Racism Is Rampant on Reddit, and Its Editors Are in Open Revolt (bloomberg.com) 421
An anonymous reader shares a report: The volunteer moderators of Reddit's r/blackladies community -- an online message board that currently has over 40,000 members -- wrote an open letter outlining their frustrations with the popular website in August 2014. They had pitched their message board, known as a subreddit, as a safe space for Black women, but were being deluged with hateful comments and links to racist content from anonymous accounts. "They are relentless, coming in barrages," the moderators wrote. "We have a racist user problem and Reddit won't take action." Several months later Alexis Ohanian, one of Reddit's co-founders, joined a comment thread on r/blackladies discussing the letter. Ohanian, who had recently returned to the company as its executive chairman, said protecting communities like theirs from abuse was a "top priority." He solicited suggestions on how to do it, and expressed interest in an "ongoing dialogue with all of the mods who signed onto the open letter."
Reddit user TheYellowRose, a r/blackladies moderator who helped write the letter said in a recent phone interview that Ohanian's promised dialogue never materialized. To TheYellowRose, who asked to be identified only by her screen name because she is still regularly subjected to racist abuse and fears physical violence if her identity is revealed, Ohanian's initial enthusiasm for the idea seemed like just another example of the company's leaders trying to say the right things without seriously confronting the ways their site harbored extremists and gave them a place to organize. Reddit has faced several potential inflection points in its approach to racism in the six years since then, but has never undertaken a full enough reckoning to satisfy its critics. It's facing another big moment in the aftermath of the killing of George Floyd. Once again, the pressure is coming in part from the volunteers who moderate Reddit's countless message boards. On June 1, Steve Huffman, another co-founder who has been chief executive since 2015, sent a note to Reddit employees voicing support for the Black Lives Matter movement. "We do not tolerate hate, racism, and violence, and while we have work to do to fight these on our platform, our values are clear," he wrote.
Reddit user TheYellowRose, a r/blackladies moderator who helped write the letter said in a recent phone interview that Ohanian's promised dialogue never materialized. To TheYellowRose, who asked to be identified only by her screen name because she is still regularly subjected to racist abuse and fears physical violence if her identity is revealed, Ohanian's initial enthusiasm for the idea seemed like just another example of the company's leaders trying to say the right things without seriously confronting the ways their site harbored extremists and gave them a place to organize. Reddit has faced several potential inflection points in its approach to racism in the six years since then, but has never undertaken a full enough reckoning to satisfy its critics. It's facing another big moment in the aftermath of the killing of George Floyd. Once again, the pressure is coming in part from the volunteers who moderate Reddit's countless message boards. On June 1, Steve Huffman, another co-founder who has been chief executive since 2015, sent a note to Reddit employees voicing support for the Black Lives Matter movement. "We do not tolerate hate, racism, and violence, and while we have work to do to fight these on our platform, our values are clear," he wrote.
What is with people? (Score:5, Insightful)
I just don't understand what makes someone go out of their way to disrupt other people's lives.
Just do your own thing and leave other people alone to do theirs.
Re:What is with people? (Score:5, Insightful)
Deeply insecure, pathetic people like to assert themselves by making other people's lives hell. It makes them feel powerful and gives their lives some kind of meaning.
Re:What is with people? (Score:5, Insightful)
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Re:What is with people? (Score:4, Insightful)
There are mens groups.
But white men's groups? Try making one and see how long you are tolerated.
It's called a country club.
Re:What is with people? (Score:5, Insightful)
Trying to declare yourself a safe space is practically begging them to target you as opposed to looking elsewhere for their kicks. About the most you can do about it is remove offensive posts and keep quiet about, because reacting to them or getting mad and raging in the internet is exactly what they want and encourages them to come back.
That's why there's the old internet adage about not feeding the trolls. They only reason they'll stop is because they get bored and move on to something else. Any complex solutions to the problem are unlikely to work and clever trolls will just look to exploit them to turn the community against itself with them.
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They said similar stuff about email spam and that is pretty much beaten now.
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only because of automated censorship - the amount of email spam is still huge, you just don't notice it.
Statista says its well over 50%
https://www.statista.com/stati... [statista.com]
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That's what I mean. The torrent is still there because spamming is cheap, but it's also 99.9% ineffective and I haven't had a spam mail get through to my inbox for years, and very rarely a false positive either.
