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Video The Coda Electric Car at the Detroit International Auto Show (Video) 284

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Last week Timothy Lord looked at the Tesla Model S. He also took a quick look at the CODA electric car. Like Tesla, CODA is based in California. Like Tesla, CODA is building purely electric, "plug-in" cars. But unlike Tesla, CODA is making a bland but practical sedan that can go up to 150 miles on a charge and costs about $37,000. That's not exactly a Kia-competitive price, even though Tim says it looks kind of like a Kia. But it's 100% electric and costs less than a Tesla -- really, hardly more than a Nissan Leaf. And it has a fully-usable back seat and a decent-sized trunk. And unlike the Nissan Leaf, it's made right here in the good old USA.
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The Coda Electric Car at the Detroit International Auto Show (Video)

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  • by tgd ( 2822 ) on Monday January 23, 2012 @10:05AM (#38790805)

    Final assemby is in the USA. Most of the chassis is made in China, and the rest of the parts are sourced from various places around the world.

    Unlike, say, a Hyundai which is almost entirely made in the US.

  • NOT MADE IN THE USA (Score:5, Informative)

    by WindBourne ( 631190 ) on Monday January 23, 2012 @10:22AM (#38790965) Journal
    The car is made in China. All that CODA does is install a UQM motor (American made with Chinese parts), Chinese made electronics and a chinese made battery.
    This car is 99% Chinese.
  • by vlm ( 69642 ) on Monday January 23, 2012 @10:26AM (#38791031)

    The malls/some stores around here have special parking spots for hybrid/electric cars that are closer to the entrance than the handicapped spots in some cases. .... Driving an EV does not make you more worthy of a parking spot than anyone else.

    It does. You/everyone is paying a couple bucks per foot for that buried heavy gauge wire, so the closer the charger is to the entrance, the less you are paying the electrician, who is paid by the mall owner, who is paid by the shopkeeper, who is paid by ... you.

    So its in everyones financial best interests to have the charger as close to the building as possible. Even if you drive a gas guzzler.

    The only people who benefit by putting it further away are the copper wire manufacturers.

  • by slack_justyb ( 862874 ) on Monday January 23, 2012 @10:34AM (#38791111)
    Smyrna, TN [engadget.com]
    That's the town right next to where I live. They've had billboards up in the area talking about how the Leaf is coming to Smyrna and how awesome it's going to be to live in the same area as they are made in. However, as someone pointed out. Pretty much the only thing they will do there is put the pieces together. All the parts will be sourced from elsewhere.

    Total impact? Well they aren't opening a new wing (you can tell when they are doing that because Nissan Blvd and Enon Springs road becomes a nightmare with all the heavy construction. Traffic usually backs up onto US 41/70S (aka Murfreesboro Road). So no one new is getting hired at the plant. Instead I think they are phasing out some sort of truck they use to make. So no new construction, no new hire, pretty much the Nissan Leaf has brought zero new jobs... Oh I take that back! CSX hired sixty some odd workers for about nine months to expand the capacity of the rail yard at the Nissan plant.

    However, aside from the job issue. The local malls (Stones River, The Avenue, etc...) have added EV charge stations to welcome our new Leaf overlords. So I'm guessing that's good that we are suddenly going from zero EV charging stations to now twenty-six, three packs, and counting.

    However I will say that Nissan is doing something with their site in the back. You can see that they are leveling the ground from Florence Rd but there has yet to be any structures added. So more likely we'll be seeing little white canopies going up soon or we'll see the start of, hopefully, a new building.
  • by WindBourne ( 631190 ) on Monday January 23, 2012 @10:36AM (#38791143) Journal
    Not even close to being true. The average cost in America for electricity is around .11/kwh. The transmission costs, are rarely variable, but fixed. That way, it can be broken out. OTH, when the transmission costs are variable, they are rolled into the costs. And transmission costs are less than .02/kwh. In addition, a number of electric companies give price breaks for charging in the middle of the night.

    Even with that, .33 KWH is still less than $3/gal gas. And I doubt that we will see 3/gal gas.
  • by kenh ( 9056 ) on Monday January 23, 2012 @10:49AM (#38791319) Homepage Journal

    So its in everyones financial best interests to have the charger as close to the building as possible. Even if you drive a gas guzzler.

    No, it's in everyone's financial best interest for plug-in electric car owners to charge their car at home, and not soak the local shop owner for the electricity their cars consume.

    Here's an interesting article on the growing number of charging stations [wsj.com] from the WSJ last October:

    Charging equipment is popping up largely because of subsidies. As part of a $5 billion federal program to subsidize development of electric vehicles and battery technology, the U.S. Energy Department over the past two years provided about $130 million for two pilot projects that help pay for chargers at homes, offices and public locations.

    With less than 20,000 EVs on the road today, that works out to over $6,500 per EV, and since the subsidies only pay for a part of the expense, which can run $2,000 - 7,000 per charger, it's safe to say we have at least two chargers for every EV in the country.

  • by janimal ( 172428 ) on Monday January 23, 2012 @11:12AM (#38791583)

    Coal transport from mine to plant requires less carbon than oil from Saudi Arabia to the pump, plus refinement. Also, I'm not sure what the combustion energy effectiveness of a highly specialized generator turbines is, but I suspect it's a bit better than a pocket piston combustion engine that you'll find under your hood. Please consider city driving conditions for the combustion engine efficiency, because that's the niche for the new electric vehicles.

  • by WindBourne ( 631190 ) on Monday January 23, 2012 @11:31AM (#38791823) Journal
    Actually, few of Toyota or Honda are even close to 100% made here. That is why when Japan was hit by the tsunami, All Japanese plants outside of Japan came to a crawl. Probably the most American made is Tesla Model S. Other than the lithium and some of the electronics, allmost all of it is from America. And the Lithium is about to be from USA as well within 2 years.
  • by Doc Ruby ( 173196 ) on Monday January 23, 2012 @01:12PM (#38793305) Homepage Journal

    All a 240V plug is, is two 120V plugs that share a ground, on two separate circuits from the panel. Adapters that combine them at the outlets cost $50 each retail or less. An electrician will charge something like $100 to run a new pair of 120V circuits from your panel if necessary. At 6.6KW, 240V means 27.5A, so each 120V line needs only 30A. Which means the whole thing is exactly like installing an electric oven, which is a pretty common little project.

    Once there's more than one or two plugin cars in a parking lot the owners will install the 240V outlets. Because they'll attach a meter that charges more than they pay the grid. A grid that doesn't charge $0.33:KWh; the NYC Con Ed rate is highest in the country at $0.21:KWh. And that's if you don't have Time Of Use (TOU) rates, which charge under $0.15:KWh at night and through the Winter, which is when you'd charge your car at home.

    So in fact the economics of plugin cars makes a lot of sense. Which is why many thousands have already been sold. Of course as that number turns to millions the grid needs upgrades for the switch in power distribution from gas to electric, even though at greater efficiency (fewer source joules per mile travelled). But that problem isn't here yet, and the solutions are already in the works (including decentralized generation, like onsite where the charging happens).

    I don't know where you're getting your numbers from. Is there some oil corp chain email going around?

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