Android 4.4 Named 'KitKat' 247
Today Google revealed that the next major version of the Android mobile operating system will be called 'KitKat.' The naming convention has always used sugary snacks in alphabetical order — Jelly Bean (4.1 - 4.3) followed Ice Cream Sandwich (4.0), which followed Honeycomb (3.1 - 3.2), which followed Gingerbread (2.3), and so on. Unlike the previous releases, KitKat is named after an actual product, rather than a generic treat. Thus, Google contacted Nestle, who was happy to jump on board and take advantage of the cross-marketing opportunities. According to an article at the BBC, the Android team was originally going to use 'Key Lime Pie,' but they decided it wasn't familiar enough to most people. After finding some KitKat bars in the company fridge, they made the choice to switch. Nestle was on board 'within an hour' of hearing the idea.
Oh, just great ... (Score:5, Interesting)
Android 4.5, brought to you by Pepsi can't be far from here.
Screw you and your cross marketing opportunities.
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Android 6 is Pepsi
by then its going to be a new generation of people using it who are now kids, and everyone knows that Pepsi is the Choice of a new Generation
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Android 6 is Pepsi
by then its going to be a new generation of people using it who are now kids, and everyone knows that Pepsi is the Choice of a new Generation
Can't wait for Tipsy Android. Although, Android Screwdriver seems quite attractive as well.
Re:Oh, just great ... (Score:4, Funny)
Android 6 is Pepsi
by then its going to be a new generation of people using it who are now kids, and everyone knows that Pepsi is the Choice of a new Generation
be sociable, drink a pepsi. be young and fair and debonair, have a pepsi. pepsi for those who think young -- such as vice president nixon and premier khrushchev
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Android 6 is Pepsi by then its going to be a new generation of people using it who are now kids, and everyone knows that Pepsi is the Choice of a new Generation
be sociable, drink a pepsi. be young and fair and debonair, have a pepsi. pepsi for those who think young -- such as vice president nixon and premier khrushchev
More like "Android 6 Pepsi"
Brought to you by Carl's Jr. - Fuck you, I'm eating
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Will only happen if Pepsi changes it name to something that starts with the letter L.
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The worst iced tea I ever tasted. Weird aftertaste. I guess it can best be described as a liquid that was almost, but not quite, entirely unlike iced tea.
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Android 4.5, brought to you by Pepsi can't be far from here.
Screw you and your cross marketing opportunities.
As the cute code names for software releases have gained some popularity during the recent years, I wonder if some OSS project could also use the "KitKat" trick and get some sponsor money to accelerate development.
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We always made damned sure our development code names weren't ever something the sales and marketing weasels would latch onto, and that weretotally unrelated to what we were doing. In fact, that was the entire point of them.
If it sounded cool or interesting, they'd start selling it before it existed. To me the code name is to allow you to talk about it without people knowing what you're talking about or co-opting it for marketing material.
It's not supposed to be cute or catchy. It's to keep the sales guy
And Android 4.5 will be named... (Score:5, Funny)
Mountain KitKat
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iOS 7-UP?
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"Android 4.5, brought to you by Pepsi can't be far from here."
I agree. This is bullshit.
While past releases might have been named "after an actual product", none of the prior releases have been named after a trademarked product. They've always been generic.
Google, this was a bonehead move. When are you going to stop putting your foot up your own ass?
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Android 4.5, brought to you by Pepsi can't be far from here.
Screw you and your cross marketing opportunities.
It should get interesting towards the end though. Can anybody think of a well know sugary snack whose name begins with 'x'? I suppose Xylitol qualifies even though it is an artificial sweetener but it is also a laxative so... umm... not the best choice.
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It'll be 'L' for LifeSavers.
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Mountain Dew and Mello Yello can have a bidding war over the M entry (Version 5 maybe)
(I generally drink Sun Drop, but the other 2 are OK)
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Mountain Dew and Mello Yello can have a bidding war over the M entry (Version 5 maybe)
(I generally drink Sun Drop, but the other 2 are OK)
M and M (s), surely.
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That's fine and all, but I really don't care about the OS name. There's multiple articles out there and people going crazy _just for the name_. I want to know what's new in the OS for developers, not what their next marketing strategy is.
