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GNOME 3.14 Released 250

An anonymous reader writes "GNOME 3.14 was released today and it includes some interesting changes such as re-worked default theme, multi-touch gestures for both the system and applications, and new animations. Information including details on all the new features can be found here."
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GNOME 3.14 Released

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  • It looks soo old and dated with shadows and 3rd effects like lines and colors and text smaller than 72 pixels.

    I want my flat non color all white interface. I want to go to the coffee hipster stop with my tablet with just shades of gray or pastel colors with no lines separatin elements. My art professors and chicken will drool at this as this is the ultimate consumption is for servers

  • by enter to exit ( 1049190 ) on Wednesday September 24, 2014 @07:25PM (#47989509)
    There's still an inordinate amount of padding on everything. It maks my screen feel like 800x600.

    On top of that, gnome have an activity bar and each application a window decoration bar and then a menu bar. When running a maximized program, the bars are placed directly under each other and good chunk of the upper screen is wasted.

    The activity bar still does nothing and the window decoration bar typically has a single close button. It's a gigantic waste of space.
    • by RightwingNutjob ( 1302813 ) on Wednesday September 24, 2014 @10:23PM (#47990409)
      How about the status bar in nautilus replaced by a popover text bar like in Firefox that makes it impossible to read both the name and modification time of the bottom-most file in list view by default? Whole thing must have been designed by blind monkeys.
      • by Undead Waffle ( 1447615 ) on Wednesday September 24, 2014 @11:14PM (#47990597)
        Or the fact that the nautilus window doesn't have a minimize button. Because who minimizes things?
        • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

          by maweki ( 999634 )
          Minimizing in GNOME would be useless. Have you even looked at the ideas behind it? You switch applications via the activities button. There you see all windows and can choose. And you can send the current window to the back with the middle mouse button to the window title. Why would you ever want to minimize anything without the task bar as the only means of context switching? Even alt-tab shows you window previews.
          • by POPE Mad Mitch ( 73632 ) on Thursday September 25, 2014 @03:17AM (#47991297) Homepage

            Because -clutter-. I never maximise any windows, thats such a huge waste of screen space, even on a smaller laptop screen i still have some shells open in the background with logs and chat sessions etc in them. the main working window takes maybe 70% of the screen, and everything not in use right now, like email clients, browser, etc are minimised so they dont produce visual clutter.

          • by strikethree ( 811449 ) on Thursday September 25, 2014 @05:57AM (#47991741) Journal

            Minimizing in GNOME would be useless. Have you even looked at the ideas behind it?

            I am sure the ideas behind it are absolutely awesome. All I can say is, "Thank you for determining my workflow for me. I had no idea at all that I was doing everything all wrong. I will immediately begin unlearning all of the habits that I have learned over the decades so that I can become slightly more efficient according to someone elses metrics. I am VERY VERY glad that there is no way to alter the workflow because then I might be tempted to stay with my old bad habits while the rest of the world moved on without me! I am sure they would all miss me... so again, thank you."

            I just don't know what I would do without Microsoft, Gnome, and Apple all forcing me to change my workflow and habits to be better. God. Can you imagine that a looooong loooooong time ago we were all actually forced to use terminals? No GUI at all! I just wished they would make it impossible to use terminals at all anymore so we would never be bothered by such garbage again. I guess Gnome is not as awesome as they thought they were since it is still (technically) possible to fire up a terminal and start, EGAD!, typing. What an archaic concept.

            Speaking of which, why doesn't Slashdot just make us record what we want to say and when you go through the comments, you listen to them instead of read them. Reading is so archaic. I am unsure why anyone does it anymore. It is certainly not useful to ME.

            • by putaro ( 235078 )

              At least with terminals you could arrange them how you like. Ah, the joys of 3 VT100s on your desk.

            • by chihowa ( 366380 ) *

              I just wished they would make it impossible to use terminals at all anymore so we would never be bothered by such garbage again. I guess Gnome is not as awesome as they thought they were since it is still (technically) possible to fire up a terminal and start, EGAD!, typing. What an archaic concept.