If we could make anti-trolling that effective there would be no problem.
In Reddit's case though it could easily offer some tools to make things better. Have the first few posts when someone joins moderated before being displayed for example. It's not much work, certainly less than clearing up the mes
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I couldn't agree more, and I've said this for years.
A few times here and there I've had someone tell me something about myself and my reaction was a feeling of disgust, like finding a hidden camera in a bathroom or similar. A little curiosity about other people is natural, but many people take it too far.
I have a book called "Imperative People" and it gets into some analysis, but I'm not sure about the root of the problem- as someone above commented, some kind of insecurity is a factor.
Live and let live.
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One way to shore up the status quo is to keep the people below you worried that the people below *them* might catch up.
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If only being left alone were an option for black people.
NOPE! Have some more stop and frisk where they plant drugs on you, "safety checks" where they murder you and your dog, and pretextual stops while driving, "because something felt off".
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https://pics.me.me/i-will-neve... [pics.me.me] (SFW)
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I meant to add, what seems obvious: EGO.
But again, I don't know the root cause, except that we all have them, and I surmise that some get overly fed and nurtured and become monsters.
Money & Power (Score:5, Informative)
So if you're a Russia or an Iran or any other country that wants to weaken the unity of America (one of your chief opponents on the global stage) you go after racial tensions because you know it'll make the country weaker through infighting.
Add to that a raft of opportunists using racism as a wedge issue [duckduckgo.com] to divide the working class and stop reforms that would benefit them.
Racism & Bigotry in general is always the same scam. If you're trying to divide people up into groups you can control there's no better way. It exploits tribalism tendencies that we're probably hard wired for. I wish we'd teach that in schools so folks could get in on the scam, understand it and learn to avoid it. But all we ever do is sign Kumbaya and hold hands.
Sad state of affairs (Score:2)
I guess the simple solution would be to just not use the product. Nobody should have to put up with that kind of crap.
Re:Sad state of affairs (Score:5, Insightful)
True. It's an online comment platform that allows anyone to post anything about anyone anonymously. People can be incredibly shitty especially when they know there's no way to identify them. It's a price we pay for anonymity. Look what happens when someone posts something even slightly controversial on Twitter or FB. They get slammed by the community. Reddit is basically inviting random hate speech by allowing it without consequence.
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While I can see why some people might want anonymous accounts it seems to me to be more trouble than they are worth. It's just a troll magnet. People tend to think twice when it is their real name attached to online comments. Makes for a more civil discussion.
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While I can see why some people might want anonymous accounts it seems to me to be more trouble than they are worth. It's just a troll magnet. People tend to think twice when it is their real name attached to online comments. Makes for a more civil discussion.
Have you ever been on facebook? Or twitter for that matter, though it's not mandatory there.
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Very little to be honest. The prospect of getting into a verbal sparring match with some anonymous troll is not something I relish.
Having said that, my wife uses FB to keep in touch with her family and classmates and seems to have avoided the negative trash. It helped her to reconnect with classmates from years ago. With Messenger, she can call her family for free and text them for free. For her it has been a positive experience. It's all about how you use it.
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--Exactly, whatever happened to people starting their own sites with PHPBB or similar? You pool some money, hire a web admin, lock the forums down to people with registered accounts and make sure it's moderated.
visibility, discovetability (Score:2)
and social networks trying as hard as possible to keep you in.
some do it intentionally (twitter, facebook, youtube, etc) others do it by accident due to networking effect (e.g. wikipedia, wikiawikia) (is reddit non commercial?)
when you want to create a community nowadays it's easier to create a sub section on $platform that you know already and everybody around uses to, rather than start your own platform.
it's also cheaper (most platforms provide subsections for free, to try to attract "free users" - aka mo
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Because "rights" to some are no longer "things you cannot prevent me from doing" but rather "things other people have to do for me." It's much easier to demand that someone do things your way rather than doing all the work yourself.
A cornered animal will attack. (Score:4, Insightful)
The problem with racist and bigots is they really don't see themselves that way. However they are fearful of the others taking power and use that power to put them at a disadvantage.
One of the big thing with the Black Lives Matter protests is the number of Whites who are protesting with them, and standing with them. This is putting them in a moral corner. Where they feel they are being attacked because not a lot of people are joining to back them up. So they will become more cruel and viscous as best as they can. Usually just trolling internet boards. But if they have more power they can be very dangerous.