Also, the Android OS version apparently doesn't really matter anymore... they moved all of the critical API stuff to "Google Play Services" which auto-updates every week or so, and pretty much supports everything back to Android 2.2
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2013/09/balky-carriers-and-slow-oems-step-aside-google-is-defragging-android/ [arstechnica.com]
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Reminds me of people complaining what the next Playstation or Xbox will look like. Who cares?
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lsb_release -c | cut -f2
"Nestle was on board 'within an hour' of hearing" (Score:2)
You mean they didn't want to turn down a free opportunity to have their trademark splashed all over the world in marketing blurbs for the next couple of years on someone else's dime? Shocking!
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Wait until they find out that KitKat is a steaming pile and it'll be too late. Don't try to associate your product with something that's completely out of your control. Murphy's Law will get you. Same goes for Android, as they can't control what people think of KitKats.
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Actually, reading the article, I rather think they have. Otherwise they wouldn't be doing stuff like this:
"To promote the alliance, Nestle now plans to deliver more than 50 million chocolate bars featuring the Android mascot to shops in 19 markets, including the UK, US, Brazil, India, Japan and Russia.
The packaging had to be produced in advance over the past two months. But despite the scale of the operation, the two firms managed to keep the story a secret,"
"KitKat"? (Score:5, Funny)
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Or an infamous night club. [wikipedia.org]
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Give me a break!
is what people will scream when the phone bricks up on them.
Advertising Company (Score:5, Insightful)
Google: Not Evil, Just Cosying Up With Evil (Score:5, Informative)
From Nestlé's Wikipedia page [wikipedia.org] alone:
Chocolate price fixing: "Nestlé recently agreed to pay $9-million, without admitting liability, in a settlement subject to court approval in the new year. But a massive class-action continues in the United States". Nestlé CEO Robert Leonidas is under threat of a criminal charge for his role in the price fixing of chocolates in Canada when he was at the helm of Nestlé Canada from 2006 to 2010.
Marketing of formula: One of the most prominent controversies involving Nestlé concerns the promotion of the use of infant formula to mothers across the world, including developing countries – an issue that attracted significant attention in 1977 as a result of the Nestlé boycott, which is still ongoing. Nestlé continues to draw criticism that it is in violation of a 1981 World Health Organization code that regulates the advertising of breast milk substitutes.[34] Groups such as the International Baby Food Action Network (IBFAN) and Save the Children claim that the promotion of infant formula over breastfeeding has led to health problems and deaths among infants in less economically developed countries.
Ethiopian debt: In 2002, Nestlé demanded that the nation of Ethiopia repay $6 million of debt to the company. Ethiopia was suffering a severe famine at the time. Nestlé backed down from its demand after more than 8,500 people complained via e-mail to the company about its treatment of the Ethiopian government. The company agreed to re-invest any money it received from Ethiopia back into the country.
Melamine in Chinese milk: In late September 2008, the Hong Kong government found melamine in a Chinese-made Nestlé milk product. Six infants died from kidney damage, and a further 860 babies were hospitalised. The Dairy Farm milk was made by Nestlé's division in the Chinese coastal city Qingdao. Nestlé affirmed that all its products were safe and were not made from milk adulterated with melamine. On 2 October 2008, the Taiwan Health ministry announced that six types of milk powders produced in China by Nestlé contained low-level traces of melamine, and were "removed from the shelves".
Greenwashing: A coalition of environmental groups filed a complaint against Nestlé to the Canadian Code of Advertising Standards after Nestlé took out full-page advertisements in October 2008 claiming that "Most water bottles avoid landfill sites and are recycled", "Nestlé Pure Life is a healthy, eco-friendly choice" and that "Bottled water is the most environmentally responsible consumer product in the world". A spokesperson from one of the environmental groups stated: "For Nestlé to claim that its bottled water product is environmentally superior to any other consumer product in the world is not supportable". In their 2008 Corporate Citizenship Report, Nestlé themselves stated that many of their bottles end up in the solid-waste stream, and that most of their bottles are not recycled. The advertising campaign has been called greenwashing.
Zimbabwe farms: In late September 2009, it was brought to light that Nestlé was buying milk from illegally seized farms currently operated by Robert Mugabe's wife, Grace Mugabe. Mugabe and his regime are currently subject to European Union sanctions. Nestlé later stopped buying milk from the dairy farms in question.
