.XXX Domain Registrations Begins 140
alphadogg writes "Registrar ICM Registry announced that the .XXX sponsored top-level domain for the adult entertainment industry is open for registration. The domain was approved by the board of the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) in June last year, and then finalized in March. The domain is made possible thanks to ICANN's rules for 'sponsored' TLDs, through which domains have been created by interest groups. Other examples include dot-coop, for cooperative organizations, and dot-museum."
I am all for it. (Score:2)
If we can get the Adult Industry to sell their .COMs and go to .XXX it would make an easier to manage Internet. Especially if you are searching for name of an old XWindows software you were looking for.
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If we can get the Adult Industry to sell their .COMs and go to .XXX it would make an easier to manage Internet. Especially if you are searching for name of an old XWindows software you were looking for.
I wouldn't count on it. The biggest issue being that people that run porn sites don't want to be able to be easily identified by firewalls and proxy servers.
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"Hello, lucrative business! Why don't you crawl back to the ghetto we've designated?"
Trust me. The legislation that forces this move is not far behind - it will be modelled on the existing "asset-seizure" policies used to enforce "intellectual property" on the net.
It will also be used just as rationally, wisely and well.
The porn-tax registrars will get a windfall, backed by arbitrary prosecution and enforcement actions, with a presumption of violation.
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Why would that kill your income ? If content is legitimately "unsafe", it should be tagged as such. Hell I think porn sites would voluntarily self-declare as unsafe, because then if someone goes through the extra 2 clicks to turn off the safe filter, it's a golden invitation to open the floodgates and show them adult content, which they've now officially indicated they want.
I think .xxx is a good idea. I even think it should have its own dedicated search engine, google.xxx! Seriously, if someone says th
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Yes, but all the big, legitimate publishers already voluntarily shoehorn themselves into the "unsafe" results by declaring an ICRA rating, and all sorts of other wizardry to make it crystal clear to visiting individuals and search crawlers that they are an adult site. The only organisations that would choose not to shift to .xxx based on your reasoning would be the ones that are already dodgy.
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I want to know when Google is going to implement "unsafe search" - filter out all the boring stuff for me.
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I question that. Reputable porn sites usually want to help with filtering. Why shove your content down someone's throat if they aren't receptive to it in the first place ? Throwing off random porn results while I'm doing a screencast in front of a client is NOT going to get that site a sale. On the other hand, if someone explicitly indicates that they want porn, I say open the floodgates!
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If you mean the ISP, then it is a legal matter.
If you mean me, on my corporate network, then I cordially invite that person to go fuck themselves all day long because I'll be all-too happy to recommend termination.
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Did I mention that he is a passionately religious, born again christian CEO.
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They've already decided to go fuck themselves. ;)
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There is a difference between "people who want to see it", and "people who are willing to PAY to see it".
I wonder if the various for-pay porn sites, are really finding huge revenue from people who are looking at porn when they "shouldnt", and are committing the additional stupidity of PAYING for this time of illicit viewing, rather than doing it at a safer time and location.
Are people REALLY THAT stupid? is a significant chunk of porn revenue really coming from people viewing porn at work against company po
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Why shove your content down someone's throat if they aren't receptive to it in the first place ?
They have an option: leave the website. It's quite simple, and it creates no hassle for people looking for the content.
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They have an option: leave the website.
After the images are displayed. You can't unring a bell. You can't unsee some of the things you find on some websites.
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That likely goes for any website in existence, not just "pornographic" websites. Anything can potentially offend anyone at any time (and, indeed, mere text can offend someone). I don't think things need to be automatically filtered (or something similar) because of that. I think those people should just get over it and move on.
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That likely goes for any website in existence, not just "pornographic" websites.
That's true. There are, however, few kinds of websites where simply displaying an image can be considered a crime under certain circumstances. Nazi paraphenalia images in Germany, I think, is one. Pornography to a minor is another.
Anything can potentially offend anyone at any time
Oh, forgive me. I didn't realize that displaying porn to a minor was just a case of offending the minor.
I don't think things need to be automatically filtered (or something similar) because of that.
I didn't imagine that you thought I was saying otherwise. I was responding to the "stuff down your throat, just leave the website" comment. It doesn't matter if you then leav
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There are, however, few kinds of websites where simply displaying an image can be considered a crime under certain circumstances.
I don't necessarily agree with those laws. Furthermore, I really don't think filtering the website and hiding it from view would do anything. If it is truly illegal, then perhaps shutting it down would be a better course of action. And if they isn't possible, then that is too bad for them.
