After Paris, ISIS Moves Propaganda Machine To Darknet (csoonline.com) 184
itwbennett writes: Over the weekend, researcher Scot Terban came across the new website of Al-Hayat Media Center, the media division of Daesh (aka ISIS/ISIL), in a post on Shamikh forum (a known jihadi bulletin board), 'someone had posted the new address and instructions for reaching it,' writes CSO's Steve Ragan. The website hosts the usual anti-Western iconography, as well as songs (Nasheeds) and poems for mujahids in various locations. Terban has mirrored the website and its files; he says he plans to publish more details in the coming days. 'Over the years, there have been several claims made that Daesh had propaganda and recruitment hubs on the Darknet, but no one has ever published proof of those claims or explored how the propaganda machine operates in public,' says Ragan.
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on "the darknet"?
What is the "darknet"? tor sites? freenet sites? or is darknet an actual service/thing?
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isn't clear FTFA, but follow links seems to point to Tor hidden services.
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The durkanet
Spelling fix (Score:2, Funny)
you misspelled Burkanet
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Oh, durka durka durka.
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It's the other side of the internet.
You know the internet, the stuff you can see? Websites, google, Perez Hilton, reddit? That's the side of the internet that is facing us at all times.
The other side is facing away at all times and is permanently in shadow.
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The other side is facing away at all times and is permanently in shadow.
Usenet?
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Nah they're using Gopher, and searching using ARCHIE.
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Maybe they have, but were laughing to hard to pay attention.
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I think it's just a term used by morons that don't know how the Internet works.
It could mean any or all of the following:
- Sites that aren't Facebook, Twitter, Google, or YouTube, and therefore, aren't as visible.
- Sites that don't get indexed on Google and therefore aren't as visible.
- Sites that don't have a DNS name and therefore aren't as visible.
- Geo-shitties sites with a black background. It's DARK on the DARKnet. Duh.
So basically, sites that aren't easily found by the masses. That's "the darknet" or "the dark web" or whatever some dumbass wants to call it.
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Internet or the internet? There's only one, so Internet. "I'm going on internet" "Well, i'm doing down pub with t'whippets"
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on "the darknet"?
What is the "darknet"? tor sites? freenet sites? or is darknet an actual service/thing?
This is a joke right? You folks are on /. and don't know what the Darknet is? I must have gone to the wrong Slashdot.
Re:darknet? (Score:4)
A mythical netherworld inhabited by pirates, assassins, pederasts, drug barons, counterfeiters, political subversives, money launderers and now terrorists that 99% of slashdotters would be fearful of stumbling upon for fear of being placed on an FBI watchlist?
Re:darknet? (Score:5, Funny)
Hi,
Click Ctrl riight-shift alt D on your keyboard.
A popup will appear asking you to confirm that you want to enter the dark-net.
Click OK. You are now on the darknet. It is like a second kind of Internet. This functionality is not publicized to much and more or less kept secret to protect the children.
P.S. You need recent browser and OS versions in order to access it since the TCP stack had to be adapted for the darknet. It uses a special bit in the TCP header.
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So like IPv6?
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The "darknet" is what journalists and non-tech people say when they don't know what the fuck they're talking about, because they heard it used on House of Cards and they think it's a thing we in the tech world actually say or use (or that it even exists).
"I found it on the darknet; it isn't listed in google and I had to use an IP address lol!"
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ISIS has and continues to kill more muslims than any other group of people on a DAILY BASIS and not a single news rag covers it until some white folks get shot.
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You don't read the news, then.
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Sorry but the OP is correct... this situation *has* been manufactured by the USA's long-standing practice of pissing in other people's pools.
If the USA (and other Western nations) just kept their noses out of other country's politics then there wouldn't be this rapidly growing anti-western sentiment within the Middle East.
Hell... the USA and UK invade Iraq on the fraudulent proposition that Saddam had a stockpile of weapons of mass destruction -- and look how that turned out.
The USA has almost certainly kil
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Sorry but the OP is correct... this situation *has* been manufactured by the USA's long-standing practice of pissing in other people's pools.
If the USA (and other Western nations) just kept their noses out of other country's politics then there wouldn't be this rapidly growing anti-western sentiment within the Middle East.