Palm oil use: Rapid deforestation in Borneo and other regions, in order to harvest hardwood and make way for palm oil plantations, releases large amounts of carbon dioxide into the atmosphere. In particular, where peat swamp forests are cleared, destroying the habitat for many threatened species of animals such as the orangutan, much public attention has been given to the social and environmental impact of palm oil and the role of multinationals such as Nestlé in this.There is ongoing concern by various NGOs including Greenpeace.
On its
Re:Google: Not Evil, Just Cosying Up With Evil (Score:5, Interesting)
The guys at Apple are having a good day today. The Boycott Nestle folks (I know many, and they're not the political types, mostly educated moms) may boycott any Android device running this version, just to send the message that those who build associations with Nestle get the same treatment.
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Yup, I'm sure Apple's really excited that perhaps 0.00000001% of the population (that probably are pretentious enough they use iPhones already), might not buy an Android phone. And they'll share the news among themselves on their blogs.
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These would be the same people whose Apple products are made in factories with anti-suicide nets installed on them? Something something, pot kettle.
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factories with anti-suicide nets installed on them?
That's interesting - Foxconn already had a suicide rate below the population average, and then they did something which has apparently saved lives. Yes, we shall chastise them for doing so.
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If you cut the chaff (Marketing infant formula? What the Fuck? That's supposed to be "evil?")
Yes, it is. In fact, it's probably the biggest reason many people dislike (and boycott [wikipedia.org]) Nestlé by far, and something that goes back almost 40 years.
Nestlé promotes powdered formula as being superior to breast feeding to poor mothers in countries where they know very well that (a) there's insufficient access to clean, uncontaminated water and (b) people often lack the ability to maintain the standards of hygiene required.
Under such circumstances, both these significantly increase the risk of di
Stock in Key Lime Pie (Score:2)
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Obligatory Simpsons quote:
Don't do the crime, if you can't do the ...
http://i.imgur.com/GKGCtZD.jpg [imgur.com]
KEY LIME!
That's Racist, Yo. (Score:2)
Coincidentally, just the other day I was watching Aziz Ansari's stand-up special, Deliciously Dangerous, in which the comedian covers the topic quite succinctly:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIXl1e0d5QI [youtube.com]
Hudson Hawk Reference (Score:2)
Don't forget Kit Kat (played by David Caruso) from Hudson Hawk -- http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0102070/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1 [imdb.com]
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It's from Hudson Hawk, I would prefer to forget it.
Real Chocolate... (Score:3)
Maybe now Nestle will sell the same KitKat bars in the US as they do in Canada. KitKat bars in the US have a candy chocolate coating. In Canada, and in the rest of the world, they use milk chocolate. Plus, they have a KitKat chunky... more milk chocolatey goodness...
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I thought the ersatz chocolate they use in Canada was bad enough. You're telling me it's even worse in the US?
I guess that figures. Just like American "cheese", frozen dairy desert, edible oil product and so on.
Branding (Score:2)
Just call it Ketchup (Score:2)
Ketchup :)
Sweet condiment
course then you'd have joked Android Ketchup more like "catch-up"
so yea probably wouldn't work
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Honeycomb's BIG, yeah yeah, yeah! (Score:2)
It's not small. No no no!
Honeycomb's got...a big big bite!
Big big (taste/crunch) in a big big bite!
At least, it USED to be, until the nutrition nazis ruined it, like seemingly everything else from our childhoods. :-(
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honeycomb_(cereal) [wikipedia.org]
Seriously? (Score:2)
Key Lime Pie is less common than kit kats? Look, I enjoy kitkats, always have, but I've had way more key lime pie in my life. It's kinda sad that your country in general feels the reverse. Sad, and not unexpected.
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Nobody outside the US, or who's vacationed in Florida (or at least the southern US) has any idea WTF "Key Lime Pie" is, especially people in China & India.
Hell, I *GREW UP* in Florida, and was in HIGH SCHOOL before I had any idea what Key Lime Pie is. I'd be shocked if a random developer in Bangalore or Hong Kong, let alone Mumbai or Beijing, would have had the slightest idea what it was without researching it on Google.
