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Neocities Becomes the First Major Site To Implement the Distributed Web 51

An anonymous reader writes: HTTP has served us well for a long time, but will we continue to use HTTP forever? Since Brewster Kahle called for a distributed web, more people have been experimenting with what is being called the Permanent Web: Web sites that can be federated instantly, and served from trustless peers. Popular web hosting site Neocities has announced that they are the first major site to implement IPFS, which is the leading distributed web protocol, and they published the announcement using IPFS itself.
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Neocities Becomes the First Major Site To Implement the Distributed Web

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  • by Anonymous Coward

    I remember when this was called NNTP...

    • by Anonymous Coward

      I just viewed https://ipfs.io/ and it has a section that I think is rife with buzzwords. I've emphasized the ones I can see:

      How it works

      The InterPlanetary File System (IPFS) is a peer-to-peer distributed file system that seeks to connect all computing devices with the same system of files. In some ways, IPFS is similar to the Web, but IPFS could be seen as a single BitTorrent swarm, exchanging objects within one Git repository. In other words, IPFS provides a high throughput content-addressed block storage

      • Holy crap....if you played "Buzzword Bingo" with that paragraph, everyone in the Western Hemisphere would be drunk.

        • by pspahn ( 1175617 )

          I felt like I was reading a description for a VX Module.

          Shit, maybe I was, because I'm pretty sure VX Modules can be amalgamated to handle distributed tasks without concurrency constraints.

          • I felt like I was reading a description for a VX Module.

            Even a VX Module has a clearer distributed mode interface description than that.

            Shit, maybe I was, because I'm pretty sure VX Modules can be amalgamated to handle distributed tasks without concurrency constraints.

            I'm waiting for some intrepid soul to write a VX Module to manage systemd interactivity with the Ring 0 processes. Just imagine the performance scalability impact in holistically-generated vertical markets.

    • by cruff ( 171569 )
      Heh, I've been reading "net news" since about 1983-ish. Many of the news groups I've been following over the years have dwindled off to almost nothing or nothing at all, some just quite recently. I remember downloading one of the early versions of Perl with a news reader.
  • Until I visited https://ipfs.io/docs/install/ [ipfs.io] and got a 502 Bad Gateway response.
  • by U2xhc2hkb3QgU3Vja3M ( 4212163 ) on Tuesday September 08, 2015 @05:34PM (#50482797)
    If Slashdot taught me anything about acronyms, surely IPFS means "Internet Protocol First Shooter".
  • by U2xhc2hkb3QgU3Vja3M ( 4212163 ) on Tuesday September 08, 2015 @05:36PM (#50482803)

    InterPlanetary File System

    There, I did part of Soulskill's job. Where's my check?

    • Is your username an IPFS peer id?

      • by Quirkz ( 1206400 )

        His username is actually also his password hash, and his password hash is his username. It's like the circle of life.

    • InterPlanetary File System

      There, I did part of Soulskill's job. Where's my check?

      You tight bastard.

      You're gone to the restroom every time there's a check to be picked up.

  • that a certain amount of story-lag is to be expected on slashdot... but c'mon - twenty years?!
    http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Beverly+Hills+Internet,+builder+of+interactive+cyber+cities,+launches...-a017190114 [thefreelibrary.com]

  • by Anonymous Coward

    Um, what?

  • Freenet? (Score:2, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Coward

    How is this different from Freenet? (Which has existed for over 15 years!)

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freenet [wikipedia.org]

    • Freenet includes a lot of privacy measures. This comes with a severe performance cost, so it's slow and painful to use.

  • by Dusthead Jr. ( 937949 ) on Tuesday September 08, 2015 @06:11PM (#50482971)
    For a second i thought they were bringing GeoCities back.
    • by Anonymous Coward

      Looking at the sites, I think they have...

    • by Tablizer ( 95088 )

      If Yahoo played their cards right, Geocities could have been what Facebook and Blogger is. It was the first big "instant amateur site" system. They had the audience. But, their content editors were crappy. (I hand coded my Geocities pages, which is one up-side, as an option.)

    • by Anonymous Coward

      That is, explicitly, what Neocities is, and has been since the beginning. This is just them experimenting with a new technology that furthers the mission of everyone having their own web space.

    • by antdude ( 79039 )

      Same here. :/

  • Freenet-- (Score:5, Interesting)

    by flink ( 18449 ) on Tuesday September 08, 2015 @06:12PM (#50482979)

    This seems an awful lot like the Freenet project [freenetproject.org], minus attempting to guarantee anonymity or plausible deniability. It is definitely interesting if it takes off as it would be nice to have a global public DHT-based CDN, but seeing that Freenet was around in beta for in the late 90's, this is nothing particularly new.

    • Freenet attempts to provide an extreme level of privacy, resistant to all forms of monitoring and censorship. Useful features, but they come with severe performance costs. Freenet is slow.

  • The first public wiki, the Wiki Wiki Web* founded by Ward Cunningham which covers soft. eng. philosophy, is trying to go "Federated", but so far users are confused up the wazoo.

    A determined "grammar vandal" mucked up the original wiki such that they had to rush out the federated one faster than planned.

    Related links:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org]
    http://c2.com/cgi/wiki [c2.com]
    http://c2.fed.wiki.org/view/we... [wiki.org]

    * Sometimes known as the "Portland Pattern Repository"

  • by Anonymous Coward

    3rd rule of the internet:

    if a project is hosted on a tld-flavor-of-the-month, it will ultimately fail.

  • by Lennie ( 16154 )

    They are talking about making content available everywhere forever.

    The IPFS article links to a YouTube video ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?... [youtube.com] ) which 'the uploader did not make available to your country'.

    Well, that's funny, because the video isn't their original content. The content was produced in my country by a public broadcaster (aka publicly funded TV).

  • Yea... Hype train avoided. Search wikipedia for ipfs and I get:

    The page "Ipfs" does not exist. You can ask for it to be created, but consider checking the search results below to see whether the topic is already covered.

    Not covered in the first 20 suggestions.

  • Sounds much like a project I was working on a couple of years ago. An distributed filsystem where everyone running a daemon could drop files into a pool (ocean) and the files was moved around as fixed size blocks/chunks. Automatically replicated so there was always 3-4 copies of each block/chunk available on different nodes to maintain full redundancy and resiliency if nodes was disconnected or disappeared.

  • So it's like freenet without the focus on anonymity.

    • And potentially much better performance. Freenet's heavy focus on anonymity and censorship-resistance comes with performance compromises. Similar concepts, but designed for different applications.

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