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Gimp 2.8 Finally Released 737

Posted by timothy
from the they-brought-out-the-gimp-again-and-again dept.
Cryophallion writes "After many years of development, GIMP 2.8 is finally released. Among its features: the oft-desired single-window mode, layer groups, and many other massive improvements, including some of the GIMP UI team's work. This might be the release that helps make The GIMP a much more user friendly experience for newcomers, and has features that are rivaling those of certain exceptionally expensive commercial programs. While the porting of GEGL is still ongoing (and recently reported to have made massive advances made), this is a major step forward for one of the premier open source projects." Here are the official release notes.
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Gimp 2.8 Finally Released

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  • by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 03, 2012 @09:19AM (#39877951)

    ...with an interface worse than Penn & Teller's driving game.

  • Maaaaaan... (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 03, 2012 @09:20AM (#39877959)

    The Gimp Users website is a design trainwreck.

  • The Name (Score:4, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 03, 2012 @09:20AM (#39877965)

    They really ought to consider re-naming it. Try installing it in - say - a junior high school some time. See how that goes over.

    • Re:The Name (Score:5, Funny)

      by Zontar The Mindless (9002) <plasticfish.info ... m minus language> on Thursday May 03, 2012 @09:26AM (#39878021)

      They really ought to consider re-naming it. Try installing it in - say - a junior high school some time. See how that goes over.

      They can name it "Love Child Of roman_mir And APK" for all I care. I'm just glad to see they grew a brain cell and adopted single-window mode. Y'know, for human users.

      • Re:The Name (Score:5, Funny)

        by schroedingers_hat (2449186) on Thursday May 03, 2012 @09:48AM (#39878283)
        The multi window paradigm is popular among all the major operating systems in use on Vloxtar, don't be so small minded.
      • Re:The Name (Score:5, Informative)

        by djlemma (1053860) on Thursday May 03, 2012 @09:56AM (#39878387)
        Did you ever use it in the pre-1.0 days, when there wasn't yet support for layers? You had to open each "layer" entity as a separate file in a separate window, and then it would let you combine/multiply/divide/etc between multiple files to come up with a composite. Now, THAT was a lot of windows to keep track of.
    • Re:The Name (Score:4, Insightful)

      by crazyjj (2598719) * on Thursday May 03, 2012 @09:31AM (#39878085)

      I actually used to teach a class where I wanted to use it. But the name stopped me. A real shame. Wish someone would fork it with a name that isn't so childish and offensive. They can improve it all they like, but no one is ever going to take it seriously with that name.

      • Re:The Name (Score:5, Informative)

        by Lord Lode (1290856) on Thursday May 03, 2012 @09:35AM (#39878119)

        Warning: non native English speaker here.

        I didn't know gimp was an offensive word. Do children recognize it as offensive? Is it because it sounds like "chimp"? Are monkeys offensive?

        • Re:The Name (Score:5, Informative)

          by Desler (1608317) on Thursday May 03, 2012 @09:38AM (#39878161)

          'Gimp' is a perjorative for disabled people.

        • Re:The Name (Score:5, Informative)

          by Atzanteol (99067) on Thursday May 03, 2012 @09:39AM (#39878169) Homepage

          It's an offensive slang term for handicapped people. And it speaks volumes about the marketing ability of geeks.

          • Re:The Name (Score:5, Insightful)

            by Dishevel (1105119) on Thursday May 03, 2012 @09:51AM (#39878321)

            GNU
            Image
            Manipulation
            Program

            It is only offensive to those who feel a deep seated need to be offended.
            Unfortunately there are a lot of people who just can not spend a whole day without being "Deeply Offended" by something.

            • Re:The Name (Score:5, Funny)

              by DrData99 (916924) on Thursday May 03, 2012 @09:57AM (#39878399)

              I tell people that it is a self referential acronym:
              GIMP
              Is
              Most of
              Photoshop

            • Re:The Name (Score:5, Insightful)

              by jockm (233372) on Thursday May 03, 2012 @10:03AM (#39878477) Homepage

              Considering your signature, I fear this is going to fall on deaf ears. You have a very high threshold for offense, and believe everyone should too. I suspect this because you are willing to equate a piece of computer hardware to criminal sodomy out in public, but please correct me if I am wrong.

              But here's the thing, if you are a disabled person then Gimp is just like "the N word", and insult hurled at you in anger and derision. It is also a word you reserve the right to yourself. You don't have to like it, you don't have to agree, but you do have to accept that, because that is the reality out in the world — at least with enough people to matter.

