Iran Says It Has Detected Second Cyber Attack 91
fysdt writes "Iran has been targeted by a second computer virus in a 'cyber war' waged by its enemies, its commander of civil defense said on Monday. Gholamreza Jalali told the semi-official Mehr news agency that the new virus, called 'Stars,' was being investigated by experts."
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Hey Iran. I got a better virus for you.
STARS!!!!! [penny-arcade.com]
Really, sometimes these guys are too easy...
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Israel and Iran got along fine until Iran's 1979 Islamic Revolution. Nowadays Iran is the chief financier of Hezbollah and Hamas.
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I don't consider negotiating for hostages "[getting]" on just fine". And you didn't address how today Iran is the chief financier of Hezbollah and Hamas.
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Iran's history only trashed by the Ayatollah's rev (Score:5, Insightful)
The Shah, for all the domestic failings he may or may not have had, oversaw a prosperous, pluralistic nation which was a good international neighbor and not consumed by hatred for scapegoats. Iran did not participate in either the War of Israeli Independence, Sinai War, Six Day War, or the Yom Kippur War.
The Ayatollah appealed to the basest instincts and transformed a nation with a rich history into a one dimensional den of hatred and troublemaking.
Before and after, the majority were muslim, but the "after" brand is unrecognizable compared to the "before."
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The Shah, for all the domestic failings he may or may not have had, oversaw a prosperous, pluralistic nation
It was also a very liberal nation - perhaps the most liberal nation in the Islamic world - where women did not have to wear anything on their heads and could be seen in miniskirts and high heels.
Religious minorities such as Zoroastrians and Baha'i were'nt oppressed and Christians and Jews could marry who the fuck they wanted.
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Before and after pictures: Cairo University (Score:5, Informative)
My mother who grew up in Tehran went to school, drove a Benz and who's mother ran the grocery store that my parents owned. Then the Shah was overthrown and my entire family (aunts/uncles/cousins etc) left for the US. The Ayatolla regressed 100 years of progress.
An interesting pictorial:
Photographs [aina.org] of students at Cairo University. Pay special attention to the hairstyles/headdress that the women in the pictures have. In the first pictures, you could mistake this photo for any university in the mid 50s. While in 2004, you'd never confuse this for some university in the middle of Oklahoma.
Re:Iran's history only trashed by the Ayatollah's (Score:4, Interesting)
It makes you think about how much of the unrest in the world today can be traced back to Jimmy Carter's horrid leadership during that crisis. If he had backed the Shah, how would the mideast be different today? Perhaps no Mujahideen , no al queda, no taliban...
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Before Carter, believe it or not, the US had military posts in Iran.
Carter was well meaning, but he should have kept the Shah propped up, and not pulled the US out of Iran (they were in Iran at behest of the Iranian government, not because they were occupying the country in any way.) Of course, the Revolutionaries won two decisive victories when Carter let the Shah fell. They betrayed Carter, and were able to keep their power by the anti-Shah propaganda. No, the Shah was not perfect; he was a dictator, b
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Re:Next worm: "Stripes" (Score:4, Insightful)
Israel ain't the one threatening to destroy Iran, though. Come down from your fifty-thousand-foot view some time and examine the issue critically.
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Actually it does and Israel has the nukes to do it. Whereas, despite us MEMRI misinformation, Iran has never threatened to destroy Israel.
makes sense (Score:3, Funny)
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Didn't you know? Stars are the ancient enemy of Al-Ilah the Moon Deity, the forces of the Djinn, who fight against the Holy Angels and seek to corrupt humans.
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> Of course, such attacks are always foiled by brave patriots. And thus no damage
> is ever produced - no need for inconvenient proof.
And you forget one more use. The ever ready excuse. An aging poorly maintained facility goes foom! Accept blame or play the cyber card. Imagine you are Imanutjob in Iran. Your Russian designed and built of crap brought in through an international blockade reactor goes foom! and radiates a million people. Accept blame or claim the Joooossss! and the Great Satan sabot
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I hear you, the cyber attacks on Georgia and Estonia never happened....all a conspiracy by the CIA...they are behind everything...even the things of which they are in front.
