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Google Donates €1 Million To Help Refugees In Need 320

Mark Wilson writes: The on-going refugee crisis in Europe, Africa, and the Middle East has grabbed hearts and headlines around the world. As European governments argue over who should take in the thousands of desperate people, European citizens have criticized the speed and scale of the help offered, whilst simultaneously donating money, food, and equipment to help those in desperate need. Now Google has stepped in, offering €1 million ($1.1 million) to the organizations providing help to refugees. In addition to this, Google.org (the branch of the company 'using innovation to tackle some of the world's biggest challenges') is setting up a page to make it easier for people to make donations, and says that it will match any money donated by Google users.
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Google Donates €1 Million To Help Refugees In Need

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  • That's nice (Score:4, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday September 06, 2015 @08:36AM (#50466657)

    but it's a drop in the bucket of resources needed for this migration. What I'm wondering is, where's the U.S pledge to take in migrants? After all, it's the U.S who is dropping bombs and seeding weapons into the regions these migrants are fleeing from. Or maybe they're just not interested because you can't have any cherry-picking under these circumstances?

    • Re:That's nice (Score:5, Insightful)

      by WORLOK ( 7690 ) on Sunday September 06, 2015 @08:40AM (#50466675)

      Where is the Saudi and other muslim duty to take in their islamic brethren?

      • by Rei ( 128717 )

        Absent, clearly.

        Now are you saying that the west should strive to be moral equals of middle eastern despots?

    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      This comic claims that climate change is one of the triggers (combined with the authoritarian regime, of course):
      https://www.upworthy.com/tryin... [upworthy.com]

      The UN has warned for years that climate change will lead to water and food shortages, and therefore political instabilities. This seems to be the first clear example, with probably many to follow as deserts expand.

      • Overpopulation is depleting resources far faster than climate change.

        PS. yes, there's plenty for plenty more people ... but not correctly distributed among the people, which you can't redistribute without destroying civilization.

        • Overpopulation is depleting resources far faster than climate change.

          AFAIK there's no region on Earth currently over its carrying capacity with the sole exception of Antarctica, which has around 5,000 people total.

          PS. yes, there's plenty for plenty more people ... but not correctly distributed among the people, which you can't redistribute without destroying civilization.

          That's a rather extraordinary assertion, especially in the context of deciding over other people's life and death. Please give some concr

          • I meant you can't redistribute the people to where the resources are without destroying civilizations (and productivity with it). You can obviously redistribute the resources as long as there is political will ... but that will can disappear and then you have countries with unsustainable populations and no food aid.

            • Carrying capacity of land when farmed by well equipped, well educated farmers with a plentiful supply of oil and chemicals supplying a vegetarian diet is not exactly the same as the practical carrying capacity of land. Throw in economic disparity and meat consumption, throw in the fragility of international supply chains, throw in brain drain, white flight and dispossession and the carrying capacity can quickly go to complete and utter shit.

      • Re:That's nice (Score:5, Insightful)

        by thegarbz ( 1787294 ) on Sunday September 06, 2015 @10:48AM (#50467167)

        Yes climate change is what is making people flee to Germany. Not Turkey, Greece, Macedonia, Kosovo, Serbia, Hungry, Slovakia, or the Czech Republic, but Germany (give or take a country depending on the path to German). Clearly Germany is the only place left in the world with food and water. This is all about climate change and they couldn't possible get food, water, or even a life free from war in any of the other countries they are passing through on the way to Germany. This has nothing to do with the almighty Euro at all.

      • Syria didn't have a problem with water until the oil dried up. The Middle East is trading water for oil and is fairly good at it. A decade ago the oil exports in Syria started tumbling and so followed it's food/water supply and then it's government as more pressure came from other groups to take the remaining oil fields.