              Don't worry. In Gnome 3.swipeup.swipeleft, the terminal will be replaced by a multitouch paint program where you enter all of your commands from an arcane collection of gestures! Four-finger-left, three-finger-pinch, tap for the win!

      • Nautilus? Isn't it called Files now?

        Anyway, it sucks beyond belief now, use the Nemo fork of the old Nautilus. It supports SSH, FTP and such (I really hate using scp through the command line).

    • by armanox ( 826486 )

      Depends on the App. I know some applications have the integration bits where it merges the menu bar with the top bar in GNOME so that it takes up less space. The theming could be a little smaller I agree....

    • by maweki ( 999634 ) on Thursday September 25, 2014 @01:25AM (#47990961) Homepage
      Are you sure oft this is true or is the past just always brighter? http://blogs.gnome.org/aday/20... [gnome.org]
  • by CajunArson ( 465943 ) on Wednesday September 24, 2014 @07:41PM (#47989617) Journal

    Since this is GNOME, does anybody have a link to the official list of features that have been removed from this version?

  • did nobody think to release it on the proper date or just skip that version number? No wonder so many people hate on Gnome

  • Does it at least attempt /a bit/ to protect me from the dangers of the internet?

    http://www.mupuf.org/blog/2014... [mupuf.org]

  • That doesn't sound nearly as intimidating as Release the Kraken! (or even Release the hounds...)

    Just sayin...
  • And the first thing I see when clicking the link is "Weather, redesigned"???

  • ....GNU HURD?
  • by Subm ( 79417 ) on Wednesday September 24, 2014 @09:44PM (#47990267)

    3.14 sounds like a pi-in-the-sky release.

    "Re-worked default theme" sounds like they're just going 'round in circles.

    "New animations" are hardly a sine of great progress, 'cos they sound tangential to real progress, which really hertz.

    I'll wait for 6.28.

  • 2.14 was way better.

  • by advocate_one ( 662832 ) on Thursday September 25, 2014 @01:39AM (#47990979)
    that I won't be able to turn this default behaviour off

    When it is launched without a document being specified, Evince will also show a useful overview of your recent documents.

    everytime a new version of Gnome comes out, you find even more things are forced upon you that you can't change... I got pissed off when the screensaver wouldn't let me change the directory path for my screensaver images that I wanted it to automatically use...

  • It's only on the file manager (that I've found) but you can click OUTSIDE the window and still interact with the window. For example if you have two file-managers close to each other with another window below them both and visible in the gap then you can't click the lower window directly even though you can see it and put your mouse over the visible part of it. All you do is focus one or the other of the file manager windows.
    You can also hold down the windows key and click outside the file manager window an

  • by ponos ( 122721 ) on Thursday September 25, 2014 @03:20AM (#47991307)

    The Gnome environment has a direction. One that does not interest me. Things like "multitouch" are clearly not important to me, but all three users using Gnome on their tablets might care. I am even more surprised to see the new "Weather app" up in the list of exciting new features. The hours I spend daily looking at the weather forecast will now be much more pleasurable.

    Anyway, I really want to like Gnome but don't see anything that matters to me. Linux Mint and the Cinnamon environment seem more suited to my needs and, I suspect, to the needs of the "typical" linux user. In a parallel universe where Apple fans decide to use Linux, Gnome will be there for them.

    • by olau ( 314197 )

      Things like "multitouch" are clearly not important to me, but all three users using Gnome on their tablets might care.

      It's not really intended for tablets, AFAIK the primary target is the touch screens you can buy these days and which some laptops come equipped with. Without some help from the desktop environment and applets, the touch aspect of those screens is more or less completely useless. Maybe you don't care, but the people who buy those screens probably do.

