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Honda Says Will Be First To Mass Produce Level 3 Autonomous Cars (reuters.com) 106

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Japan's Honda Motor said on Wednesday it will be the world's first automaker to mass produce sensor-packed level 3 autonomous cars that will allow drivers to let their vehicles navigate congested expressway traffic. From a report: "Honda is planning to launch sales of a Honda Legend (luxury sedan) equipped with the newly approved automated driving equipment" before the end of March 2021, Honda said in a press release. The race to build self-driving cars is a key technology battleground for automakers, with technology companies such as Google parent Alphabet Inc also investing billions of dollars in a field expected to boost car sales. Japan's government earlier in the day awarded a safety certification to Honda's autonomous "Traffic Jam Pilot" driving technology, which legally allow drivers to take their eyes off the road. "Self driving cars are expected to play a big role in helping reduce traffic accidents, provide transportation for the elderly and improve logistics," said Japan's Ministry of Land, Infrastructure, Transport and Tourism. There are six levels of vehicle autonomy, from 0 to 5, ranging from manual cars or those with simple functions such as cruise control to fully self-driving vehicles that would not need steering wheels, or brake and acceleration pedals.
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  • Great news (Score:4)

    by AmiMoJo ( 196126 ) on Wednesday November 11, 2020 @10:23AM (#60711308) Homepage Journal

    This is great news. So far several have tried for level 3 autonomy, where under certain circumstances the driver does not need to pay attention to the road, but all have failed. Audi was supposed to launch it a couple of years ago but failed to get it past regulators who rightly saw that it was not very safe.

    In Japan you can already get hands-free level 2 cars from Nissan and Lexus. Reading the Japanese press it seems that this feature will be limited to highways where they have scanned everything in high resolution so the car can locate itself to within centimetres.

    In Japan GPS maps are not always reliable, not least because sometimes the ground moves a metre or two at random intervals. So they use GPS for a rough location and then radar and lidar to get down to centimetre level, plus cameras to observe nearby traffic and road markings. But being level 3 the car must give the driver plenty of warning to put down their newspaper and get ready to take over if there is a problem.

    • I haven't lived in a US city for decades now, but during the decades when I had jobs where I was commuting (Miami, Ft. Lauderdale, New York, LA, Boston, Washington DC), the average following distance was generally "If there wasn't airflow, I could spit on your car."

      Presuming this hasn't changed (yeah, not a lot of faith in better human nature, sorry), I wonder what a properly working auto-drive system will do with following distances? How does it solve for driver idiocy that involves constant, intentional c

      • Re: (Score:2)

        by AmiMoJo ( 196126 )

        MobileEye released a video a couple of years ago where they talked about how they made the car slightly aggressive on the highway for things like lane changes and following distance, because of the issues you talked about. They found that if it wasn't aggressive enough it ended up constantly slowing down and backing off.

        I think Waymo mentioned something similar, their current vehicle is quite conservative and tends to err on the side of caution, but under certain circumstances it does things like edging for

        • If it has proper AI it should determine the 'best' way to edge out for a successful result.

          • Re: (Score:2)

            by AmiMoJo ( 196126 )

            Waymo makes decision like that using an algorithm, it's not AI.

            • That's concerning. That means what AI it is using isn't really doing very complex things compared to a human.

              • Re: (Score:2)

                by AmiMoJo ( 196126 )

                For Waymo it's proven reliable, much better than a human.

                Tesla is really struggling with their AI and use algos for a lot of driving decisions.

                • Yet I've heard other people say they have witnessed Waymo cars being very jerky with the brakes going through left hand turn intersections.

                  • Re: (Score:2)

                    by AmiMoJo ( 196126 )

                    Tesla fans? They seem to think everything else is terrible.

                    Have a look at some YouTube videos. It's conservative but not jerky.

                    • The point is that this is why they only have 20% of driving down. If the AI cant be introduced to 'ice' and figure it out then everything they are doing now is just a party trick. Maybe we will have self driving in perfect weather conditions but any change to the environment should be handled by AI but they will be back to square one again and have to program it.

      • This is anecdotal, of course: recently I was using autopilot to follow my brother who was driving an F150 towing a travel trailer. I reduced the follow distance to two car lengths in order to prevent people to try to squeeze between us - I knew my vehicle could stop faster, and I was hovering my foot over the brake to be ready just in case.

