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Georgia State Univ. Art Project Causes 2nd Evacuation & Bomb Squad Call 101

McGruber writes The same Georgia State University art project responsible for Monday's shutdown of Atlanta's Downtown Connector (Interstates 75 & 85), caused authorities in the south Fulton County, Georgia town of Hapeville to evacuate businesses and call in a bomb squad Tuesday.

According to Georgia State University spokesman Don Hale, the devices are pinhole camera being used in a solargraphy project to track the rising and setting of the sun over a three-month period. "Students were instructed to take their cameras home and to place them in locations that would provide interesting scenes with bright sunlight," Hale said. "The locations were selected by the students."

It was up to each of the 18 students in the class to find a spot for their own project, the university said. The university was made aware of the art project Tuesday morning and, through its police department, immediately informed the Atlanta Police Department, Hale said.
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Georgia State Univ. Art Project Causes 2nd Evacuation & Bomb Squad Call

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  • And too funny to watch these people trip all over themselves like Keystone Cops.

  • The cameras were actually there to capture the lulz.
  • welcome to Boston...

    • by TWX ( 665546 )
      As stupid as the Boston thing was, this is even dumber if these 'cameras' are what I think they are.

      If a solar-path pinhole camera is designed right then it has no moving parts once it's assembled and the film is loaded. It literally just lets light in through a pinhole, so it can track bright things like the sun based on where the little bit of light through the pinhole strikes the flim as the planet rotates.

      At least the Boston thing had wires and power. This is literally a box with a hole in it.
      • If this camera is anything like the last one, it looks an awful lot like the sort of outsized firecracker that a teenager with access to a few pounds of blackpowder would make.

  • by jtara ( 133429 ) on Wednesday February 04, 2015 @03:09PM (#48982793)

    "Students were instructed to take their cameras home and to place them in locations that would provide interesting scenes with bright sunlight,"

    What part of "home" did these students not understand?

    Although I think most of us would not think that placing the cameras in a public place for art's sake is some horrible offense, it might be a violation of privacy, and it is certainly not prudent in a terrorism-obsessed world.

    It should have been done with some sort of official approval, and placed with some kind of sign. Perhaps a simple: "What is this? It's part of an art project. For the sake of art, please do not disturb! Go to this website to find out more: [Insert URL here]

    Of course, that would probably take months of rigmarole to get approved.

    I've seen similar signs on weather stations, wildlife projects, "what's happening to the bees" projects, etc. Here around San Diego, we often come across stuff like this along the beach. (Measuring sand erosion, wildlife, etc.)

    • Before some persnickety spelling pundit calls me on it: "suspicious", not "suspicous". And because /. doesn't allow editing posts after they are posted.
    • by TechyImmigrant ( 175943 ) on Wednesday February 04, 2015 @03:16PM (#48982851) Homepage Journal

      It's the disproportionate response that the problem.

      Asking people to label their things with "This is not a bomb" is the equivalent of the evil bit. Completely pointless.

      • by khallow ( 566160 )
        Hi, this is a bomb with the evil bit set to off. So no worries!
      • by jythie ( 914043 )
        Generally what one does when they place sensors or such in public spaces is you include a name and contact number so people can verify the device. Usually works.
        • And how does this prevent a bomber getting a burner phone, leaving a fake name and the burner phone contact number and verifying that they're the fake identity when called?

          Any security procedure needs to be not trivially worked around by the persons the security measure is trying to prevent doing their evil deeds. If you can't pass that test, don't bother and accept that it probably won't happen and a bit of risk is the cost of a free society.

          • And how does this prevent a bomber getting a burner phone, leaving a fake name and the burner phone contact number and verifying that they're the fake identity when called?

            It wouldn't but what it would do is prevent people from panicing for no reason. If a bomber was smart, they would do exactly this
            if they needed to leave a bomb in a public place for a long period of time. But why exactly would a bomber need to do this?
            The bomber really only needs enough time to get to a safe distance.