I didn't realize that displaying porn to a minor was just a case of offending the minor.
Right. They might not even be offended by it. I don't really care if a minor views pornography.
For that reason, I think anything that can help those who want to filter such material is good. If a simple block on .xxx allows that, I'm all for it.
I think the .xxx TLD is a stupid idea, but as long as it is 100% optional, I'm not too opposed to it.
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I don't necessarily agree with those laws.
Irrelevant. What you agree or disagree with isn't how the local prosecutor will determine what to prosecute.
Furthermore, I really don't think filtering the website and hiding it from view would do anything.
Ummm, it would prevent such things from appearing without direct action to view them. You would not be fooled by a goat.se link in /., for example, if goat.se is filtered from your browser. Any web content from a .xxx domain would be essentially non-existant if a browser filters out .xxx requests.
If it is truly illegal, then perhaps shutting it down would be a better course of action.
Please confirm, you are suggesting shutting down websites based on the legality of minors viewing the c
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Irrelevant. What you agree or disagree with isn't how the local prosecutor will determine what to prosecute.
But I said nothing about that. The first post you replied to was just describing my viewpoint: if they don't like it, then they should leave, and then get over it.
Ummm, it would prevent such things from appearing without direct action to view them.
Please confirm, you are suggesting shutting down websites based on the legality of minors viewing the content?
No. I meant child pornography. I couldn't care less about the laws against minors viewing certain content (I don't think those should exist anyway, but that's not to say that I think banning the mere viewing of content should be illegal at all).
Do you also believe that liquor stores should be closed down because they might sell something to a minor?
Even if I did believe what you said above, this is a different matter. I could therefore believe that yo
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And they make up, what, 1 percent of porn sites?
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Actually, the biggest issue is why any of them would switch all their domains to a registrar that charges 6 times as much?
If you have a few hundred XdoesY or FooXXXparody.com addresses, that is a lot of money.
If they really wanted porn sites to switch, they should've made it cheaper than .coms
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My point is that the sites in .xxx will get indexed just like everything else. It will show up in search results just like everything else. Like another poster mentioned, .xxx would be targeted by users looking for whatever porn criteria they are trying to find. If you are concerned that .xxx doesn't show up when someone is using safe search, what do you think the intent of safe search is? Do you honestly think Google will avoid indexing the .xxx TLD and miss out on all of that ad revenue?
The primary plac
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Advertising dating sites isn't. And those guys pay big money for advertising.
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Obligatory "pics or it didn't happen".
But yes, the dating sites are usually populated by images of little known actresses pulled from porn sites and the like, claiming to be oh so interested in you but... hark! Thou dost not have a Gold Subscription in order to reply to the message! Oh, and Nigerians claiming to be hot women that would love to come to live with you but unfortunately they need $5000 to get through customs. Payable by Western Union plskthx.
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It sounds like a great idea at first, but think further. This is a perfect scheme for censorship. After all, who decides what is pornography?
That's it in a nutshell. The problem with the .xxx TLD has been explained so many times I'm not going to repeat it.
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Easy. We use "community standards". Since the internet is global, we find the most prudish, conservative community in the world and have them decide.
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Amish pr0n == ASCII art? (Score:2)
Of course, the whole
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The problem is people create a problem out of it.
To anyone actually peddling porn, .xxx should be a proud statement. "YES! We have porn here! Come and git it!"
I'm not saying it should be mandatory, but it's kind of like a red-light district. Self identification. That's a good thing. If that results in easy filtering, then so be it. I would much rather make it easy for my fellow sysadmin to block .xxx where it is clearly not appropriate, like office networks and kids' computers. Kids don't have credi
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Well, the problem is that it makes it way too easy to filter for porn sites. Any reputable porn site is voluntarily listed by web filtering software, using something like .XXX goes way beyond that and makes it really easy to figure out if somebody has been looking at porn. Just type .xxx into the awesome bar and you'd get a concise list very quickly. And even without doing so, it's obvious just by the TLD that it's a porn site.
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Which works well as long as you leave it on or don't accidentally forget to enable it. Ultimately, this isn't really an appropriate way of dealing with the perceived problem.
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or, get it and come. ;)
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It sounds like a great idea at first, but think further. This is a perfect scheme for censorship. After all, who decides what is pornography?
ummm, the guy who registers his site with a .xxx domain name?
The problem with the .xxx TLD has been explained so many times I'm not going to repeat it.