Sites need to moderate these people, because they are doing harm. However by moderating them, they are feeling more threatened thus get more aggressive.
If I am trying to catch a mouse, I need to corner it so I can actually catch it, but when I do, it will become aggressive and possibly bite me, unless I am careful.
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The problem is that we've given the far right an incredibly light touch since 9/11 happened pursuing this theory, we've even called far right terrorist attacks "murders" and so forth whereas Islamists would clearly be called terrorists in identical circumstances. They've been given free reign on social media where Islamist terrorists were cracked down upon hard.
In that time frame, Islamist terrorism has faded away significantly as a threat, far right terrorism has grown. Islamist terrorism got as bad as it
Re:A cornered animal will attack. (Score:4, Insightful)
You're wanting to trade freedom for security. You're criticizing those on the right pretty hard, which would make me think that you're on the left, but maybe you actually have more in common with the right (that only certain voices should be heard). I'm guessing you must be a fan of the Patriot Act, too?
There's a clear line between words and action. And that's how it works; you can (mostly) say what you want, but when you cross the line from words to actions, appropriate measures are supposed to be taken.
No, we should not be silencing voices. Why? Because this can lead to silencing of more voices. Just hate groups? These days, that definition is expanding to include more and more groups. Look at JK Rowling; whelp, she used hate speech, I guess it's time to silence her.
That's the price of freedom. People can do both good and bad things. It sounds like you'd like to live in a society where only certain voices can speak. That's disturbing. I'd be a fan of maybe separating out a state where that could happen; but I wouldn't support it for anything federally.
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I'm sure in this case its not racists, but trolls out to cause distress and get off on the reactions.
you can usually tell because a racist is reasonably measured in tone, whereas the trolls are excessive in their abuse.
The BLM protests is another matter - white liberals (or dangerous foxes as Malcolm X called them) are there to use the blacks as cover. I've seen black people being kicked in by white BLM protestors because they were defending their livelihoods. Figure that one out if you truly think the whit
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If I am trying to catch a mouse, I need to corner it so I can actually catch it, but when I do, it will become aggressive and possibly bite me, unless I am careful.
Looks who's dehumanizing people now. Which is troubling considering terms like "racist" and "bigot" have become utterly meaningless and are thrown at anyone who disagrees with the left.
Re:A cornered animal will attack. (Score:4, Insightful)
But often terms like "racist" and "bigot" are simply applied to people being racists and bigots, and dismissed as reactions from daring to disagree with the "left".
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That escalated quickly.
Unfortunately how distressful these racists are, and how angry they make us feel. We really shouldn't be even jokingly talking about killing them.
Part of the Right Wing Narrative is that they are an oppressed group of people, where Liberals are actively trying to get them all. Oddly enough the Liberal Narrative is similar.
A lot of this racism isn't from a rational stance, but from a combination of ignorance (not knowing or working with enough minorities to see how unique and diverse
Moderator of racist, sexist subreddit is surprised (Score:2, Insightful)
I wish we could get these fine folks to understand.
The name of your group is BlackLadies.
You create a subreddit that's literally NAMED $race$sex.
Your purpose is divide people based on the immutable characteristics of race of sex. Racism and sexism is the group. Then you complain that there is racism in a group you created for your favored race, as a place to be away from other races.
Ladies, you don't beat racism by being more racist than last person. "If you can't beat em, join em" isn't the way to go here
Re:Moderator of racist, sexist subreddit is surpri (Score:4, Funny)
I'm an old white college educated guy. But today I identify as a in-shape, young black female -- because I can. That's what all you people keep telling me, everyone, and even yourselves: that you can become anything at anytime. Anything. AN. NY. THING, simply by wishing for or just stating it.
(I haven't posted there, not gonna. Don't care. People can collect together and discuss what they wish, or even deny others entry just because they want to -- what a concept! It's just like I can'be a member of the Association of Child Prodigies because I can't play, never mind ageism.) So accept me as I am, because that's exactly what you wished for and so here I am. But then again I might join, and I should be accepted with wide smiles and open arms.
Well, today anyway; tomorrow I'll identify as a small blue tomato. Anyone know of an Irregular Asexual Colored (just couldn't resist that as I was typing -- sorry) Vegetable Online Special Interest Group?
