Contiki 3.0 Released, Retains Support For Apple II, C64 44
An anonymous reader writes that on Wednesday the Contiki team announced the release of Contiki 3.0, the latest version of the open source IoT operating system. The 3.0 release is a huge step up from the 2.x branch and brings support for new and exciting hardware, a set of new network protocols, a bunch of improvements in the low-power mesh networking protocols, along with a large number of general stability improvements. And, yes, the system still runs on the Commodore 64/128, Apple II, Atari.
IoT (Score:2)
Oh dear... is "IoT" already so ubiquitous that it doesn't need expanding any more?
(Internet of Things, for the probably substantial number of people who won't know it at a glance)
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I prefer "Internet (Direct Interaction) of Things".
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Version 1 was ported to VIC-20 (and worse), albeit without networking, so no "Internet of Anything": http://hitmen.c02.at/html/tool... [c02.at]
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Agree. The Vic-20 was underpowered (5K RAM and only 3.5K was usable), but it was a great bargain at the time. I had the 16K RAMpack expansion, so that definitely made the computer a lot more usable and fun to use. :-) I eventually got a C-64, but the Vic-20 was my first computer and I would never call it a toy... it taught me too much. I even still own it to this day and it still works.
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There was a 64K RAMpack for the VIC-20, so if you used that, you wouldn't have run out of RAM. ;-)
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There was a 64K RAMpack for the VIC-20, so if you used that, you wouldn't have run out of RAM. ;-)
That couldn't possibly have worked for BASIC programs, as the parent was talking about. The total addressable space of the 6502 was only 64K, so you couldn't have 64K of RAM and the BASIC interpreter and the KERNAL (not to mention e.g. video RAM etc.) at the same time.
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Ever heard the word "bank switching"? :D -- at least for the C-64 there were memory expansions with 512K and more
Of course I know about bank switching. But in order to run a BASIC program, the BASIC interpreter (and probably the KERNAL) needs to be switched in, so that's 16K you can't use for a BASIC program no matter what.
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your 7th grade apple ][ instruction is a fucking moron.
Apple zealots have been ever thus.
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Funny but a friend of mine called the Apple II a toy but then he had a PDP-11.
Actually the AppleII was a better computer than the Vic-20 but it also cost many times as much.
Frankly I loved all the computers of the late 70s early 80s. So many new ideas and so many systems and all of them you could learn inside and out except for the Ti-99.
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Yeah, me too. All of them were very distinctive, with their own unique strengths and weaknesses. Compatibility? We don' need no steenkin' compatibility!
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And so many CPUs 8080, 8085, Z80, 6809, 6502, 68000, 8088,8086, TI TMS 9900, NS-32016 and goodness knows what else.
Contiki is 12 years old (Score:2)
Contiki has been around since well before [wikipedia.org] the name "IoT" existed.
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Since you're complaining about the term not being explained instead of asking what it means, I'd say it's ubiquitous.
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Since you're complaining about the term not being explained instead of asking what it means, I'd say it's ubiquitous.
What, it's ubiquitous because I know what it means? I had no idea I was the Arbiter of Ubiquity.
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Nobody else asked either, they were just agreeing that it should have been explained.
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Since you're complaining about the term not being explained instead of asking what it means, I'd say it's ubiquitous.
What, it's ubiquitous because I know what it means? I had no idea I was the Arbiter of Ubiquity.
Only the true Messiah denies his divinity!
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I'm not the Messiah, I'm a...
Well, the less said about that the better.
Time to shine (Score:3)
Good stuff. Better than an oversized OS draining your power and sucking performance out of constrained hardware. Maybe it's finally Contiki's time to shine.
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The Year of Contiki on the Desktop has arrived!
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The Year of Contiki on the Desktop has arrived!
I still have problems getting audio to work, plus you can't get printer drivers for my 1985 HP Laserjet 1.19L. Also, DVD playback doesn't work out of the box.
really would like it to work with thread... (Score:2)
Its very cool but I wonder how it will work with thread http://threadgroup.org/Downloads.aspx
it would be nice if the mesh included nest and other thread hardware
Sadly it doesnt fix the problems... (Score:5, Informative)
IOT is a fail because of manufacturers.
For example, ZigBee connected light bulbs, GE Link, Cree Connected, and Phillips Hue all use their OWN modified protocol. First the use the ZLL protocol instead of the ZHA that they should be using, then they refuse to repeat signals for other brands. So you have some cheap Cree bulbs in entryways and hallways, but have the expensive white color temperature bulbs for elsewhere... Oh they don't mesh, sorry. They also don't mesh with your other devices so you have a horribly broken and fractured mess that barely works.
IoT is an epic fail because we don't have a group of people going to different manufacturers with a sack of rocks and beating the shit out of executives and head engineers. I blame ZigBee and Z-Wave for not forcing companies at gunpoint to follow a freaking standard, but the engineers and executives made the decision to be assholes and intentionally be incompatible.
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Ummm... Don't buy stuff that doesn't do standards?
So what do you buy if zero of the brands in the store near you do standards? Wait until you have $35 of other stuff and then wait another week or two for Super Saver Shipping?
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Ummm... Don't buy stuff that doesn't do standards?
So what do you buy if zero of the brands in the store near you do standards? Wait until you have $35 of other stuff and then wait another week or two for Super Saver Shipping?
Um...yeah, that's exactly what you do. Aside from the cost of gas and sales tax probably eating your savings on shipping, "gotta have it now" is a privilege for which you have to pay the piper...in this case, by getting crappy kit.
Besides which, if you planned your deployment thoroughly, instead of buying it piecemeal, you'd probably be over the $35 threshold anyway.
Did someone just admit to tax evasion? (Score:1)
Aside from the cost of gas and sales tax probably eating your savings on shipping
Gas perhaps, unless it's a trip you already made for another reason. Sales tax no, unless you're ordering from a dealer that has no nexus in your state and committing tax evasion in the use tax field of your tax return.
Besides which, if you planned your deployment thoroughly, instead of buying it piecemeal, you'd probably be over the $35 threshold anyway.
"Planning? In my home?" It's less likely than you think. [knowyourmeme.com]
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Even with a standards body (zwave) it's hard to insure things work cross manufacture. Every company it trying to be the one and only solution and most are trying to get ya to pay them 10 bucks a month forever to use their cloud to control what you own.
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Well, the rest of his house is underground.