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Skype Officially Available For Android

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  • At last! (Score:5, Interesting)

    by metageek (466836) on Tuesday October 05, 2010 @08:57AM (#33793252)

    At last! but how soon are carriers going to block its traffic?

    • Re:At last! (Score:4, Insightful)

      by gl4ss (559668) on Tuesday October 05, 2010 @09:17AM (#33793420) Homepage Journal
      proper carriers? never. in usa 3g use is disabled, apparently. outside of usa 3g is a go. blame the carriers if you're in usa - and also skype, since skype could have released it in a totally connection-neutral form. but they didn't.
    • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

      by generalhavok (1432165)
      If I recall, no US carrier has ever allowed VOIP traffic on 3g. On my AT&T iPhone, Skype has to use WiFi. Appears to be the same case on my Verizon Droid too. I recently went on a trip to Russia. I bought a cheap SIM card with a data plan for my (jailbroken) iPhone, and just out of curiosity, I launched Skype, it it let me place a call right over 3g! That saved me a lot of money for calling my family back home. Not to mention that cell phone plans and data is cheaper there than in the US too. Amazing wh
      • If you're on iPhone and you're jailbroken get 3g Unrestrictor (I think that's what they're calling it now) off of Cydia. Once you've used it to fool Skype into thinking it's on WiFi you can make all the voip calls you want. It's the one thing I miss after making the switch to Android, I haven't found something comparable to it yet.
        • If that works it should also be possible to make Skype calls from an N900.

          But transitioning from using cell providers' numbers to using Skype (or Google Voice) is hardly an improvement, although it could be a decent stopgap solution. The problem is it's still controlled entirely by one company. We need to transition to SIP, ideally using SIP URIs on a domain you control. That would make voice calling as free as email.

      • by darjen (879890)

        Last year before I got my Droid, I used pure voip/sip with gizmo over ATT 3g with my nokia e71. Quality was severely lacking though, not nearly good enough for regular use. Not sure if they throttled that traffic or what. Never tried it with symbian's skype client as that application just plain sucked.

  • One step closer? (Score:3, Insightful)

    by Bill_the_Engineer (772575) on Tuesday October 05, 2010 @08:58AM (#33793262)

    One step closer to the carriers being just... carriers.

    Let me introduce you to the wonderful world of pay-as-you-go data plans with an android phone.

    • If enough customers defect to other carriers rather than renew their contract to AT&T and Verizon's new tiered data garbage they will have to drop the idea. I don't have much hope in this happening but when my renewal comes up I will do my part.
  • Cool (Score:5, Interesting)

    by Pojut (1027544) on Tuesday October 05, 2010 @09:00AM (#33793280) Homepage

    It would be interesting to see how this affects battery life. I love my Eris, but the battery life on the stock battery is pretty suck. Would something like Skype drain a battery faster than calling someone using the 'phone' portion of the device?

    • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

      by bemymonkey (1244086)

      I haven't measured power consumption during actual calls, but during standby the Skype app seems very well behaved. According to Currentwidget, my phone draws about 5mA during standby with Skype running... same as without Skype. :)

    • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

      by Sockatume (732728)

      Depending on your distance from the tower and the access point, it could be quite a lot less. I've certainly had situations where I've had a very poor cell signal and strong wi-fi, and thus the wi-fi has been more reliable and more power-thrifty.

    • If Skype on the iPhone is any indication, yes, it will drain battery life a great deal faster than using the stock phone. And, if you're using it over wifi (which I believe is the only way it's currently available on Android), that will also probably result in your device heating up considerably more than using the phone as well. Again, if my experience using it on my iPhone is any indication (and I see no real reason for the Android version to be significantly different...).
    • Re:Cool (Score:4, Informative)

      by tlhIngan (30335) <slashdotNO@SPAMworf.net> on Tuesday October 05, 2010 @11:24AM (#33794704)

      It would be interesting to see how this affects battery life. I love my Eris, but the battery life on the stock battery is pretty suck. Would something like Skype drain a battery faster than calling someone using the 'phone' portion of the device?

      Yes, but mostly during a call, and a tiny bit less when idle. When the phone is idle, the main CPU is basically stopped and drawing very little power. Having Skype in the background does nothing to affect this as it's also waiting for a control datagram and thus blocked waiting.

