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Cuba Uses Big Data To Help Tourism, But Their Networks Lack Capacity 60

dkatana writes: The Cuban government is very active in reshaping the country's industry, not only focusing on leisure and cultural tourism. The biggest challenge, however, is the quality of Internet connections. Cuba's global ranking for Internet speed is 196 out of 200, averaging 1.6 Mbps, just ahead of Guinea, Gambia, Equatorial Guinea, and Niger. Another thing that Cuba lacks: free movement of currency, as reader lpress points out: Cuba has two paper currencies — the Peso and the Convertible Peso or CUC. CUCs are worth about $1 and Pesos, which are used for government salaries, are worth about $.04. But, what about Bitcoin? The first Cuban Bitcoin transaction is history. Will Bitcoin be used by Cubans and Americans to sell goods and services without the knowledge of their governments? Cuban offshore developers might be the first to use Bitcoin.
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Cuba Uses Big Data To Help Tourism, But Their Networks Lack Capacity

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  • Room for Growth? (Score:4, Insightful)

    by nucrash ( 549705 ) on Sunday August 09, 2015 @06:43PM (#50281459)

    While the US is just now starting to establish ties with this country again, I think that we have a pretty good chance at setting up several shops and improving the connectivity in this country. This could be a giant boom to the industry which we could so greatly use.

    • by SQL Error ( 16383 ) on Monday August 10, 2015 @05:58AM (#50283233)

      It's still a communist dictatorship. Nothing's going to improve until that changes.

      • And it'll probably change dramatically when Fidel Castro dies.

        I asked a friend how long it would be from the death of Fidel Castro to Cuba getting a Major League Baseball team.

        He said it depends on the timing. If it's before the Superbowl, it will be that year. Otherwise, the following year.

        He was at least 58% serious, I think. No less than 33%, for sure.

        We can expect a sudden burst of Perestroika, if not absolute Wall-smashing, once the old man dies.

  • provide an island nation it's temporary access.
  • by Baron_Yam ( 643147 ) on Sunday August 09, 2015 @07:15PM (#50281593)

    Will the cryptoloons and techno-anarchists ever give up trying to push their awful solution everywhere and anywhere in hopes of a price bump?

    7 transactions per second, costs more the traditions methods, no consumer protections, easy to get ripped off, impossible to use securely.

    Just let it die, already, the experiment failed.

    • Will the cryptoloons and techno-anarchists ever give up trying to push their awful solution everywhere and anywhere in hopes of a price bump?

      No. Completely mechanizing currency is attractive, because removing the human element supposedly makes it immune to corruption. Also, Bitcoin is modeled after the gold standard which happens to be fashionable right now, along with anarcho-capitalism in general. Dunno what happens when the continuing economic tailspin breaks that spell, but assuming a total collapse is

      • >Consumer protections are independent of the payment method

        Lie. You can burn Bitcoin, accidentally or on purpose, and it's irreversible. With other electronic methods you can't, and with physical cash there are circumstances under which the money will be replaced.

        >Also, the only "traditional method" cheaper than Bitcoin transfer is handing someone cash in person

        Lie. Bitcoin has transaction fees, and many informal studies done (when done by non-Bitcoiners) show it can't compete with the evil Western Un

        • Lie. Bitcoin has transaction fees, and many informal studies done (when done by non-Bitcoiners) show it can't compete with the evil Western Union, never mind a normal credit card for day to day transactions. The case studies where the work is shown, and you can check the numbers yourself. The kind you never see Bitcoiners producing when trying to prove their case.

          Holy hell, you've never used Western Union in your life or you would know they're the biggest rip-off on the whole planet, their fees are extreme.

  • by tlambert ( 566799 ) on Sunday August 09, 2015 @07:18PM (#50281605)

    It's funny they cite Ookla’s Net Index, given that the site has been dead since last week (take down August 4th, but not updated for a while before that), and it relies on statistics gathered by their "Internet Speed Test" site, which is not going to be accurate for Cuba, since it relies on "nearby" central nodes for the testing.

