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Woz Applying For Australian Citizenship Because of the NBN 385

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An anonymous reader writes "It's a well known fact that Apple co-founder Steve Wozniak is a fan of Australia and now we know why. He supports a national broadband network — a scheme being rolled out by the Australian government to provide fibre 'for everyone' — so much he's applying for citizenship, the Australian Financial Review reports. You can be assured that he's not giving up his American citizenship though, he told Brisbane radio." And for U.S. citizens: "Despite his status as a technology icon, Mr Wozniak said he was not connected to a broadband service in his home in California, classing the options available to him as a 'monopoly.' 'There’s only one set of wires to be on and I’m not going to pull strings to get them to do something special for me,' he said .... 'I've sat with our FCC commissioner and told him that story in his office, but it’s not going to happen. We just don’t have the political idea to bring broadband to all the people who are 1 kilometer too far away.'"
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Woz Applying For Australian Citizenship Because of the NBN

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  • by Kenja (541830) on Tuesday September 25, 2012 @12:16AM (#41446177)
    just cause you dont think health care should be a for profit industry... hum... never mind, perhaps Woz is on to something.
    • by crafty.munchkin (1220528) on Tuesday September 25, 2012 @12:35AM (#41446315)
      One would hope he's moving here for the beaches and beer as well as the healthcare and NBN!
      • Also, in case he does actually read articles about himself - I also hope he's checked out where it's been rolled out to already and where it is scheduled to be rolled out to [nbnco.com.au] before purchasing/renting a house... because otherwise he will have to deal with Telstra instead.
        • Or iiNet/Internode, who have actively worked to thwart bad internet regulations on behalf of their customers.

        • by BrokenHalo (565198) on Tuesday September 25, 2012 @02:28AM (#41446909)
          Whatever happens, even in the unlikely circumstance that the Australian Government should capriciously grant him citizenship, he will have to deal with a monopoly. Seems to me that for a supposedly smart guy, Woz hasn't thought this through.

          To elaborate,
          (1) When I migrated to Australia in 1987, the typical procedure was to apply through an Australian Consulate for a migrant visa, which after a qualifying period, was upgraded to permanent resident status. Only after a period of two years was it possible to apply for Australian citizenship. I am given to understand that conditions for such an application are now much stricter and more onerous.

          (2) The NBN (although IMO a very nice idea) is being implemented very patchily, and has never enjoyed the support of the opposition party in Federal Parliament, so may well end up being shitcanned after the next election, leaving the majority of households to fight for whatever best connection they can find, exactly as before. If Woz chooses to live close to a metropolitan area, he is likely to find a good ADSL2 connection from one or other of the major players such as Internode or iiNet, but that might be as good as he'll get.
          • Whatever happens, even in the unlikely circumstance that the Australian Government should capriciously grant him citizenship

            He undoubtedly has shitloads of cash so the business migration scheme applies and it's effectively a done deal. He doesn't hit the barriers deliberately put in the way of anyone that comes to Australia expecting to work for a living.
            As for point two, the libs are opposing any and all infrastructure spending at this time but once they are in control the NBN may be seen as popular pork.

          • Seems to me like Woz is making a very public political statement - and it seems to be generating discussion and thought.

            I imagine he's getting just what he wants out of this move.

  • Despite his status as a technology icon, Mr Wozniak said he was not connected to a broadband service in his home in California, classing the options available to him as a 'monopoly.'

    The National Broadband Network does not seem to be a plural.

    • by HJED (1304957) on Tuesday September 25, 2012 @01:04AM (#41446457)
      The NBN is a wholesaler, they are forbidden by legislation from becoming an ISP and all ISPs can sell through them (E.g. Telstra, iiNet, Optus)
    • by Cimexus (1355033)

      NBN is merely the physical infrastructure and cabling - a layer 2 network. It's open access. Anyone can sell retail services over it ... except NBN themselves, who are restricted by law to remaining purely as the guys maintaining and building the physical infrastructure.

  • Want fiber (Score:5, Funny)

    by kamapuaa (555446) on Tuesday September 25, 2012 @01:05AM (#41446461) Homepage

    This sucks, in Tokyo they've have fiber for years. I can illegally download a movie in a minute instead of like three minutes.

  • you've earned it, many times over.
  • by SteveWoz (152247) on Tuesday September 25, 2012 @01:39AM (#41446671) Homepage

    This "well known fact" is news to me.

    I have not applied for Australian citizenship but have taken some first steps towards it. I would very gladly be a devoted and loyal Australian. This has nothing to do with the NBN, which I do praise in concept, regardless of whether it even exists. I would love to be an Australian even with lower bandwidth like I have today in the States. I do applaud any attempts toward inclusion of all. For things as important as broadband, we should deal with our fellows as family and take care of those who just live in the wrong place. That's my personal opinion but it has nothing to do with why I would love to reside in Australia.

    Cheers, mates

    • For things as important as broadband, we should deal with our fellows as family and take care of those who just live in the wrong place.

      First of all, hi Woz if that's really you :) I don't know about your family, but in mine we don't force everybody to help less fortunate country dwellers get broadband where they live, especially since they don't help us, city dwellers, pay our rent and other higher costs of living. There are pros and cons to living in the middle of nowhere, and yet for some reason

    • by Dr Max (1696200)
      Come on peoples, +5 informative for woz writing in and correcting a story written about himself.
    • by Cimexus (1355033)

      OK so basically the article was a bunch of baloney. Thought so - a lot of stuff about it didn't add up.

      For instance, you can't just "apply" for Australian citizenship because you feel like it ... you need to have lived here for 4 years and/or meet other requirements first, I don't think they'll bypass those requirements just because you're famous (though getting a visa/permanent residence is a lot easier if you have fame/money ... there's visa classes for business investment and cultural contributions etc.)

    • Yeah, look. You can't just waltz in here and correct an article like that. We all know that primary sources (esp. if they are the person the article itself is about) are just not as reliable as good secondary sources. After all, you could go around you founded Apple or something if we didn't insist on good secondary sources.

      Be a good fellow and actually get an journo to write a correction or something, and then we'll use that article as the source. Though I'm still a bit sceptical about some of the things y

  • Someone tell Woz we Australia doesn't have a Bill of Rights and the government is busy taking away the few rights we have. Does anyone else think one of the reasons the gov't is pushing the NBN is because it provides a bottle-neck for them to snoop on us?

    Choose: 1. Freedom and ADSL2+ or 2. the NBN

    I pick 1.
    • by Dr Max (1696200)
      No, Senator Conroy is organizing the NBN, and he wouldn't want to censor and monitor everyone in Australia on the internet... Oh wait, that is exactly what he wanted, but got shut down a few years ago.
  • Woz was a great engineer, and has always had his eccentric side, but this is borderline kooky. Acquiring citizenship is not like changing cellular carriers, even if you are rich or famous. And while NBN may be a laudable notion, has he considered the internet censorship [wikipedia.org] that may well hamper its use?
  • Sorry to break it to you Steve, but I live 35.659km (as per google maps) from the center of Melbourne and I'm not on the NBN constuction list till after June 2015. Unless some serious cable comes to town I'll still be living the 10Mbit ADSL2 dream. Yeah I was excited when they announced the NBN, I really was.
    • by Cimexus (1355033)

      Wish I could get 10 Mbit ADSL2. 4 km from the CBD of Canberra and the most I can get is ~5 Mbps (crappy long line!). I AM on the NBN three-year rollout though :) (Early 2014)

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