      However, the phone may be maintaining a data channel waiting for the datagram to come - this can involve a bit more power from the modem to keep the channel alive, and a tiny bit of main CPU to handle higher layer data connection administrivia (keep-alives and the like).

      But during a call, the power goes up a lot. During a normal voice call, the main CPU again shuts down as it's not needed for the most part and the audio is routed direct to the modem where it's compressed, encoded and sent over the air by dedicated hardware. Using something like Skype, however, means the audio has to go tot he main CPU, where the Skype application then encodes it into packets, and those packets are then passed to the OS (also running on the main CPU) as network data. It goes down the network stack, then down to the data port of the modem where the modem then packages it for over the air. But an active data connection also costs more power, and the main CPU is active during a VoIP call but idle during a normal voice call, both of which add significant drain to the battery.

      If you're on the phone a lot, VoIP may require you to carry an extra battery. If you're like me who hardly makes a call longer than 30 seconds a couple of times per day, you won't notice the extra drain.

  • More detail... (Score:4, Informative)

    by GraemeDonaldson (826049) <graeme@@@donaldson...za...net> on Tuesday October 05, 2010 @09:02AM (#33793300) Homepage
    • If you're in the US, only WiFi for you (presumably doesn't apply if you have a Verizon device with their bundled version)
    • If you're in China or Japan, no Skype for you!
    • Android 2.1+ required
    • Minimum screen res of 320x480 required

    Also, it's 9MB, there's a link to the .apk for those of us with metered data plans: com.skype.raider.apk [multiupload.com].

    • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

      by zero.kalvin (1231372)
      I am using on Android 2.0 , It says nothing on 2.1 being required.
    • Re: (Score:2, Informative)

      by kzharv (175360)

      Why no skype in Japan?
      I see no such restriction after installing on 2 phones here in Tokyo....

    • by Excelsior (164338)

      A link to an apk on a random file hosting site?!? Seriously? If you did the same thing with an exe you'd be flamed and hung from the Slashdot rafters. It should be the same with an apk, but everyone seems somehow fine with installing apks from random places with who knows what nasty code buried inside. One of these days everyone is going to get pwned by one of these hosted apk files.

  • by Anonymous Coward

    No 3G calling from the US---curse you Verizon!

    • by Yvanhoe (564877)
      Once again, someone is not providing a real internet access.
      • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

        by victorhooi (830021)

        heya,

        Why not try a VPN provider, like StrongVPN, and use it with your Android phone?

        You should be able to tunnel VoIP/Skype through this.

        Cheers,
        Victor

  • access rights? (Score:3, Interesting)

    by mercurized (907818) on Tuesday October 05, 2010 @09:04AM (#33793320)
    I am still confused as of why that application wants access to all my accounts on the phone, and even wants to be able to use those other accounts as authentification method to some other unspecified purposes..
    • I don't think it asks permission for what you think it does. It's two separate things its asks permission to do:

      1. Read and write contacts

      2. Gain some sort of recognition in Android's auth system. It may be that it registers itself as an authentication method (kind of like your google or facebook login can be used to identify you elsewhere), or that it makes use of such authentication services, I didn't look too closely. Either way, it's nothing to worry about.

  • by anti-NAT (709310) on Tuesday October 05, 2010 @09:06AM (#33793334) Homepage

    Why do the slashdot crowd rally against closed and proprietary data formats like MS Word documents, but not closed and proprietary VoIP protocols?

    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      by _merlin (160982)

      Because at the core, they're cheapskates. MS Office costs money while OpenOffice doesn't, so it's convenient to find other supporting reasons to hate MS Office. OTOH, they see Skype and think "free calls!" so all is forgiven.

      • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

        by quenda (644621)

        Because at the core, they're cheapskates.

        Then why not rally against Skype, in favour of SIP? SIP providers can be much cheaper than Skype, especially for calls to mobiles here (Oz).
        Most high-end Nokia phones support SIP over 3G just as well as a cellular call. N900 treats SIP, Skype and Mobile equally.
        It uses g729, which is patent-encumbered but otherwise open, and there are alternatives.

        • by Rob Kaper (5960)

          Because at the core, they're cheapskates.

          Then why not rally against Skype, in favour of SIP?