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That's a gross mischaracterization of the idea that race and gender are social constructs. That idea does not posit that someone can simply decide to switch between races and genders. Rather, that race and gender are more accurately described by the way society sees you rather than immutable biological characteristics.
A white dude who presents as male can't successfully declare himself a black woman because nobody in society will treat him as such, and nobody is arguing they should. Same reason I can't go a
Re:Moderator of racist, sexist subreddit is surpri (Score:4, Informative)
A white dude who presents as male can't successfully declare himself a black woman because nobody in society will treat him as such, and nobody is arguing they should.
You [foxnews.com] were [breitbart.com] saying? [yahoo.com]
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I don't see anything in your links about a white male presenting himself as a black woman. Moreover, for a transgender person to be accepted as such, they have to actually present as their chosen gender. If you declare yourself transgender but make no effort to change your gender presentation, nobody is going to accept you in that new gender.
Transgender athletes competing are an interesting issue, but there all sorts of reasons why athletes are grouped. A 250lb guy can't complete as a flyweight boxer even i
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Rather, that race and gender are more accurately described by the way society sees you rather than immutable biological characteristics.
So what you're saying is that my identity is determined by how others see me, not how I see myself? Effectively - my identity is just a function of those around me.
Truly, it is the color of the skin, and not the content of the character that matters...
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Are you actually butt hurt because you the unfit old white guy might be excluded from the black females group?
Imagine how you might actually feel if you were a black female and a whole lot more was unavailable because of rampant racism and sexism, job promotions passed over, unlikely to get into the best universities because of the background you were born in to.
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Are you also against only alcoholics going to alcoholic support groups, are you against cancer patients exclusively being allowed in cancer support groups?
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These black men really threw this black girl in the dumpster. No words. We need to have a conversation about misogyny within the black community, like, yesterday.
finally figured out my hair textures after years.
African American Nutrition is often perceived as poor, what are some possible solutions?
This is not an attack on you (or men, or white people), it's a place for conversations about race and gender and how it affects their lives. Unless you're suggesting black women face exactly the same issues as every other demographic, and there's no cultural nuances to their experiences? Or is it that they shouldn't talk about it? I'm
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Individuals face their own challenges. Some other individuals might sometimes treat people they interact with differently based on their sex/race/whatever, but in the end it's all individuals.
Because individuals might share a need it makes sense to sometimes group people by need - for example "people subjected to sexual violence". However, when you generalize based on largely irrelevant characteristics, you're going to end up dealing with a group who do not all have the need(s) you're looking to address, wh
I'm racist for MLK (Score:3)
> it's a place for conversations about race and gender and how it affects their lives.
I'm in a Facebook that's for a somewhat similar purpose. At first I recoiled at the invitation because I think artificially dividing people by skin complexion is really dumb, but after a few days I decided to read and find out what's going on with the group. Maybe it could be beneficial for me to tactfully and lovingly share that viewpoint, if this group is a place where people listen?
Herbert Spencer* said:
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There is
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Yes and no. You can definitely out-prejudice the (assumed) prejudiced. You can definitely out-exclude the exclusive and win. There is a contingent of my liberal community that is blinded to the ethical wrongness of their methodology by the righteousness of their cause... and currently they're achieving their goals.
I would modify your statement to "You don't beat racism by being more racist than the last person... and continue to be the 'good guys'."
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We tried that already and realized it was shitty and didn't work. It's utterly bizarre to see this idea being pushed on college campuses [nationalreview.com] mainly from the side of the political spectrum that previously most strongly opposed the idea.
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Except they don't want safe spaces, they want hugboxes where they are free to take their rage out on anyone who doesn't do the bothersome dance and gatekeep who is and is not part of the group (this is very common in LGBT spaces, tell them you're a bisexual man married to a woman, or that you regret/oppose bottom surgery, they lose their shit). A safe space is somewhere someone can speak his mind on a subject that affects him without fear of being attacked, word policed, shouted over, gatekept, or otherwise
Shouldn't article mention Ohanian's resignation? (Score:5, Interesting)
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Steve "Valuable Discussion" Huffman
Steve "Blatant Racism Is Okay Unless the News Writes About It" Huffman
Not a racist problem - troll problem (Score:2, Informative)
They are relentless, coming in barrages," the moderators wrote. "We have a racist user problem and Reddit won't take action.