Hell... the USA and UK invade Iraq on the fraudulent proposition that Saddam had a stockpile of weapons of mass destruction -- and look how that turned out.
The USA has almost certainly killed more innocent men, women and children (conveniently categorised as "collateral damage") through their drone strikes than daesh has ever beheaded, shot or blown up.
The USA regularly executes its own citizens (hello Texas???) who the feel have violated their rules (rape/murder) -- yet complain so loudly when other cultures, religions or countries do the same.
Message to the US government: do not expect *anyone* to be pleased if you piss in their pool. Do not act surprised when those people decide to come piss in your pool.
I believe that what daesh and Al Quaeda have done is totally barbaric -- but then again, the same can be said for those Western nations who have engaged in acts of terrorism and murder against other nations.
Let he who is without sin ... as they say.
Why doesn't everyone just grow up and start acting like adults for a change????
Comparing Texas and ISIS really isn't fair. One executes for capital crimes after a lengthy trial and a 10+ year waiting list (ehich you could argue is more merciful than life in prison), and the other shoots anybody for any reason at any time. One blows up innocent civillains, the other pays for infastructure and rebuilds destroyed towns. As much noise as we like to make about it, America's actions in the war are far more civillized than ISIS' ever has been.
That being said, I will give you credit that t
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And as a result of Paris, there is a lot of racism directed at muslims the last couple days, or at least it suddenly feels like so. Nobody yet realizes that calling for the mass execution of muslims because they are evil and rape and murder sounds stunningly like Nazi rhetoric against the Jewish (just as untrue), and worse, it appears as though now it's culturally acceptable.
I have noticed the same thing. Whilst it does not appear to be universally acceptable, unfortunately it seems to me that it is the viewpoint of those who are most outspoken, particularly on social media, which turns it into an echo chamber. How do we combat this without simply getting into an argument with such people? There is no evidence that trying to reason with these people via the Internet achieves anything - in fact, there are countless forum posts and article comment sections which point to the exac
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And as a result of Paris, there is a lot of racism directed at muslims the last couple days, or at least it suddenly feels like so. Nobody yet realizes that calling for the mass execution of muslims because they are evil and rape and murder sounds stunningly like Nazi rhetoric against the Jewish (just as untrue), and worse, it appears as though now it's culturally acceptable.
And the terrorists know that and are actively seeking [wikipedia.org] it.
It's an age old tactic. After all all insurgencies start small with just a handful of those willing to take action actively in the fight. The vast majority just want to get on with their lives, no matter the circumstances. That risks that the revolution peters out. So in order to put some backbone into the population rallying them against a common enemy is the order of the day.
This can be done by for example hitting the enemy hard enough that they ret
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Why doesn't everyone just grow up and start acting like adults for a change????
This is the most stupid sentiment to ever grace the Internet. Adults have been doing this to each other for all of recorded history, and almost certainly before then. To suggest that these are not grown-ups is just sheer stupidity and completely ignoring the real problems and reasons people act this way.
Outside of the occasional bully, I have never met a child who acted the way you suggest these grown-ups are acting.
Re: This is really wierd (Score:2, Insightful)
No. It is not enough. Particularly as the US set him up to be what he was in the first place. Above all he was "modern" and secular. Vicious, nasty, a tyrant, all yes, yes, yes. Nevertheless less he kept a lid on the violence and was moving it towards a modern democratic state. You, cannot seriously presume that Iraq now has less violence and happier people after two illegal invasions by the US? Yes, Saddam was a scrap. The US picking at that scab has helped no one and caused death and misery for mi
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You are mistaken on many points. Saddam was not put into power by the US. Saddam didn't keep a lid on violence, he inflicted it on his population and engaged in wars of aggression against his neighbors and attacked others. Saddam funded terrorism. The mortality rate in Iraq from state violence and terrorism is still probably lower than Saddam's long term average. It could have been far lower if progressives hadn't pushed so hard to get stabilizing influences out of Iraq.
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You have no idea. It shouldn't really be a surprise, but every time you open your mouth (keyboard?) and let everyone know you have no idea it still stuns - surely someone would know that they are exposing their ignorance for all to see.