              And I can see why you think your explanation, giving the name in full, is cogent. But here's the thing: If the default were to say "The GNU Image Manipulation Program" and some people shortened it to "GIMP" then that would be one thing. Unfortunately that isn't the case. The devs of the program called it GIMP from the beginning, and took a very long time to accept that anyone could be offended by that. And now it is a line in the sand to them, one they will not cross.

              The name is a problem. It stops people using it, it stops schools teaching it, it hurts the app.

              • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

                by Dishevel (1105119)

                The name was not a problem.
                First came the name. Then came the problem.
                Also.
                The "N" word is fucking stupid. If someone is being offensive and says the word "Nigger" then they are an easy to spot dumb fuck.
                Blacks can use the word nigger all they want. I will be modded down because I have used the word twice.
                I did not use it offensively. The word itself is not offensive because blacks can say it all they want.
                That means that is is only offensive because I am not black.
                That is racism. That to me is offensive.
                I

                • Re:The Name (Score:5, Insightful)

                  by Kozz (7764) on Thursday May 03, 2012 @10:37AM (#39878983)

                  The name was not a problem.
                  First came the name. Then came the problem.
                  Also.
                  The "N" word is fucking stupid. If someone is being offensive and says the word "Nigger" then they are an easy to spot dumb fuck.
                  Blacks can use the word nigger all they want. I will be modded down because I have used the word twice.
                  I did not use it offensively. The word itself is not offensive because blacks can say it all they want.
                  That means that is is only offensive because I am not black.
                  That is racism. That to me is offensive.
                  I am not often offended, but people who corrupt language to change thinking are in my opinion evil and highly offensive.

                  A couple of points for you to consider...

                  • If you think that all Black Americans feel the same way about the word "nigger", you're sorely mistaken.
                  • The speaker doesn't get to decide whether his words are offensive. That's up to the listeners. If it's well known that a word is deemed by many to be offensive, the speaker ought to at least attempt to be respectful of that, even if he doesn't agree. To do otherwise seems anti-social, antagonistic, a jerk... pick one.
                  • Of all the things in this world worth of the word "evil", I'm pretty sure you're stretching the definition.

                  As for the naming of GIMP and whether it should be changed... would it be such a big deal? We've watched many projects go through forks and renames and changes of ownership. StarOffice, OpenOffice.org, LibreOffice. Phoenix, Firebird, Firefox. I think we'd get along just fine with a name change.

                  To be obstinate on this topic is short-sighted if we (as a community) would like to see this product succeed at an ever-growing rate. If the name is holding it back from adoption or acceptance to any measurable degree, isn't it a good thing to seek improved marketing?

                • by jockm (233372)

                  Let's take one last run at this: Do you believe context ever matters in language or word choice? Are there words you should not expose children to until a certain age? Is the way you talk to your lover in the bedroom the same as how you address your boss? If the CEO of where you worked disabled, would you call him a gimp to his face?

                  If you believe that language has context, or If the answer to any of those (or questions like them) above was "no", then why is it appropriate to name an image editing prog

            • Re:The Name (Score:4, Insightful)

              by Atzanteol (99067) on Thursday May 03, 2012 @10:05AM (#39878495) Homepage

              It's only offensive to people who are crippled, know somebody who is crippled, feel the need to not offend people who are crippled, or who work in a professional business and don't want to potentially offend customers/employees/etc. who may be crippled, etc.

              In other words, it speaks volumes about the marketing ability of geeks. Just as I said. If I created the worlds greatest network monitoring system and named it "Portable Enterprise Network Information System" it wouldn't matter. Nobody is going to install PENIS in a professional environment.

              GIMP is a stupid name. You may not care. I may not care. It's still a stupid name.

            • Re:The Name (Score:5, Insightful)

              by optimus2861 (760680) on Thursday May 03, 2012 @10:05AM (#39878499)

              As an engineer I have to fight the tendency to assign acronyms to things that don't need them, or even discard/alter acronyms that come out "wrong". GIMP does not get off the hook for having a silly name because it's an acronym. In fact the full name of the program looks like it was chosen to create the acronym - which is doubly silly.

              Bemoan it all you want, but GIMP is a stupid name and it ought to change if it wants to be taken seriously.

            • Gimp = Perjorative term for a disabled person.
              Gimp = Sex slave.