Kit Kat, in contrast, is a global brand. Not necessarily a #1 item like M&Ms, bu
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All true. But I've never been to Florida, and none of my friends are anywhere near Florida. But we've been eating and making key lime pie for decades. Anyone who's ever made a pie, and has access to some kind of lime, key or otherwise, should have heard of key lime pie. It's nothing complicated. It's lime pie, no different in concept from lemon pie or pumpkin pie.
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They using the same alphabet I'm using?
Let's see:
" J (elly Bean) followed I (ce Cream Sandwich) which followed H (oneycomb)".
Yes, I think they are. Why do you ask?
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No. They're using the correct alphabet.
the self-proclaimed patent owners of that alphabet (Score:2)
Didn't you pay the self-proclaimed patent owners of that alphabet either?
Be sure, Google will _never_ pay Apple for using the alphabet.
Don't ever pay Apple for using the alphabet!
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No turns out I'm just dumb and can't read.
Dang, you're cold /.
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No turns out I'm just dumb and can't read.
Dang, you're cold /.
He should just be glad it wasn't modded "Insightful"...
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Dang, you're cold /.
Nope, just mildly autistic.
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I read "followed by" too, but I just assumed the slashdot summary was written badly. Even though I was wrong, I'm sticking to that theory.
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What the hell is a "Froyo", anyway? It makes me think of a hobbit, not a dessert.
Re:Alphabet (Score:5, Informative)
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Ah, that makes sense now. Thanks.
And now I don't imagine it being pronounced "froy-o" (rhymes with "boyo") instead of "fro-yo."
Not sure that's relevant enough to count as my "something I learned today" but at least it's one less incongruity messing with my brain. :)
Re:Alphabet (Score:5, Insightful)
... and yet they thought "key lime pie" was too unfamiliar?
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The Florida Key Lime Growers Association made a lower bid?
Seriously, though, I won't break my sugar-free 'diet' for a KitKat, but wave some key lime pie in front of me ... what an opportunity to educate the masses and help farmers instead of a company that is famous for marketing infant formula as superior to breast milk in areas with unsafe drinking water.
Is it really worth being associated with baby killing?
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Key West? You'll be the death of me.
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Manufactured infant formula doesn't contain the immunity/protective factors that human breast milk contains, therefore infants (especially those already compromised by other environmental conditions such as slum dwelling, chronic sub-standard diets in the region/country, etc) fed on that formula are denied the benefits of said protective factors, thus leading to increased levels of disease and consequently death in infant populations. Human breast milk (with some exceptions such as maternal drug intake - bo
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At the time they used "froyo", they weren't really using those codenames in their marketing, I guess.
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... and yet they thought "key lime pie" was too unfamiliar?
These are people who keep KitKat bars in the fridge, what can you expect? Unless they've got a mouse problem at the Googleplex, then it actually makes sense.
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These are people who keep KitKat bars in the fridge, what can you expect?
The part that surprised me is that the people at Google couldn't think of another 'k' name until they happened upon a candy in the fridge when they could have Googled it:
http://www.google.com/search?q=list+of+candies&btnI [google.com]
It doesn't sound like the whole story. Also, 'kiwi' would have been a healthier option.
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It sounds like the story you are imagining is a boardroom full of executives trying to think of K-word snacks better-known than Key Lime Pie for hours because of a naming emergency. I agree that's unlikely.
I expect the "whole story" is something like somebody emailing the naming group with "We have KitKat in our fridge (???) but no Key Lime Pie. I don't even know what Key Lime Pie tastes like. Maybe we should call the next version KitKat instead", some replies that were "+1", followed by "okay, we'll cal
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The first time I bit into a US KitKat I was shocked and appalled. I wondered what was wrong with it. I had just assumed it would taste the same as it did elsewhere.
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Briefly they test dark chocolate coffee ones... They were among the best candy bars I've ever had. Obviously this meant they were discontinued.
As for the US ones sucking, at least, in the candy sphere, we're still better than the UK. I've never had a good British chocolate, their milk chocolate makes ours look good. Doubly true for the hideous Aero bars... Bleh.
Green tea KitKats are amazing. You make me want to hop over to our local asian market and grab some candy... And Pocky. Tons of Pocky. Wash
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This might be true of dark chocolate, but British milk chocolate is evil, at least as far as I've experienced it at import stores.