        Global warming is not a problem as long as you can afford fixing it (the Dutch have been submerged for over a century). But when people's livelihoods get threatened they'll take matters in t

    • by Rei ( 128717 )

      I know it's common to blame the US for everything - and I'm generally no big fan myself. But the US just hasn't been a big player in this thing up until recently. And their local "dog in the game", the FSA, hasn't exactly had the largesse showered down on them. Here's a rough timeline:

      March 2011: Protests start
      July 2011: FSA forms
      October 2011: Turkey lets the FSA operate a command headquarters on its side of the border.
      April 2012: Reporters covering describe the FSA as flush with well trained soldiers, but

      • Re:That's nice (Score:4, Informative)

        by dunkelfalke ( 91624 ) on Sunday September 06, 2015 @11:19AM (#50467297)

        The second I in ISIS stands for Iraq. Which is a country that has been invaded by the USA and had its secular government destroyed.
        So yep, they are to blame.

        • by Rei ( 128717 )

          Daesh and al-Nusra were tiny entities until the Syrian civil war - it's the Syria chaos that allowed them to flourish, and eventually conquer chunks of Iraq with forces armed and trained in Syria. And part of the reason that they flourished in Syria was because they were far better armed than their secular competition.

          That said, the Maliki government too most definitely contributed to helping Daesh gain membership, he did a bang-up job of alienating Iraq's Sunni population. And Maliki would never have been

          • Maliki government, Turkish government, Saudi Arabian government ... extremist Sunni militias rarely have to look very hard for sponsors.

    • Re:That's nice (Score:5, Informative)

      by JaredOfEuropa ( 526365 ) on Sunday September 06, 2015 @10:47AM (#50467165) Journal
      The vast majority of people currently flocking to Europe are not refugees from the war, but emigrants with economic motives. Throwing money at them is only going to encourage even more of them to make the (often dangerous) trek.

      Refugees in Greece arrive with money and iPhones, checking with friends on the best places to go. Many arrive in Greece, Italy and Hungary, but very few stay in those countries even though they are safe there. They prefer Germany, Sweden and the UK, where the welcome is much warmer and comes with a house, medical care, a generous stipend, and the possibility of work. In Belgium, they see a large influx of young males (mostly from Iraq), all with identical rehearsed story about Syria and of course no papers to prove their identity. A great example is the story behind little Aylan, made famous by that heart-wrenching picture showing him washed ashore on a beach in Turkey. As it turns out, his family was already living in prefect safety in Istanbul for a few years, after fleeying the troubles in Syria. The father had tried to get asylum status in Canada (he has a relative there) but was denied. He then decided to try Europe, possibly because here he'd get the $14k in dental work he needed for free. He loaded his family in a crappy little boat and tried the crossing, which failed terribly as we know. The father lived, and is now back in Syria of all places to bury his family. This is a great tragedy, but it was brought on not by the war in Syria, not by ISIS, not by cold-hearted Europeans denying such people refuge, not by ruthless human trafficers, but by the man's own god-damned stupidity.

      We in Europe (the vast majority of the people, not the politicians) do not want these people here. We'll take real refugees and care for them as best we can, but there are limits to what we can take. The social fabric in Sweden, Germany, France and other countries is already under tremendous strain, despite desperate attempts by media and government to paint a rosy picture. Should we do nothing? Of course not. One of the things we can do for example is to help Turkey manage the vast influx of refugees, help set them up in decent camps, and ensure that they stay there. Another thing we can do is what Australia does: tow these immigrants back from where they came, and destroy the boats. But the one thing we should be doing is to make it crystal clear: if you are not a real refugee, there is no future for you here.
      • Re:That's nice (Score:5, Insightful)

        by Rei ( 128717 ) on Sunday September 06, 2015 @12:17PM (#50467611) Homepage

        People who complain about people from other countries having cell phones and stuff like that have a strange concept of what life is like in poorer countries, As if everyone either lives like they do in America, or they're a mud farmer who sleeps in the dirt every night.

        Travel to a poorer country some time and see how people live. You still find things like smartphones, TVs, washing machines, etc. They're generally lower quality or older, but most definitely present. You find a lower average number of "modern conveniences" per household, but that number is certainly not "zero". Buildings aren't built to as high of standards, but they're still fine for getting a night's sleep. People still have cars, even if the number per capita is lower and they average older/cheaper models. People in countries with ~$5k/yr per-capita GDP are not mud farmers. And that's exactly what Syria's per-capita income was before the civil war.