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I hear you, the cyber attacks on Georgia and Estonia never happened....all a conspiracy by the CIA...they are behind everything...even the things of which they are in front.
Of course - you only see the CIA agents you're supposed to see.
On a more serious note - that's the fun thing about this environment (I suppose it applies to espionage in general - forest of mirrors and all that). There really ARE shenanigans going on. But the exact nature and motivations aren't always clear. And because of this ambiguity and past history, it becomes very easy to either see enemies in the shadows or claim that there are enemies as a cynical fiction intended to motivate others.
I say t
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Re:stuxnet vs CA vs hashstamp (Score:1)
By hashstamp, I mean that you post the hash of whatever, and the post is datestamped and can't be edited or deleted, although it would be nice to have a "flag", indicating that someone has paid X dollars to claim that their password was stolen and so the hashstamp is possibly invalid, or even that such a challenge has been validated.
To automate this, a filename such as e.g. deskPane_w.....zip MUST begin with a dot-com name fby underscore. A hashstamp-server might send
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That's not the point here. The Iranian people gain nothing from nuclear weapons testing, so this won't affect them. Good riddance.
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However, despite it all, things are starting to turn around for Iraq. Their democracy has issues, but it is surviving. Their electricity production has finally passed what it was before the invasion. People are living mostly in peace.
Of course there are a lot of issues, but can you really say that in ten years, things will be better in Syria? Maybe they wil
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Now, I don't care how bad you feel for what the US did with Mossadegh, you'd have to be utterly insane to favor nuclear weapons in the hands of someone who wants to destroy you. This should be obvious.
Also, being invaded by another country is not necessarily worse than dicta
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Actually, it's most likely to increase the number of these attacks against USA.
Why do you think that?
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But, I agree with you about the nukes. If we can stop them long enough for sanctions to kill their government, then we have done OK. Personally, I am sick and
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As to the execution of the war, it's been rather muddled and directionless. If we're going to do something, we ought to at least do it right.
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Poor Article (Score:1)
"Fortunately, our young experts have been able to discover this virus and the Stars virus is now in the laboratory for more investigations," Jalali was quoted as saying. He did not specify the target of Stars or its intended impact. "The particular characteristics of the Stars virus have been discovered," Jalali said. "The virus is congruous and harmonious with the (computer) system and in the initial phase it does minor damage and might be mistaken for some executive files of government organisations."
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... some executive files of government organizations....
Iranian euphemism for goat porn.
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I bet they're running scared now, because the fact of the matter is that they can never again be certain that a worm is not operating surreptitiously on their systems. So what else do we expect them to say?
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Build their own OS? Expensive, needs time and no fun for the top developers.
Import a one task "black box" OS from Europe/Asia for sub sets of the production line? Expose their funding/procurement networks as the expensive new OS is sold and then sabotaged again?
Do the best with Windows but finally understand it should have never been trusted?
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I agree with you. This is what I had meant to convey.. perhaps these attacks are already too entrenched in their systems for them to continue with any modicum of confidence.
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General System Order 1) - Fly someone to France and then to Detroit. Have them download the Linux flavor of your choice and fly back to Iran. Install your Linux flavor of your choice on clean hardware with resin filled USB ports, locked cases, and a network with no internet connection. Buy a DSL line and connect to a single terminal for all your goat porn needs.
Anyway, I'm pretty sure Oppenheimer didn't need Linux to make yellow cake.
Seriously, this is just ridiculous. The real problem isn't that they a
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Knee-jerk reaction #1 (Score:2)
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Well it wasn't said if it is a RED STAR or STAR and stripes (RAID virus) so commies are not out of the question yet.
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> Gee, the Israelis and Americans sure are cyber-stupid to try the same
> cyber-thing twice on you guys!
Dunno, what else we got? Even the crazed cowboy warmonger Bush didn't have the stones to pull the trigger on a raid on Iran's nuke program and with President Zero even a threat of physical force[1] isn't credible. And with the current state of near hostilities between Zero's minions and Israel these days the hope of them riding in on a white jet and solving the problem for the world isn't that high
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Support any foe, oppose any friend seems to be the current administration's motto. Perhaps they misheard JFK or something... or perhaps they are just on the other f*ck*ng side.