            For leaving an object in a public place, the steps are 1) ask permission and 2) write your name and number on it. It's been that
            way for years and no, this doesn't leave a giant gap in securi

      • This teacher should have told the students to label their instruments, with contact information, so the police could verify that you're not some disaffected madbomber type person before they blow up your camera.
    • by smooth wombat ( 796938 ) on Wednesday February 04, 2015 @03:45PM (#48983179) Journal
      and placed with some kind of sign.

      They were. The linked story doesn't say it but this one does [cnn.com]. Specifically:

      Photos of other cameras show them attached to trees, fences and windows around the city. Some include notes that identify the soda can as a "Georgia State Art Project." Some instruct passersby to "Please do not take down!"
      • by OzPeter ( 195038 )

        Some include notes that identify the soda can as a "Georgia State Art Project." Some instruct passersby to "Please do not take down!"

        Because only non-bombs have signs that say they are innocuous.

      • Based on the appearance of those signs, the police should have immediately rounded-up all of the five-year-olds in the area.

        Some of them had signs. Some of them didn't. And I doubt anyone was crawling-around under bridges looking for the signs. Of course, police would have seen the signs once they investigated. Or maybe their bomb-sniffing robot might have.

        Did the police over-react? I dunno. You'd have to be there. I wasn't.

        It remains that placing the objects was begging the response. It was stupid.

        If I wer

    • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

      ...not prudent in a terrorism-obsessed world.

      I believe you should remain focused on the obsession and leave the kids alone. Deal with that before you get an ulcer or something. The panicky reaction only gives incentive to do more of the same. Like it or not, it's good entertainment.

      • I've lived in a society that really did have a terrorism obsession, and let me tell you - what you are experiencing today is not it.

        You don't know what it is to be truly obsessed with security until you lived in Northern Ireland in the 1970s and 80s.

        • by asdfj ( 3624547 )
          For a current example of getting the tone of terrorism response very right, look at Israel's airports. Their security screening consists of highly trained psychological profilers asking a series of questions in the customs line, instead of the strip-half-naked-and-funnel-through-these-xray-tubes approach that we have.
          While they also have armed soldiers walking around, the whole process is so much quicker than any American airport's security procedures that it's almost disorienting. Of course the volume/si
    • And where should these students place them if they live in the dorms? Not everyone lives in a house with a back yard when they're in college.
    • What part of "home" did these students not understand?

      Taking something home and using it exclusively at home are two different things. I would never construe someone saying "take something home" to mean that I need to use it there, only that I cannot use it at the place from which I'm asked to remove it.

      Then there's the question if home is even suitable for the assignment. There were criteria for this such as being able to see the sun. Maybe home is an apartment facing south at lower latitudes. But in any case we had plenty of "take home" assignments and "home

    • Although I think most of us would not think that placing the cameras in a public place for art's sake is some horrible offense, it might be a violation of privacy, and it is certainly not prudent in a terrorism-obsessed world.

      Then why the fuck are there all these cameras in public places? And no, I'm not talking about an art project...

  • Comment removed (Score:5, Insightful)

    by account_deleted ( 4530225 ) on Wednesday February 04, 2015 @03:10PM (#48982797)
    Comment removed based on user account deletion
    • Re: (Score:2, Insightful)

      by jklovanc ( 1603149 )

      If every time someone sees a box, or a can, or a light bright sitting on the street we're gong to evacuate a city and lock down schools, then lets cut the "freedom and liberty" crap.

      Exaggerate much? They closed down one street for a short period of time. Get over it.

    • Sorry, 9/11 has nothing to do with this.. as much as the "watershed moment of our generation" should be blamed for.. treating a potential explosive device like this is SOP for every bomb squad.. ever... This one didn't look exactly like the other one, it had 2 pipes strapped to it with wires sticking out of it.

      but hey, let's stick to the fear answer. it's working great so far.

      • by OzPeter ( 195038 ) on Wednesday February 04, 2015 @03:35PM (#48983075)

        This one didn't look exactly like the other one, it had 2 pipes strapped to it with wires sticking out of it.

        but hey, let's stick to the fear answer. it's working great so far.