And I've found a solution to a famous mathematical problem, which the margins of this posting are too small to contain.
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The whole point of the .xxx TLD is that all porn sites will move to it under pressure of the law.
I've heard of no such law. Where is it written?
Now you're just being an ass.
No more so than people who say "we've already gone through the arguments" as if simply saying that was sufficient to prove their point.
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The whole point of the .xxx TLD is that all porn sites will move to it under pressure of the law.
"The law"? What law? What law that applies in every country in the world? That defines pornography in a way that everyone agrees? That outlaws anything someone thinks is porn from any other domain?
May work in North Korea. Rest of the world, not going to work.
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Nah, The adult sites will keep their .coms and get .xxx domains too. They may even change their "official" name to the .xxx domain, but still keep the .com. Best of both worlds. It will make them easier for people looking for a .xxx site to find, but still keep the advantages of a .com and avoid breaking bookmarks. It's not like it isn't trivial to have more one domain for a site.
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You aren't allowed to register a .xxx unless you're putting porn on it. You can, however, blacklist the name so it cannot be used. But you don't have to pay annually for it.
Basically, you're arguing that .xxx will be a giant desert with nothing in it but blacklisted trademarks.
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Why would any website go with .XXX over .COM?
Dot com is the gold standard for the Internet. Any porn website with a .xxx domain will be associated with spam and viruses just like all these other gimmicky TLDs
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Why should they give up .COM? They can just redirect the .COM to their .XXX domain, and no one would be the wiser.
Anyhow, the problem isn't the reputable sites - they want to only show to those interested and definitely don't want to show it to those who don't (the parents and their "think about the children"
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If we can get the Adult Industry to sell their .COMs
They won't.
From day 1, the .XXX domain was all about revenue generation for the registrars and domain name squatters.
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No it wasn't. I was there on day one. You weren't.
I created alt.sex way back, and that filtered the sex of regular usenet, so there's precedent for this.
It'll work. You can make noise about it in a few years if I'm wrong. And suck up accordingly if I'm not.
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If we can get the Adult Industry to sell their .COMs and go to .XXX it would make an easier to manage Internet. Especially if you are searching for name of an old XWindows software you were looking for.
Not just old software, I have this problem constantly:
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alt.binaries.nospam.anonymous-coward.nudes.flonk.flonk.flonk ?
.XXX Suggestions (Score:1)
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If Google started tracking my porn habits they'd opt out in a hurry.
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With a furry?
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http://www.youporn.com/recommended [youporn.com] ;)
we can re-"build" "him". we have the technology.
So, what are you going to do with (Score:2)
Slashdot.xxx?
Just a goatse link?
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Can't wait... (Score:1)
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dot museum? (Score:1)
when did these things go from simple 3 letter extensions to full words. and whats going to happen in the future? will we see
slashdot.newsiteoninternet.co.uk.com.html?
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The original TLDs were com, org, net, gov, edu, mil, and - wait for it - arpa.
So even in the beginning, not all TLDs were TLAs.
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Sure they were. Some were just members of the ETLA subset. :)
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Don't forget .NATO which was slipped in the root one day when a general called IANA ans asked for it. It was deprecated over the next decade and one day in 1996 or 7 Postel said "there's 7 tlds" "Uh, what about .NATO John? That's 8" (click click click") ok NOW there's 7 tlds, and he took it out of the root.
Things used to be a tad more loose than they are now. You don't want to know the story behind the Iraqi tld.
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And the interesting thing about .ARPA domains is they never expire.
If you own any IP addresses, you own a .ARPA domain.
The hot tip is to put your nameservers under .ARPA simpy delegate a subdomain to yourself. They work just
fine as A, MX or NS records.
The problem is no ICANN registrar I can find will accept a domain ending in .ARPA as a nameserver. This is a bug and
should be fixed. I've had no luck in 3 years getting this to happen. It would be nice if it did though.
(as for the subject I miss http://swiss. [swiss.frog.museum]
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Tender loving... Domain?
web host providers (Score:1)
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Hey, does anyone know how to burn an "image" to a CD?
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you'd better damn well be planning on posting porn suitable for .xxx on that personal web page or we'll mod you "offtopic"
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just so long as it's pornographic
dumb. (Score:1)
If you need to filter, .kids makes a lot more sense.
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There already is a .kids.us [cms.kids.us] sub-domain of the .US TLD. The managing company does content enforcement.
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The idea of a .kids domain is it would be "approved" for K-12 viewing.