              You're deliberately missing the point. It's not about offending someone's sensibilities, it's about the bad connotations of the word. Would it hurt so much to rename it "GNU Licensed Image Development Environment" or similar? Then I might be able to convince the boss to actually consider it as an alternative to MSPaint.
              • by Lumpy (12016)

                If their logo was a ball gag, I think a Lot more people would use it.

                • Actually, one of the splash screens of the 2.7.x branch did actually put the GIMP mascot into a gimp suit.
                  Which bothers me, because they are aware of the connotations but still adhering to it like kids who think they are funny.

                • If their logo was a ball gag, I think a Lot more people would use it.

                  You're hanging out with the wrong crowd again...

              • Re:The Name (Score:5, Informative)

                by ifrag (984323) on Thursday May 03, 2012 @10:55AM (#39879215)

                boss to actually consider it as an alternative to MSPaint

                Of course after using GIMP for a minute, the (almost guaranteed) reaction is going to be "fuck this, MSPaint will do..."

                I've started recommending Paint.NET for people who need a minimal image editor.

            • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

              by TigerTime (626140)

              It doesn't matter if the acronym works. It's an offensive word. If CHINK, HONKEY, WETBACK, or NIGGER were legitimate acronyms would you say they're a good idea for an app's name?

            • by clickety6 (141178)

              GNU
              Image
              Manipulation
              Program

              It is only offensive to those who feel a deep seated need to be offended.

              Great, if no-one should be offended by an insulting acronym then there should be no objections if we replace it with the name " New Integrated GNU Graphics Editing Resource" for instance..

            • Re:The Name (Score:5, Funny)

              by chemicaldave (1776600) on Thursday May 03, 2012 @10:12AM (#39878617)
              It's still not marketable. There's a reason Amazon sells the Kindle and not The Amazon Reading Device.
            • Re:The Name (Score:5, Insightful)

              by kiwimate (458274) on Thursday May 03, 2012 @10:22AM (#39878741) Journal

              Your stubborn refusal to consider someone else's feelings, combined with your signature, makes me think you have a remarkable lack of sensitivity, empathy, and social awareness. As such, you may not get much out of this post.

              Sometimes one has to pick one's battles. You can choose to fight on the naming of a piece of software based on your assertion that it's only offensive to people who want to be offended. Alternatively, you can choose to accept that whether you agree with the sentiment or think it's foolish, nonetheless the term is offensive and/or silly and/or nebulous to potential users. The bigger issue could be that you want to spread the word about free and open source software and this is a great example of something that has come out of the community and matured, but which potentially is being held back by its name.

              I'm not a FOSS evangelist, but if I were I'd think it was a valid concern and wonder if I could give up the battle ("I wanna keep the name GIMP!") so that I have a better shot at winning the war. (And I really dislike using that terminology, by the way, because it should be about choice and giving people something that's better, not a fight against the enemy.)

              Look, it comes down to this. Like it or not, the name is a problem for more than a handful of people. Do you really want that to be the impediment that stops one of the best examples of free and open source software from being more widely adopted? Is it really that important to you? Where do your priorities lie?

              (And no-one is going to call it "GNU Image Manipulation Program". One syllable versus eleven. Easy choice.)

              • Re:The Name (Score:5, Funny)

                by Atzanteol (99067) on Thursday May 03, 2012 @10:35AM (#39878943) Homepage

                Your stubborn refusal to consider someone else's feelings, combined with your signature, makes me think you have a remarkable lack of sensitivity, empathy, and social awareness. As such, you may not get much out of this post.

                I think you pretty much nailed it right there. He's way too out of touch with society to notice or care. He may as well run for public office at this point.

              • Re:The Name (Score:5, Insightful)

                by actiondan (445169) on Thursday May 03, 2012 @11:33AM (#39879601)

                Quite right.

                Aside from any offensive connotations, which of these names clearly fails at being clear about what it does?

                Photoshop
                Paint
                GIMP

              • Re:The Name (Score:4, Insightful)

                by Hatta (162192) on Thursday May 03, 2012 @12:28PM (#39880057) Journal

                You can choose to fight on the naming of a piece of software based on your assertion that it's only offensive to people who want to be offended

                Offense is always a choice on the part of the offended. Maybe they should pick their battles.

                Do you really want that to be the impediment that stops one of the best examples of free and open source software from being more widely adopted? Is it really that important to you? Where do your priorities lie?

                As long as the software is good, it doesn't matter. Those who choose not to use it based on the name are missing out. The developers lose nothing if they don't use it.

