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Tesla Recalls Roughly 135,000 Vehicles Over Touchscreen Failures (cnn.com) 36

After being asked by the NHTSA, Tesla is recalling 135,000 Model S and Model X vehicles because their large center touchscreens can fail. "The recall applies to some 2012 through 2018 Model S and 2016 through 2018 Model X vehicles," notes CNN. From the report: Under the recall, which will begin on March 30, Tesla must notify owners of cars with the failure-prone touchscreens and replace a computer chip that controls the screen. The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) considers this a safety issue because without a functioning center screen, drivers lose the display for the car's backup camera and controls for the window defroster and defogger. Even in its correspondence with NHTSA agreeing to the recall, Tesla noted that it was aware of no crashes related to the problem and said the vehicles could still be safely operated without the screen.

Thus far, Tesla has been charging customers to upgrade or replace the screens, but the costs of official recall repairs are supposed to be absorbed by the vehicle manufacturer. Tesla said in its letter to NHTSA that it will make the recall repairs for free and will offer a discount on upgraded screen hardware. Tesla is also required to regularly report to NHTSA on its progress in repairing all 135,000 touchscreens. Automakers face fines for not repairing recalled vehicles quickly enough.

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Tesla Recalls Roughly 135,000 Vehicles Over Touchscreen Failures

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  • by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 02, 2021 @10:13PM (#61021566)

    he would give us knobs.

    • I'll take one of his cars; you can have his knob.
  • costs of official recall repairs are supposed? but not forced by law??

    Just wait for the apple car
    Recall repair with apple care $299 without $999

    • by bill_mcgonigle ( 4333 ) * on Tuesday February 02, 2021 @11:17PM (#61021706) Homepage Journal

      > Just wait for the apple car
      > Recall repair with apple care $299 without $999

      Here you go, buddy, you dropped these: 0 0

      • by AmiMoJo ( 196126 )

        People forget the early days of Tesla cars, when repairs to the Model S and Model X for bodywork damage amounted to tens of thousands of dollars.

        There were several issues compounding the problem. Parts availability was poor, few places could work on Teslas even for bodywork, parts were expensive and customers expected the repairs to be better than factory due to the factory not being able to properly align panels or fit trim.

        That all caused massive delays too, which meant large rental fees for people who ex

        • ...Practically new cars were being written off as beyond economical repair.

          Underneath that fancy painted shell is still a viable car. A nice electric car.

          If I smashed up a Tesla and my insurance company did that, I'd rip all the body panels off, forget about lane sensor shit, and convert it to an off-road buggy or something. Would make a hell of a fun golf cart.

          • by AmiMoJo ( 196126 )

            People do repair write-offs, problem is Tesla cripples them remotely. Disables all the optional features, and most importantly disables all rapid charging. Not just on Tesla chargers, on all chargers.

            • People do repair write-offs, problem is Tesla cripples them remotely. Disables all the optional features, and most importantly disables all rapid charging. Not just on Tesla chargers, on all chargers.

              Quite frankly, unless Tesla is taking ownership and responsibility for completely recycling the car they just bricked, this kind of shit should probably be illegal for environmental reasons alone.

  • by Anonymous Coward

    The recall is because Tesla used unfit flash memory components that fail too quickly and then cause safety issues because the rear view cameras and other safety-related devices can no longer function. Somehow they think that their customers should be paying for the replacement hardware to fix all of the problems? And "oh, it's ok, we charge them a discounted rate" is acceptable?

    Geez, Louise, I hope the government sues the crap out of them for this kind of behavior. This should not be a precedent for all aut

    • I'd like to point out to all Tesla owners: if your vehicle is affected by this problem then it's no longer roadworthy and you're not allowed to be driving it on public roads. Doesn't matter whether it causes an accident or not, there are minimum functional requirements for a roadworthy certification.

      Yes, and in most states, it's pass a smog test; a standard Tesla will have no problem meeting.

    • I'd like to point out to all Tesla owners: if your vehicle is affected by this problem then it's no longer roadworthy and you're not allowed to be driving it on public roads. Doesn't matter whether it causes an accident or not, there are minimum functional requirements for a roadworthy certification.

      Yes, but they don't include "rear facing camera works" in the USA.

  • Tesla's gimmick is low maintenance, so they can sell 1 million vehicles without needing a large servicing network. But what happens when 1000 owners all send their car back to the one dealer in their state all at the same time?
    • Tesla's gimmick is low maintenance, so they can sell 1 million vehicles without needing a large servicing network. But what happens when 1000 owners all send their car back to the one dealer in their state all at the same time?

      They discover putting a deposit down and waiting a year to get your car was simply an ongoing part of the Tesla experience.

  • by cypher2048 ( 4036957 ) on Tuesday February 02, 2021 @11:42PM (#61021778)
    This recall had to due with the flash memory that logs are written to, not "a computer chip that controls the screen". It's maybe close to true at a very reductive level. How did this get approved to be posted to /. There are way better articles about this out there. Ex: https://arstechnica.com/cars/2... [arstechnica.com]
    • by tlhIngan ( 30335 ) <[ten.frow] [ta] [todhsals]> on Wednesday February 03, 2021 @07:12AM (#61022510)

      This recall had to due with the flash memory that logs are written to, not "a computer chip that controls the screen". It's maybe close to true at a very reductive level. How did this get approved to be posted to /. There are way better articles about this out there

      It's close enough. The flash memory chip belongs to the computer that drives the touchscren. It contains the software that the computer runs, and thus is a computer chip that controls the screen.

      When the flash wears out, it generally destroys the other data on the same chip (wear leveling behavior, as well as general frailties of NAND memory). When we were designing equipment, if we stored media data, it would go on a separate chip for that reason - so we wouldn't wear out the main chip which would render the entire unit useless.

      And the real problem is that several safety elements are tied to that touch screen - the front and rear defoggers, for example. If the windshield or rear window fogs up, that's a safety problem if you can't see where you're going. That's why the NHTSA was forcing a recall - screen failure was impacting safety functions.

      One could also argue failure of the screen means you lose the speedometer as well, but that's less of a safety issue - you don't need to know your exact speed - other than speeding tickets.

    • by AmiMoJo ( 196126 )

      It's just a shame that Tesla had to be forced to do this, kicking and screaming. There are lots of less serious faults that they won't address either, like the screen yellowing.

  • Touchscreens, I mean.
    In general.
    All of them.

  • You can barely drive them off the lot without the bumper or roof falling off or the pretend autopilot mistaking a road stripe for a stop light and they're concerned that their drivers won't be able to use the screen that shouldn't have replaced mirrors in the first place?

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