        Bzzz.. Wrong. The camera did not have 2 pipes strapped to it, with wires sticking out. The camera was strapped to two metal conduits that were conveniently poking out of the bridge itself and were the remains of where something like a light pole had been removed. You can see all of this in the image in TFA.

        But really? Pipes with wires coming out of them as being indicative of a bomb is as bad a hollywood device as Adam West running around with a black object with "Bomb" painted on the side.

        • by kogut ( 1133781 )

          Pipes with wires coming out of them as being indicative of a bomb is as bad a hollywood device as Adam West running around with a black object with "Bomb" painted on the side.

          Yet that's exactly what a lot of actual IEDs look like.

    • by jythie ( 914043 )
      Look at the bright side, if they had been in Boston instead the students would have been arrested for placing 'hoax devices' and have police talking about how lucky the people were that they were not simply shot.
    • Prohibit activities like art projects unless they are blessed by the State and Ministry. Geez, I miss 20th century America.
  • well... (Score:4, Insightful)

    by chronoglass ( 1353185 ) on Wednesday February 04, 2015 @03:13PM (#48982833)

    my first thought was, after they knew about the first one.. having a second cause problems is a bit stupid.. then of course they leave out that this second student strapped two metal pipes to the side with wires sticking out of em "for stability".. and I realize just how stupid people really can be..

    yeah I made this art project that looks exactly like a uhaul truck and "parked" it in front of a federal building in oklahoma.. seriously, why'd you arrest me?!

  • by turkeydance ( 1266624 ) on Wednesday February 04, 2015 @03:13PM (#48982835)
    "...the device, in addition to having a 12-ounce can wrapped in duct tape, also included two ¾-inch steel pipes with four electrical wires protruding from the top."
    • by OzPeter ( 195038 ) on Wednesday February 04, 2015 @03:29PM (#48983009)

      "...the device, in addition to having a 12-ounce can wrapped in duct tape, also included two ¾-inch steel pipes with four electrical wires protruding from the top."

      From looking at the picture in TFA, it looks like the pinhole camera was duct-taped to the remains of a light pole on the bridge. You can make out an old baseplate, and the 3/4 inch steel pipes are just the conduit cemented into the bridge itself in order to protect the wires - that were cut off and left when the light was removed.

      You can see this sort of shit anywhere there is decaying infrastructure, as it takes more money to properly clean up after something is removed.

      • From looking at the picture in TFA, it looks like the pinhole camera was duct-taped to the remains of a light pole on the bridge. You can make out an old baseplate, and the 3/4 inch steel pipes are just the conduit cemented into the bridge itself in order to protect the wires - that were cut off and left when the light was removed. You can see this sort of shit anywhere there is decaying infrastructure, as it takes more money to properly clean up after something is removed.

        What, you expect us to spend mo

  • ...I was glad that I took MARTA that day!
  • by Anonymous Coward

    How can a university have the audacity to assign students the project of photographing such critical infrastructure like the Sun? Surely, federal or state laws prohibit photographing things like nuclear power plants, dams, electrical distribution nodes, etc. and would apply in this case? If everyone is allowed to do what they want with the Sun and there are no regulations or policies in place to determine how the Sun is used, viewed or stared directly at, how will we ever win the Global War On (or Of) Terro

  • by OzPeter ( 195038 ) on Wednesday February 04, 2015 @03:24PM (#48982945)

    The revised edition now has a section on how to cause mass panic and bring an entire city to a standstill. It reads something like this:

    Go to Walmart
    Buy a 12 pack of Coke and a role of duct tape
    Drink the coke
    Duct tape the empty cans to a series of public infrastructures (EG all the bridges surrounding a specific area)
    Call 911 and report seeing more than one suspicious objects.

    Bonus marks
        1) scrawl some arabic looking words to the outside of each installation
        2) Fill the cans with talcum powder

    This should be good for paralyzing a city for at least a complete day

    • Get charged with filling false police reports.
      Get sued for the costs incurred by those false reports.

