the promoters, the narcissists, and the sane minority all get their way.

      You forgot to mention Facebook itself, who sells ads to companies. Ads which don't link people to the company's external website, but to Facebook itself, driving up the cost of ads that it sells to companies...
    • I really like this part of it - I have some of the local venues on my list, so I get to see which acts are playing when with out going to a bunch of websites. That, and one club in particular likes to run a bunch of theme nights, and FB is handy for that.

      Besides, how else do you propose we organize a roving house party with in excess of 100 attendees every week for the post college crowd?

  • OTOH (Score:2, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward

    One could just as easily say the same about people who publish "studies."

  • by Thelasko (1196535) on Wednesday September 08, 2010 @01:55PM (#33510720) Journal
    everyone?
    • Nope, not me! I'm way better than all those silly narcissistic facebookers. Allow me to outline how, with a short, 100-item list...

  • Whatever (Score:2, Funny)

    by killmenow (184444)
    I just use it to play Farmville.
  • 100 people surveyed? Students? Sounds like there might be some sampling concerns there. How many people out of 100 are narcissists? Also, anyone know the reputability of the journal it was published in [liebertpub.com]?

    Mehdizadeh went on to say "that's why so many people get paranoid if their boss sees them on Facebook. They're worried that they don't project the same image there that they project in their workplace."

    Yeah or you know the reason the rest of us get nervous is the fact that you're not doing work if you're on Facebook. Unless he means 'on Facebook' outside of work and then it's probably closer to the fact that you can't always control what goes on on Facebook unless you don't allow anything on your page.

  • the real narcisists have their own vanity domains.

  • by helixcode123 (514493) on Wednesday September 08, 2010 @01:57PM (#33510748) Homepage Journal

    According to TFA the study sample involved college students. What about other demographic groups? For most of the more "mature" folks I know that use Facebook it's a means of keeping in touch with distant friends, or to maintain a bit of social connection in a life dominated by work and family obligations.

    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      by Anonymous Coward

      According to TFA the study sample involved college students. What about other demographic groups? For most of the more "mature" folks I know that use Facebook it's a means of keeping in touch with distant friends, or to maintain a bit of social connection in a life dominated by work and family obligations.

      Most studies involve students because researches work at universities.

      These same studies also cite a study which justifies the use of students for studies.

      I would cite it, but you clearly have not done any research, so neither will I.

  • by digitalsushi (137809) <slashdot@digitalsushi.com> on Wednesday September 08, 2010 @01:58PM (#33510760) Journal

    I found facebook as a great place to reconnect for the first time with girls that used to be pretty in high school, clinging to their pregnancy photos as though they were my own children, laughing with them.. printing them out and putting them on my fridge.. It's also a great place to have a decent, private conversation with your best friend's mom without him "getting all weird about this". A place for adults to communicate as they wish. A place for grownups.

  • Bad summary (Score:5, Informative)

    by UnknowingFool (672806) on Wednesday September 08, 2010 @01:58PM (#33510768)
    "Heaviest users of Facebook are Narcissists, Insecure" is more appropriate title.
    • Not only that, but the article never used the phrase "self promotion" as the Slashdot summary did. Self promotion has business purposes outside of narcissism. And, yes, I have gotten job offers from my Facebook profile (whereas with LinkedIn I get 10x as many but those are just leads).

      There is a lot of negative sentiment on Slashdot regarding Facebook, but I find it to be a great way to keep in contact with friends from the past. It's cheaper and more fun than sending 125 Christmas cards as I used to.

    • by mqduck (232646)

      That's pretty much redundant. Narcissists *are* insecure, requiring constant approval in order to maintain their self-esteem.

  • The theory is that these people use the site as a means of self promotion

    It's a fact. And look at all the businesses trying to do the same. And they're failing, for one simple reason - the facebook format is not conducive to conversations.

    Maybe Ellison can buy them and kill them off.

    • by corbettw (214229)

      Not all businesses who use Facebook for advertising are failing, simply because not all businesses need to communicate with their customers.

  • Though that overlaps with narcissism and low self esteem.
  • by scorp1us (235526) on Wednesday September 08, 2010 @02:00PM (#33510822) Journal

    Seriously.

  • Seems fitting. (Score:5, Insightful)

    by RyuuzakiTetsuya (195424) <taiki AT cox DOT net> on Wednesday September 08, 2010 @02:01PM (#33510824)

    Isn't Mark Zuckerberg known to be a complete jerk and a narcissist?