You mean how the Bush family has intentionally, deliberately, knowingly, and willfully done business with both the Nazis (Prescott Bush ran a corporation whose sole purpose was to funnel funds to the S.S., the "business end" of the Nazi Party) and with the Bin Ladens for years and years?
Your mistake is believing that Obama and Bush are not on the same team. Understanding politics in America? You fail it.
Doubtful (Score:5, Funny)
Whoops! My Bad! (Score:2)
I thought it was the Dancing with the Stars host.
(Must remember not to drink and hack.)
A nickel's worth of free advice (Score:2)
Hey, Iran, maybe you shouldn't be replying to those Nigerian scam emails instead of blaming it on your enemies. Just sayin'.
Just about only target I'm happy to see... (Score:2)
... taken down.
I'm not a hacker by inclination (or ability!) and I normally look dimly upon vigilantees who take it upon themselves to bring about "justice". But in this case I'm happy to see the Iranian nuclear program stalled through almost any means possible; to imagine their president Ahmadinejad having a nuke is almost as bad as imaging the Taliban/Al Qaeda having one! I mean, really who would benefit from Iran getting a bomb? I'm not sure even the Iranians (ultimately) would!
If only the dear leader
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For myself, I'm waiting until the Madhi returns. Here's my scenario:
The trumpets blare, the clouds of heaven part, the Madhi in all her beauty majestically sweeps down to Earth. The Righteous Islamics are in a deep funk since the Madhi was rumored to be male. She assures them in a thunderous voice that indeed She is the Madhi, throws a few lightning bolts for effect.
After a bit of meet and greet, She looks at her watch and declares that time is money and She's a bit busy this week. The Righteous Islamics ar
Good. (Score:3)
Good.
I left it to the excerice for the reader to decide what is good:
A. that at least some kind of war is being fought on Iran
B. that it's viruses instead of bombs that are being delivered to Iran
C. that Iran discovered the virus before it did damage
D. that Iran is fighting it's own propaganda war by these false claims
E. your own choice, explain below
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STARS on the scene (Score:2)
I, for one, am glad that STARS is already on the scene, protecting us from Wesker and Ahmadinejad's zombie outbreak.
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Doing this is bad idea. (Score:2)
I could imagine just now a lot of very nationalistic teenagers stuiding software technologies with fruction. To make any teenager into a hacker, you only need to put him a goal. A good goal create good hackers. Defending your country seems a rather awesome goal, so this will create better IT hackers in Iran. I don't know what is the short term goal, but the long term result will be making Iran much stronger in cyberwars thingies.
On the other hand, hackers are a double edge sword...
Same sh_t everywhere... (Score:2)
As Herman Goering said... "Naturally the common people don't want war... But after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine policy... All you have to do is to tell (the people that) they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country."
Why does that sound disturbingly familiar...?
Translation : Making Nuclear Weapons is hard. (Score:3)
As in, to keep from having to explain his holiness why they are having such a hard time with peaceful nuclear work it is useful to have a bogeyman. An Israeli / American bogeyman.
Figure if they run out of viruses then they can start on physical sabotage.
Beats the alternative (Score:1)
The Golden Rule.. (Score:2)
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Awww, that is just too bad. (Score:2)
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You seem to think that the government of Iran has a goal of helping the people living there. From what I understand the government of Iran is there to have power and to control a country. The fact that there are other people living in that space is relatively irrelevant.
This is the principal danger in an Iranian nuclear arsenal. MAD doesn't work when you don't take an interest in the civilian population. Clearly from the last round of elections there are a lot of people the Iranian leadership wishes woul
Yet again, Slashdot reveals itself (Score:1, Troll)
keep them coming (Score:1)
great work...keep the viruses coming. Let the whole world join together to overwhelm Iran with cyber attacks. If we can avoid a conventional war through this action...it's the only responsible thing to do.
. . . good thing? (Score:2)
As a civilian, standing in the line of fire, and considering it was Iranian hackers who supposedly pulled off the SSL cert hack last month, I'm not looking forward to the escalation of this little war.