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GNOME2 Fork MATE Desktop 1.6 Released 86

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An anonymous reader writes "Excerpts from the announcement: 'This release is a giant step forward from the 1.4 release. In this release, we have replaced many deprecated packages and libraries with new technologies available in GLib. We have also added a lot of new features (...) MATE 1.6 is the result of 8 months of intense development and contains 1800 contributions by 39 people, and more than 150 translators.' See the release notes for a list of changes and new features." They've unforked a number of old GNOME 2 libraries, relying instead of technology from GLib/Gtk+ 3 and other projects where it makes sense. None of the new features really stand out on their own, but it looks like there are dozens of small improvements that should make the desktop experience more pleasant.
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GNOME2 Fork MATE Desktop 1.6 Released

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  • 'nuff said

  • as a mate desktop user i an glade to see progress, I do think though that they made a mistake early on forking most every gnome project when simply forking the desktop, panel, file browser and maybe window manager would of be enough. I mean why did they feel the need to fork the solitaire game when the problem was the desktop? but hopefully we will see the whole environment move on to gtk3 soon and then much of the redundancies between the Mate Gnome and Cinnamon projects could be merged and leave use with

  • by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 03, 2013 @11:25AM (#43349019)

    From what I'm seeing here the real improvement is that they've cleaned up the older GNOME code and moved deprecated stuff over to glib/gtk+. From a user standpoint it may be insignifcant, but from the maintenance perspective it's probably fantastic.

  • by duckgod (2664193) on Wednesday April 03, 2013 @11:52AM (#43349359)
    MATE is probably one of the best examples of how one owns a piece of open source software more then any proprietary software you would typically pay for. The Gnome team decided to take a radical direction in Gnome 3 development. As a user the MATE developers basically said "Thanks for your hard work but I don't really want Gnome 3". And that was that. Anyone using MATE still "own" all the time and effort put into Gnome 2. No one can ever take that away.

    Compare this to Windows 8 metro. Many people prefer the windows 7 desktop. One could argue that Windows can't take away their license to Windows 7 in a similar fashion to how Gnome team can't take away peoples copy of Gnome 2. Even ignoring the fact that I bet Windows could take away your copy of Windows 7 if they wanted, software as a standalone package needs to be updated to work with other software. In the physical world at least one could use adapters and such to keep a product useful. This is not available with closed source software and eventually people will have to abandon Windows 7.
    • by unixisc (2429386)
      On the KDE side, the same is true of Trinity DE
      • by HiThere (15173)

        Has Trinity become usable? The last time I tried to test it it required removing multiple packages, and then after I bit the bullet and did that, it didn't add itself to the login choices. So I've been reluctant to try it again.

    • by UnknownSoldier (67820) on Wednesday April 03, 2013 @01:25PM (#43350313)

      > In the physical world at least one could use adapters and such to keep a product useful.

      In the hardware world it is called "Forced Obsolescence"

      Apple is a master of it. i.e. micro-DVI, PowerPC, etc.

      Microsoft keeps trying and failing as businesses reject every other version. i.e. "Don't fix what isn't broken". The ONLY reason to ever update an OS is:
        a) security / bug-fixes
        b) features / drivers

      Sadly, it is Microsoft's best interest to NOT fix/add features so they can continue to sell you new versions which essentially the do the same thing as the previous version, but differently.

      Apple is a little saner by standardizing things such as System Preferences. Microsoft doesn't know a fucking thing about consistency.

      But yes open-source-software is By the People, For the People. :-)

      • by Microlith (54737)

        It's "Planned Obsolescence," actually, and isn't highlighted by the examples you cite, as those are caused by shifts in industry (the shift away from PowerPC was now 7 years ago.)

        A better example is how handset makers design a device and support it poorly once it is sold (leaving security holes open, not porting versions of Android that the hardware is more than capable of running) with the goal of rendering it obsolete and pushing users to buy the next device.

      • by Nivag064 (904744)

        Micro who?

    • by efitton (144228)
      Have you looked at Windows XP market share? By the time I have to abandon Windows 7, Windows 9 or 10 will be here and at some point Microsoft will listen to their customers (especially businesses). If they don't listen they lose revenue, etc. and bad stuff happens. When Gnome developers don't listen you get Gnome 3 and the "self congratulating echo chamber." They don't know how many users they have, they don't have forums, they don't have voting on bugzilla. They are scratching their personal software itch

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