Your understanding of Iraq and Saddam Hussein would be laughable, were the topic not so brutal.
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Saddam was maintained in power by the US and its interests. Saddam kept a lid on violence that threatened the stability of his country and his neighbors, not all violence. Saddam funded much less terrorism than the US. You're going to have to provide some numbers for that last claim, unless you're trying to claim the time periods of his power and removal are somehow equal (they are not).
Stabilizing influences, like Saddam you mean?
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the USA and UK invade Iraq on the fraudulent proposition that Saddam had a stockpile of weapons of mass destruction -- and look how that turned out.
Indeed. So the fact that he was a butcher and a tyrant isn't enough to justify removing him from power? Typical bloody pacifist. Do nothing, just because you're too lazy to step up and do *something*. Right.
Obviously it isn't enough to invade Saudi Arabia, another sharia law country that has a long list of human rights violations.
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Iraq wasn't a Sharia law country. The scale of abuses aren't even close to comparable. Iraq has hundreds of mass graves. Saddam used nerve gas on the villages of Iraqi Kurds, and engaged in other forms of mass slaughter against others. There were as many as 2,000,000 Iraqis that died under Saddams regime as a result of mass murder, war, and all manner of abuse. Saudi Arabia is nothing like that.
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Iraq wasn't a Sharia law country.
I never said it was. I was pointing out that Saudi Arabia, a sharia law country, seems to be immune from accountability, trade sanctions, etc. because OIL.
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So what?
Really what does that have to do with is it real or manufactured?
BTW I see lots of news all the time about all the people being killed in Iraq and Syria so I really do not know what you mean by no one cares.
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That's nothing more than a limitation of your own information bubble.
You sound like a SJW. Al Jazeera covers the topic of Muslims killing Musilms in great detail and is arguably more left in its perspectives than Mother Jones.
Check it out, maybe you will learn something.
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The problem is two-fold. Fascist fanatics who will kill others who don't agree with them and simping fools who think that if they're nice and quiet and respectful and kind - then they will be met with the same kindness.
“If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed;
if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly;
you may come to the moment when you will have to fig
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Re:This is really wierd (Score:4, Insightful)
Of course. It's us vs them. They hate our Western, Judeo-Christian way of life. They want a one-world caliphate dominated by islam (I will not capitalize the word out of disrepect). islam is not just a religion; it's a complete system: religion is one aspect, there is also politics, civil governance, you name it. These asshats want the world under this system. Thankfully there are several sects and they all hate each other. Iran is a bulwark in the region against these people, although they are far from innocent. Notice these asshats won't life a finger to Iran? They know what would happen should they try.
Were I the president, I would fire bomb them for weeks on end with MOABs and napalm. If the bombs don't get you, lack of oxygen will. Enough playing games with these people. They want us dead. So, yes, when white Europeans die, it's a big deal. These people are roaches, so when one or more of them dies, it's not a big deal at all. They want to kill us and take over our way of life. Do you think for a second the migrants, 90% of whom are military-aged men is a joke? I've got family in Europe in several places, and they are considering moving because things are not what they should be. These men rape and kill everywhere they go. Sweden had, until islamic refugees, one of the lowest rape and crime instances in the EU. Now? Sweden and much of the EU will become like Detroit, just with different kinds of "gang bangers".
From their perspective, you want to kill and murder them all too, and apparently are willing to use highly explosive and vuiolent means to do so. Furthermore, you'd be willing not only to kill the terrorists, but every single living thing in all of those countries.
I despise ISIS with a burning passion for what they've done, but when other westerners get on a high horse about them "murdering us" and how we must "kill them all", you really don't see the irony that they're in the exact same position? That's not even starting with the fact most muslims are normal people too, outside of the reach of ISIS. It's not like we can quit now, but it's absurd to see how eager you are not only to repeat the events of 9/11 and worsen the situation even further, but about how you're just as violent and psychopathic as the terrorists you condem.
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most muslims are normal people too, outside of the reach of ISIS
That is true, but an alarming number of them support Sharia law, which is basically just the slightly-more-friendly-coloured version of ISIS.