        Any time I saw his brake lights come on, the car was already slowing down before I could apply pressure to the brake pedal. The Autopilot computer's reaction times are

        • Oh, and I also got far better Wh/mi on that trip due to drafting off that trailer.

          Forget about drafting:
          simply by constantly using the distance keeping even in city and letting the care decide to accelerate or brake, I am constantly getting lower fuel consumption on all cars I've been driving.

          (Also fun to watch: picking a shared EV, and watching the "remaining km" prediction go *up* as I drive).

      • For what it's worth, Californians (and the west coast) generally don't follow quite so close at high way speeds as the east coast. I used to commute in Michigan and people will tailgate at 70 mph in the middle of night on an icy road, then blast past you angerly when the passing lane opens up (three lane highway, one in each direction, and one middle lane that switches direction every mile).

        Some people want to get someplace so bad they're ready to die for it. During commute hours that's real job dedication

        • >For what it's worth, Californians (and the west coast) generally don't follow quite so close at high way speeds as the east coast.

          Try Spain. That's a fun driving environment and you need to keep up and drive to local norms. Italy is pretty relaxed outside the cities.

          US drivers (well the subset of them that make it crappy for everyone else) are just mean and aggressive, Korea too. It's quite different when people are driving in an active, opportunist, zippy way but not actually out to get in a fight. You

      • In this respect a level 3 car isn't any different from one with just an adaptive cruise control, and there are enough of those on the roads that we should know already if it's a problem. I can tell you that where I live (not US), with VW's adaptive CC, it's not a problem if you set it to the shortest of the four following distance settings.

    • If it needs high resolution scans they failed. Itâ(TM)s idiotic to assume there wonâ(TM)t be changes due to anything by from weather conditions to damage and stuff growing.

      • Re: (Score:2)

        by AmiMoJo ( 196126 )

        Highways tend not to move much. Same with buildings, it's rare for them to uproot themselves and relocate.

        Stuff like damage can be coped with. The system is always having to deal with occlusion from other vehicles, debris on the road and the like. It must also be able to read traffic signs like variable speed limits or lanes closing, or roadworks ahead.

        Of course if planned changes to a highway are being made they will have to issue a software update.

        • But why invest in a solution that can't be used everywhere? My navigation system shows a right turn only where there has been a cloverleaf for years. Who is paying for these scans and how long do they take?

          • Re: (Score:3)

            by AmiMoJo ( 196126 )

            Because a solution that can be used everywhere is orders of magnitude more complex and still many years away from reaching the market.

            The same companies that offer satellite and aerial photography also do scans of cities and roads. Basically a car drives down them with laser scanners mounted on it. As well as this sort of thing they use high resolution scans to check tunnels for cracks and road surfaces for defects.

            All the companies that buy the data pay for it. I imagine car companies will want to charge a

            • It's kind of expensive and quite a bit of hard work to put in new roads, or rearrange a junction. You would think the governments responsible could afford a day of a GIS person's time to enter the new data into a big database for everyone to see.

              • They do but they don't have the money to give real time updates as anything in an entire city changes.

                • Real time? It takes weeks to make a physical change to the road system. Making the GIS change takes less than 1 day.

                  • And getting the right people to come out with their expensive equipment a month. I actually know someone who worked in a city GIS department and they were years behind. Things don't work the same way in the real world as they do in your head. Besides, what do you do where there is no mobile internet?

                    • >Besides, what do you do where there is no mobile internet?
                      Get out the plans from the construction department. Enter it into the GIS database.

                      But indeed I haven't worked in city government. So I'm sure there are some "It's not that simple" issues that I am not aware of.
                      Just like my job trying to make chips secure. It is not that simple.

                    • People problems are way more difficult than any other problems.
                  • And don't go thinking that only happens in the country. I lived in a giant pie slice in a city that was a dark spot between towers. Pizza guys couldn't use their credit machines. Sure this can all be solved but for lots of money and self driving isn't worth that much for people who are mostly fine with the cars we have today.
            • Its going to be a long time for enough people to afford all this to make a statistical dent in driving safety. And people say they don't have to be safer than a human. They will need to be significantly better if they only ever make up 5% of the vehicles on the road.

