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Google Ends Internet Explorer 9 Support In Google Apps 199

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An anonymous reader writes "Google has announced it is discontinuing support for Internet Explorer 9 in Google Apps, including its Business, Education, and Government editions. Google says it has stopped all testing and engineering work related to IE9, given that IE11 was released on October 17 along with Windows 8.1. This means that IE9 users who access Gmail and other Google Apps services will be notified 'within the next few weeks' that they need to upgrade to a more modern browser. Google says this will either happen through an in-product notification message or an interstitial page."
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Google Ends Internet Explorer 9 Support In Google Apps

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  • by Anonymous Coward

    Not that anyone uses IE except for when they have to

    • Here in businessland they just block Gmail and Google Drive anyway...
      • My employer must not be in "businessland" then, because it uses Google Apps mail, and Google Apps mail uses the same codebase as Gmail.
        • by mwvdlee (775178)

          Are you also allowed to access your private Gmail account?

          • Re: (Score:2, Insightful)

            by Anonymous Coward
            Of course, I'm allowed access to anything I want. You see, the company I work at understands that its employees are all adults and are capable of exercising self-control. That's why they don't try to control us like children as your company apparently does.
        • Time to switch to Office 365 then.

          They value our time and costs it takes after millions to get IE 8 just year. WTF

          Google wont have customers anymore at this rate. The 22 year old programmers there have never worked in a production environment. Google doesnt count as they money to burn and its not labeled a cost center

    • by MickyTheIdiot (1032226) on Wednesday November 06, 2013 @12:06PM (#45345725) Homepage Journal

      Okay... really... I have a hard time feeling bad about that.

      The fact is that those companies bought into web apps that worked on ONE browser. That's stupid. As a matter of fact, if you are going to build an app that works on ONE browser on ONE platform why not write the thing in an actual language because the advantage is supposed to be using it on multiple platforms.

      • by smash (1351) on Wednesday November 06, 2013 @12:13PM (#45345827) Homepage Journal
        Sometimes it isn't YOUR company's app you need to use. In the real world, businesses deal with OTHER BUSINESSES.
        • by vitaflo (20507)

          Sometimes it isn't YOUR company's app you need to use. In the real world, businesses deal with OTHER BUSINESSES.

          And if you want to use Google's app's you'll need IE10 or a modern browser. It goes both ways.

          • by tepples (727027)
            To what extent do modern web browsers for Windows respect the web policies deployed through Windows group policy?
            • by styrotech (136124)

              Chrome has (or at least had last time I looked) an 'enterprise' download that could be managed via Group Policy and do updates on a centralised schedule.

      • Because it's far easier to deploy a web app than an native app. You only need to update it in one place and as long as the user has the right browser they can access it from wherever. This is of course completely screwed by the arrival of tablets but then that's what happens when monopolies go unpunished.

    • by smash (1351) on Wednesday November 06, 2013 @12:10PM (#45345785) Homepage Journal
      Not quite that bad here, i've gotten rid of almost all of our XP, but we have apps that work in IE9, but not IE10. One app won't work in IE9 yet, and unfortunately it's not our app - we're a contractor and the customer's flight booking app is IE8 or previous only.
      • by h4rr4r (612664)

        You run those things via Remote Desktop or use multiple IE installs. I know those suck, but they suck less than using IE8 everywhere.

        • by smash (1351)

          Nah, we just blocked IE9 from the couple of PCs that need it. Pretty much everything is on Win7 x64/IE9 at the moment, testing IE11/Win8.1 at the moment as the PHBs are wanting to "run office on my tablet" (excel mostly, and numbers won't do it). Looked into doing it with View + iPad, but it obviously wont work without connectivity. So currently evaluating Windows tablets. Possibly something like a Lenovo Helix which can replace their laptop as well.

          Interesting times, I really do wish for the day whe

      • by POWRSURG (755318)
        Then I guess it's a good thing that IE8+ actually lets you specify which version of IE (from 7 on up) to display a website (though it is harder in IE11). Microsoft learned from the backlash they received for breaking intranets when they released IE7 so this really should not be an issue for anyone anymore.
    • by Guspaz (556486)

      Even businessland has largely abandoned IE6 in most of the world... the marketshare of IE6 in North America is 0.2%. China is the only country with any significant use of IE6.

    • by Tiger4 (840741)

      Right on the nose! Coming to you live from IE8 ! I can't wait to get back to my Firefox machine. It is only stuck on FF ESR 17

      Between ultra conservative policies and massive filtering, I'm surprised I can even see /. let alone get it to work.

      • by danomac (1032160)

        But firefox increases the version number every week, so you're only ten weeks behind!

  • Well, (Score:5, Funny)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 06, 2013 @11:56AM (#45345607)

    why do IE9 need any "special support" at all? standards-incompatible browser?

    • by gravis777 (123605)

      Google apps doesn't want to support obsolete software. Microsoft doesn't want to support obsolete software. Run Firefox or Opera (I think Chrome still supports XP as well).

      When Firefox and others stop supporting XP, and people find that XP no longer meets their needs, they will upgrade.

      Tough shit, XP is 12 years old. Get over it.