The thing is, just because they use racist material, does not make them a racist. It's almost always simply a troll, using whatever tool is best to press hot buttons.
It helps to simply be more indifferent to them, the screeching reaction from moderators as we see here is kind of a solid gold reward for the trolling, and ensures you will get heaps more as they laugh at your complaints.
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Re:Not a racist problem - troll problem (Score:5, Insightful)
People of every race get shat on by other people every day. Sometimes it's racism, but not always. Recognizing the difference will help to prevent a worthwhile movement from turning into a shit-show.
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I think there is considerable truth in what you say, but it's not as if actual, sincere racists don't exist. The trolls give them a bigger footprint than they'd have on their own. If you a target of a threat, you can't just assume it's someone posing.
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The thing is, just because they use racist material, does not make them a racist. It's almost always simply a troll, using whatever tool is best to press hot buttons.
Could be both.
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"The thing is, just because they use racist material, does not make them a racist. It's almost always simply a troll, using whatever tool is best to press hot buttons."
So what you're saying is that non-racists use racist tropes because they enjoy the result. Does that change the problem ANY? Should we have a more positive view of these people because they may NOT be racist? How does this help and why should "reasonable solutions" be different because of it?
I can only imagine how this sort of view and app
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The thing is, just because they use racist material, does not make them a racist. It's almost always simply a troll, using whatever tool is best to press hot buttons.
What makes you think a troll using racist material is able to separate racism from reality? I mean the vast majority of trolls is unbearable dipshits in real life too, so it's no stretch that someone who gets shits and giggles out of being racist is in fact a racist dipshit in real life too.
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There is a place (Score:2)
with 40,000 black ladies and no men to look after them?! ... Where do I sign up??
Proposed new reddit feature (Score:2)
A lot of people would be a lot less racist if their peers were told about their racism.
A "Safe Space" in a public forum? (Score:2)
How was that ever going to work? Is there some sort of "members only" function on reddit that I've never heard of before?
Poke the bear? (Score:2)
Some this isn't racism. Some of it is just: Oh you have a black ladies only group? Well lets just shoot this at you!!!
Some I'm sure are just bots.
Unfortunately, some is racist peeps with nothing better to do.
Dang I don't have time to mow the lawn, let alone take time to post racist comments to people I don't know, etc.
Huh, I guess I have time to post here...
I have thinking to do...
So quit Reddit. (Score:2)
Seriously, how is "website X's users hate website X but won't quit" news for nerds?
How mightily the Slashdot has fallen...
The Police? (Score:2)
Forget Reddit. Come to slashdot. (Score:2)
Slashdot is not perfect, it has its share of trolls and gadflys. But its crowd sourced moderation system works decently and it can be improved too.
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Last I checked, the conservative crowd was kicked off Reddit (they even went out and built their own, with blackjack and hookers [thedonald.win]), so I doubt it's them.
Also, without examples of this alleged racism, it's hard to say if it's actual Kluxer-speak, or if it's just stuff that gets said which hurt some poor flower's feelings. If the former, there's also no indication if it's just the usual bullshit trolling that every website forum on the planet has to put up with (we see it here with the GNAA bullshit), or...?
Re:Yup (Score:5, Informative)
That idea that they left for a new site is just wishful thinking. The moderators of "the_donald" subreddit pretty much threw their hands up and purposefully tanked it to try and move people to that new site to really lay on the grift pretty hard. All movements to move folks to a non-redit site have failed (remember voat?) the users just scattered to a new set of sub-reddits.
Conservatives are hardly without places to discuss, they still have r/conservative r/asktrumpsupporters r/conspiracy r/soyboys etc etc.
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T_D's mods "threw their hands up" after the sub was:
1. quarantined
2. Locked down so that only one single user (Tom Fitton) could make posts
3. half the mods were arbitrarily shit-canned
4. shit-canned mods were replaced with new mods chosen by Reddit with no community input
And after all of that, the ONLY thing the mods did in response, was put a link to thedonald.win on the sidebar.
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So... they're not monolithic, but they are monolithic? Can't have that both ways.
By the by, yeah, conservatives are a wide and varied group, just like progressives are.