    • Except that what Honda is advertising here, is something that Tesla's autopilot has been doing for years. Not really sure how they can claim nobody else has been doing autonomous driving in traffic jams until March of next year.

      It's literally the thing that autopilot does best, and has for years.

      • Re:Great news (Score:4, Informative)

        by AmiMoJo ( 196126 ) on Wednesday November 11, 2020 @11:54AM (#60711584) Homepage Journal

        The key difference between what Tesla offers and what Honda is offering is that in a Tesla the driver must keep their hands on the wheel and pay attention at all times, while a level 3 system allows them to release the wheel and divert their attention elsewhere.

        In the Honda the driver could read a newspaper or play with their phone safely. They do not have to monitor the system for safety, and if it needs them to take over it will warn them in plenty of time so they can put down what they are doing to familiarize themselves with the situation before they start driving again.

        • Re:Great news (Score:5, Informative)

          by thenitz ( 4779053 ) on Wednesday November 11, 2020 @12:34PM (#60711690)

          It's also about the legal responsibility for anything that happens during autonomous mode. L2 systems like the current Teslas make the driver responsible. In L3 systems like the one just announced, it's Honda who is responsible. This allows the driver not to pay attention while in a traffic jam.

          Another big difference is the handover behavior. In the original Honda press release [global.honda] there's an excerpt from the newly adopted Japanese vehicle registration law that says:

          "Before any of operable driving environment conditions become unsatisfactory, the equipment must warn the driver of the transfer of control (handover) back to the driver and must continue safe driving until the handover is completed. When the handover cannot be made, the equipment must safely stop the vehicle."

          The car basically has to guarantee that it can drive autonomously long enough for an orderly handover, no matter what. That's a big leap from the current case, where the driver should be able to take over at any moment, and it is an order of magnitude harder to implement.
           

          • I wonder how this will work with current ordinances regarding inattentive driving and cell phone use. Can you get a DUI if the car was the one in control? This raises a lot of questions that will face a long rocky road in the intermediary between this being a rare technology until it is common place.

        • Re: (Score:2, Insightful)

          by DontBeAMoran ( 4843879 )

          if it needs them to take over it will warn them in plenty of time so they can put down what they are doing to familiarize themselves with the situation before they start driving again.

          That is literally impossible to achieve.

          A lot of accidents are caused by events that are sudden and without any warning. People who are driving, paying attention to the road with both hands on the wheel don't even have time to react to avoid the accident.

          How would adding the delays of:
          - warning the driver
          - waiting for the driv

          • Re: (Score:2)

            by AmiMoJo ( 196126 )

            In the event of an accident it needs to react reasonably well. Apply brakes if needed, come to a stop. If it's the other driver's fault that's all it needs.

            Obviously it shouldn't be causing accidents itself.

            • You are the first other person i have seen that finds it obvious.

            • Only a certain percentage of potential accidents can be avoided by breaking. The car should be able to calculate if it has time to do that, however you could still get rear-ended by the other car behind you. If the car doesn't have time to break to avoid the accident, what is it supposed to do?

              Not all roads are flat with huge safety lanes on the side. For example, there are roads that follow a narrow path between mountains and rivers. There is literally ~2.5 lanes total, you can't safely stop anywhere witho

              • Re: (Score:2)

                by AmiMoJo ( 196126 )

                Braking will usually lessen the severity of the accident, even if it can't be avoided. In that situation there isn't all that much the car reasonably can do.

                Swerving is an option but risky. The car may find it doesn't have enough traction for an extreme manoeuvre, or it may swerve into something it hadn't see. For example the vehicle in front brakes hard to avoid pedestrians, and the one behind swerves round it and straight into the people crossing the road. The car behind didn't see the people as they were

    • "In Japan GPS maps are not always reliable, "

      Since they don't have zip-codes, house-numbers or street names either, what IS reliable then?

      • Re: (Score:2)

        by AmiMoJo ( 196126 )

        Sat navs usually accept phone numbers so they can route you directly to a business.

        Otherwise the best you can do is usually just the block or group of buildings where you want to go and then hope it's signposted.

        There are actually postal codes in Japan.

        These days Google Maps helps a lot, although sometimes it's not accurate.

  • if Tesla wasn't pushing the envelope.