      Your corporation still runs XP as many of your apps are not compatable with newer versions and you also use Google Apps in the workplace? Sucks to be you - you have known for years

    • by cdrudge (68377)

      It doesn't need special support necessarily. It's just a way for a company to officially say that they are discontinuing support for that browser to guarantee that it works. You still may be able to use the previous version to the full app's potential, but if you do have a problem, do go crying to Google about it.

      The exact same policy that exists for IE exists for Firefox and Safari as well. They support the current and second most recent version, and discontinue the 3rd most recent. It's less of a big d

  • Walled Garden (Score:2, Interesting)

    by 0xG (712423)
    Although IE* is crap, I can see that Google is heading for the walled garden approach, like Apple.
    Use our apps. Best with Chrome...
    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      by i kan reed (749298)

      Yeah, at some point recentyish Google crossed into completely unlikable territory. While that might drive technically adept people away, their momentum and existing user base can be mined for as much money as possible in the meantime. 10 years ago google was awesome. Today, I wouldn't bat an eye if they got wiped from the face of the planet.

      • by smash (1351)
        If by recently you mean in say, 2004 then you would be correct.
      • by Nerdfest (867930)

        They've done a couple of out of character things lately (youtube play button signing people up for Google+, and XMPP support), but I don't think dropping support for a browser that doesn't follow standards is particularly bad. I think they're still a lesser evil than any of their competitors in most markets. I'm not saying that it's a high bar or anything ...

        • IE 9 is not very far from standards compliance, in any sort of pragmatic sense. I usually don't have to worry about CSS/javascript issues causing problems anymore when I develop code for websites(because I ignore IE 7 and before).

    • Re:Walled Garden (Score:5, Interesting)

      by bill_mcgonigle (4333) * on Wednesday November 06, 2013 @12:15PM (#45345843) Homepage Journal

      Yeah, I started using Apps for nonprofits for a local group, and sometime in the early summer, the spreadsheets stopped working for anything but Chrom[e,ium], as far as columns lining up with the row markers. There's an open issue on it, lots of people bitching about current Firefox being broken, but no fixes or response from Google.

      Obviously, I need to switch to a different solution, since I can't force all my volunteers to use a particular browser.

      • There's an open issue on it, lots of people bitching about current Firefox being broken, but no fixes or response from Google.

        Obviously, I need to switch to a different solution,

        the only thing obvious here is that firefox is not following the w3c standard.

        since I can't force all my volunteers to use a particular browser.

        you dont have to force developers to fix an issue but they are much more likely to oblige if you offer them money in return for their services. now if only there was a place where you could do such a thing. [bountysource.com]

        • the only thing obvious here is that firefox is not following the w3c standard.

          Strong claim - which one would that be?

          they are much more likely to oblige if you offer them money in return for their services

          Google Apps devs are participating?

      • by Bogtha (906264)

        Are you referring to this issue [mozilla.org]? It seems to me that the problem is caused by Firefox making some text disproportionately big compared with other text due to its minimum font size settings, and you can fix the problem by changing Firefox's settings to not interfere with the font size.

        • Interesting, I'll have to check it out. The complaints I was seeing were on the Google product forums, vs. mozilla.org. The trick here is that half of my volunteers are retirees. The per-site minimum font size extension mentioned on that page will be worth looking at.

    • Re:Walled Garden (Score:5, Informative)

      by Bogtha (906264) on Wednesday November 06, 2013 @01:28PM (#45346697)

      This is no indication of that. One of the biggest problems web developers face is people using old browsers that aren't as technically capable. It increase the effort required to implement and maintain features, particularly for large, complex web applications.

      Google have a long-standing policy to support the most recent major version of browsers and the previous major version. What prompted the dropping of support for Internet Explorer 9 was the release of Internet Explorer 11 a couple of weeks ago.

      They described this policy - which applies to all browsers, not just Internet Explorer - a couple of years ago [blogspot.co.uk]. When they did so, they explicitly provided links to download the latest versions of major browsers, including Internet Explorer.

      This is not a conspiracy to punish Internet Explorer users. This is an effort to reduce unnecessary work for their engineering teams.

    • only supporting standards compliant browsers is NOT a walled garden because anyone can implement a working browser as it's well defined and spec'd out standard with compliance tests and all. dont want to follow the agreed upon standard? fine but dont come back with crocodile tears. no browser (not even Chrome) should have any exceptions made for their bad behavior. it's a standard, not a suggestion.

  • We're stuck on 9 (Score:5, Interesting)

    by cant_get_a_good_nick (172131) on Wednesday November 06, 2013 @12:05PM (#45345709)

    Hell, we moved off of 6 sometime this year. We don't personally run Google Apps, but we can't be unique in having IE restrictions such as that.

    We're also a Linux firm, and the latest Firefox you can run on our Linux (RedHat AS 5, moving to 6) is Firefox 17. Chrome/Chromium won't even run at all.

  • We've got a number of programs and a few outside websites that require IE9 or older. Good thing that we're cool with letting our users have Firefox and Chrome, though some of them really like IE and would rather use that instead.

  • And yet... (Score:5, Funny)

    by FuzzNugget (2840687) on Wednesday November 06, 2013 @02:18PM (#45347203)
    Slashdot still shows the IE8 icon.

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