      • by DrXym ( 126579 )
        Multi touch would allow the OS to do stuff like pinch to zoom, rotate, scrolling and other gestures that have become common. I doubt it says anything one way or another about other forms of input. Quite clearly the prevalent form of input will be mouse and keyboard for a long time to come.
  • by jcdr ( 178250 ) on Thursday September 25, 2014 @03:32AM (#47991339)

    Especially when you have a lot of virtual desktops and a lot of windows. I use a fixed array of 8*6 virtual desktop where I statically organize the multiple projects I work on. Very easy to setup with MATE. Same goal impossible to archive with Gnome because the virtual desktops are organized dynamically. With MATE I can switch very quickly to the virtual desktop I want because there position are fixed and my brain can learn a corresponding map of them. I don't even have to think about how to go to the right virtual desktop, it's so easy that it's almost a reflex. No animation make the switch fast and without visual fatigue.

    The whole Gnome3 UI concept look completely ridicule on a 4K screen. It wast all the space so efficiently that it make my new 4K screen look like the old 1080p one. Whit MATE you really enjoy more available space.

    Finally a strongly hate the upper corner hook trick that wast time to randomly move all windows out there in a unpredictable position. It broke the static mapping I have in my brain and distract me from my work. On a 4K screen the MATE the top and bottom tiny bars take almost no place and provides direct access to applications menu and windows list without useless animation that broke the actual layout.

    I don't need a UI for a smartphone on my desktop as I don't need a UI for a desktop on a smartphone !
    Please help MATE to integrate systemd so I can be the default desktop on Debian.

    • I agree the gnome3 dynamic workspaces are annoying, but fortunately there's an option to turn them off. You can turn off the top-left-corner gesture too. I use ctrl-f1 - f8 to switch workspaces, it's nice.

      I suppose you could argue that the defaults are not great for experienced users, but most experienced users would expect to have to customise their desktop a bit, I think.

      • by jcdr ( 178250 )

        I just tried Gnome 3.12.2 from a freshly updated Debian jessie and no, there is still nothing configurable at all on that desktop. This is the big major difference from MATE and XFCE4 where everything is configurable by just a right click on the widget you want to change. On Gnome 3, even after years of complain, there is still absolutely nothing configurable at all.

        So sorry, your claim is false: there is no option to disable dynamic workspaces and there is no option to disable top-left corner gesture. I ha

  • Okay, it was a cool idea to make sometime that works on tablets too, but for a desktop power user Gnome 3 is an utter failure.

    • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

      by kthreadd ( 1558445 )

      Is it a failure, or is it just that you don't like it? A lot of people use Gnome 3 every day on all kinds of desktops and laptops. Yes it's different and if you want Gnome 2 you will have to look at something like Mate or Xfce. But a lot of people use it and like it.

  • by msobkow ( 48369 ) on Thursday September 25, 2014 @04:55AM (#47991539) Homepage Journal

    The comment on "multi-touch" tells me all I need to know about this release: it's targetted at touch screens.

    Not "normal" desktops.

    No wonder Gnome 3 sucks so heinously. It's the Linux version of Windows 8.

    • by DrXym ( 126579 )
      Don't be ridiculous. Supporting a multi touch input device says absolutely nothing of what the experience is like for someone using that way or what the experience is like for someone using a mouse and keyboard.

      As it happens GNOME 3 is perfectly usable for someone with a mouse and keyboard. It's also discoverable, forgiving, easy to use and simple to learn which are the main goals of it.

      Feel free to install Cinnamon or an entirely different desktop if you don't like it.

    • For all the people complaining about GNOME 3.xx design. Do you know the existence of GNOME Classic Mode? You can log into GNOME with an appearance very similar to GNOME 2.x. Check this out: http://worldofgnome.org/gnome-... [worldofgnome.org]
  • I've been complaining for years that the default KDE window manager not only looks ugly but also clashes with the rest of the theme. If they made windows look like plasma widgets, then they would look sleek, and they would look like they were designed to fit with the rest of the theme. But KDE devs seem to have no idea what I'm talking about. How can thing go so right in so many ways and then fall apart in one so conspicuous area?

    On first glance, the new Gnome window decorations actually look pretty good

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