    • Re:Wonder how long this would have taken... (Score:5, Informative)

      by AmiMoJo ( 196126 ) on Wednesday November 11, 2020 @10:39AM (#60711346) Homepage Journal

      Probably about the same. This is tech from MobileEye, which you may recall Tesla originally used before going their own way.

      There are basically two groups now. You have MobileEye and Tesla which are working on driver aids like this, hoping to build up to level 5. Then you have the much larger group that is aiming for level 4 or 5 only, which is lead by Waymo but includes many, many others.

      Driver aids have the advantage that you can buy them today, but the disadvantage that the driver must be paying attention and it has proven difficult to enforce that. Level 4/5 is harder but potentially much more rewarding as no driver is needed at all.

      Current state of play for demonstrated capability is:

      Waymo - Level 4
      Honda - Level 3
      Everyone else - Level 2

      But the gap between level 3 and level 4 is huge so in reality Waymo are way, way, way out in front.

      • Everyone Else already has cars on the Road, and available for customers

        The others are still in testing, and still way off until it will get into the normal persons hand.

        Also Tesla current beta release of auto-pilot software seems to very close if not level 3, in terms of what it can do. This beta is on some normal customers cars already.

        • Re: (Score:3)

          by AmiMoJo ( 196126 )

          Honda has level 2 on the road already too, their current models come with it. Again, MobileEye provided the system.

          Tesla is a long long way from level 3. Their current system requires constant, careful attention because it's liable to do something dangerous at any moment. Level 3 means you can absolutely rely on it to warn you well in advance of the need to take over.

          Part of the reason Tesla is so far away is that they are not limiting where their system can be used. The Honda system is only for use on high

          • Not necessarily, if they get certified at Level 3 for, say, congested highway traffic under 70km/h, they could inform the driver that Level 3 conditions have been met, and they are free to let go of steering and do whatever. Then warn them to take over or start paying attention when conditions change again.

            I do wonder how well drivers will handle the transitions between autonomous driving, driving under supervision, or no autopilot at all... so far it doesn't seem to be much of a problem.

            • Re: (Score:2)

              by AmiMoJo ( 196126 )

              Audi tried that. There is a video on YouTube somewhere, at one point the safety driver grabs the wheel and he never takes his eyes off the road.

              There were some major limitations, like it needed a wall or barrier on one side to work (so you can't use the middle lane) and a car to follow. I think it was up to about 50 kph as well.

              It didn't get regulatory approval from the German government.

            • When Musk accepts responsibility for all accidents, then he is level 3. Without that there is no point even discussing it.

              • Why do you think Tesla is trying to get their own Insurance policy out to beyond California.

                Many Insurance Companies don't factor in Tesla Safety record, into the price of the insurance. So people are paying higher premiums because damage may be more expensive to repair, but much less probable it will happen. And with Cameras onboard it makes insurance fraud harder.

          • Tesla could, and probably will at some point, fence their cars to provide L3 functionality in only well documented areas but their current L2 everywhere else. I think they could do that today but they believe there is some advantage in being able to claim their systems works everywhere and many others only work on mapped highways.
            • They could also take responsibility then, instead of continuing to scapegoat the passenger.
              • If they move to L3 they would have to do that, which is one of the advantages of staying at L2.

                I don't believe they are staying there for purely technical reasons.

              • Level - 3 still requires a driver ready to take over. You are thinking of Level 4 and 5
                Level - 3 is the car can go point to point avoid obstacles and adjust for weather conditions.

                The Beta of self driving can do this today. However I expect Tesla doesn't want to claim Level 3 just yet, just because it is indeed in Beta, and there is still some perfections going across. I would call it Level 2.8 right now.

                • The current fleet driving with the beta isn't ramming easily avoidable static vehicles every couple of months ... will it maintain that record with wider deployment? Maybe, but I doubt it.

            • One could always sell an L2 system that works anywhere (like Tesla's Navigate on Autopilot, Autosteer on city streets) and make it L3 in limited situations (Traffic Jam Pilot) or on mapped highways

              Audi had this in their A8. The Traffic Jam Pilot had a special button, nicely decorated with an "AI" icon, that the driver had to press in order to get into L3 mode. Otherwise the driver would use normal L2 (Traffic Assist), L1 (Adaptive Cruise Control only, with Lane Keep disabled), or no automation at all.

              Sadly

            • Going for limited level 3 would be a PR disaster, it would be basically admitting Full Self Driving is far off.

