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Windows 8 Release Date: October 26th 172

Posted by Soulskill
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Several readers sent word that Microsoft has selected a release date for Windows 8: October 26th. Steven Sinofsky made the announcement today at the company's annual sales meeting. The new version of the operating system will be sent to manufacturers next month, giving them plenty of time to prepare for general availability.
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Windows 8 Release Date: October 26th

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  • Work for an OEM call center, check.

    I have a feeling October 27th, the switch will be melting from frustrated users foaming at the mouth with WTF did you do to my computer! Or what I thought this was a laptop not a tablet?

    If you can take the abuse I imagine the support centers will be hiring left and right to keep up with demand.

  • Years after the release of the product. Mostly around service pack 2 or 3 time frame.
  • Will they be clearanced on October 26? Or should I grab one earlier. (When do the computer makers phase-out old models and bring-in new ones? August?)

    • Will they be clearanced on October 26? Or should I grab one earlier. (When do the computer makers phase-out old models and bring-in new ones? August?)

      If I were an OEM maker I would have 2 versions of laptops and desktops. Ones with Windows 8 and the other imaged with Windows 7. Dell did this after 6 months when it lost sales due to Vista and offered an XP 64 bit line for home users.

      With support calls through the roof and customers freaking out I bet you could make a killing if you offered the Windows 7 at retail as well.

      • by Grishnakh (216268)

        Better yet, offer the Win8 models at an inflated price so that the regular-price Win7 models look like a bargain. The inflated price will offset your support costs for the few morons who do buy Win8 and then call to complain.

    • I worked at CompUSA back when Vista launched (believe it was a January because I remember we had a massive blizzard and the midnight launch was a dismal failure) and in the month or so prior we started rolling out the hardware with it pre-installed so that by launch night we only had a couple models that were still running XP, and they didn't last long as word got around how much Vista sucked. By the time the store had failed and was being liquidated, we had one model that was still running XP.

      Of course, d

  • by dstyle5 (702493) on Wednesday July 18, 2012 @04:20PM (#40690663)
    The lines would be huge!!!! Everyone I know who has tried 8, including myself, can't get enough of Metro and those amazing apps! I'm sure in the release version the apps won't blow, right?
    • by Rhacman (1528815) on Wednesday July 18, 2012 @04:49PM (#40691067)
      I know right?!?! I feel so much more productive using applications that are full-screen only and use highly visible 48 point fonts! Plus, the extra large tile interface allows me to select which program I want to run by slamming my forehead into my touchscreen!
      • Nope. There's an actual Jedi technique involved in using Windows 8. I haven't quite figured it out though. I'm thinking of joining the Dark Side (Apple) instead.

      • by Rinikusu (28164)

        You know.. I'm going to put Win8 on my aging Fujitsu Lifebook P1620 since I primarily want to use it in "tablet" mode. It looks pretty much perfect, and the metro version of OneNote is supposedly pretty amazing.

        But, Win7 will be the OS of choice on my actual desktops.

        So, maybe I'll be the only guy that likes it... :)

        • by donaldm (919619)

          You know.. I'm going to put Win8 on my aging Fujitsu Lifebook P1620 since I primarily want to use it in "tablet" mode. It looks pretty much perfect, and the metro version of OneNote is supposedly pretty amazing.

          Why pay for Win 8 when I assume you have Win 7 on your P1620 unless you are one of those in the "Green parrot on shoulder brigade" :)

          My son's 4 year old HP touch screen laptop which originally ran MS Vista works perfectly under Fedora 17 so why would you want to pay for Windows 8 unless you are going to buy a new PC which in the majority of cases will have Windows 8 by default?

          But, Win7 will be the OS of choice on my actual desktops.

          So, maybe I'll be the only guy that likes it... :)

          It's not mine but then again I have been using Fedora on my laptops (no dual booting) for over four years now and in a professiona

      • by bryan1945 (301828)

        You, sir, win comment of the day! I cannot wait to try out your head slamming technique for myself.

  • Ubuntu 12.10 (Score:5, Interesting)

    by pak9rabid (1011935) on Wednesday July 18, 2012 @04:20PM (#40690671)
    Just in time for Ubuntu 12.10, eh?
    • by Kjella (173770) on Wednesday July 18, 2012 @04:34PM (#40690875) Homepage

      Just in time for Ubuntu 12.10, eh?