                If it was really such a big deal, why hasn't GIMP forked yet? Just do with GIMP what Debian has done with Iceweasel and you're good to go. The fact that this hasn't happened yet indicates that people aren't really serious about their objection to the name.

            • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

              by Artifakt (700173)

              Count me as one of those who feels a "deep seated need to be offended". I have an autistic nephew who has been called a gimp by various ignorant fools in the past, and hell yes, I'm offended. You have offended me, by being a total jerk. You should be ashamed of yourself, but on slashdot, vile and abusive speech evidently gets you modded plus five.
              Silly me, I thought abusing people who cannot help their disability was the sign of a person with a crushing inferiority

              • Re:The Name (Score:4, Insightful)

                by Dishevel (1105119) on Thursday May 03, 2012 @11:19AM (#39879443)

                If someone is calling your nephew "gimp" then they are being offensive.
                If some hick walk up to a black man and says "outta my way nigger", then he is being offensive.
                GIMP as the name of a program that has nothing to do with disabilities is not offensive.
                Nigger when used by a black comedian is not offensive.

                Let me go slowly here.
                Words are not in and of themselves offensive. People can be. People who are being offensive use words.

                If I were to say that "Your nephew is a strange looking person with limited intelligence and no hope of being a full human being."
                That would be highly offensive and a horrible thing to say to someone.
                What word there is at fault? Which of those words are "offensive"?

                Words are not and never have been the problem. As long as we try to fix the words we will never fix the problem.

                Be offended all you want about words that in and of themselves are not offensive.

          • Also, ever since Pulp Fiction, the word "gimp" has had a pop-culture meaning of a male sex slave or sexual submissive. So... it's really not a word you want to toss around in a professional environement.

          • by mcgrew (92797) *

            it speaks volumes about the marketing ability of geeks.

            Not marketing ability, but the wish to market in the first place. GIMP isn't a commercial product, you know. Why does something that's non-commercial need marketing?

            It's the same thing with "Linux market share". Who cares? Why care, unless you're Mark Shuttleworth or somebody.

            Actually, that puzzles me with all marketing. McDonald's "Over ten bajillion sold"... why should I care how many other people are buying a damned hamburger? Why should I care how m

        • Re:The Name (Score:4, Insightful)

          by CanHasDIY (1672858) on Thursday May 03, 2012 @09:39AM (#39878173) Homepage Journal

          Warning: non native English speaker here.

          I didn't know gimp was an offensive word. Do children recognize it as offensive? Is it because it sounds like "chimp"? Are monkeys offensive?

          Children? Nah, the only reason they think the word might be offensive is because of the way idiotic, childish adults react to it.

          • The only "children" in this discussion are those who, rather than attempting to understand how others think, simply dismiss them as "childish." The rest of us understand that whining and crying and bitching and moaning about the fact that people don't like the name GIMP, and calling them names to boot......doesn't change the fact that they don't like it, and isn't going to make people want to use your product.

          • by eldorel (828471)

            the only reason they think the word might be offensive is because of the way idiotic, childish adults react to it.

            This may be true, but it can still cause issues for people.

            At a company I worked at the legal team vetoed using this software (despite all of the design team offering to use it to save the company money).

            Why did legal say no? The name could "be construed as a sign of a negative work environment for those who may be physically disable or handicapped".
            In plain english, the name could be used as lawsuit bait.

            So the gimp team can either change the name, or accept that the entire business world will

        • Gimp is an offensive term when used to refer to someone who is lame or handicapped. It may also evoke "the Gimp" from Pulp Fiction in some people's minds. However, it has other meanings [thefreedictionary.com], which are perfectly acceptable in polite conversation. Furthermore, it is a refreshingly straightforward, unforced, (indirectly) recursive acronym.

          Personally, I am fine with the name and I picture the cute little whatever-it-is logo when I hear it, if I picture anything at all.

      • If people fail to take seriously one a major expoent of free software solely because of an acronym that can be read as a socially stigmatized word, then I feel they don't deserve to use it in the first place. I mean, by all means, feel free to protect the children against the offensive power of the GIMP. But why stop there? Might as well censor biology classes, lest they find out about the existence of animals with names such as cock, ass, beaver, crab, peacock and sperm whale. (This was a joke, at first, b

  • by xxxJonBoyxxx (565205) on Thursday May 03, 2012 @09:22AM (#39877987)

    Looks like Windows installer isn't quite ready yet

    (Still on version 2.6.12, as per: http://gimp-win.sourceforge.net/stable.html [sourceforge.net])

    • by Paul Slocum (598127) on Thursday May 03, 2012 @11:24AM (#39879483) Homepage Journal
      Yes, so why is the news being posted now? It seems like terrible marketing to release the news on huge news sources when only about 2% of people are actually able to try the new version. The large majority of GIMP users are on WIndows. I think it's partly because gimpusers.com [gimpusers.com] posted the news when the saw the source on the FTP before GIMP actually announced the release.