              I think Tesla will just fake it more, pretend it's just regulations which is keeping them from claiming a level greater than 2 and rely on the reality distortion bubble to protect them from fallout from Teslas crashing into stationary vehicles.

    • That's what surprises me so much about this, I don't even think about Honda when I think about self-driving cars. It seems like they're coming out of nowhere.
      • Having driven in Japan, I am surprised they are even trying it. I don't know how people can do that all the time. Out on the highway, sure. In a town or city? Likely to run over a bicycle or scooter is just too high.

        • Re:Wonder how long this would have taken... (Score:4, Informative)

          by JaredOfEuropa ( 526365 ) on Wednesday November 11, 2020 @11:04AM (#60711438) Journal
          This is for congested highway traffic only, at the moment. And it's a desirable feature. My car keeps its lane on the highway and adjusts its speed to the person in front, coming to a complete stop if necessary, and it's already a great feature to have in stop & go traffic, even if you still have to hold the wheel and keep an eye out. Level 3 does away with the need for a babysitter; the car will drive itself well enough for you to (legally!) read a book or mess with your phone, with the car warning you in time to take over when needed.

      • Honda always seemed to be the Lag-Leader in their products. They let the others make the big innovations, then they take the lessons learned and build a solid product from it.

        People don't get Honda's because it is packed full of the latest and greatest features. They get a Honda, because it is a reliable car, with refined set of the current features.

        I have a 2012 Toytota Prius, and a 2012 Honda CRV. The Prius is full of the best tech that 2012 could offer. Touch Screen, GPS, full interaction with my Pho

        • Re: (Score:2)

          by AmiMoJo ( 196126 )

          Have you seen the Honda e? It looks like one of those prototypes you see at motor shows which never reaches production, except you can buy it now.

          Until recently they were making F1 engines as well, which is pure R&D investment.

          I suppose most of their range has always been a little bit conservative, although the Civic is good fun.

          • Honda really was an exciting brand until about 25 years ago. They used to dominate F1, innovate and win in many disciplines of motorcycling, then of course the NSX. (Although the new NSX is a bright spot too).

            I would compare them to Sony.

  • There are six levels of vehicle autonomy, from 0 to 5, ranging from manual cars or those with simple functions such as cruise control to fully self-driving vehicles that would not need steering wheels, or brake and acceleration pedals.

    If level 0 means vehicles with cruise control, then we need a level -1 which means vehicles without it. Or perhaps there are actually only five levels of autonomy, from 1 to 5, where autonomy is defined as the vehicle actually driving itself and not just keeping the speed where you set it.

    • Re: (Score:2)

      by AvitarX ( 172628 )
      Autonomy is the car making changes without intervention.

      I'm not sure why they defined maintaining speed as not making a change, but clearly they did and it's not entirely wrong.

      • Cruise control definitely makes changes, because different amounts of "throttle" (etc.) are required to maintain speed. But you really can't call a vehicle autonomous until it can steer, and not just for purposes of anti-skid (i.e. ESP)

      • Re: (Score:2)

        by Jamu ( 852752 )
        I guess they defined not maintaining speed as not making a change too, for ABS.

    • Re: (Score:2)

      by thsths ( 31372 )

      Cruise control in itself is not really an autonomy feature, just a driver aid. Adaptive Cruise Control is Level 1.

      https://www.sae.org/news/press... [sae.org]

  • I remember reading about a car that could do level three under certain conditions. Specifically it was traffic jam on a divided highway.

    May have been this one (article is 2017) https://www.carmagazine.co.uk/car-news/tech/audi-a3-level-3-autonomy-how-did-they-get-it-to-market/

    I'm not saying there's isn't better, but a car has had level three already.
  • considering the facet of this being an improvement for seniors or the elderly, I'm a just turned senior and I've already realized that for mobility and my health (social distancing, etc) having my own car seems superior to mass transit but I'm faced with a future where my city, and all cities it seems, are determined to excise the automobile from their landscape. We're facing the imposition of mobility pricing, a toll to enter the core of the city, which just happens to contain our two main hospitals, majo
    • GTF far away from cities. That'll do more for your health than any hospital will, long-term. If there's a real emergency, that's what EMS is for.
    • Relax.
      Covid will be over by summer.
      However, mass transportation will be seriously impacted for the next 5 years. Far fewer will want to be on a train /plane where you are sitting with 30-300 ppl breathing same air, touching the same uncleaned seats/toilets that others used.