    They have a peering connection via optical fiber to Venezuela (restricted), and a relatively slow link to Sprint in the U.S., which has to be the source of the Ookla numbers for them.

  • by Anonymous Coward

    I would accept dramatically slower internet in exchange for the best healthcare system.

    • by Trepidity ( 597 )

      Move to Soviet Nordland and you can have both good healthcare and fast internet. :) No sun, though.

  • "Only" 1.6 Mbps? (Score:4, Insightful)

    by Kjella ( 173770 ) on Sunday August 09, 2015 @07:41PM (#50281709) Homepage

    Just checked when we passed 1.6 Mbps average here in Norway - that was around 2005-2006. So one of the poorest connected countries in the world is just as good off as we were ten years ago. So you probably don't want to use YouTube and Netflix much, but seriously.... there's no problem downloading a Linux ISO or whatever else you want over a >1 Mbps line if you got a few hours.

    • 1.6Mbps is enough to watch a low-quality stream on Youtube. You need about 5 or 6 for 1080p. When my 6 Mbps connection is actually providing that (which it only does early in the morning, I'm lucky to see 4 at this time of day) I can watch 1080p content on YT. Netflix is actually a little less bandwidth-hungry. You can watch 480p at around only 2 Mbps, maybe less.

    • by garcia ( 6573 )

      I have a 1.3mbit connection at my lake home and Netflix and Amazon work incredibly well. Believe me, I was absolutely shocked it worked at all, let alone still looking "ok" on a 720p TV.

    • Just so you understand: that's probably the speed going into the country. It sure as hell isn't what people are getting, because for the most part people don't have it, because the idea of having something like a computer is pretty uncommon.

      That's not an "average" by any stretch. It's the best they can do for a limited number of places.

      The average Cuban lives in quite a bit of poverty, doesn't have the internet coming into their home, likely doesn't have a phone, lives in what we'd call some pretty terri

      • by KGIII ( 973947 )

        When I last went to Cuba (about two years ago) I was surprised at the number of compute devices. There is an underground sneakernet as well - they take a flashdrive and share its content with all sorts of people. I believe they were selling or renting the content or the device. I am not sure where they got the content but I know some hotels and some universities have internet access.

        My hotel did not have internet and my cell phone did not do a damned thing except eat battery power and play what content I ha

    • It's the bandwidth for the entire countries' upstream link to the rest of the world. Which, in incorrectly-rounded-off numbers, is equal to exactly one T1 line [wikipedia.org].

  • by manu0601 ( 2221348 ) on Sunday August 09, 2015 @08:18PM (#50281861)

    Free movement of currency means speculators can attack your currency. A country can deal with it if it has big change reserves, just like Russia a few months ago. I do not have hard data on Cuba, but I do not see how they could hold hundreds of US$ billions in their central bank, given that they have been embargoed for decades.

    Therefore I am not sure free movement of currency is what Cuba needs right now.

  • by westlake ( 615356 ) on Sunday August 09, 2015 @08:32PM (#50281903)

    Will Bitcoin be used by Cubans and Americans to sell goods and services without the knowledge of their governments? Cuban offshore developers might be the first to use Bitcoin.

    Three guesses and the second two don't count.

    "Which foreign currency is in common use throughout the Caribbean and frequently adopted or accepted as legal tender? "

    Currency substitution: Anchor currencies: US Dollar [wikipedia.org]

    Now a harder one:

    "If prosecuted for an economic crime with $100 million in assets at stake, would you prefer to be tried and sentenced in Cuba or the United States?"

    Cuba sentences Canadian CEO to fifteen years on financial charges [reuters.com]

  • Cuba: beware the "Colour Revolution".

    AKA covert United States foreign regime change actions via endorsed internal uprisings and popular movements.
  • Every other article: complaints about how websites are bloated and online video is mostly bullshit.

    This article: OMG 1.5Mbps isn't enough to watch videos online!1!1!! lollololol commies!

  • Uh, I believe they use it already.
    There was a movie about one of them, particularly successful, entered the canon of classics. The title was "Scarface".

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