      • by OzPeter ( 195038 )

        Get charged with filling false police reports.
        Get sued for the costs incurred by those false reports.

        What sort of terrorist are you if you don't have an exit strategy that avoids being identified by the authorities?

        And if you are a terrorist, then false police reports and being sued are the least of your worries.

        • What sort of terrorist are you if you don't have an exit strategy that avoids being identified by the authorities?

          Wait ... isn't the "exit strategy" dying, becoming a martyr, and collecting your 72 virgins?

  • Losers:

    - GoPro

    - Duck Tape

    - Any hope for the future of handwriting, or even hand-printing

    • - Pinhole camera + film

      - Duct tape

      - Novel way of looking at the world that will impact how they approach the rest of their life (especially with two so far being blown up as threats).

  • Unless the rest of the students were less imaginative and kept their cameras on private property.

  • Just think what would have to happen if everyone were to actually do what the idiot security thespians want us to do and "if we see something, say something." Every discarded tin can along a roadway, every ungarded box sitting on the grass. Choke them to death on their own system.

    Make it a game. How many suspicious packages can YOU call in today?

    "Oh, no ma'am. I'm not calling in a bomb threat. I thought I saw a suspicious package."

  • Those are just the hidden packages!

  • Outside the window near me I can see the Lyndt store in Sydney that just yesterday has started to be repaired from the hostage killing by a nutjob. In crowded places, near infrastructure, IEDs (whether E means Educational, Entertaining or Explosive) are no longer an option. I'm certain the residents of Boston and Atlanta largely agree.

  • Regardless of whether you think police are overreacting, at this point it seems like it would be wise for the school to tell their students either to collect their boxes or contact the police in the jurisdiction where they placed them to let them know where they are and what they look like (at which point the cops would probably tell them to get rid of them). Seems like having to collect them and place them somewhere else would be better than getting your project blown up.

  • by wisnoskij ( 1206448 ) on Wednesday February 04, 2015 @06:13PM (#48984587) Homepage
    How does a pin-hole camera even look like a bomb? It should not even be close to big enough to be a worry. You need something like like the size of a mid sized tablet, minimum to have any decent explosive power. Think of a bullet, it has about the power of a punch, and is far bigger that most cameras nowadays. Saying that, I have since seen that camera's they have used, and they really really do look like bombs. with big enough payloads to make quite a dent.
  • The Centennial Olympic Park bombing was a terrorist bomb attack on the Centennial Olympic Park in Atlanta, Georgia, on July 27 during the 1996 Summer Olympics. The blast claimed 1 life and injured 111 people, while another person died of a heart attack. It was the first of four bombings committed by Eric Robert Rudolph.

    Centennial Olympic Park bombing [wikipedia.org]

    The truth is that bags, parcels, jugs, cans, and such which don't look quite look quite right or don't seem to belong here are immediately and rightfully suspect.

    Second guessing the 911 caller is a waste of time.

    What the geek needs to do is start thinking about how his toys, gadgets, hoaxes, stunts and science projects out-of-doors will be perceived by others ---

    who won't be so quick to assume that a real life bomber thinks like a geek and plays by his rules.

    • A single data point doesn't turn an irrational fear into a rational, respectable one. We can still demand more sense and an actual understanding of the risks from the authorities, instead of a fear or public panic based one. As many have pointed out, more people die on average per hour from vehicular accidents in America than have died from terrorism since 2001-09-11. I know we aren't ever going to get a proportional response to such things from authorities, media, or the public, but is being at most within
  • the Mooninite thing in Boston several years ago. I see that people and cops haven't evolved since then and still regularly report items that are normal as suspicious and the cops dutifully rush in and blow them up.
    • Evolved since then? If anything we've devolved, and shall continue to do so. Fear-based policy and actions have a way of reinforcing themselves.
    • by hey! ( 33014 )

      It'd help if people put their name and telephone number on their hack's chassis.

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