          Amen. SIP providers have given me better rates than SkypeOut for years now. I keep Skype around for those who insist on using it to reach me, but I'd rather switch them to vendor-neutral VoIP.

        • I use Fring with SIP. The issue with SIP however is the user base. A lot of people have a Skype account, and SIP usage is more hit and miss. Also there is no one centralized SIP directory. That hampers its use.
    • Re: (Score:2, Insightful)

      Because MS is a big, evil, multibillion dollar corporation, but Skype is a free and wonderful...and what? It's actually the property of a multibillion dollar corporation? And they just poached an executive from another multibillion dollar corporation in order to find more ways to draw revenue from their service? Damn. Actually, I think it has more to do with the perceived quality of MS's products and services. True or not, they have a reputation.
    • by forkazoo (138186) <wrosecrans&gmail,com> on Tuesday October 05, 2010 @09:14AM (#33793402) Homepage

      Why do the slashdot crowd rally against closed and proprietary data formats like MS Word documents, but not closed and proprietary VoIP protocols?

      It's not that we love closed protocols. We don't. We simply hate the phone company more.

      • by javilon (99157)

        Actually, once the phone company is just a carrier, it will be so much easier to run open source VoIP products as the phone company won't try to actively stop us from using them. Having skype on cellphones gets us half way along that path.

    • Why do the slashdot crowd rally against closed and proprietary data formats like MS Word documents, but not closed and proprietary VoIP protocols?

      My son, attend to my words; incline thine ear unto my sayings. Let them not depart from thine eyes; keep them in the midst of thine heart.
      Therefore I implore you to blindly believe that MS be scum bags. As well as Darl McBride. And that most other creations of god are but meek.

      Oh, and Skype has a very large installed base. So we want it. And then we will whine as soon as Skype takes advantage.

    • by Vintermann (400722) on Tuesday October 05, 2010 @09:24AM (#33793502) Homepage

      In this case, the closed and proprietary VoIP protocol enables people to work around price discrimination on closed and proprietary wires.

      • by Albanach (527650)

        In this case, the closed and proprietary VoIP protocol enables people to work around price discrimination on closed and proprietary wires.

        But surely there are decent SIP clients for Android? My 4 year old Nokia E Series can do native SIP voip calls over 3G or WIFI, integrating fully with the built in phonebook. I can select a number from the phone book and call it over the cellphone network or through my asterisk box at home. My cell phone can act as a local extension of the home phone system.

        It doesn't do

    • by Duradin (1261418) on Tuesday October 05, 2010 @09:28AM (#33793556)

      Skype is a lot like Flash when it comes to slashbots.

      Before Apple said "no Flash on our devices" Flash was absolutely worthless and evil.

      As soon as Apple said no Flash on their devices Flash was a saint in the process of being martyred by evil tech-heathens.

      So in any other context (or previous threads) Skype is the epitome of the corruptness and wastefulness (OMG it uses bandwidth even when you're not talking!!!) of closed source. Now that it is available to the droidbois it is the symbol of freedom, sticking to the (telecom) man.

    • Re: (Score:2, Insightful)

      by niftydude (1745144)
      Well I don't know about the rest of the slashdot crowd - but I always choose sip and open voip codecs over skype where possible - and every linux nerd I know with any street cred at all runs an asterisk pbx server in their home - even if they don't actually have anyone to call.

      People here like to hang shit on nokia and symbian - but the nokia e-series of mobile phones have had working voip over 3g for a very long time.
      • by tehcyder (746570)

        every linux nerd I know with any street cred at all

        LOL, I'm not sure "street cred" is the right phrase here. I think you meant "geek cred".

        Street cred is what you get by shooting a man in Reno just to see him die.

    • by shish (588640) on Tuesday October 05, 2010 @09:46AM (#33793690) Homepage

      Why do the slashdot crowd

      If you're going to generalise all of slashdot as a single entity with a single opinion, why not ask yourself? You are part of it :P

      rally against closed and proprietary data formats like MS Word documents, but not closed and proprietary VoIP protocols?

      Personally I'm not so much anti-closed as anti-suck. Closedness sucks politically, so I generally prefer open; but in this case all the other VoIP products suck technically and to a much larger degree

    • Good question: Why do Slashdoters care about a closed protocol on a closed platform?