      Yeah... Metro vs Unity, fight! And Apple is on their way to iOS X as well. I'll go get the popcorn while I watch from by traditional desktop.

      • by tlhIngan (30335)

        Yeah... Metro vs Unity, fight! And Apple is on their way to iOS X as well. I'll go get the popcorn while I watch from by traditional desktop.

        Funny, Mountain Lion's UI changes a tiny bit, but not much, while Windows and Linux/Ubuntu decide they need a revamp. Though iOS 6 is supposed to be coming out that month as well... Mountain Lion... this month or next.

        • by cpu6502 (1960974)

          Since OS X is open-source, has anyone attempted to recompile 10.6 or 10.7 to run on PowerPC?

          • By now, you might have an easier time replacing the kernel with Darwin.

            Then again, probably not. [google.com]

            As a guy who still has a fully functioning dual G5, I'm thinking I'll either run Linux on it, or I'm gonna have a nice little case mod coming up to house my next motherboard...

          • by Anonymous Coward

            Yes and no. You can still compile Darwin from source and I assume it's in a similar state to what's used in the latest OS X, however the WM, all the apps and pretty much everything that makes OS X isn't OSS.

            Be ye trollin'?

          • by donaldm (919619)

            Since OS X is open-source, has anyone attempted to recompile 10.6 or 10.7 to run on PowerPC?

            Since when has any Apple OS been Open Source?

      • Re:Ubuntu 12.10 (Score:4, Insightful)

        by Grishnakh (216268) on Wednesday July 18, 2012 @05:11PM (#40691343)

        I hate to say it, but I think this is going to be a very profitable and successful time for Apple. People are going to look at Metro and barf, and start looking for alternatives. Then they'll think, "maybe I'll try out that Linux thing everyone's been talking about", and of course look for the most popular distro which is, of course, Ubuntu. They'll go to the trouble of trying that out somehow, see how awful Unity is, and realize that it's no great alternative to Metro. Then they'll say "screw it, I'll just buy a Mac" and go to the local Apple store and buy an overpriced computer there.

        They might also try out Fedora with Gnome3 instead, but the result will be exactly the same.

        This could have been a great opportunity for Linux on the desktop, but between Mark Shuttleworth and the Gnome devs, the cause for Linux on the desktop is pretty much lost.

      • by exomondo (1725132)
        At least LaunchPad is a separate application, you don't have to use it (personally i find it pointless) and that's what the Metro start screen should have been on x86 PCs, an optional thing!
      • by tepples (727027)

        Yeah... Metro vs Unity, fight!

        Just in time for Xubuntu 12.10, eh? That's what I run on my clean PC.

    • by cpu6502 (1960974)

      How come when I tried to install Ubuntu 12 on my laptop, it went khaka? I know my laptop only has 384 megabytes, but ubuntu.com says I only need 256. Maybe the CPU is too slow (P3 at ~700 MHz).

      It ran better than Vista but not by much. It also failed to let me install Flash Player or Google Chome. Kept saying something about "missing installation file".

      • by donaldm (919619)

        How come when I tried to install Ubuntu 12 on my laptop, it went khaka? I know my laptop only has 384 megabytes, but ubuntu.com says I only need 256. Maybe the CPU is too slow (P3 at ~700 MHz).

        It ran better than Vista but not by much. It also failed to let me install Flash Player or Google Chome. Kept saying something about "missing installation file".

        Amazing a laptop with 384 MB of RAM and what is even more amazing is you could run Vista on it :)

        One of my laptops (dual core, 2GB memory and originally had MS Vista) is over four years old and it runs Fedora 17 with KDE as my display manager and I didn't have any issue installing Flash player, Google Chrome and even VLC 2 which plays 10bit codecs. Ok it does run a bit slow if I try to do video editing/translation.

    • Just in time for Ubuntu 12.10, eh?

      No, I think Redmond timed it for Halloween. It won't be the first time they'd be releasing something close to that day [wikipedia.org].

  • and i can get me a free copy of Windows 8 that i can turn around and sell on craigslist, like I did for Windows 7 release.

  • ...consisting of people who still want to grab a copy of Windows 7 before it's too late.