        Different refugees have had different levels of luck. Some have lost everything they had, such as shells hitting their house. Others are simply in areas about to be overrun, but still have their possessions. When a person flees, they sell everything they can't take with them, and take with whatever they can. In a country where so much has been destroyed, there's always a market for replacement possessions - as well as a market for opportunistic groups to get goods for cheap. The money from selling whatever they couldn't take with becomes their funds for their trip. Small, important things like phones are one of the least likely things a person would sell. The biggest worry of a fleeing family is of becoming separated. The ability to get information is also critical. We live in a modern era.

      • Re: (Score:2, Insightful)

        by Anonymous Coward

        We in Europe (the vast majority of the people, not the politicians) do not want these people here.

        Please speak for yourself.

        • Re: (Score:2, Interesting)

          by Anonymous Coward

          We in Europe (the vast majority of the people, not the politicians) do not want these people here.

          Please speak for yourself.

          He is, and, for better or worse, he's also speaking for a lot more people than you'll probably be comfortable admitting feel the same way as he does.

          A straw poll on Friday at my place of work, one person in thirty was pro taking these people in, so there's a wee bit of a difference betwixt what I'm hearing from people at work and on the street, and what I'm being fed by the media and the politicians.

          (For the record, I wouldn't be here if my country of origin hadn't taken in my Huguenot ancestors)

  • by Anonymous Coward

    Google yearly revenue is about 55 billion dollars
    Google yearly profit is about 12 billion

    so, by my math, 1 million in charity is less then, roughly, doing the math in my head, 6 hours profit ??? and it is probably tax deductible ?
    and they are getting lits of great PR like this slashvertisement ????

    another way to look at this would be to take the total salary of the top 100 google employees and ask what % of that google does in charity

    • another way to look at this would be to take the total salary of the top 100 google employees and ask what % of that google does in charity

      What percentage of your money goes to charity? Just curious.

      Mainly this article is on Slashdot because it is an important world event......Google just gives it a tech angle (and I for one like world events with tech angles appearing on Slashdot).

    • Of course, this is the Googly equivalent of my annual tip for the paperboy... barely a rounding error.

      Nonetheless, a small gift from a big name will cause eyes to fall on the problem.

      Mix enough publicity, compassion, & a little guilt; couldn't hurt the cause.

  • by Tokolosh ( 1256448 ) on Sunday September 06, 2015 @10:00AM (#50466935)

    Blanket the Middle East with free, open and ubiquitous internet, by every practical means, together with Tor. These people have been living in the dark too long.

    Then put a fence around the place and let them settle their own differences.

    • If Google provides the internet through satellites they won't even need Tor.

      Developing and air dropping a couple million Young Boy's/Lady's Illustrated Primers into the Middle East, now that would be useful ... not very politically correct of course.

    • It's not PC but the problem is that most of the world has inferior cultures compared to the U.S. and Western Europe. In addition we are vastly outnumbered. There is no way to take in all of the people that need help and keep our culture. One of the reasons the U.S. was able to take in so many people in the 1800's was because we didn't have a welfare state and they were European and had similar cultures and ethics and we much more republican (as in the rule of law) and less democratic (as in rule of the majo

  • by CanEHdian ( 1098955 ) on Sunday September 06, 2015 @10:32AM (#50467113)
    So what do we have to make out of this? [liveleak.com] These people are safe in Hungary.
  • by Begemot ( 38841 ) on Sunday September 06, 2015 @10:53AM (#50467193)

    Solve the root of the problem, spend this money on education in the ME instead. Given a limited budget, spending it on the current refugee problem, knowing full well that bigger suffering is just around the corner, is counter-productive.

  • So them giving 1 million euros is about proportionate to me giving 1 dollar to help refugees.

    Plus they get useful good PR from this, unlike me.

    So this isn't especially impressive.

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