Yes, most muslims are interested in their family, children and business. At the same time, their definition of what that means differ radically from ours, proved by crazy shit like "honour killings" (if you're living under a rock: Murdering your daughter because she's dating a non-muslim or something like that which "stains the family honour").
And let's not forget that
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Dude, a million+ people have died in Iraq alone as a result of Bush's invasion. All the key isis people are ex-iraqis, recruiting younger, dimmer but more excitable people from everywhere else. That's what's manufactured this situation. Not a few websites. Watch "four lions" - the fuckers are everywhere.
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Do you have any citation or source for that? As of today, iraqbodycount.org reports 224,000 deaths, so this makes me curious from where you've got this "million+" figure.
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I am certain the murdered people's family and friends in Paris would disagree with your assessment as "manufactured".
Make no doubt, it was murder for hire. So yes, in a way, it is "manufactured". People have to get paid. Anybody who carries on with this religious bullshit is an idiot.
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Please call them by their proper name: Daesh [reddit.com]. Calling them the "Islamic State" of anything grants credibility to a minute, small fraction of the population.
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Eh, it was already a pretty safe assumption that they controlled a not-insignificant number of the US exit nodes to begin with.
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Or read this (referenced on the Wikipedia page) https://pando.com/2014/07/16/tor-spooks/ [pando.com]...
Re:The propaganda machine in public (Score:5, Interesting)
Expected range of violence. No one in the US bats an eye at the Chicago inner city murder rate, but if a single bullet is fired in the prosperous parts of the same city it'll be national news.
No one in "the west" wants to actively take sides in yet another round of the same tribal warfare that's been going on since before the last time the tribal warfare burnt down all the libraries in their reach. But when one of the tribes decides to attack outside their little sandbox, it's noticed.
I'm not defending this, I think the selective outrage is reprehensible, but it can be useful to understand. The public opinion is not concerned with the actual levels of violence, only about changes in the level of violence. Anything you've apparently been able to live through is considered tolerable as it is, but if things get worse, that's a time for panic.
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It's not tribal warfare. It's far from tribal warfare. It's a battle of ideologies. Saying it's tribes ignores the real reasons groups like these get together, which ensures it will happen again.
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I don't know how many Syrian and Iraqi civilians died in the past year,
Syrians are voting with their feet. They are undertaking horrendous and dangerous journeys to get to Europe . . . all which is better than living under a Muslim ruled country.
If Islam is so great, how come so many people are trying to get away from it? It seems that the only folks who want to go to the Islamic state are teenage boys, who like the idea of buying teenage girls sex slaves.
Islam is worse than Nazis . . . and until we acknowledge that, the West will suffer wherever we offer Muslims refuge.
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Oh, they're running from it now, but what do you wanna bet in two generations, when they've out breed the indigenous Europeans, they'll get nostalgic and cry for sharia law, and the SJW crowd will stand for their particular brand of oppression on the principal that its not the white patriarchal oppression which has treated them so well.
Re:The propaganda machine in public (Score:4, Insightful)
If Islam is so great, how come so many people are trying to get away from it?
They aren't. They are taking Islam with them.
What they are trying to get away from is war and the destruction that goes with all that; caused by fanatical extremist nutjobs they don't agree with but lack the power to do anything about.
It seems that the only folks who want to go to the Islamic state are ...
Maladjusted, unhappy, people who feel afraid, helpless, and isolated who want to be part of something bigger and stronger to validate themselves and feel powerful. So... the same sort of people who join street gangs, and for much the same reasons.
Islam is worse than Nazis
ISIS is getting up there. They're still a genocide of millions behind them, but they aren't good people that's for sure. And we shouldn't wait for them ratchet up the death toll any further.
But why blame Islam? Some nutjobs perverted and distorted the religion to integrate it with their propaganda . The root religion is no more at fault here than Christianity was the root problem of the Nazis and their racist perversion of Christianity "Positive Christianity".
West will suffer wherever we offer Muslims refuge.
Your comparison to the Nazi's seems apt again. Were all German's that fled Germany during world war 2 closet Nazi's? That the only reason anyone fled Germany was to start up local Nazi seed groups?
I gather, you fear that any Christians lurking about are secretly planning Spanish Inquisition 2.0 too.