      Slashdot used to be a place where we made fun of people who wanted their closed protocols on their closed platforms. Now its a bunch of Apple fans and corporate apologists.
      I've been using SIP and Skype and Jabber and etc on my N900 for months. Get a clue people!
      I'm pining for the good old days. I must be getting old.

      • by Duradin (1261418)

        Apple used to be part of the "in" crowd here so you may not want the old "good old days".

        I suggest the period right after the famous Nomad comparison. The Apple hate is nice and fresh.

    • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

      by Weezul (52464)

      Skype has two big advantages over SIP :

      (1) Skype does not require the cooperation of sysadmins because Skype was built by people willing to break the rules. Skype just works unless sysadmins specifically fight it. SIP not so much.

      Solution : We need slightly more expensive SIP providers that proxy your traffic when necessary for bypassing network restrictions and incompetent sysadmins.. as well as variations on SIP that use a Skype-like P2P proxy approach.

      (2) Skype dramatically simplifies the installation

    • I absolutely point-blank refuse to use Skype for exactly that reason.

      So, what's a good VoIP client for Android? I have a legacy Gizmo SIP account I use with my Linux desktop.

      I'm aware of IMSdroid [google.com], SIPdroid [sipdroid.org], Linphone [linphone.org] and Fring [fring.com], but I haven't seen anyone do a good comparative review.

      • by xaxa (988988)

        Adding to this: I've used Skype once before, and I just installed it on my phone and it seems like it could be useful. I'd prefer to use something else though, if it does what I need it to do.

        Where do I start with SIP? I'm not really sure what the possibilities are, or who (if anyone) I need an account with, etc. It seems Google offer some kind of SIP service.

        I'd like to
        1) be able to call another user of the same service
        2) call UK numbers over my broadband connection (I'm in the UK, but my brick house block

  • Don't you pay more for data traffic than you do for voice traffic? Skype can give you free VOIP but then you have to pay more to the carrier for the data traffic. About the only thing I can see this being good for is international calls, which usually aren't included in your free minutes you get in your plan.

    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      by Jimmy King (828214)
      That depends. It says it supports wifi and there are wifi hotspots on practically every corner where I live and many of them are free and of course the wifi in my house is free for me to use. The carriers all (I believe all of them, anyway) require an "unlmited" (with varying defintions of unlimited) data plan with Android phones, so depending on how much data skype actually uses and how much you use for other stuff, it may still be a viable option if you're over on your voice minutes or whatever.
    • by PPalmgren (1009823) on Tuesday October 05, 2010 @09:20AM (#33793450)

      Voice traffic is very small when in a data format, and no, data is much cheaper. Assuming a megabyte a minute (which is probably on the high end), 5 gigs at $30/mo is 2000 minutes. My 1400 minute family plan is $80/mo.

      I think this is why carriers are instituting data tiers.

      • Mega Fail, missed the edit button. 5 gigs at $30/mo is 5000 minutes.

      • Guess it's pretty carrier dependent.

        My "Family plan" is $60 ($50 basic + $10 extra phone) for 550 minutes; my data plan is 200MB for $15 (or 2GB for $25). Thing is, I have to pay $40-50 just to connect to the network - I've never seen a data only plan *for a phone* with more than 100-200MB/month, and they're usually about $60. It seems that its not the cost of data, but the cost of being always on the network (fixed costs).

        Still, it's nice to have options. I recently was on a golf outing at a remote hotel

    • by Xest (935314)

      Depends where you're calling, someone in the same country, on the same network as you, sure. But someone on a different network in a country over the other side of the closest ocean to you?

  • ...are only available to installations outside the US, I think.

  • But how do you quit? (Score:4, Interesting)

    by Cormacus (976625) on Tuesday October 05, 2010 @09:15AM (#33793412) Homepage
    The idea of voip calling over WIFI is kindof nice, but this app rubs me the wrong way immediately with its lack of a "quit" button. Once you start it up, it sits there in the background until you reboot your phone (or go kill the app from the settings menu, I know). I wouldn't go as far as to call this "sinister" but it isn't exactly customer friendly, either.
    • by Movi (1005625)

      This is how all of android apps work, by design.

      • by Cormacus (976625)
        Well, since I happen to have a convenient Android phone right here, I will rise to your unhelpful response.