Cue the lawsuits when some atheist or islamic organization is forced off the 'whitelist'.
Cue the lawsuits when some sex education organization is forced off the 'whitelist'.
Cue the lawsuits when some political campaign site is forced off the 'whitelist'.
The whole idea that there exists one single objectively true "categorization" is about as stupid as thinking there exists one single objectively true "religion". And similarly the world i
FredPhelps.XXX (Score:2)
I'm just sayin'.
Fred Phelps (Score:2)
Fred Phelps is in charge of the Westboro Baptist Church, a group of fundamentalists whose extreme anti-homosexuality makes them look rather ridiculous.
I think Enderandrew was referencing the supposed concept that homophobes are closet homosexuals themselves, and that it would thus be a gay pron site
What About the non Obvious cases? (Score:2)
What about all the adult, sexual oriented, material that might not be considered porn by most/some people? .xxx.
Sure there are tones of cut and dry cases, but there is also tons of erotic art, erotic literature, softcore, movies with a 18+ rating that some conservatives would call porn and they even would have a case for it, but that does not mean that it deserves to be forced into
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Outside of some vocal fringe groups I don't see any overarching push to label everything even mildly questionable as porn. By your rationale people would be clamoring to have much of the content of prime time television forced under an .xxx-like label.
I think it's rather obvious what would fall under the .xxx, whatever is currently considered xxx content; basically anything you might find perusing sites like Youporn. Everything else, novels, movies or whatever that wouldn't be considered hardcore porn would
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What about sites that contain content that is undeniable porn, but also pander in a equal amount of completely non adult content.
4chan for example has places for porn and places for stuff that is absolutely not porn.
A lot of Anime sites include content made for children alongside of the most degraded hentai.
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I, for one, will be expecting a new Pavlovian reflex. Every time a man's fingers hit the keys, '.xxx', he will experience a rapid erection. It can be called "The Pavlovian Bonereflex".
Viagra sales will go down, Microsoft will patent the dot-x-x-x keystroke, and Vin Diesel fans will act like nothing happened.
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AnonymousCoward.XXX ? Don't count on it. (Score:2)
These are the current requirements [icmregistry.com] for getting a working .xxx domain in either Sunrise or Landrush. (No mention of open registration once landrush is over, but the requirements will probably be the same.
Sponsored Community Validation Process:
1. Person/company submits an application for a name in Sunrise A or Landrush with their registrar of choice — they pay their registrar directly for that.
2. ICM sends the person/company an introduction email that includes
Obvious Problem (Score:2)
I'm going to Godwin this and say that moving to an xxx domain is the same as getting branded, numbered, or badged. It's fine in the beginning, but wait until someone doesn't want you around. Same reason people have a problem with gun registration. Actually, same reason people have a problem with giving away any personal information that may categorize them -- and ALL personal information does.
1) I am white, african-american, mexican, asian, etc
2) I am Catholic, Christian, Protestant, Muslim, Hindu, etc
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time to catch on sex.com (Score:2)
i just registered goatse.xxx and se.xxx
This TLD is Just a Shakedown (Score:3, Insightful)
The real reason for the .xxx TLD isn't to segregate porn sites. It's a money grab against other companies. .XXX to be sure that no one else registers their names.
Now Disney, McDonalds, Pepsi, and thousands of other companies have to register their domains with the
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The real reason for the .xxx TLD isn't to segregate porn sites. It's a money grab against other companies. .XXX to be sure that no one else registers their names.
Now Disney, McDonalds, Pepsi, and thousands of other companies have to register their domains with the
This isn't clear to me. If you're Pepsi, why not just wait for someone else to pay for pepsi.xxx and then sue them for cybersquatting and take it from them and get it for free?
Whom is the whois? (Score:2)
rosa:/home/joe>whois nethead.xxx
No whois server is known for this kind of object.
Superbowl.XXX (Score:2)
Ah, well, 1996 has come and gone.
Still, I might call it dot-thirty.
.XXX (Score:2)
Still, I might call it dot-thirty.
Others might call it thought-dirty.
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touche!
What about the Pirate industry? (Score:2)
Better TLD would be .CUM (Score:2)
I just hope now.... (Score:2)
I just hope now that all adult content websites, will move over to the .xxx names, and leave all the other .com for real word companies....although I do not think girlswithbigbooty.com will be anything else other then Kim Kardashian at the beach...
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TSAGROPER.XXX
Get it while it's hot!
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