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I gather, you fear that any Christians lurking about are secretly planning Spanish Inquisition 2.0 too.
Well, I wasn't expecting the Spanish Inquisition, until they showed up at my door, mumbling something about "the rack" and the "comfy chair" . . . .
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Is there some kind of disease where you can't tell the difference between "Islam isn't the same as Nazism" and "Islam is super great"?
I *don't like Islam*, but let's take your comparison of Islam being worse than Nazis. Blaming Islam for ISIS is like blaming Christianity for Nazis. Nazis were nominally Christian and used Christian symbology. There are many recorded speeches where they explicitly declare Germany (Nazi Germany) a Christian nation. But it just doesn't actually reflect on Christianity, and
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And that's the problem, they flee instead of facing the danger and taking care of it.
What Daesh (IS) really want is to cause chaos in the rest of the world with all the refugees and by that also infiltrate countries with some of their own.
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How are they supposed to take care of it when the world's powers are engaged in a proxy war between an entrenched dictator and well-armed groups. It's all well and good asking why they don't stay, but it only takes a few seconds to figure out why. There is sweet fuck-all they can do.
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You are confusing Islam with fundamental Islam. Doing so makes you indistinguishable from a lazy xenophobe.
Your argument would make sense if the only difference between Syria and Europe was Islam. Clearly all the violence and bombings and fucked-up economy etc. are not the same as in Europe, so your "logic" is a farce, only proving your desire to leap to conclusions which bolster your pre-existing hatred, or your complete lack of logical ability. Neither is particularly becoming. I guess if you and your
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If Islam is so great, how come so many people are trying to get away from it?
The refugees are not trying to get away from Islam. They are trying to get away from war, bombs and dying in a hail of bullets.
Re:The propaganda machine in public (Score:5, Insightful)
There has been quite a bit published in the news about people being killed in Syria and Iraq. I don't know what news you are reading, but I have seen it all over Fox, CNN, and BBC.
Here is the reports of the Kurds retaking Sinjar for the Yazidi people who were attacked by ISIS:
http://www.cnn.com/2015/11/11/... [cnn.com]
Kobani was all over the news, how did you miss it?
http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/27/... [cnn.com]
This story has been all over the news, of course there are things that we in the west miss out on, and some of that is due to the violence of war itself, not all the news actually get out.
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We are attempting to discuss something far more important than some fuckwit's shitty hosts software.
Have some fucking dignity and check your software at the door. There are times and places for discussing it, this is not one of them.
Show some fucking respect.
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http://lessig.tumblr.com/post/... [tumblr.com]
It appears you are both severely OCD, and have an issue letting things go even when proved wrong. Sounds just like you, I can see the comparison.
Are you too simple to use Google? Is it too hard for you? We know you don't do computers well, so it can be excused if you never learned how to Google something to find out what it means, after all, you were born before the first personal computer was invented.
Also, your subject, Yes, the truth will set you free, so admit it, you
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It doesn't take a licensed professional to diagnose someone, only to treat someone.
So, since you think it does, I have to ask where you think you have the right to do the exact same thing to me, accusing me of being mentally aberrant and abnormal (and elsewhere calling me a retard)?
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Yeah, you sure annihilated me...when you made a complete and utter fool of yourself. Keep it up, everyone is laughing at you.
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Not a bad idea, I could get creative with that.
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Why do we see no bold comments by Iran and Saudi Arabia where they are willing to put aside their difference to stop the slaughter of fellow muslims?
Are you really as clueless as this question indicates?
This Is Proof. Proof I say... (Score:1)
That ToR and the darknet is a terrorist system, that must be stopped.
I say, boy, pay attention when I’m talkin’ to ya, boy
Let's get something straight... (Score:1)
If "the terrorists" have been forced out of the regular internet, then it's a victory for the good guys. The Darknet is not conducive to propaganda activity. Propoganda needs to be readily available and ubiquitous in order to succeed. Being relegated to the Darknet is not going to help the Isis cause in any way.
But let's all forget all that and put on the fear-monger hats for a bit, eh?
Uh, not sure if ISIS knows how to Internet... (Score:2)
I thought ISIS's whole thing was recruiting people through social media.