      The GIMP developers' response was this:

      Not a release until we say so.
      Truly yours, GIMP developers

      P.S. And please don't make us think of evil things like banning your IP for FTP access. Spreading the news is great. Doing it before an official announcement is evil. It's our right to reserve a certain level of surprise. Have some respect.
  • Application Frame (Score:5, Interesting)

    by RandomUsername99 (574692) on Thursday May 03, 2012 @09:26AM (#39878025)

    It's kind of funny how, after all of this griping (from people like me) about lack of Photoshop like single-window mode in Gimp, Photoshop, at least for Mac, defaults to not having an "Application Frame"– which essentially means that it's not, by default, in single-window mode. It's easy enough to switch back, though.

  • by DeathToBill (601486) on Thursday May 03, 2012 @09:26AM (#39878033) Journal

    I've just discovered a new key! Called an exclamation mark! On my keyboard! How did I miss it all these years!?!

    The guy who wrote the new feature summary is just a bit too excitable for me to be comfortable with him at large in society.

  • 2.6 for Windows (Score:4, Insightful)

    by Jamu (852752) on Thursday May 03, 2012 @09:29AM (#39878061)
    It's still stuck on version 2.6.12 for Windows. It's a shame they don't support a (binary) Windows download.
    • Re:2.6 for Windows (Score:4, Informative)

      by wahaa (1329567) on Thursday May 03, 2012 @09:47AM (#39878275)
      There is a release candidate for 2.8 here (bottom of the page): http://gimp-win.sourceforge.net/stable.html [sourceforge.net]
      • Re:2.6 for Windows (Score:4, Informative)

        by JDG1980 (2438906) on Thursday May 03, 2012 @10:10AM (#39878585)
        I have tried that release candidate, and while it works (mostly), it has some serious problems:
        • It can't properly estimate the size of JPEG files before saving. Instead, it shows an absurd number (1.3 GB, I think) for any JPEG preview on save, no matter what the actual size is.
        • It doesn't save the dock positions in single window mode. for example, if I expand the right dock and contract the left dock, they return to their default sizes every time I close the program and open it again.
        • It won't remember it was in full-screen mode. It always opens in windowed mode, no matter what.
        • There is no option to close the left or right dock entirely in single-window mode. You can minimize it all the way by dragging to the edge, but that's not the same thing.
  • CMYK (Score:4, Interesting)

    by virgnarus (1949790) on Thursday May 03, 2012 @09:31AM (#39878079)

    True CMYK support yet? Nope. Looks like Photoshop is still the only option.

    • Re:CMYK (Score:4, Insightful)

      by Nadir (805) on Thursday May 03, 2012 @09:58AM (#39878407) Homepage
      Even if GIMP supported CMYK, you'd still complain about it not being useful for professional work for some other reason (e.g. font rendering). GIMP is quite good for screen graphics, and that's what most people do.
      • Re:CMYK (Score:4, Insightful)

        by virgnarus (1949790) on Thursday May 03, 2012 @10:16AM (#39878661)

        I don't understand. You imply that GIMP isn't sufficient for professional work for stuff like paper publications, yet you state that GIMP is good for screen graphics. This is despite the fact you mention one of the inadequacies with it which is font rendering, an issue that is very much existing with screen graphics no less than on paper. Am I reading your statement incorrectly?

  • by vladilinsky (1071536) on Thursday May 03, 2012 @09:31AM (#39878081)
    Every time there is anything posted about GIMP the entire comments consist of nothing but people complaining that it is not photoshop. What does it contribute to the discussion? We have all heard it before, many times. If you irrationally hate some piece of software, don't use it. If not enjoy the progression and the new features.

    I for one, am glad that GIMP exists and want to thank all the people involved for all their hard work. It is not perfect but gets better with every release. I happily use it for all my photo manipulation needs.
    • by slim (1652) <john@hart n u p.net> on Thursday May 03, 2012 @09:37AM (#39878137) Homepage

      I tried Photoshop, and I didn't like it because it wasn't the GIMP.

