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3-D Model Support Comes To MediaGoblin 37

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paroneayea writes "MediaGoblin and LulzBot have teamed up to bring 3-D model support to MediaGoblin! The announcement shows off a live demo of the new feature... it uses Blender on the backend to render stills and thingiview.js to show realtime WebGL previews. This means MediaGoblin is becoming more useful for 3-D artists and people interested in 3-D printing, especially those looking for a free-as-in-freedom alternative to Thingiverse."
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3-D Model Support Comes To MediaGoblin

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  • by Guano_Jim (157555) on Monday October 22, 2012 @01:55PM (#41731139)

    About a month ago there was a kerfuffle on Thingiverse coinciding with MakerBot's announcement of the Replicator 2 and a perceived change to the Thingiverse Terms of Service. It resulted in an "Occupy Thingiverse" movement where users uploaded protest models to the site.

    It seems to have died down, but since then a few folks started their own free-as-in-freedom alternatives to Thingiverse-- it'll be interesting to see if MediaGoblin can gain more traction than they did.

  • by Anonymous Coward

    I understand news messages should be kept short, but that does not imply the lack of essential information.

    • by paroneayea (642895) on Monday October 22, 2012 @02:08PM (#41731301) Homepage
      Heya, You're right actually, I missed submitting that. MediaGoblin is basically what you can think of as a free software, decentralized replacement to media publishing systems like YouTube/Flickr/SoundCloud... and now moving into the Thingiverse space. :)
      • by Bill, Shooter of Bul (629286) on Monday October 22, 2012 @02:25PM (#41731487) Journal

        Ok, the real advantage of Youtube,Flickr, et all is that they *are* centralized. I trust a link going to those sites.

        I don't trust these highlighted example sites running mediagoblin:

        http://wiki.mediagoblin.org/Live_instances [mediagoblin.org]

        • by Applekid (993327)

          Ok, the real advantage of Youtube,Flickr, et all is that they *are* centralized. I trust a link going to those sites.

          I don't trust these highlighted example sites running mediagoblin:

          http://wiki.mediagoblin.org/Live_instances [mediagoblin.org]

          There are two issues here, trusting those that own the servers flinging bits around and the codes that actually describes how the bit flinging should happen. You may trust Google and Yahoo to use their servers in supporting Youtube and Flickr, but can you really trust the code? You might trust it, but your trust is not based on anything observable since their back ends are not open source.

          So the missing part here is that, well, ok, Mediagoblin supports 3D objects, that's cool, but who is going to run the re

          • by Yeb (7194)

            Jeff Moe from LulzBot here (aka jebba). Thanks for your nice comments. :)

            We actually don't have an interest in *running* a free/open/libre repository, but we'd sure like to see one exist. Ideally, there should be a thingiverse-like site that is run more like the Wikipedia Foundation. A "neutral" non-profit, with no ads, run by donations. The donations can come from various 3D printer companies and end users.

            Also note, some folks think MediaGoblin is the hosting site. They are just the makers of the web soft

        • by jwandborg (2161834) on Monday October 22, 2012 @02:40PM (#41731659) Homepage
          Hey, I'm the owner of http://gobblin.se/ [gobblin.se]. The thing I think most users are afraid of is the CACert certificate that shows a big "WARNING, THIS SITE MAY KILL THE PEOPLE YOU LOVE THE MOST"-style message.

          I like SSL, but I don't want to pay a gazillion dollars for it, or anything at all - I'm already paying the bills for the server. That is why CACert is used.

          CACert validates domain ownership via an email to a typical admin e-mail such as info@gobblin.se, so you should be able to trust them for such things as media storage and serving.

          If you don't want to let CACert in your approved-ca-bucket, just use http://gobblin.se/ [gobblin.se].

          Also, no guarantees for anything on that server, if you want reliability you should either find someone to pay money for the service or set up your own instance.
          • I'm not really referring to the ssl cert, just that google, yahoo are giant internet companies that are pretty good at ensuring the safety of their sites. But since you brought up the ssl cost, I have to ask. Is six dollars really too much for you to pay for a ssl cert? Really? Really, really? Should I really trust a site that can't pony up $6 to host my media?