      As such, we are likely to see EVs replace regular city cars,
      loop as being put forth by boring company being urban mass transit ( vehicle of 6-30 and P2P rides, as opposed to multiple stops
      Hyperloop, with 30 ppl and P2P replace the 10
      • Covid is one consideration but there are other things in the wind, as it were. Flus are still killers although there are hopes for a more general flu vaccine in the future. Perhaps I'm just using these as an excuse to hang onto my old individual lifestyle and not get crammed into the mass transit, mass storage, tiny home lifestyle that everyone, supposedly, wants to adopt. EVs introduce a whole other detail. Moving the mobility fee from the core of the city to the whole region as the taxes that used to

  • My wife has a very recent Honda, (Score:3)

    by jenningsthecat ( 1525947 ) on Wednesday November 11, 2020 @10:47AM (#60711380)

    and if the quality and reliability of its hardware, software, and UI design are any indication of how good their autonomous vehicle technology will be, then I wouldn't let it navigate a toy RC car around my driveway.

    • Re: (Score:2)

      by AmiMoJo ( 196126 )

      I wonder if Hondas are different in the US.

      In Europe they are extremely well made and known for their reliability. We mostly get Japanese models, some of which used to be built in the UK but the factory is closing (another brexit victim) so they will all be made in Japan from now on.

      Hondas are not cheap cars here, they are mid-range or performance.

      From what I read I get the impression that the models sold in the US are different.

      • You may be right - our markets are similar enough that here in Canada we probably get pretty much the same cars that are sold in the States. And Hondas ARE known here for quality and reliability, and they aren't low-end by any means. My wife's CRV seems well-built and solid. It's the design issues that piss me off - see my response to SlashbotAgent.

    • Re: (Score:1, Troll)

      by SlashbotAgent ( 6477336 )

      Bruh, This article is about the Honda Legend(Acura RL), not your wife's busted-ass base Civic.

      And if you think her busted-ass base Civic is poor quality, don;t look at a Carola.

      Honda fit finish and quality are among the very best standard/non-luxury vehicles out there.

      • Re: (Score:2)

        by oic0 ( 1864384 )
        People still remember them for what they were, when the exchange rate gave them an advantage and they could be built with amazing quality at competitive prices. Things have changed and they have to penny pinch now which has put them on a much more level playing field with domestics.
      • It's a CRV, not a Civic. And yes, fit and finish are good. But when I turn the radio on I can't turn the volume down until it 'boots'. The backup display can't be turned off - VERY bad on a dark road at night with stock tinted windows when the screen is so bright it makes seeing things outside the range of the backup camera difficult or impossible. By default the headlights automagically go to high beam under some light conditions - almost caused an accident when they went bright on a tight-curve off-ramp w

        • Have you tried turning the odometer stalk to adjust the display brightness?

          I agree that the fit and finish of Honda vehicles is pretty good but there are some oddball design decisions like those you have mentioned. Mine also has the oddity that any ongoing Siri conversations get cancelled whenever you turn the left indicator on. I suspect this happens because it's switching the main console display over to the wing mirror-mounted camera but why should that terminate a Bluetooth-connected audio channel?

  • What are the sensors? Anyone know? I don't see any details of it -- how many cameras/radars/whatevers?

  • Let the terror and horror begin, when they fuck up and the occupants realize they're trapped and have no way to stop what's about to happen to them, like being on a rollercoaster and you see the car is about to leave the track and hurtle you to your death, knowing there is nothing you can do about it.

  • Automation is cool but they have to resolve a few issues first.
    Honda and others are doing this so they can harvest all of that yummy metadata.
    Will we be able to opt out, maybe as an option (I bet not)?
    Then there are the privacy issues, they will say the data is hashed and scrubbed and then someone will show that its not as has been the case to date.
    With all of the extra sensors and processing comes more expense.
    It will drive up the cost of buying the car and more importantly it will cost $$$ to fix it.
    A b

  • I'm adding projectors to my car that project different lines and signs on the road around my car. We'll see just how 'smart' and 'autonomous' these cars really are.

  • ... undertaking a crash program to secure the lead in this technology.

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