      I'm sure PS is fine, but once you've learned one UI it's difficult to adapt to a different one.

      • by NetDanzr (619387)
        Same here. I was never willing to spend the money for Photoshop, so I "grew up" with GIMP. And with Inkscape, instead of Illustrator. So when my company, where I designed the marketing materials as a side job, decided to "professionalize" and get me Photoshop and Illustrator (I believe versions C2), I struggled for a while with the UI and then decided to go back to my old software. I'm sure Adobe products are amazing - otherwise they wouldn't sell so well - but after all the time, it's difficult for me
    • by Desler (1608317)

      Well the summary is claiming it rivals Photoshop so it's only fair game to point out it's still missing features that Photoshop had in the early to mid 90s. Hell, even Paint.net has high-end features that The Gimp doesn't.

    • by Wattos (2268108) on Thursday May 03, 2012 @09:41AM (#39878193)

      Thank you for posting this.

      You get a feature rich, stable, complete application for absolutely free and you still complain about it not being something else. Gimp may have a very steap learning curve and may lack some features of photoshop but it is still a solid package and we should be absolutely greatful that there are people out there who dedicate their time to provide the package to us for free.

      I am absolutely sure that most people here, who complain about gimp not being photoshop, do not even have a valid license for photoshop. Additionally, if you think its so much worse, why dont you go ahead and try to make it better, its open source after all. But that would actually require you to do some work.

      I am happy that gimp 2.8 finally got released. I continue to use and support it :)

    • by Frosty Piss (770223) * on Thursday May 03, 2012 @10:08AM (#39878553)

      Every time there is anything posted about GIMP the entire comments consist of nothing but people complaining that it is not photoshop. What does it contribute to the discussion?

      The reason people complain is that they really *WANT* to get away from Photoshop and its 600$+ price tag (no everyone can get away with using a pirated copy), but the Gimp Team will not prioritize features that *professional* users want.

      Are they features that *everyone* (or even most) users want? Maybe not, but before Gimp can gain widespread acceptance among the various *professional* users, the Gimp team needs to set a high priority on addressing their needs.

      And this would be a good thing, many of those people whining about Gimp desperately want to dump Photoshop - It just isn't possible with Gimp in its current state.

      And, they lame-assed come-back "It's Open Source, why don't YOU write some code" is, well, lame and doesn't really need addressing.

    • by jockm (233372) on Thursday May 03, 2012 @10:19AM (#39878703) Homepage

      I don't care that it isn't photoshop. I do, however, care that when it comes to features GIMP 2.8 still compares badly to Photoshop 7. No non destructive editing, no CYMK, I don't see anything in the announcement about high color depths, etc.

      I don't need GIMP to be a clone of photoshop. I don't need the keystrokes, the icons, even the core philosophy to be the same. But I do need it to compare well against the feature set of PS7, which came out a decade ago.

      We know that small teams can produce apps that are comparable to PS7, in much less time than the 16 years it took us to get to GIMP 2.8 — Paint.NET, Acorn, Pixelmator, etc.

      It is more than time to stop giving the GIMP team a pass, and start holding them to a higher standard.

    • by westlake (615356)

      Every time there is anything posted about GIMP the entire comments consist of nothing but people complaining that it is not photoshop. What does it contribute to the discussion? We have all heard it before, many times. If you irrationally hate some piece of software, don't use it.

      It is not unreasonable remind the geek that other users do not value a FOSS app for its ideological purity or political correctness. It has to deliver the goods.

  • by larry bagina (561269) on Thursday May 03, 2012 @09:33AM (#39878103) Journal
    I want to use GIMP at work, but I need to get permission from my boss first. He's a into the leather scene so I'm afraid he'll get the wrong impression.
  • by mapuche (41699) on Thursday May 03, 2012 @09:35AM (#39878125) Homepage

    The first unnatractive GIMP feature is its name. Please change it to something more appealing while describes what it does. Photoshop, Paintshop, Illustrator,Inkscape, Pencil, etc. are good names for similar programs, please find a more clever name.

  • GPL v3??? (Score:3, Funny)

    by mark-t (151149) <markt@lynx. b c .ca> on Thursday May 03, 2012 @11:28AM (#39879527) Journal
    Would that not mean, for instance, if I run a commercial shop that does photo restoration and touchups, and I use a in-house customized version of GIMP to produce a result for a customer, that I must also make the source that I customized available to that customer?

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