  • Is this really news? Southpark already pointed out the obvious. [southparkstudios.com]
  • Is it still arrogance if I actually am better than everyone else?

    • by tibman (623933)

      depends on which version of "better"

    • by robot256 (1635039)

      Is it still arrogance if I actually am better than everyone else?

      I've been wondering about that for a long time. I'm going to figure it out first, of course, because I am better than you.

  • Practicing drunk typing. It's family or friends reading it so they all recognize that uncle Alfredo is drunk again, and pay me no mind
  • that shows people who eat candy like sugar. Ain't breakthrough insights great?
  • by cshay (79326) on Wednesday September 08, 2010 @02:23PM (#33511218)
    In remember when I only heard the word "narcissist" and "narcissism" in the college classroom and in self help books. But in the last 2 years I think its usage has been climbing dramatically. Anyone with Lexus-Nexus access care to check? I think it was a lyric in a few pop songs so maybe that's the cause.....
    • Re: (Score:3, Funny)

      by straponego (521991)
      I think you mean Lexis-Nexis, but you'll definitely find more narcissists at the Lexus Nexus. All of them far too important to use a turn signal.
  • That's what I use slashdot for.

  • Sample Size (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Shin Dig (27213) on Wednesday September 08, 2010 @02:29PM (#33511324) Homepage

    Note, this study had a sample size of 100 college students, possibly self selected (selection criteria wasn't readily presented). It's really dubious to make a generalization on that.

  • Of course they flock [flock.com] to Facebook. Doesn't everybody?
  • Or do they just post journals to slashdot?
  • If you see people with 1000+ friends, they don't have 1000+ friends to converse & be friends with, that's just 1000+ people they can broadcast to.

    If you see someone that adds you as a friend, but never comments on any of your wall posts, you're just another viewer to their wall posts. It may or may not have commercial promotions involved.

    If you have someone that adds you as a friend, but doesn't talk to you if you saw them in person, well, that's a mystery to me. Maybe you were interesting to them at on

    • by radtea (464814)

      If you see people with 1000+ friends, they don't have 1000+ friends to converse & be friends with, that's just 1000+ people they can broadcast to.

      A guy I know slightly commented, "Calling the people you're connected to on Facebook or Twitter 'friends' is ridiculous. How many of them would help you move your couch?"

      • by robot256 (1635039)

        If you see people with 1000+ friends, they don't have 1000+ friends to converse & be friends with, that's just 1000+ people they can broadcast to.

        A guy I know slightly commented, "Calling the people you're connected to on Facebook or Twitter 'friends' is ridiculous. How many of them would help you move your couch?"

        Or bail you out of jail? Or drive you to alcohol treatment? Or bail you out of jail again? Seriously, what are friends for?

  • by Infonaut (96956) <infonaut@gmail.com> on Wednesday September 08, 2010 @02:36PM (#33511462) Homepage Journal

    I find it humorous that so many Slashdotters bag on Facebook users, who are apparently self-absorbed. Tell me you don't give a rat's ass how your Slashdot comments are moderated. Tell me you've never looked to see how many people are interested in reading your comments. I know there will always be those who profess to be completely disinterested in their social standing in Slashdot, but methinks the number who actually don't give a damn is smaller than the number who make that claim.

    • by roman_mir (125474)

      well, if /. is the main way to socialize, then certainly, you'd care about those things. My comments end up being moderated up and then almost inevitably down because my opinions are not accepted, I still post though, I guess after all these years it's a habit.

    • by robot256 (1635039)

      Do people care what others think about their facebook posts? Do they think "Oh damn, I should have reworded my status update about those burned noodles, the grammar nazis are totally going to get me." I didn't think so.

      There's a difference between not letting the world get you down, and not giving a shit if you annoy them for no reason. That's the difference between slashdot and facebook.

  • ..and that's still not enough!!!

  • My kid was in the hospital _everyone_ wanted updates. This makes it very easy.

    Take some pics/videos of my kids. I can post them. Other folks can check them out if they want to.

    This way I don't have to e-mail spam.

    I like to be able to follow the happenings of friends without e-mail/phone.

    All that being said I rarely update and spend about 30 minutes a week on facebook.

    In my mind that 30 minutes is well worth it.

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