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Samsung Unveils Windows Phone 8 Device and Android-Based Camera 179 179

Posted by Soulskill
from the still-waiting-on-that-android-based-toaster dept.
MrSeb writes "Today Samsung joined Nikon in announcing an Android-powered camera. The Samsung Galaxy Camera weighs 305g, features a 16-megapixel CMOS sensor, 21x super zoom lens, a quad-core 1.4GHz SoC (probably Exynos 4), 8GB of internal storage, and runs Android 4.1 Jelly Bean. This compares with the Nikon S800c which also has a 16MP CMOS sensor, along with a 7x zoom f/2 lens and runs Android 2.3 Gingerbread. Since neither unit has shipped, we don't know anything yet about how good they are as cameras, but we do know that the companies are trying to regain some of the ground they've lost to smartphones by integrating sharing right into their cameras. For photographers, there are a couple of critical questions about these new models: First is whether these cameras will have enough additional functionality to justify the added cost and weight when most people already have a serviceable camera in their phone. Second, and more importantly, there is still a big question mark hanging over Nikon and Samsung's long-term intentions for Android. If Android cameras are just standard point-and-shoots with a smartphone OS bolted on for sharing, that'll be a wasted opportunity. It would have been easier to create a camera that instantly tethered to a smartphone instead, and let the phone do all the work. There is an exciting possibility, if Nikon and Samsung do this correctly and allow low-level access to the camera functions via Android, to really unleash the power of Android to enable new photographic solutions." Samsung has also taken the wraps off the ATIV S, the first smartphone running Windows Phone 8. It has a 4.8" screen, NFC support, and a microSD card slot. Samsung plans to start shipping them in Q4.
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Samsung Unveils Windows Phone 8 Device and Android-Based Camera

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  • Re:DSLR (Score:5, Interesting)

    by RazzleFrog (537054) on Wednesday August 29, 2012 @05:54PM (#41172545)

    It's not about general purpose computer but I can think of a few advantages:

    - Touch screen vs ridiculous amounts of buttons.
    - Easier ways to change settings that aren't changed frequently but are now buried in crazy hierarchical menus.
    - Time lapse photography (most DSLRs require an Intervalometer)
    - More complex control over slave flashes

    A lot of photographers shoot tethered to a laptop as it is. This would hopefully eliminate that, too.

    I am sure other serious photographers can think of dozens of other reasons. It's not that I want to browse the web on my camera.

  • by jphamlore (1996436) <jphamlore@yahoo.com> on Wednesday August 29, 2012 @05:58PM (#41172609)

    I can't believe how terrible the mainstream coverage is of the current smartphone news. Why is no one analyzing the real technological battle being waged and the apparent winner, Qualcomm.

    Half of the summaries of the announcement simply say that the Ativ S is "dual core," as opposed to I suppose "quad core." What does that mean? I instantly thought, are they using the Qualcomm processor, perhaps even the Qualcomm Snapdragon S4? But then I also knew that since it was a Windows Phone, there is quite the chance it has to be Qualcomm, the one maker Microsoft currently supports.

    For this generation of phones, not only is Qualcomm making many of the baseband chips, certainly those for LTE multimode, but they're also successfully selling the entire SoC even in European markets? For Android, Samsung has already had to produce different phones same model Galaxy SIII, one for the US with Qualcomm processors, one elsewhere with its presumably preferred own ARM processor.

    Articles such as http://www.visionmobile.com/blog/2009/02/nokia-st-ericsson-qualcomm-broadcombye-bye-texas-instrument-and-hello-to-the-new-nokia/ [visionmobile.com] claim that in the previous generation "Nokia was designing the core chipset and letting Texas Instruments finish the integration and physically produce the chips: Nokia has been mastering the whole hardware IP of its phones, and has not been relying on generic chipsets for the vast majority of its production, with all the margins this implies ..." Qualcomm and Nokia settled their lawsuit in July 2008, but look what has happened since then. Now it is Nokia that for the Lumias and presumably for their next generation Windows Phones are having to rely on Qualcomm processors and chipsets.

    The mainstream press for some reason has missed the single biggest IP story the past decade, one that has destroyed at least one major company Nokia and has established another Qualcomm as a re-emerging hegemon on a world-wide scale. It should be obvious that if one tries to predict the future, the Chinese at least are not likely to meekly accept a Qualcomm monopoly without somehow getting their own capacity to export similar technology, which then leads one to read about China's TD-LTE ongoing effort, and other companies trying to partner with the Chinese in one last stand against Qualcomm.

    There's a lot more going on in mobile IP struggles than what is happening with a certain company with a fruit in its name.

  • by rastoboy29 (807168) on Wednesday August 29, 2012 @06:07PM (#41172721) Homepage
    I really expect some kind of Android derivative desktop OS to be popular by 2020.

    btw am I the only one who would like to see OSS repos become common on Android?  Play store is all fine and good, but I prefer to run software where I can see the source.
  • by yuriyg (926419) on Wednesday August 29, 2012 @07:20PM (#41173423)
    It looks like it's a proper camera, with proper optics:

    features a 16-megapixel CMOS sensor, 21x super zoom lens

    I, for one, welcome our social cloud overlords, and look forward to sharing my pictures to [G+ | Facebook | Twitter | Picasa] directly from the camera.

  • by fearofcarpet (654438) on Thursday August 30, 2012 @03:36AM (#41175973)

    Just last night I was stuck between taking a picture on my DSLR--archival quality, creamy bokeh, tack-sharp foreground, superb color saturation etc.--and having to walk up stairs, plug it into my computer, process the RAW file, and upload it versus snapping picture on my Android phone--blurry, washed out colors, throwaway quality, near-infinite depth of field, etc.--and having it pop up on the Internet almost instantly. So Nikon and Samsung are definitely on to something here, except that there is no way I would consider buying a PAS camera with Android built in because it is the worst of both worlds. Sure, you get more megapixels, but the effective f-stop is still f/55, the colors are less washed out, but still nowhere near a decent DSLR, you can't use a bounce flash, and you still have to drag around another brick in addition to your phone (assuming you use your phone to make phone calls). Plus you still need WiFi to upload the pictures. I think this Android/camera is a nice upgrade path for people who use PAS cameras because it eliminates the PC from the equation, but it is certainly no more interesting to actual photographers than any other PAS on the market. Modern (Nikon) DSLRs can be controlled from a PC via a USB tether. Just let me tether my DSLR to my Android phone. I can shoot RAW+JPEG, use the (fantastic) post-processing in the camera, upload the JPEG for instant-gratification and keep the RAW for later; problem solved.

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