    If rumors are an indication, the last Windows 7 license will be sold on December 21, 2012.
    • by Githaron (2462596)
      I actually have thought about buying a few copies before they become hard to find.
    • by dkleinsc (563838) on Wednesday July 18, 2012 @05:13PM (#40691363) Homepage

      You're forgetting one important fact though: OCT 26 = DEC 22

    • ...consisting of people who still want to grab a copy of Windows 7 before it's too late.

      If rumors are an indication, the last Windows 7 license will be sold on December 21, 2012.

      No way in hell!

      Corporations are still mostly on XP and just starting to switch to Windows 7 now. Many other users will freak out and go to small shops to get Windows 7 installed like they did with XP. MS can't cut it off and I bet OEMs if they are smart will have Windows 7 models at retail as well. MS may want to have people shut up and not repeat the situation with XP of last decade but there is a genuine demand for obsolete software now. It works, its well tested, its stable, it doesn't play games of the

  • by Anonymous Coward

    Is there anyone out there who still cares what MS releases next?
    I have not seen anyone using windows for years now.

    • Re: (Score:1, Informative)

      by aahpandasrun (948239)
      You're a minority. Like it or not, Windows has 84.41% operating system marketshare. (http://www.netmarketshare.com/os-market-share.aspx?qprid=9). It's by far the most prevalent OS.
      • Re:Yawn (Score:4, Insightful)

        by SplashMyBandit (1543257) on Wednesday July 18, 2012 @05:48PM (#40691701)
        Windows has an 84% *desktop* marketshare. Meanwhile servers, tablets, phones and embedded devices of all kinds run all sorts of operating systems (if they have one), that are mostly not Windows. It turns out that most of computing is actually not on the desktop (eg. servers running the Internet, telephony and corporate environments like banks etc). Of course, because it is invisible and mostly *just works*(TM) people don't know about it - they only know about Windows on their lil' desktop and how it is in their consciousness a lot since it requires so much effort to keep working properly.
        • by gweihir (88907)

          And the numbers are unfair. I use Windows for gaming and the occasional Word document. But even at work, I mostly use Linux (Debian). I am sure this is counted as Windows only.

        • by thegarbz (1787294)

          That depends on how you define "computing".

          If by computing you mean "to determine by calculation" then you're most certainly right.
          If you follow the more common meaning of "to use or operate a computer" then you couldn't be more wrong.

          Gotta love that English.

    • by lilfields (961485)
      I guess you don't have a job then.
  • Windows 8 is not Vista and is not Windows ME. By all accounts so far, performance is the same or better than Windows 7. The problems are with the lack of a start menu, Metro, and the odd windows 3.1-esque flat UI.
    • Re:8 is not vista (Score:4, Insightful)

      by ericloewe (2129490) on Wednesday July 18, 2012 @04:56PM (#40691151)

      True enough, but it doesn't matter if the computer is stable and functioning within normal parameters if you can't actually do anything useful. Of course, it's not *that* bad, but forcing metro on desktops and laptops is absurd.

    • by Mashiki (184564)

      The performance is better. But it *is* another vista or ME, you can say anything else you want, but when it takes more time to do simple tasks, that you can already complete using the start menu, then you've screwed up your UI design. That's exactly what's happened with the metro UI. I've noticed a very large push recently to try to dissuade this tech blogs, smells like paid astroturfing though.

      So really if you're going to use this on a PC, like I'm going to end up having to. Either get used to keyboard

    • by Anonymous Coward

      Windows 8 is not Vista and is not Windows ME. By all accounts so far, performance is the same or better than Windows 7. The problems are with the lack of a start menu, Metro, and the odd windows 3.1-esque flat UI.

      Windows 3.11 was a better UI than that Metro garbage.