Kinda hard to reach the public when you take your propaganda machine into part of the Internet most people don't know even exists.
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I thought ISIS's whole thing was recruiting people through social media.
And that will probably continue. Until the potential recruits have been vetted (i.e. no FBI logging onto a game and volunteering to go to Syria). At that point, they will probably be given instructions on where and how to connect to a darknet portal.
Our intelligence services are getting quite lazy. No actual humint [wikipedia.org] work, even on line. They just want to scrape the Internet with giant automated filters and act on every instance of "bomb" or "jihad" that they trip over. It's too much work to pose as a disench
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I know I am totally down for this duty. Plus, I want to drive the new Aston Martin, and hang around Monte Carlo and the Bahamas.
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hang around Monte Carlo and the Bahamas
Any volunteers for an undercover assignment in Tora Bora?
[sound of crickets]
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But give them the opportunity to put on a tuxedo, drink martinis and meet Pussy Galore and I'm sure they'd be up for that.
In all fairness, what heterosexual male wouldn't be up for that?
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Just the thought makes me ... uhhm... go up.
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Left me? You are funny, I kicked her ass out, got the house, car, and child support. Perhaps you should check your idiocity at the door, as I don't think it belongs on an article about the Paris attacks or this thread, which is about the CIA playing James Bond.
APK, your OCD/NPD is shining through, everything always has to be about you and how SPECIAL you are.
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It is only libel if it isn't true, care to submit to a psych eval to determine who is correct on this?
Since you decided to bring up my signature yet again, here are some other people's signatures I have collected over the past couple of days, just for you:
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Only two facts are certain in this world: DNS is better than hosts, and APK has a bad case of OCD.
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APK thinks spamming slashdot is good advertising... Definitely not for his doctor.
So, since you are so sensitive about people's signatures, perhaps you should use your account to read Slashdot. You don't even have to use the account to post, but I would highly encourage it.
PS - Apologies to those these were shamelessly stolen from, I w
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Our intelligence services are getting quite lazy. No actual humint [wikipedia.org] work, even on line. They just want to scrape the Internet with giant automated filters and act on every instance of "bomb" or "jihad" that they trip over.
Your lack of understanding of what US intel is currently doing is hilarious.
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Your lack of understanding of what US intel is currently doing is hilarious.
So you're saying we saw Paris coming, but just didn't bother to tell the French? Or we've caught all the people leaking NSA/CIA information (other than Snowden, the one guy who came out and admitted what he did and that this crap goes on all the time). Of course, we're pretty good at catching Chinese spies [nytimes.com]. Because they have Chinese names.
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So you're saying that because we didn't see Paris coming, that means we're not doing human intel anymore?
Try again.
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we're not doing human intel anymore?
Not doing it well. Some 18 year-old /b/tard can track anonymous posts through various "dark apps" and successfully dox them. But our professional intelligence services are crying "Dark apps! We're helpless!" They are incompetent.
Try again.
And this defends your position how, exactly?
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So you went from "we're not doing any actual human intel" to "we're not doing it well."
I think we're done here.
The "Darknet" may vomit them out. (Score:3)
There are a lot of talented programmers out there using TOR who just might not appreciate a disruption in business by a bunch of religious nuts. Anonymous has already voiced their disapproval.
I foresee highly amusing consequences of ISIS attempts to make use of "darknet" resources. They may find that all of their orders for rations have been modified to include bacon and all of their ammunition is rerouted to Sweden.
Link (Score:1)
http://isdratetp4donyfy.onion/ - Link to the site in question, if you want to take a personal look at the scum of the earth.
It's the first result on Twitter when searching .onion.link, and the start (isd...) matches the badly smudged-out URL in TFA's screenshot, so that's the same hidden service.
I'll just leave this here and with a little bit of luck some elite haxxor will mess with their shit.
That's not how propaganda works. (Score:2)
"The website hosts the usual anti-Western icon..." (Score:1)
Check your privileged ignorance, AC (Score:2, Interesting)
Denmark surrendered two hours after being invaded in the war, but the French get all the bad press.
No excuse for such ignorance in the age of Wikipedia.
Update your joke to a level appropriate for this site populated by genius-level intellects and try again.