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It's funny seeing someone decry racism by projecting prejudice. Most of us conservatives could care less what color someone's skin is. People are people. It's the left that's so obsessed with skin color and other superficial traits. Always placing various groups in to buckets that require special care and rules. Yes, many conservatives are against leftist policy that gives benefits to a specific group. Not because we have some sort of hatred for that "protected class", but because we believe everyone should be treated the same. We don't believe that righting a past wrong should be done by treating someone special and creating new wrongs in the name of social justice. Yet we get called racist for being against such policy.
If you'd get past the electoral political talking points, you'd see that most of us (conservatives and liberals) want the same end results, it's just that we greatly differ on the means of getting there. It's just politically adventitious to call people that disagree with with race based policies racist and all the leftest lemmings that don't want to be called racist go right along with it.
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What's ironic is that although the percentage of people affected by these societal problems differs by race, nearly all of the problems exist across all races. For example, poverty affects African Americans disproportionately, but it's still a problem for some Caucasians. And a lot of the crime in inner city neighborhoods ultimately stems from poverty. For example, people (of all races) deal drugs because you can get money quickly that way. (Of course, the ability to make money quickly that way is a side effect of a poorly thought out drug policy, and could easily be fixed, but that would still leave other crimes, such as theft, i.e. changing that is mostly fixing a symptom, rather than the root cause.)
Even the police violence issues ultimately stem from poverty. As a percentage of interactions, IIRC, African Americans are actually shot slightly less often than Caucasians, which means that the higher level of deaths per capita is likely entirely caused by them interacting with police a lot more. And although some of that increased interaction is probably caused by racism, a lot of that difference likely stems from minorities not having enough money to move out of high-crime neighborhoods. So although you can largely fix any racism by cops by ensuring that police officers have a similar racial makeup to the neighborhoods that they are policing, but if you don't fix the underlying poverty, any improvements in the numbers are likely to be short-lived.
Unfortunately, neither the left nor the right is doing anything to fix the fundamental problem of poverty, or even talking about ways to do so, with the exception of socialists like Sanders. IMO, any real fix for poverty has to start by limiting the gap between the wealthiest people and the poorest, bringing the poor up to a level where they don't feel desperate. That means providing more services to help people find jobs, providing more free job training, mandating employer-provided child care for working parents, tripling the minimum wage and permanently indexing it to inflation, and in all likelihood, providing a universal basic income paid for by taxes on any capital gains over some annual cap.
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It's funny seeing someone decry racism by projecting prejudice.
I'm not looking to pick a fight. There's a lot of decent comments here (yours is not one, and I will explain why), so I thought long and hard before posting.
First of all, what are you referring to? You're speaking as though everyone reading your comment knows and has seen what you have seen, you have your finger on the pulse of the nation, and this is some all too common occurrence.
More importantly, not sure if so but in case you are confused about these terms, they are not the same thing, even if some
Re:Yup (Score:4)
He didn't accuse you of being racist. He stated (accurately) that you were demonstrating prejudice.
Prejudice against Conservatives is not racism. I hope that helps.
If defending Conservatives (people that believe in law and order, like a small Government, decry racism and pay their taxes) makes me just as bad as they are then, well, better that than being a prejudiced idiot.
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Let me tell you this: (Score:2)
r/Drama is one of the most malevolent, cruel, coldhearted online communities you'll ever find, and even as a supporter of free speech it appalls me that Reddit would allow such a vile, festering hub of bigotry and sadism to exist. You think [slur]town was bad?
That subreddit, if you pick up on the dog-whistles (and many don't even bother with that-- say want you want about Stormfront, at least it bans "n[slur]"), will reveal itself to you as Reddit's number one hub for the web's most hardened Nazis, Klansmen
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I had to look up what kink-shaming even meant. I don't get how it's such a travesty that it goes on. The whole point of kinky is to be beyond the bounds of normality... so if people react, then what, crime of crimes? Should there be no shame at all?
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I fear that r/drama may be producing an entire army of Dylann Roofs and Elliot Rogers, and I highly suggest that nobody dares visit that horrible subreddit, lest you potentially fall victim to its corruptive aura.
Let me quote an excerpt from Mein Kampf: A Translation Controversy.