        ConnectBot
        - explicit button in the menu to kill the current connection
        - the "back" button quits the app

        AndroidVNC
        - the "back" button quits the app

        Outlook mail client
        - the "back" button quits the app

        MapDroyd
        - the "back" button quits the app

        Google Maps
        - the "back" button quits the app

        Google "Talk"
        - a button in the menu allows you to sign out, so . . .
        - the "back" button then quits the
        • by robmv (855035)

          So the bug is the absence of an easily accessible signout button, no that the app does not exit, the grand parent is right Android was designed so apps do not need to be closed by the user, because apps without background threads are not wasting resources, and apps must expect that the system will kill them if needed. Apps on Android that really kill the process are not following the Android way of work, but for some kind of apps that is right (games with exit button for example)

          Google Talk process does not

        • by Movi (1005625)

          With the exception of connectBot, all of those you listed do not in literal sense quit the app, or close it. You can just as well press the home button, with the exact same effect - the application in question will be kept in memory, and the process will not be destroyed, unless Android deems it necessary.

          What IS true however, is that you cannot sign-off, thus Skype marks itself active, and Android will not attempt to close it (and free it's resources) like it should. But I've corrected myself about

    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      by delinear (991444)
      Well, two things - firstly the point of Skype is generally that you're available and logged in. If everyone used it as you're suggesting, you'd never be able to call someone without pre-arranging it. Whether that makes sense in the context of Skype on a mobile, we'll have to wait and see, it's early days. Secondly, most Android apps behave this way, in fact I think I've yet to encounter an in-app "quit" option, unless it's buried in the settings menu, so if this is not customer friendly, it's an accusation
      • by Cormacus (976625)
        Thanks for the well-articulated response. I was probably too quick to post complaining about a lack of a "quit" button. However most Android apps, though lacking a "quit" button, quit when you use the back button to get back to the home page. In the case of an app that is intended to stay logged in you're right that that doesn't make sense, and I did eventually find the "sign out" setting that then causes the "back" button to quit the app.
      • Re: (Score:2, Interesting)

        by ravnous (301936)

        But most apps will let you press the back button until you're out of the app. This actually does save you some memory because the activity that was active will unload when you back out of it, as opposed to continuing to run in the background when you press the home button. Most apps that need to run in the background will have a service component that runs in the background, and a UI activity that lets you interact with it. If you kill the UI by backing out of it, the service component still runs in the bac

      • Well, two things - firstly the point of Skype is generally that you're available and logged in.

        Sure, unless you just want to stop the application. There's a Quit menu on Skype on my notebook after all.

        The fact that most applications don't terminate doesn't mean Skype shouldn't. It's nuts to need task killers because certain developers just couldn't be arsed to finish the job at hand.

  • ... the most horrendous of which is the same one more or less all other Android instant messaging apps have:

    After about 10-20 minutes of the phone idling, the app is just closed in the background. Notification icon stays put, so you don't notice it, but when you try to actually open Skype again, it starts up right at the login screen and procedes to log in again. Nearly all the other instant messaging apps I've tried also exhibit this behaviour: Meebo, Nimbuzz, eBuddy, IM+ 3.x...

    Other than that it's not bad

    • Are you sure this isn't actually a problem with your specific version of Android? Not that I've even tried any instant messaging apps on my phone yet, but some versions of Android are better than others depending on how much the carrier has screwed around with them.

      • I've been using mainly Cyanogenmod based Desire ROMs, but I got exactly the same behaviour on my old Moto Milestone...I know it sounds stupid. but I get the feeling that most people just don't realize that the apps are no longer running - the notification bar icon doesn't disappear, after all.

        • Fair enough. It may have caused my touchscreen to start acting funny too, I ended up resetting my Streak and haven't tried the app again. It doesn't even have video calling, which was the only reason I installed it (had a whim to test out the video calling on my device, as I haven't tried it yet).

          • My Desire touchscreen got a little funky too, but a reboot solved that, and I haven't had the problem again even though I have the Skype app running again.

            Actually thought it was a fluke...

  • Google Voice (Score:3, Informative)

    by EasyRhino (109776) on Tuesday October 05, 2010 @09:24AM (#33793500) Homepage

    Re: Allows calling via 3G and WiFi.