  • by lilfields (961485) on Wednesday July 18, 2012 @04:56PM (#40691155) Homepage
    I have no intention of upgrading my desktops to Windows 8. From everything I've used and read on and about Windows 8, the start menu is a desktop PC disaster...but for touch, holy cow is it beautiful. I will keep my desktops/laptop running Windows 7 and grab a Windows 8 RT Surface. I think Microsoft wants this to be the reaction of most users. The start menu is just to grab developers attention of "hey this is going to be on every PC shipped out until Windows 9 hits, you have huge app exposure now." Those apps run on Windows Phone & Windows RT and the New Xbox...Microsoft then almost overnight has a platform that will be expansive and cross platform putting a fight up against Apple's appstore. Then in Windows 9 they can dial back the Metro start menu, make it more intuitive for the desktop and they suffer no loss. They might even GAIN share thanks to the tablet market. Windows 8 sells as bad as Vista did, big deal, Vista sold millions upon millions of licenses & the PC market is flat...and Windows 7 is the best desktop environment (in my opinion.) This is all about Microsoft flanking Apple in the tablet & phone markets. Nothing more, nothing less. I'll buy a Windows Phone 8, a Surface RT, and keep my desktops on 7. Yet Microsoft still wins.
    • by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 18, 2012 @05:58PM (#40691823)

      Yeah, I'm going to spend 500 dollars for a gimp Windows RT job when I can spend the same amount and get a retina display iPad with hundreds of thousands of touch optimized apps and games and peripherals coming out the wazoo or save half the money and get a Nexus 7 which is actual portable like a tablet should be and still has a massive touch native ecosystem. Yeah, no. Windows RT is the stupidest shit I have ever seen in my entire life. You get a tablet with no apps that is called Windows but can't run all my old Windows apps. I MIGHT AS WELL GET THE IPAD.

    • by antdude (79039)

      Why did MS have to make Metro for the desktops that don't have touch screens? Ugh.

  • Why not wait until December 21, 2012?

    It's a much more fitting date.
  • I guess I'll never find out.

  • I won't be buying... (Score:3, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 18, 2012 @05:12PM (#40691355)

    I've been running the Windows 8 Release Preview since it was available. I'm not that impressed. I've been in IT for almost 15 years and have tried and used every OS out there. This one feels like a letdown. As savvy as I am with tech, perhaps I'm jaded now that I've "seen it all". The last time I experienced a "wow factor" with an OS was back in 2000 with BeOS. Since then, only BSD and Linux have kept me somewhat excited about tech.

    The notion that everyone is enamored or wants an interface resembling a tablet/phone device is nonsense, despite recent successes with the iPad and Android devices. I have always preferred a smallish laptop to anything else and likely always will if they keep the form factor.

    Getting back on track... the Metro interface is... awkward. It feels like a suit that doesn't quite fit right no matter how good it looks.

    I'm waiting for another BeOS myself. The current paradigm in all it's flavors is boring and leaves little to the imagination. BeOS didn't get any traction because it was ahead of its time. Written from scratch. Beautiful, but alas no "supply train" behind it and no one willing to un-entrench themselselves from the Wintel/Mac world. I can only hope...

    • by gweihir (88907)

      I use Linux as primary desktop and Win7 were I cannot avoid it (gaming, the occasional word document). While I consider Linux reasonable (not "good", just adequate for the job, it has its flaws), I am constantly amazed by the level of pain and stupidity that Windows and Office users are willing to endure. Example: The only good way I found to make a Windows backup was with Linux ntfsclone and dd for the boot area. Or the fact that Word and Power-point get more and more dysfunctional from release to release.

    • by armanox (826486)

      Have you tried HaikuOS [haiku-os.org] by any chance? BeOS reborn.

    • One killer feature I miss from BeOS is the fact that the window title bar didn't take up the whole honkin window width. It actually looked like a tab. One that was able to slide across the "top" of the window. Proper tabbed windows may have killed the sliding aspect, but damit, I want my screen real estate back !!!

      i.e. See how "Home" takes up the minimal amount of space ?
      http://betips.net/wp-content/uploads/images/239.window.decor.jpg [betips.net]

  • by xs650 (741277) on Wednesday July 18, 2012 @06:26PM (#40692045)
    If ever there was an opportunity for next year to be the year of the Linux desktop, this is it. Too bad it won't happen.
  • While we're on the subject of Windows 8, would someone please explain the Metro interface to me, and the lack of a Start menu?

    I'm serious. I tried the W8 public beta, and it felt like I had one hand tied behind my back. I don't understand why the Metro tiles are different sizes, or how to resize them. I don't understand why dragging the interface left/right doesn't 'snap' to the next page like an iPad, but instead lets me see the right half of one page and the left half of another. I don't understand why so

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