It is important to understand that reading anti-Semitic passages or passages on race will not turn anyone into an anti-Semite. You do not have to worry about being filled with hatred simply by reading Mein Kampf; it is not a magic tome. Some people have so little faith in their own beliefs that they fear any exposure to Mein Kampf might twist them into something evil. If their beliefs are so fragile, so easily twisted, then they are already evil
Re: Yup (Score:4, Insightful)
Racism such as 'all lives matter'? Ok.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/... [thedailybeast.com]
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Let me explain this to you, because you seem to be unwilling or unable to understand
Black people in AMERICA feel as if their lives don't matter, due to pervasive racism from police and others in our country.
Black Lives Matter is there to remind those people who are racist, that Black Lives Matter just as much as any other, which is something people like you seem to willingly forget.
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Don't forget BlackPeopleTwitter's "Verified Blacks Only" policy
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There are more guns in America than people. I propose we enact Gun Socialism and redistribute them among the masses.
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That doesn't sound like a good idea.
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The proposal is still a work-in-progress. The experts on gungrabbing only want to destroy the guns, so their gestapo resources will be of no help here.
More seriously, it would help if we lifted the racist "Saturday Night Special" laws and the reformed the current misogynist tainted process for conceal carry permits. Black single mothers in high crime areas can't access a gun, but a middle class white guy in the suburbs can. An avid gun hobbyist can get a concealed carry permit, but a woman that has reported
They already did (Score:5, Insightful)
Slashdot has been MUCH better, they now require a login to be able to post AC - they didn't used to require that.
Some still slip through, but it's better than it was. Maybe only can post AC if you've been a member longer than a year, then it would make it more time consuming for trolls to create burner accounts...
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How about "As long as karma is Excellent" instead?
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They still allow you to post, though, and you're just as tribal as any racist.
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You can always filter out comments based on mod points on slashdot. Reddit has a similar feature based on up/downvotes, and in fact most of the downvoted comments on reddit are effectively hidden, since you can only browse 100 comments at a time and the downvoted ones are at the end of the list, which would take forever in a post with thousands of comments
Re:It's bad on slashdot as well! (Score:5, Insightful)
They sort of have. You can't post anymore without being logged in. Even if you check "Post Anonymously", the readership may not be able to see who you are, but I'd venture a guess that the administrators can. And it might be the case that negative mod points can still accumulate against your UID.
The anonymous coward feature is handy for dodging the cancel culture. Where when one has demonstrated a political stance not in alignment with self appointed SJW patrols, even innocuous posts get hunted down and downmodded.
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Nothing threatens tolerant, open-minded Liberals more than people having unauthorized opinions.
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I probably agree, however some people feel that this is a means to sweep racism under the cover and avoid confronting it. My opinion is mostly that you can't fix it, just continue to marginalize racists that out themselves and ignore the ones that are keeping it in their family, but stop highlighting it.
Newspapers could do better by not mentioning the race of the person involved in any crimes they're reporting on as well, it's rarely relevant and just adds to the problem.
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Your values may be clear, but if you don't actually do something about it, then that's pretty much the definition of white privilege.
This is not "the definition of white privilege".
This is the definition of "hypocrisy".
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That's not white privilege. White privilege is having access to benefits that others don't based solely on the whiteness of your skin (or presumed whiteness).
Not taking action on your principles is... nothing. It's more often than not the result of a calculated risk assessment. People of all backgrounds make those calculations regularly. That doesn't make them white or privileged.
Additionally, sometimes principles are in conflict with each other. For example, if Reddit wants to be an exemplar of open discou
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In general it seems to mean anything that opposes the left point of view now. Just this week I saw a video of a black man carrying an american flag is being called a racist and run out of the area. How batsh_t crazy is that?
But that's different...
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Nobody is saying that all lives don't matter. But when a particular aggrieved group tells you that they have been harmed, and you scream back "BUT WHAT ABOUT ME!?!", it's not exactly a good look.
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He's clearly being disingenuous by muddying the waters as if BLM protesters really mean "only" black lives matter. Seth Rogen's approach is far more appropriate at this stage - these people are just trolling now.
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I hear you and see you. Still using Windows 7 since it was the last Windows that allowed you to use it outside the SAAS model.
In the past few weeks have noticed Google specifically deprecating Google Drive SAAS app functionality across all browsers running in Win7 environments.
I guess Google also wants to force everyone onto Win 10 for all the baked-in DRM garbage.
I won't be making the upgrade. This is the end of my relationship with Microsoft that started in MSDOS 2.0.
They just don't really make operating