    This was already available via the Google Voice app. It even has integration with the phone app to be the default method to make calls.

    • by faedle (114018)

      At least on any Android device I've ever used the Google Voice app does not deliver calls to your handset over VoIP, it delivers it by making a phone call from your handset to a special phone number (or by delivering a call to your handset FROM a special number).

    • by gambino21 (809810)

      Google Voice on Android does not provide VOIP. It works by first calling a google voice access number and then patching you through to the number you're trying to call. This can help for things like international calls, but it still uses up your minutes. Some plans have an option where you can make unlimited calls to certain numbers, and to the phone company it appears that you are just calling the google voice number again and again. So it can help you if you tend to max out your minutes to a variety o

  • FTFA: The app supports a number of languages, including Brazilian Portuguese, Danish, Dutch, English, Estonian, Finnish, French, German, Italian, Japanese, Korean, Spanish, Swedish, Polish, Russian, Simplified Chinese & Traditional Chinese.

    I don't always call my Basque friends from abroad., but when I do I prefer Skype.

    "Mantendu egarri, nire lagun."
  • it doesn't work on Sprint's 4G network either, it really is just WiFi only.

    This doesn't really bother me, since I generally only use Skype as a fallback if there's no cell service available to me at all, so really it's doing just what I want. For long-distance calling when I have a signal, I generally stick with Google Voice which works great over regular cell networks, but has no VOIP option yet on Android. Once Google adds wifi calling, I'll be pretty close to saying bye-bye to Skype for paid services.

  • It doesn't work in landscape mode for several panels, so you get to rotate your phone manually. The stupid notification that won't go away is lovely, and there is no way to merge contacts. Also, 9MB? Seriously? Maybe later, but I doubt it.

  • Just until CISCO will buy Skype. Then everything will revert back to normal operation.
  • VoIP or Skype on a cell isn't necessarily the best solution. My findings with using the two extensively:

    - Unusable voice quality while driving. To many breakups, jitter, total silence for like 30 sec
    - Same for using it over 3G, even in an area with great coverage
    - Performs great on wifi via cell but only if within very close range to one's router
    - Voice quality using it on a PC with a headset/microphone is vastly superior than using Skype via cell; via cell isn't clear enough, yet doesn't filter out backgro

  • One step closer to the carriers being just... carriers.

    Duh, SIP should already exist for Android just like it does for Symbian.

    Skype is a halfbaked lock-in solution.

    • by Malc (1751)

      Skype is awesome. I used it every day at work (colleagues in China, Germany, UK and USA). I use it several times a week to stay in touch with family and friends around the country and world. It works on my Mac at home, my work PC, my iPhone and now apparently on my partner's Android-based Samsung phone. When I travel, I can be sure to find anywhere in the world it's available, without having to take a computer or phone with me. It's one of the cheapest ways to make international phone calls, or send in

  • App permissions? (Score:4, Interesting)

    by Graftweed (742763) on Tuesday October 05, 2010 @10:41AM (#33794240)

    As much as I love the idea of an easy to use and ubiquitous VoIP application that I carry with me everywhere in my pocket -- insane 3G data rates and prorietary protocols notwhithstanding -- I have to question some of the permissions it's requesting.

    Maybe this is due to me not fully understanding the Android permissions model, in which case I hope someone will clarify what these mean, but aren't these a little overreaching?

    Read and write contact data - I assume this means the Skype app stores contact data in the phone's address book, but it also gives it access to all my other contact data (local or google contacts).

    Coarse location - In my experience coarse location, when requested in heavily populated areas, is just as accurate as fine (GPS) location. Why does Skype need to know exactly where I'm standing in order to route my VoIP calls? The desktop application seems to do fine without it.

    Act as an account authenticator, manage the accounts list, use the authentication credentials of an account - Does Skype use the Android accounts and sync framework, like a regular Google account does? And, like the contact data, I'm pretty sure this also means it has access to all the other Google account authentication credentials stored on the phone.

    I'm pretty sure all of these permissions are requested for legitimate reasons, but from what I can understand it also means the Skype app has access to some pretty sensitive information, basically your whole Google account. Am I correct?

  • I got a app update on my Ally last week and they are forcing a 3G only Skype on us. It can't be uninstalled. I haven't made calls with it yet but I have used a chatroom and it worked well.

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