I'm not a huge fan of milk chocolate (the opposite of a fan, generally), but the American version isn't quite as anemic, and doesn't turn into mouth slime. Again, it doesn't matter much, since milk chocolate is pretty vile universally, barring some exceptions (again, Pocky... mmmm).
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Frozen Yogurt. Not a new term as far as I know.
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True, same as getting a salad at McDonald's -- it's got more fat and sugar than the Big Mac.
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True, same as getting a salad at McDonald's -- it's got more fat and sugar than the Big Mac.
i doubt the veracity of those statements.
the big mac has: 28g fat, 46g carbs, and 9 g sugars.
the "worst" salad has 22g fat, 24g carbs, and 7g sugars.
http://nutrition.mcdonalds.com/getnutrition/nutritionfacts.pdf [mcdonalds.com]
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That's with either no dressing or minimal dressing. Addthe dressings most people will be eating on that salad for a real number.
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they paid money for the developer team that made the open source stack, and to keep others from aquiring said developer team.
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Astro" and "Bender", before they realized that naming Android versions after fictional robots would lead to trademark problems.
Whereas naming them after trademarked candy bars will be no problem at all in today's litigious IP climate.
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Why not 'candybar', or whatever non-commercial name? Seems like a silly choice.
Because that doesn't begin with a 'k'.
(and 'kandi' sounds like the name of a pornographic actress)
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Not only that, but it demonstrates Google's furtherance of Whig objectives.
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Thank you, you just ruined my afternoon.
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'Candybar' doesn't start with K. Besides, it's a silly joint marketing ploy. Hard to do with generic names.
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Why not 'candybar', or whatever non-commercial name? Seems like a silly choice.
Well, probably because "candy bar" doesn't start with a K.
And I'm not sure I buy the "not familiar with" story. More likely somebody made an offhand suggestion of KitKat and marketing messed their shorts over the idea of "cross marketing opportunities".
"Key Lime" would have been a great name.
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I'm not sure I buy the "not familiar with" story.
I've not heard of a Key Lime Pie before (I'm British). Wikipedia has a page, and it looks like a lemon meringue pie with a particular variety of limes rather than lemons.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lemon_meringue_pie [wikipedia.org]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Key_lime_pie [wikipedia.org] ("Key lime pie is an American dessert...")
However, it probably is just marketing. An unknown (to me) American dessert was already used: froyo.
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Do we get to take credit for Frozen Yogurt? That's pretty cool. I didn't know that was ours. Its by far the healthiest desert I know of.
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Do we get to take credit for Frozen Yogurt? That's pretty cool. I didn't know that was ours.
You do indeed!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frozen_yogurt [wikipedia.org] "Frozen yogurt was introduced in New England, north-east United States, in the 1970s as a soft serve dessert by H. P. Hood under the name Frogurt."
Its by far the healthiest desert I know of.
Full-fat yoghurt is perhaps healthier (fewer calories).
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It's not usually served with a meringue on top like that. Well, not outside of the Florida keys.
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Sorry about our deserts not being boiled, but froyo is frozen yogurt which even you should be able to get. How is it exactly that the limeys are unaware of lime pie?
Hey, it would be pretty boring if Britain was just a smaller, older version of the USA. Frozen yoghurt is available, but only quite recently.
Here's some (supposedly) quintessentially British desserts: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/expat/expatpicturegalleries/9213506/Famous-British-desserts-in-pictures.html [telegraph.co.uk] (including a few I've never heard of).
None boiled, though a couple are steamed. (None deep-fried either, the author clearly wasn't from Scotland [wikipedia.org])
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Yeah, the milk makes it much different.
I'd explain it as a cross between lemon meringue and cheesecake in consistency, with lime taste, of course. Although that might be a poor approximation.
.. or Butthead Astronomer (Score:5, Informative)
Apple once famously code named new version "Sagan", but Carl Sagan objected. So they renamed it BHA, for "Butt head Astronomer". Sagan sued.
http://www.lettersofnote.com/2012/03/butt-head-astronomer.html [lettersofnote.com]
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... in a fire? Pretty please?
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http://casualfurday.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/9-keylime-450x300.jpg [casualfurday.com]