            • Mr. Money. You should donate to GNU MediaGoblin so that they can afford a "real" certificate, if they want to spend the money on that.
              • Again, GNU mediagoblin is not the hosting service. gobblin.se is a hosting service that (allegedly) uses media goblin.The issue here is trust. How do I trust this website I am unfamiliar with? Would I start out by giving them money to buy the certificate that will show me that they can afford 6.00 to prove that they are somewhat trustworthy? Does that make sense to anyone here? Bueller?

                • Again, GNU mediagoblin is not the hosting service. gobblin.se is a hosting service that (allegedly) uses media goblin.The issue here is trust. How do I trust this website I am unfamiliar with? Would I start out by giving them money to buy the certificate that will show me that they can afford 6.00 to prove that they are somewhat trustworthy? Does that make sense to anyone here? Bueller?

                  Sorry about the confusion.

                  I am the owner of gobblin.se. Gobblin is the largest open MediaGoblin instance out there as far as I know.

                  I am also one of the core contributors to GNU MediaGoblin, and I'd like to show my work in exchange of feedback. That is why I spend money on public services. Like with other free services, the user is the product, I'm simply buying testers for the MediaGoblin application by providing free video hosting.

                  I do simply not have the motivation to buy a SSL certificate for gob

      • by Animats (122034)

        It's software for running an upload site. It has shiny graphics, shinier than most other upload systems. The page layouts are squares in a grid, with a plain background. so it looks phone-like and trendy.

        As of right now, there is one (1) open MediaGoblin site [mediagoblin.org]. There are also two with registration disabled, and two of (non-porno) baby pictures.

        The current install setup is too complicated and requires root privileges. If this thing was made as easy to install as Wordpress, it might be more useful.

    • by wierd_w (1375923)

      From context, it appears to be a media sharing website for images and now, 3d objects.

      I might cruise it later. Finding free object files is a really painful process sometimes. (So much so that I often have to roll my own.)

      • by compro01 (777531) on Monday October 22, 2012 @02:22PM (#41731435)

        From context, it appears to be a media sharing website for images and now, 3d objects.

        Not quite. MediaGoblin is a free open source software suite developed by the GNU project for creating your own media sharing site.

        • It's not really developed by the GNU project. It's part of the GNU project [wikipedia.org]. It is developed by some 50 people with more or less no organizational affilliation to the GNU project or the Free Software Foundation.

          So far, the only person to get paid for development of GNU MediaGoblin is me - The Icelanding Ministry of Education, Science and Culture commisioned an API, which , but improveable. [gobblin.se]

          However, there is currently a fundraiser going on [mediagoblin.org] to support one full-time project leader during a year.

          Contribute!
  • Okay.... (Score:4, Insightful)

    by Minwee (522556) <dcr@neverwhen.org> on Monday October 22, 2012 @02:10PM (#41731327) Homepage

    So I read the summary, followed the links, wandered around the MediaGoblin web page, and I still have no clue what MediaGoblin is supposed to be.

    Apparently it's free software, built with awesome technology, and anyone can improve it, but it would help if one of those anyones could improve it by adding some kind of description.

    • Re:Okay.... (Score:4, Informative)

      by mounthood (993037) on Monday October 22, 2012 @02:24PM (#41731459)

      Video support is already here, and soon you'll be able to add plugins for almost any type of media publishing... including presentations or 3d model files. And we're planning for federation with OStatus so we can build a decentralized yet cohesive media hosting future.

      (emp. mine, found here [mediagoblin.org]) Amazing that so many projects can't get this most basic communication right. A one sentence description should be a priority for any project, otherwise how do you know what you're making?

    • by Fnord666 (889225)
      Did you try the home page [mediagoblin.org]?

      MediaGoblin is a free software media publishing platform that anyone can run. You can think of it as a decentralized alternative to Flickr, YouTube, SoundCloud, etc.

      How about wikipedia [wikipedia.org]?

      GNU MediaGoblin (also MediaGoblin) is a free web platform for hosting and sharing digital media,[7][8] aimed to provide an extensible, adaptive, decentralized and freedom-respectful software alternative to current art-and-media-related major internet services such as Flickr, deviantArt, YouTube, etc.[9][10]

      Those both seem pretty concise to me.

  • I learned absolutely nothing from that summary. And from what little I could gauge from it, I've got absolutely no idea why Slashdot would find this newsworthy (as opposed, to say, Freecode).

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